BOWWLING TOURNAMENT GAME THREAD

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Though @Aprilthearab if you are village, I am not surprised that I'm not pinging you the same way that I was in Casino, since I only have the energy for a game like that once a fiscal year
You're just trying to show off that you know how to use "fiscal" too :laugh:
Not particularly, it's largely a weird vibes thing. Alley is also my lane partner so I have more opportunities to explore her further
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literally promised @kaydubs I'd tag her in tallies and then in the same minute, forgot to do so.

sievememory!shorty
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Are we sure we want someone who calls herself Sievememory!shorty to be doing our tallies?
Are you about to come at me with iT wAs a ReAcTioN tEsT?

And if so, what did you learn?
I had to do a double take because I'm not used to you aiming this at anyone but me :laugh:
 
i’m unsure what to make of Sporty and samacs interactions 🤔
To be honest I expected someone to be voting me when I got back because of my schedule. I was tasty misyeet bait as someone whos always active who’s missing for like 12 hours.
but then that’s not the reason she gave. I’m not sure how I feel about that.
 
Confused- is dark mode only on the app? And not sure if you know but there was a lot more to the post than you quoted. Also is there some setting I should turn on to make it easier for everyone to read?
Also HEY YOU'RE RIGHT, I was the only one included in that!! Come on Zenge, are you salty that I yeeted you?! I'll explain when it's not balls o' clock at night

Edit: it's because of how I pronounce your username, isn't it
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Cool, thats what I was hoping you'd say.



I'm trying so hard not to read this as a noob!wolf who tried to distance themselves from a packmate early and now is backpedaling when the wagon was getting hot.

@Animal Midwife @genny @Zenge142 @Lawpy thoughts?
I’ve been slowly coming around on Fluff. I liked their play in the later part of yesterday’s cycle, but it did come after pressure started building so that’s something to take into consideration I guess.
Neutral on VV. Need to see more. 12 posts so far isn’t a lot to analyze with.

As for this, I could see that interpretation, but it’s a smoking gun I’d yeet anyone over.
 
It goes something like

Hmm, Dubz isn't really pinging me this game
okay, but Dubz pinged me hardcore when she was villaging
so should I be pinged by Dubz's no pings??
I mean, there ARE things that I could explain from a wolf perspective
but that feels like I'm forcing a read I don't believe in
but my reads are **** so I probably shouldn't believe them anyway
okay, I'm just leaving Dubz alone for now
The hedging here would ping me for most players, but for April I feel that representing her thought process more freely/stream-of-consciousness like this is in line with village April
 
Vis
stoat
April

puppy
kal
Zenge

Ivy
violet
zuri
Octo
Sporty
meats

Oxy
fluff
alley

shelter
samac
Lawpy
True

genny
AM
Mel


Edit: quoted from my role PM, forgot to move the quote tags. Fixed now.

My reasonings here are mostly vague feelings and/or snap impressions, but I can try to answer questions about specific placements.

For those unfamiliar with my general process, everyone starts neutral, village points move you towards the green end, wolf points move you towards the red end. So those in neutral may have no points either way, or equal points in both directions. I don't have any super strong wolf or village reads atm, though I am attempting a reread (on page 6 right now).

I kind of feel weird about it because of my history with reading her so might change, but for now

Yeet Vis
Were there specific reasons why stoat and puppy are so low?
 
It's actually interesting to me that it pings you so hard for me to be blunt, considering you've seen me openly be sarcastic about being a wolf before. Could you elaborate on this? I think that an "I'm going to ask you this safe question, in the context of assuming we're village and pursuing mutual goals" approach may be hamfisted, but also pretty in-character for me. As long as I got the answer I wanted around your voting choices, it didn't matter to me one way or another if you're a villager or a wolf, and I got information and moved on.
If it doesn’t matter one way or another for the content of your PM so far, why say you’re assuming you’re both villagers?
 
I'm not sure what the benefit to having this kind of attitude is, but it sure doesn't make you feel village-y to me.
I will say, as much as Mel's pushing can sometimes get on my nerves too, it's NAI for him and he certainly does it as a villager just as much as a wolf
 
Since we haven’t had any actual flips yet these are mostly just leans and feels for where I’m at on everyone.

Village:
Animal Midwife - Feels like village!wife. Her pushes and responses make sense from what I would expect from village!wife.

WildZoo - Not really seeing Wolf Dubz here. It feels like wolf!Dubz likes to drive the thread a little more than this.

alleycat03 - I want to village read her from her early D1 activity. Felt like genuine village game solving. Would have liked to have seen more from her later on in the cycle though. It felt like she sort of disappeared.

samac - Feels like village samac to me. Not as active as we’ve seen before but you can’t expect every game to have the same level of activity, with varying irl obligations. But her posts felt like her chaotic village energy.

