BOWWLING TOURNAMENT GAME THREAD

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If I were a wolf I'd try pretty hard to sound like my noob game! And to amuse fellow wolves in our secret treehouse. This is bland!stoat, the most boring of all stoats
Unfortunately, it is easy to say you'd "try to sound like your noob game" but there are a lot of subconscious tics and tones that you cannot control or even recognize.
 
On the other hand, there might be another packmate that genny wasn't so agreeable with, so it doesn't necessarily mean youngkal couldn't be a wolf. But I think it's not a bad point and I'll keep in the back of my mind

Keep in mind that villagers could also have that ability and might have done that because they think samac is a wolf
It feels pretty wolfy. They called me an amateur and I ran away from them scared for my life.
 
Unfortunately, it is easy to say you'd "try to sound like your noob game" but there are a lot of subconscious tics and tones that you cannot control or even recognize.
*Squints* but I sound village in my death throes, eh? I know what I know. Edit: hah! Now you'll see why I was wolf coded by fellow villagers. No role PM to throw histrionics in.
 
Makes me wonder if it was a one-time ability or not, because if I had one bonus kill I sure as heck wouldn't have felt comfortable using it on the first night with very little information.
If I had a shot I would use it N1 or N2. I’d kick myself if I got killed and didn’t use it.
 
to be clear, I haven't read anything since day close yesterday but I will say that samac sounded a bit better later last night but I'm not sure if it's enough for me to step off. I still think she wasn't sounding her normal village earlier in the day cycle and there was at least one instance where someone unyeeted a joke vote and samac posted 1-2 posts later without any recognition that she was still on hers. Which is why I thought it was so weird when suddenly several hours later it was an "oh yeah"
I literally wasn’t around for hours yesterday. What you talking about several hours
 
I literally wasn’t around for hours yesterday. What you talking about several hours
I know you weren’t. There were several unyeets when you WERE around and posted immediately after them, THEN you disappeared.

I’m not condemning you for being busy. It’s what I saw while you were around.
 
blues reaction last night felt genuine. I think I was barking up the wrong tree.
AM, true, and zenges feel decently village.
I think vissy is village.
I don’t know how to feel about April. I want to read her village and her posts have felt village-y to me but dubz’s points give me weird not good tingled.
Mel village reading me wigs me out a bit, ngl.

I need to think about the noobs.
 
I know you weren’t. There were several unyeets when you WERE around and posted immediately after them, THEN you disappeared.

I’m not condemning you for being busy. It’s what I saw while you were around.
The day before when I was around? On a different day? When I made the joke vote?
 
@samac what makes you feel like Zenge is village?

As for noobs, I've thought it over and Fluff is leaning more village for now. Other than the jokey-weirdness on D1 they seem village, and I'd like to think they just made a village mistake.

Lawpy pings me a lot. But most of you know him and I do not. They are extremely active yet are only questioning players and hardly adding in their own thoughts. If they do add in their own thoughts they are hardly backed by anything and are mostly because of "feels." @Lawpy since you voted stoat yesterday, what are your current thoughts on them?
 
Lawpy pings me a lot. But most of you know him and I do not. They are extremely active yet are only questioning players and hardly adding in their own thoughts. If they do add in their own thoughts they are hardly backed by anything and are mostly because of "feels." @Lawpy since you voted stoat yesterday, what are your current thoughts on them?
This is not true and it’s starting to feel like you’re shading me and mirroring truey’s earlier points.

stoaty is still in my wolfreads
 
I do feel @bluestoat is being genuine / villagey, since they are behaving similar to noob game. Forward questions, straight answers... same thing in noob game which I thought was wolfy at first. So stoat is near the bottom of my list of wolves, but that doesn’t say much because I can’t place anyone else in that list
 
@samac what makes you feel like Zenge is village?

As for noobs, I've thought it over and Fluff is leaning more village for now. Other than the jokey-weirdness on D1 they seem village, and I'd like to think they just made a village mistake.

Lawpy pings me a lot. But most of you know him and I do not. They are extremely active yet are only questioning players and hardly adding in their own thoughts. If they do add in their own thoughts they are hardly backed by anything and are mostly because of "feels." @Lawpy since you voted stoat yesterday, what are your current thoughts on them?
Lawpy always pings me.
My strategy to read him is to see if I can get a village read on AM and then follow her lead.
I put a lot of effort into thinking I caught him as a wolf in bioshock and AM was like “you’re wrong” and I was.

