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[drdecaf]

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They recommended applying to osteopathic schools, and now people are being told that they cant even get into osteopathic medical schools with a 3.3-3.4 gpa.

MD≥DO. #TheMurge! It's happening.

 

[tony101]

MD≥DO. #TheMurge! It's happening.

yea probably in like 4-5 years, it will be pretty much the same for acceptance.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

I have no experience because its my first cycle but someone wrote this on my wall when I posted this question.

Early/Normal=anything before September/October (average stats, atleast 3.3-3.4gpa, 500 mcat)

Late = anything after September (only apply if you have stellar stats, >3.4 +503 mcat)

If snow has fallen south of the mason dixon......don't apply unless you have a 3.7 and 510+

Use the search function, there is a lot of chatter on this...

This is incredibly inaccurate. I would say anything AFTER December 1st-ish would be considered late for the DO cycle. I know several people, including myself who were sending in secondaries around that time and I accumulated 6-7 interviews, in which I was accepted to all 4 of which I attended. Acceptance dates ranging from November all the way to the last week of June. My stats were 505> MCAT, 3.5 > cGPA, and 3.4 > sGPA.

People are concerned because getting into medical school is important to them. I planned alot of my undergrad career around getting into medical school. I wish I chose a different institution because even though I maintained between the top 10-20% of my classes I still got this crappy gpa.

Most of us really want to become physicians and the ever increasing stats is creepy. I graduated highschool in 2012 and around the following summer, an admissions officer at an MD school in Maryland said I need a 3.5 and a 30 to get into their program. Now its like most MD schools dont even look at people with a 3.5 and a 30, infact those stats are DO stats now. Infact a new MD school which opened up around 2011 or so (TCMC) in Pennsylvania used to take an average of 29 MCAT.

I got my first B- in organic chemistry my third quarter and I googled what to do if my GPA falls below 3.4 or MCAT falls below 30. They recommended applying to osteopathic schools, (DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT DOWN OSTEOPATHIC MEDICAL SCHOOLS, I AM JUST RECITING WHAT THEY TOLD ME). And now people are being told that they cant even get into osteopathic medical schools with a 3.3-3.4 gpa.

Eh, you are worrying too much. A 3.6 and 30 aka 510+ MCAT will give you a very good shot at at least 1 acceptance at an MD school if the rest of your application is on par.

 

[parpar2222]

People chill. Just go look at last years underdawgs thread and that is only out of the small number of SDN posters. If you have a 3.2/3.2/500 you have a decent chance of getting into a DO school. I know people with those stats who got into some of the "top tier" schools and none of them had any special ECs or were URM.

your post gives me hope in this stressful time period. THANK YOU 😀

 

[MADD!!!]

I promise you I am 21 years old and I havent had my first beer yet. I dont even have a traffic violation. Theres honestly no red flag on my App that I can think of. I wanted to ask if my liberty university rejection might have been due to being non-catholic, (although I mentioned and emphasized Ive spent my entire level in catholic schools and college)

Just because someone said that admissions comes here and can easily find you doesn't mean it's true. Do you know how many apps they get?!! Keep your anonymity as much as possible, posting your presumably correct age doesn't help you here.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Just because someone said that admissions comes here and can easily find you doesn't mean it's true. Do you know how many apps they get?!! Keep your anonymity as much as possible, posting your presumably correct age doesn't help you here.

This is where you are mistaken 😉 it is very easy to find out who someone is on here if you are with a medical school admissions office.

 

[IslandStyle808]

This is where you are mistaken 😉 it is very easy to find out who someone is on here if you are with a medical school admissions office.

Right, but it also takes time and effort to do so. Do they have the time to look at 1000s of applications and pin point each person on SDN? I bet they could find a handful of people, but not everyone. Time is precious.