Truenamer - Seems like a village nooblet. Idk what to say, just has that game 1 village noob energy. I’d be shook if there’s a wolf here.

potentialsheltervet - Overall I’m agreeing with their posts and I can follow their logic and thought process. Feels like it’s coming from a village mindset.

Neutral:
Lawpy - Top of my neutrals. I’ve legitimately never seen wolf!Lawpy so I’m not sure what to look for this early on, but feels genuine and village.

Aprilthearab - April is pinging me enough to make me think this is probably village April. There hasn’t been anything so far that makes me go “holy cow this is so wolfy. This has to be village April” so I’m leaving her in neutrals for the moment, but tentative village side of neutrals.

Melchizedek - I didn’t like the April vote without reasoning (at the time of the vote) and then dip but the response he gave me when asked about it was what I’d expect village Mel to say. Mel always seems wolfy to me but I’ll leave him as neutral.

SportPonies - I often find sporty to be very wolfy regardless of affiliation, and maybe I’m getting used to that and learning to read it better. Still not sure overall. Neutral.

Viscernable - I can see the arguments against Vissy. I’ve also seen those arguments made against village!Vissy so I’m hesitant to wolf read her. Neutral for now. Hoping to get a better idea from this cycle.

justafluff - Still not sure overall but I’ve come out of my tunnel and I’m willing to admit I could have been wrong. I liked a lot of Fluffy’s posts later in the cycle and found them to be agreeable. Will keep an eye out going forward since what I liked came after pressure was applied.

bluestoat - Not sure. A lot of her posts are wigging me out, but I remember she was a bit of a loose cannon in her noob game too. I could see this going either way tbh.

genny - Not sure overall yet. Didn’t like her pressuring me to vote on thread when she was keenly aware of my thought process on people. Didn’t like that she convinced me off the Kal vote, but I do get the reasoning of wanting to give Kal a chance when she hasn’t played in a while. I’m a sucker for that and Genny knows it. Wolf side of neutrals.

Wolfy:
vetmedhead - Didn’t like the April vote, or reasoning for it. Didn’t like her take on Alley either, especially because Alley is usually low hanging fruit but I’ve felt really good about her play this game. Overall VMH’s posts and pushes just feel off to me. There’s not a lot of content to analyze but what there is, I’m not a big fan of.

They’ve all posted a few things that have pinged me, and they’re more wolfy than not. But with so few posts between them I need to see more and will focus on their play today. I think there’s probably at least in wolf hiding in here, probably more:
violetvett
IvyMoose
zuriburi
puppydogtor
OctopusDoctorpus
Youngkal


Won’t Vote Here:
WorthlessOxygen - Hasn’t really posted much to get a good read but I wouldn’t have the heart to vote for my own noob their first game after the noob game.
 
Wait what?
I like that violetvett yeeted me because I like to see people's reasonings when they yeet me. It helps me to see what I'm doing that seems anti village or helps me get a better read on the person. In this case, violetvett's yeet gave me a better read on them and had me leaning them into the wolfy category.

Who do "they" and "we" refer to in the last sentence?
I was just tinfoiling about stoat and fluff both being wolves together. I was saying how parts of the conversation of having PRs in relation to when you got your PM seemed off to me and almost planned (which wouldn't be a smart thing to plan so most likely not planned). They aren't on the roster together so we know they are not PM buddies so the only way they could "plan" some of their conversation would be if they were in wolf chat. But I never really thought that was likely and now that D1 is over and I've seen more of Fluff I'm not so sure Fluffy has access to wolfchat
 
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why are YK and puppy in your wolfreads?
I talked about kal's reaction to fluff and how it felt overblown/like OMGUS. I also don't think pressure votes work when you're like "hey this is a pressure vote" so sitting on someone who had posted once all day did not sit well with me.

Puppy I have less evidence for, just a feel.
 