Zenge has been asking questions like I expect, his reads list looks like a village reads list and it doesn’t hurt that we have a time stamp tell that will never work again but is consistent in this game.
 
I do feel @bluestoat is being genuine / villagey, since they are behaving similar to noob game. Forward questions, straight answers... same thing in noob game which I thought was wolfy at first. So stoat is near the bottom of my list of wolves, but that doesn’t say much because I can’t place anyone else in that list
Try questioning people to get a better feel for them.
 
This is not true and it’s starting to feel like you’re shading me and mirroring truey’s earlier points.
It certainly feels true to me. I just ISO'd you again and over 4 pages these are the only things (in my opinion) that come close to you sharing your thoughts:

Currently thinking about vissy, stoaty, fluffy and i think few others. There’s a blend of unknowns and pings that bother me. Hold pls as i try to catch up what i missed
Okay, what are you thinking about them and why?
Hmm, i guess i’m surprised since alleys’s iso didn’t come across that way when i read it so i’m curious how she’s reaching
How did it come across to you?
I mean i think YK looks neutral to me. I also didn’t play with her in years so it would suck if she gets booted out D1.
Why does YK look neutral to you?
i think violets is wolfy. There’s the weird WIFOM like behavior i saw in her posts that pinged me.
Okay, this is probably the best explanation I've seen from you.


I'm not just mirroring True's points. I did an ISO on you. 4 pages of posts and all I see is you asking questions and not giving anything solid back. Asking questions is good, but not giving anything in return (even when people have asked) makes me suspicious
 
I know you weren’t. There were several unyeets when you WERE around and posted immediately after them, THEN you disappeared.

I’m not condemning you for being busy. It’s what I saw while you were around.
Sporty, I'm not getting wolf feels from this, but your reads and mine seem to differ extravagantly in their emphasis. I'm going to be excited for time to try and get more discourse going, after we are done discussing the matter of whether or not I'm village.
 
It certainly feels true to me. I just ISO'd you again and over 4 pages these are the only things (in my opinion) that come close to you sharing your thoughts:


Okay, what are you thinking about them and why?

How did it come across to you?

Why does YK look neutral to you?

Okay, this is probably the best explanation I've seen from you.


I'm not just mirroring True's points. I did an ISO on you. 4 pages of posts and all I see is you asking questions and not giving anything solid back. Asking questions is good, but not giving anything in return (even when people have asked) makes me suspicious
Like I was telling pshelty and truey before, i ask questions to assess player interactions. The fact that this isn’t readily apparent to you doesn’t make me sketchy or pingy. When people ask me for my thoughts, i try to answer them but because people are also talking while i’m typing out responses, there’s a chance i may miss posts in my read through.

When i say i’m currently thinking about someone, it means i have them in my wolfreads and examining them further. Vissy, stoaty and fluffy posts have pinged me to various degrees, although i think i’d put fluffy more closer to wolfy side of neutrals. I think you also missed the part where i mentioned about the resistance to the vissy wagon (there’s also vissy mirroring Mels issue and few other pings). Stoaty’s end of D1 behavior and hesitancy to clarify her zenges reads bother me.

Alleys’s iso looks normal and genuine to me? I thought that was clear in that post,

YK has a mix of both wolfy and village attributes. Her pressure vote and reads were a bit problematic but her overall vibe both on thread and in PMs looked somewhat villagey to me. The mix of both is what places her in neutral.

I have responded to people when they asked me for my thoughts. But when i’m repeatedly met with assertions that i’m just asking questions or pot stirring or not giving thoughts etc etc it starts to look like a wolf attempt to shade me
 
@Lawpy thank you, that's all I needed. I understand that you ask questions to assess player interactions, but what seemed off to me was your short responses when you were asked things. It seemed as though you were willing to take information but not give it. I appreciate your response
 
@Lawpy thank you, that's all I needed. I understand that you ask questions to assess player interactions, but what seemed off to me was your short responses when you were asked things. It seemed as though you were willing to take information but not give it. I appreciate your response
I understand the temptation, if you're trying to follow a trail and don't want to let the person you suspect alter their behavior
 
Lawpy always pings me.
My strategy to read him is to see if I can get a village read on AM and then follow her lead.
I put a lot of effort into thinking I caught him as a wolf in bioshock and AM was like “you’re wrong” and I was.