 

[jwilliams1993]

If it makes anyone feel at ease, I didn't get my secondaries submitted until late September/ early October and still got in with a 3.5 gpa and 3.3 sgpa. MCATs were 26 and 500. I didn't even get my first II until like November or December and another one a month after that. There is time! Look at your school lists again and see if there's a school you overlooked that you can still apply to. Stay hopeful. A lot of times, and this is all based on what I've seen here and concluded myself so it may be completely incorrect, schools are quick to take all of the high stats applicants first and sort of leave the average or below average until a tiny bit later. That's why I think it's so important to apply early. Yes, you may have average stats, but you were complete and ready to go before all of the other people with the same stats, and I assume that may count for something. Again, this could be completely off base. I honestly do believe that it's possible for some applicants to be below a school's requirements, send in the secondary with a fee, and then be rejected. It does seem like you've been cheated, I understand that feeling. But remember that it's up to us to check requirements and averages and everything!

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Right, but it also takes time and effort to do so. Do they have the time to look at 1000s of applications and pin point each person on SDN? I bet they could find a handful of people, but not everyone. Time is precious.

Again, think about it this way. They don't who you are unless you give them a reason to. If you start bad mouthing a school or say things that may come off as malicious or negative towards a school's image, then the chances of them finding out who you are are quite high. Think of it like this. We have a school specific thread where people post interview invites and dates they plan to attend interview. We have a "What are my chances" thread where students place their cGPA AND sGPA which those two numbers alone would almost single handedly pin point who you are, but then add in your MCAT score and ECs and boom...they know who you are. You can match someone's location or undergraduate institution to their interview date at a school and find out who they are..the list goes on and on. People on SDN are pretty careless when it comes to concealing their information, and given the access to your academic records and applications in the admissions office they can very easily find out who you are in a matter of minutes given just the most minute amount of information...trust me 😉 don't ever post that a school isn't your number one choice when you have an interview scheduled with them. You might just get an email from the dean...

 

[hallowmann]

Thanks will do so, already did sort of. Applying to all DO schools.

Im not from their area, but I do have lots of hours spent in under-served areas either volunteering or shadowing. I have about 300 hours in northern Pennsylvania, a few in the mid west, a couple in Oakland, CA . And I did emphasize that I was looking to end up practicing in an undeserved area which is why it met my mission. I just feel like with the notification that I will have a new MCAT taken in September, a little more waiting would have been better.

So you're sending in secondaries before your new MCAT? That's probably not a good idea for some schools. It's fine for one that wait to screen or hold your app on a "interview waitlist", but many schools don't wait and will reject you outright. If you really think you'll improve it might be in your best interest to wait for schools you're not sure where you stand.

Also be sure to contact schools regularly. Some schools are known to give interviews if you just show interest.

I promise you I am 21 years old and I havent had my first beer yet. I dont even have a traffic violation. Theres honestly no red flag on my App that I can think of. I wanted to ask if my liberty university rejection might have been due to being non-catholic, (although I mentioned and emphasized Ive spent my entire level in catholic schools and college)

There's something in your app. You need to contact schools that rejected you and ask what that is. I can't imagine you applying to 20 places with no interviews, especially if you were complete by Oct/Nov.

Also, LUCOM isn't catholic, MUCOM is catholic. LUCOM is southern Baptist and generally speaking aren't the biggest fans of catholics. I wouldn't have mentioned Catholicism unless it somehow related to your own spiritual belief system.

See Im confused because people were telling my friend with slightly lower stats, 3.3 cgpa and 3.1 but the same MCAT score that he has almost 0 change of getting into a DO school when he asked a question if applying early helps with low stats.

That's not true. There are schools with averages close to those stats. There really is something you're missing. Maybe a bad LOR, something amiss with your PS, I don't know. With your stats, I would at least expect interviews with a waitlist. Silence and rejections make me suspect that there's something you're missing.

MD≥DO. #TheMurge! It's happening.

yea probably in like 4-5 years, it will be pretty much the same for acceptance.

Guys, let's not have too much wishful thinking here. Until the LCME starts accrediting DO schools, you can eliminate that = part at least in terms of residency prospects. Or maybe you guys were being sarcastic...

 

[kingkapoor]

So you're sending in secondaries before your new MCAT? That's probably not a good idea for some schools. It's fine for one that wait to screen or hold your app on a "interview waitlist", but many schools don't wait and will reject you outright. If you really think you'll improve it might be in your best interest to wait for schools you're not sure where you stand.