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Goood morning! Another day, another Stoatwagon (this time with @youngkal! Hi buddy)

I'm going to try my level best to not play until evening because I need time, tea, and soothing vibes to respond point by point to everyone. Otherwise I will come off as a crochety old crank, and your twenties is too young for this
 
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So i went back and looked:
Casino - correct village read
Shots - correct village read
Criminal minds - lied about village read on thread, correct wolf read as a 3P
??WW - wrong wolfy read, ultimately figured it out. AM started fighting with me for fighting with a wolf.
MHA - correct village read. AM started fighting with me when i voted for a wolf.
Donuts - wolfed together
HP Speed - i was a wolf
England - correct village read
Bioshock - correct village read with a healthy dose of doubt post-goats
Goats - really really wrong read. i don’t want to talk about it.
Well this is interesting
 
No that was both vaguely flattering and vaguely "oh come ON I'm not that smart!" I wish I was that smart
Oh I do think you’re capable of crafting sincere-sounding posts. That part isn’t changed

I just think my logic there hinged on you knowing you weren’t gonna die as a wolf or something. I need to go back and reread to see whether the theory fits in any other circumstance, but I just got rolling for the day so my dog needs his daily training sesh first
 
The hedging here would ping me for most players, but for April I feel that representing her thought process more freely/stream-of-consciousness like this is in line with village April
I disagree. She's a lot more hedgey as a wolf.
 
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Galactic Bowling (Night) Frame 1
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As the sun went down, the lights went up! A spectacular laser show unfolded and cheers and jeers spread all around. The night time, however, unfortunately brings out the crazies. As one wee bowler tried to lift her six pound ball off the rack, she was struck from behind with a much heavier ball, cracking her cranium. Another bowler was bragging all night about how great she was. When morning came she was found inexplicably lying lifeless in one of the gutters. I guess it doesnt pay to be a good bowler sometimes.

@WildZoo, Gutter Ball, a vanillager, who started with a lower average than most bowlers, and who was given a 1x watching ability out of pity.

@genny, a Strike, a vanillager, who started with a higher average than most bowlers.

21 players remain

Lane 1 @Lawpy
Lane 2 @youngkal
Lane 3 @alleycat03
Lane 4. @vetmedhead
Lane 5 @genny
Lane 6 @Zenge142
Lane 7 @WildZoo
Lane 8 @bluestoat
Lane 9 @Truenamer
Lane 10 @justafluff
Lane 11 @Viscernable
Lane 12 @samac
Lane 13 @Melchizedek
Lane 14 @IvyMoose
Lane 15 @SportPonies
Lane 16 @Animal Midwife
Lane 17 @Aprilthearab
Lane 18 @potentialsheltervet
Lane 19 @violetvett
Lane 20 @zuriburi
Lane 21 @puppydogtor
Lane 22 @OctopusDoctorpus
Lane 23 @WorthlessOxygen


Snacking on the Sideline

7.@WildZoo, Gutter Ball, vanillager, 1x watcher
5.@genny, Strike, vanillager


It is now Frame 2.

Voting ends SATURDAY at 10PM ET
 
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Oh I do think you’re capable of crafting sincere-sounding posts. That part isn’t changed

I just think my logic there hinged on you knowing you weren’t gonna die as a wolf or something. I need to go back and reread to see whether the theory fits in any other circumstance, but I just got rolling for the day so my dog needs his daily training sesh first
Note to self (carefully gripping pencil between two paws): if ever wolf, go out as villager to the end, just in case
 
Two kills in one night? Two wolf factions, or a wolf faction and an evil 3p?
I'm trying to figure that out too. I'm also not familiar with the possibilities of roles, but maybe there is a NA that can duplicate an action? Like how I was the redirector and could redirect Player A onto Player B, maybe there could be an action where you duplicate Player A's action onto Player B, similar to the redirector where I didn't know what the action was or who the original target was
 
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What moved April for you?

What made her interaction with Mel stick out but not her interaction with genny?

You died before I could dig up the quote. That was a dirty kill. I’m trying not to tunnel new players, but half the roster is new players and this reeks of noob!wolf getting spooked by power villaging.

Don’t think WZ was vig’d because she was on most people’s village lists I believe
 
You died before I could dig up the quote. That was a dirty kill. I’m trying not to tunnel new players, but half the roster is new players and this reeks of noob!wolf getting spooked by power villaging.

Don’t think WZ was vig’d because she was on most people’s village lists I believe
Honestly, most players are intimidated by dubz so I severely doubt it was a noob exclusive move.
 
Honestly, most players are intimidated by dubz so I severely doubt it was a noob exclusive move.
Who? I think a lot of the vets enjoy playing with dubz, and dubz always admits she usually doesn't get a wolf D1 anyway. I'd be more inclined to think a vet would make that kill if they were having trouble keeping up with thread volume. And, I'd be more willing to think it was another vet wolf if it wasn't two of the vets killed. I don't see why a vet would want genny dead so early, usually she gains a lot of sketch points and she's pretty busy and usually not on the thread a lot. I agree with Mel here.