Zenge has been asking questions like I expect, his reads list looks like a village reads list and it doesn’t hurt that we have a time stamp tell that will never work again but is consistent in this game.
You were 3P in bioshock and i was also tunneling you/katas pretty heavily so there’s that
 
Official Frame 2 Vote Tally

Vis (1) - LAwpy (cont.)
Meats (2) - AM, Zenge
Violet (1) - April

Ineligible - Samac

Missing: Many

Vote close Saturday 10PM ET

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@puppydogtor you mentioned Octo has more knowledge than you’d expect in your PM. How active has the PM been? Any particular knowledge?
 
Why are we focused on meats? I know april has more posts, but didn't they vote violett "for the feels" the same way as meats?
 
@puppydogtor you mentioned Octo has more knowledge than you’d expect in your PM. How active has the PM been? Any particular knowledge?
The PM was pretty active on Wednesday and since then has died down a lot - we're on the second page of our PM's. I get the feeling Octo is really overwhelmed by the amount of posts in the thread because twice now in the PM he has stated that he is trying to read/catch up. He has given me a few reads too, but most have been piggybacking off of what other people have said. As for their knowledge, they haven't asked me much about how the game works and they know how to ISO (although it is not super hard to figure out on your own). Feels like a noob who has a good understanding of the game for not having played before.
 
Did @zuriburi unyeet vis?
Sorry but I am keeping my own vote tracker and am surprised that Vis only has 1 vote now
 
These posts. I don’t know if sporty is reaching here or whether she has a valid point.

It kind of feels v/v to me
I think the point sporty made is not reaching because I can understand how it sounds weird considering it's almost like samac went "everyone's unyeeting their joke votes, guess I should too not to look sus" but I also don't find it particularly wolfy of samac
 
I don't think he has voted today. He voted vis on D1.
I found this post when I ISO'd him from 1:36 PM today:
And you up there right after them. I realize a simple wolf strategy would be to geet someone with an inaccurate list to draw suspicion to the top but the way that everyone’s responding to this situation has at least these top 2 as my top 2 wolfs.

Yeet viscernable

Oh god are we
No, cubs corrected it! It's still the 36/12 cycle so vote ends tomorrow at 10 pm
 
Yeah, it's just not included in the vote tally
 
Also @zuriburi whenever you feel better, any clues from PMing with @violetvett ?
sorry just getting caught up now, but I haven't heard from violet since an initial hello exchange we had... she asked me for my reads and i shared some impressions and asked for the same and haven't heard anything... i'm assuming she's busy?
 
Why are we focused on meats? I know april has more posts, but didn't they vote violett "for the feels" the same way as meats?
Who’s we? There’s 21 people in this game and only 2 are voting for meats.

I’m voting for meats because the April push rubbed me the wrong way and because it felt like she was trying to shade Alley in a way that felt disingenuous.
 
ITS THE EXACT SAME THING THAT HAPPENED REPEATEDLY IN YOUR NOOB GAME.

I hope they’re both village. Tbh Blue felt genuine to me in her reaction.
How about kal’s reaction?
 
I found this post when I ISO'd him from 1:36 PM today:



No, cubs corrected it! It's still the 36/12 cycle so vote ends tomorrow at 10 pm
yeah my vote is still for vis on the simple logic that WildZoo had implicated them with a whole methodology and then got ate. i think it's easy to get wrapped up on reads on reads on reads, but to me the most suspicious people are the ones who WildZoo directly implicated so...

still yeet @Viscernable
 
stoat: stoat is a very chaotic player and I think they will always start on the wolfy side for me. They worked really hard in the noob game and it paid off imo. However, I can't see them being a villager at all atm. A lot of people have said what pings them about stoat, and while some of those things ping me too, what pings me the most is that they said they felt icky about Vis having so many votes and their response was to... contribute?? And add another vote for them? They didn't add any reasoning for doing so. In the noob game there was always a method to the madness and I'm not seeing that right now.
I don’t see the wolf reasons for doing this, though. It would be very easy to say that she felt there was resistance or that she felt good about the reasons others were voting me or something if wolf!stoat needed to make up a reason to vote me. The apparent inconsistency certainly pinged me but on reflection, since it was in the same post so it’s like she said it and forgot (indicatong fake wolfhunting), I don’t think I see it as wolfy. I’m curious as to @bluestoat’s reasoning, though (sorry if I missed it)
 
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