Also be sure to contact schools regularly. Some schools are known to give interviews if you just show interest.



There's something in your app. You need to contact schools that rejected you and ask what that is. I can't imagine you applying to 20 places with no interviews, especially if you were complete by Oct/Nov.

Also, LUCOM isn't catholic, MUCOM is catholic. LUCOM is southern Baptist and generally speaking aren't the biggest fans of catholics. I wouldn't have mentioned Catholicism unless it somehow related to your own spiritual belief system.



That's not true. There are schools with averages close to those stats. There really is something you're missing. Maybe a bad LOR, something amiss with your PS, I don't know. With your stats, I would at least expect interviews with a waitlist. Silence and rejections make me suspect that there's something you're missing.





Guys, let's not have too much wishful thinking here. Until the LCME starts accrediting DO schools, you can eliminate that = part at least in terms of residency prospects. Or maybe you guys were being sarcastic...

Im not good at quoting so ill try to number the responses
1. I understand what youre saying about secondaries, but if my MCAT doesnt come out well, then Im screwed. If my current stats have a chance at any of the lower schools, Im atleast trying to take advantage of the early applications in the cycle.
2. When you say contact, what do you mean, because for the few schools I did contact its usually just a secretary/representative who gives you the standard "response", your application is in process and being reviewed. I realize it may seem like I look like a lazy guy on here, but I do go the extra mile. Last year I emailed each and every school a visual presentation/timeline with all the projects I have completed/research/papers with clip art photos, and everything (Kind of looks like those timelines in kid's history textbooks. I cant speak for every school but I know some of them found it interesting and unique. (touro CA and another one I cant remember but I didnt even have close to the stats they require)
3. I really dont know what it is in my App, and I honestly feel Oct/Nov is too late for someone of my stats because: The lady who is the director or some high position at AACOMAS during a lecture explained the importance of being complete prior to November because anyone who submits after November is really risking it due to the December christmas down time. I did get a couple of interview waitlists, I am trying to remember all the schools, I Know MWU Arizona, touro NV, I think Des Moines, and a few more I cant remember. A few schools never responded to me at all, West Virginia, Lake Eeries (both), I think touro NY, Pikeville (it is a little upsetting you pay an application fee and you cant get even a rejection letter)

4. Thanks for the point.

5. And cool, for me at this point I just want to get in.

 

[kingkapoor]

Again, think about it this way. They don't who you are unless you give them a reason to. If you start bad mouthing a school or say things that may come off as malicious or negative towards a school's image, then the chances of them finding out who you are are quite high. Think of it like this. We have a school specific thread where people post interview invites and dates they plan to attend interview. We have a "What are my chances" thread where students place their cGPA AND sGPA which those two numbers alone would almost single handedly pin point who you are, but then add in your MCAT score and ECs and boom...they know who you are. You can match someone's location or undergraduate institution to their interview date at a school and find out who they are..the list goes on and on. People on SDN are pretty careless when it comes to concealing their information, and given the access to your academic records and applications in the admissions office they can very easily find out who you are in a matter of minutes given just the most minute amount of information...trust me 😉 don't ever post that a school isn't your number one choice when you have an interview scheduled with them. You might just get an email from the dean...

I honestly dont think Ive said anything offensive in this post though. Ive expressed my frustration with not receiving at least a rejection letter from schools after paying for a secondary. And asked questions about why a school has attained a negative outlook in the SDN community.
I understand there are times to be polite and respectful (which I am trying to do here), but in the end SDN is a student forum for people to ask questions so they can get into medical school since the actual process is so strict and rigid (no room for error). If a school wants to say no to me because Im trying to seek advice in an advice forum, so be it.

 

[FutureDO08]

Again, think about it this way. They don't who you are unless you give them a reason to. If you start bad mouthing a school or say things that may come off as malicious or negative towards a school's image, then the chances of them finding out who you are are quite high. Think of it like this. We have a school specific thread where people post interview invites and dates they plan to attend interview. We have a "What are my chances" thread where students place their cGPA AND sGPA which those two numbers alone would almost single handedly pin point who you are, but then add in your MCAT score and ECs and boom...they know who you are. You can match someone's location or undergraduate institution to their interview date at a school and find out who they are..the list goes on and on. People on SDN are pretty careless when it comes to concealing their information, and given the access to your academic records and applications in the admissions office they can very easily find out who you are in a matter of minutes given just the most minute amount of information...trust me 😉 don't ever post that a school isn't your number one choice when you have an interview scheduled with them. You might just get an email from the dean...

Lol so that was your story?! Haha I wish I could have seen the email


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[OrdinaryDO]

I honestly dont think Ive said anything offensive in this post though. Ive expressed my frustration with not receiving at least a rejection letter from schools after paying for a secondary. And asked questions about why a school has attained a negative outlook in the SDN community.
I understand there are times to be polite and respectful (which I am trying to do here), but in the end SDN is a student forum for people to ask questions so they can get into medical school since the actual process is so strict and rigid (no room for error). If a school wants to say no to me because Im trying to seek advice in an advice forum, so be it.

Oh, no, don't get my posts confused with what you were talking about. I was just saying that the possibility is very real -- I had no intention of directing it towards you or by any means insinuate you did something that would trigger this to happen. I have learned from experience that these boards are being monitored by EVERYONE. So. Be careful what you say, these forums have eyes 😉

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Last year I emailed each and every school a visual presentation/timeline with all the projects I have completed/research/papers with clip art photos, and everything (Kind of looks like those timelines in kid's history textbooks. I cant speak for every school but I know some of them found it interesting and unique. (touro CA and another one I cant remember but I didnt even have close to the stats they require)

If you didn't get an interview there, then no they didn't... Why would you do this? Honestly this could have been what did you in. Why was this info not on your primary?

 

[kingkapoor]

If you didn't get an interview there, then no they didn't... Why would you do this? Honestly this could have been what did you in. Why was this info not on your primary?

Youre saying a visual aid to help someone understand my application better rather than a bunch of garbled up text the way AACOMAS spits it out is a negative? all the information was on my primary, the visual aid was just a creative way to show it to them.

 

[coffee-doc]

Youre saying a visual aid to help someone understand my application better rather than a bunch of garbled up text the way AACOMAS spits it out is a negative? all the information was on my primary, the visual aid was just a creative way to show it to them.

this is literally so funny. I'm just imagining the admissions committee (which probably is comprised of older white men that see 1000's of apps and are tired at the end of the day) getting a scrapbook with some clippings in it. and they're all sitting around a table with the scrapbook in the middle, with the same thoughts but nobody wants to say it out loud.
"What the **** is this?"

 

[OrdinaryDO]

this is literally so funny. I'm just imagining the admissions committee (which probably is comprised of older white men that see 1000's of apps and are tired at the end of the day) getting a scrapbook with some clippings in it. and they're all sitting around a table with the scrapbook in the middle, with the same thoughts but nobody wants to say it out loud.
"What the **** is this?"

Hahaha

 

[IslandStyle808]

Again, think about it this way. They don't who you are unless you give them a reason to. If you start bad mouthing a school or say things that may come off as malicious or negative towards a school's image, then the chances of them finding out who you are are quite high. Think of it like this. We have a school specific thread where people post interview invites and dates they plan to attend interview. We have a "What are my chances" thread where students place their cGPA AND sGPA which those two numbers alone would almost single handedly pin point who you are, but then add in your MCAT score and ECs and boom...they know who you are. You can match someone's location or undergraduate institution to their interview date at a school and find out who they are..the list goes on and on. People on SDN are pretty careless when it comes to concealing their information, and given the access to your academic records and applications in the admissions office they can very easily find out who you are in a matter of minutes given just the most minute amount of information...trust me 😉 don't ever post that a school isn't your number one choice when you have an interview scheduled with them. You might just get an email from the dean...

Based on this post and the ones after, I have a feels you put this information on those threads and one school has found out who you are? Would I be correct assuming this?

You can definitely find a person out on here, I totally agree. Some are more difficult than others. A person who posts on a school specific thread and with their exact stats would easily have themselves figured out (even MD apps alone). If you don't post those things and on those specific threads, doesn't mean you won't be found out. It means it won't take a few minutes to do so. It could take a few hours, depending on post history, which is time they may or may not have.

Say something bad about their school or its not their number one choice, this is enough reason to look at your account. I agree here also.

 

[kingkapoor]

this is literally so funny. I'm just imagining the admissions committee (which probably is comprised of older white men that see 1000's of apps and are tired at the end of the day) getting a scrapbook with some clippings in it. and they're all sitting around a table with the scrapbook in the middle, with the same thoughts but nobody wants to say it out loud.
"What the **** is this?"

Your status is still premedical, you really shouldnt be picking on my choices unless your an adcom member. Seriously, if you want to provide something constructive go ahead and do so, if not leave the thread in peace. Maybe you find it useless, others dont.

Edit: It isnt a scrap book. It is literally a time line with bubbles and pictures of medical inventions I have come up with, looks pretty similar to this http://blog.harbinger-systems.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/3D-Evolution-Timeline.png.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Based on this post and the ones after, I have a feels you put this information on those threads and one school has found out who you are? Would I be correct assuming this?

You can definitely find a person out on here, I totally agree. Some are more difficult than others. A person who posts on a school specific thread and with their exact stats would easily have themselves figured out (even MD apps alone). If you don't post those things and on those specific threads, doesn't mean you won't be found out. It means it won't take a few minutes to do so. It could take a few hours, depending on post history, which is time they may or may not have.

Say something bad about their school or its not their number one choice, this is enough reason to look at your account. I agree here also.

You would be correct. I made the mistake of saying I got an interview somewhere, but it wasn't my top choice. Everyone has a ranking in their mind of which school they would choose over all others if they were given the opportunity to do so. I was fortunate enough to actually get my top choice rather late into the cycle, but I am just happy I have the opportunity to fulfil my dreams at an institution I have looked up to for quite some time. The other school I said that about was not meant in any kind of ill will, it was just the simple fact that the financial strain and distance from my fiancé kind of made it obvious I would have chosen a school closer to home if given the opportunity. However, schools don't like to here this, obviously. If they give you an II they expect you to choose their school. At least that's how it came off in that email.

 

[hallowmann]

Im not good at quoting so ill try to number the responses
1. I understand what youre saying about secondaries, but if my MCAT doesnt come out well, then Im screwed. If my current stats have a chance at any of the lower schools, Im atleast trying to take advantage of the early applications in the cycle.
2. When you say contact, what do you mean, because for the few schools I did contact its usually just a secretary/representative who gives you the standard "response", your application is in process and being reviewed. I realize it may seem like I look like a lazy guy on here, but I do go the extra mile. Last year I emailed each and every school a visual presentation/timeline with all the projects I have completed/research/papers with clip art photos, and everything (Kind of looks like those timelines in kid's history textbooks. I cant speak for every school but I know some of them found it interesting and unique. (touro CA and another one I cant remember but I didnt even have close to the stats they require)
3. I really dont know what it is in my App, and I honestly feel Oct/Nov is too late for someone of my stats because: The lady who is the director or some high position at AACOMAS during a lecture explained the importance of being complete prior to November because anyone who submits after November is really risking it due to the December christmas down time. I did get a couple of interview waitlists, I am trying to remember all the schools, I Know MWU Arizona, touro NV, I think Des Moines, and a few more I cant remember. A few schools never responded to me at all, West Virginia, Lake Eeries (both), I think touro NY, Pikeville (it is a little upsetting you pay an application fee and you cant get even a rejection letter)

4. Thanks for the point.

5. And cool, for me at this point I just want to get in.

I'd call instead of emailing with contacting the schools, unless the school explicitly says not to.

Interview waitlist isn't what I'm talking about. You really should have had multiple interviews last cycle. I can't help but think something is missing. Are you sure your app is complete at every school? Do you know what's written in your LORs? Are you missing a DO LOR? Something doesn't add up and you need to make sure it's fixed early in this cycle. The app cycle is a crapshoot but with your stats and 20 school apps, you should at least have an interview or two.

If you don't hear anything by the time your MCAT gets back, I would look into GPA repair.

Also, you really shouldn't take the MCAT unless you're sure you'll do better. In other words you're doing well above your goal on practice tests.

 

[edgerock24]

Can't you simply email the Dean of BCOM after getting rejected, and get a second look/acceptance?

 

[JoeUSA]

Your status is still premedical, you really shouldnt be picking on my choices unless your an adcom member. Seriously, if you want to provide something constructive go ahead and do so, if not leave the thread in peace. Maybe you find it useless, others dont.

Edit: It isnt a scrap book. It is literally a time line with bubbles and pictures of medical inventions I have come up with, looks pretty similar to this http://blog.harbinger-systems.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/3D-Evolution-Timeline.png.

It is an excellent original idea. Original ideas are sometimes underappreciated because they do not fit into a pre-existing mold. When you came up with that concept, you were thinking out-of-the-box. Go with it!

 

[pizza1994]

It is an excellent original idea. Original ideas are sometimes underappreciated because they do not fit into a pre-existing mold. When you came up with that concept, you were thinking out-of-the-box. Go with it!

Must Agree! I loved it! Creative and unique! (just my opinion 🙂 )

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

It is an excellent original idea. Original ideas are sometimes underappreciated because they do not fit into a pre-existing mold. When you came up with that concept, you were thinking out-of-the-box. Go with it!

But the point is that he already did this and got 0 interviews... If he truly has no other flags on his app then this probably didn't go over the way he wanted it to or the way you are presenting it. He has the stats that should have netted at least a few II, especially if he applied to the newer schools like he said he did. Either this is the reason or there is some other large deficiency on his app that he isn't seeing.

 

[tony101]

But the point is that he already did this and got 0 interviews... If he truly has no other flags on his app then this probably didn't go over the way he wanted it to or the way you are presenting it. He has the stats that should have netted at least a few II, especially if he applied to the newer schools like he said he did. Either this is the reason or there is some other large deficiency on his app that he isn't seeing.

This is also true. I mean last year with a 3.4Cum gpa, early application, 501 on the mcat. I mean unless he had no Letter of recs and no EC'S which I'm assuming he had. Then there has to be something missing...It just isn't adding up. I would understand if he applied to only MD but applying to a ton of DO schools and nothing? You can't solve the equation if you don't have all the variables.

 

[mathnerd88]

Your status is still premedical, you really shouldnt be picking on my choices unless your an adcom member. Seriously, if you want to provide something constructive go ahead and do so, if not leave the thread in peace. Maybe you find it useless, others dont.

Edit: It isnt a scrap book. It is literally a time line with bubbles and pictures of medical inventions I have come up with, looks pretty similar to this http://blog.harbinger-systems.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/3D-Evolution-Timeline.png.

Can you PM your PS to me? Maybe I can give some input.

 

[Ho0v-man]

I'd call and ask about it. Maybe you have a toxic LOR.


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[MADD!!!]

Students can easily lie or post inaccurate information on these forums about themselves and not be accountable for it. If a medical school admissions rep takes everything posted here as 100% factual, it can easily lead to false assumptions on their part.

Don't believe me? Just ask @Goro how many medical schools people have thought he has been an admin for based on his posts.

Med schools may be right or wrong when pin-pointing someone out from here, but to use the information here for admissions purposes in a typical situation seems ridiculous to me.

 

[mathnerd88]

Students can easily lie or post inaccurate information on these forums about themselves and not be accountable for it. If a medical school admissions rep takes everything posted here as 100% factual, it can easily lead to false assumptions on their part.

Don't believe me? Just ask @Goro how many medical schools people have thought he has been an admin for based on his posts.

Med schools may be right or wrong when pin-pointing someone out from here, but to use the information here for admissions purposes in a typical situation seems ridiculous to me.

To be honest, if med schools admins are actually on SDN trying to figure out who is who based on posts and trying to accept/reject people based on the posts they make on here, then they have too much time on their hands and should be focusing more on selecting quality applicants than being on here dealing with silly SDNers.

Also, I would not want to attend a medical school who does things like that. Anything posted on here definitely could be lies or someone pretending to be someone else. Anyone to go so far as to trying to figure out the actual identity of posters on here would be borderline stalking (and could be illegal in some states.) I personally think it is weird for a medical school to actually go and eliminate applicants based on what they post here without solid proof. All evidence is really just circumstantial.

Although some identities could be figured out based on posts, I doubt they influence decisions when it comes to acceptance/rejection.

 

[Goro]

I wouldn't go that far.

This is where you are mistaken 😉 it is very easy to find out who someone is on here if you are with a medical school admissions office.

 

[kingkapoor]

This is also true. I mean last year with a 3.4Cum gpa, early application, 501 on the mcat. I mean unless he had no Letter of recs and no EC'S which I'm assuming he had. Then there has to be something missing...It just isn't adding up. I would understand if he applied to only MD but applying to a ton of DO schools and nothing? You can't solve the equation if you don't have all the variables.

I had 6 letters of Rec, Including a DO doc from a DO school, I have around 300 maybe more (im not even looking at my resume right now ) hours of shadowing, Around 80 of volunteering in low health-income areas, a published paper, couple of inventions, a research internship which dealt with recording values and database'ing them to make charts and tables for medical papers to be published.

 

[kingkapoor]

I'd call and ask about it. Maybe you have a toxic LOR.


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I don't. Believe me. Thats about all I can say on here about LOR.

 

[kingkapoor]

Can you PM your PS to me? Maybe I can give some input.

Yes I can, and as soon as I get out of work, I will, probably before tomorrow.

 

[kingkapoor]

Can't you simply email the Dean of BCOM after getting rejected, and get a second look/acceptance?

Can I?

 

[tony101]

I had 6 letters of Rec, Including a DO doc from a DO school, I have around 300 maybe more (im not even looking at my resume right now ) hours of shadowing, Around 80 of volunteering in low health-income areas, a published paper, couple of inventions, a research internship which dealt with recording values and database'ing them to make charts and tables for medical papers to be published.

That literally doesn't make ANY sense what so ever. I am in awe with what is going on if you really had all those stats, letter, EC'S and still somehow didn't get ANY interviews at all.

 

[kingkapoor]

That literally doesn't make ANY sense what so ever. I am in awe with what is going on if you really had all those stats, letter, EC'S and still somehow didn't get ANY interviews at all.

I honestly feel its the MCAT score, everywhere I shop around has a high MCAT requirement. 27's 28's 29's.

 

[tony101]

I honestly feel its the MCAT score, everywhere I shop around has a high MCAT requirement. 27's 28's 29's.

Maybe?? You aren't insane far off from most averages. You are actually some of the schools average MCAT scores. I don't know, it's a very odd case that you have 0 interviews. You might want to contact these schools and ask because it seems like something is missing.

 

[kamakazi5]

I honestly feel its the MCAT score, everywhere I shop around has a high MCAT requirement. 27's 28's 29's.

It's still a score that gets a good amount of people IIs and acceptances at DO schools.

What was you grade trend through undergrad? Did you have a lot of Cs in science courses? What changes did you make in your app between this year and last?

 

[drkube]

I don't see anything out of the ordinary to be rejected like that, other than below avg stats. I'd definitely email admissions to get a better idea.

Maybe they were snooping on sdn and didn't like that you spelled "burrel" wrong

 

[DetectiveAlonzo]

BCOM had a red line of ~3.25 for sGPA last cycle. OP should avoid CUSOM as well.

Ima go ahead and say that I'm glad they are stepping up their game this cycle.

BCOM is gonna be somethin' serious in due time.

Also... that emailing the dean and pleading for an acceptance was a very rare occurrence as I have stalked the applicant that received the acceptance and he/she had a truly unique application and personified the school's mission to a tee.

With BCOM... if you don't fit the mission, you will not be getting serious looks. Just know. Apparently, the dean admitted to folks that interviewed there that they had rejected folks with up to 33 MCATs and had accepted people with as low as 25 (from a source who went to one of the interviews last year).

 

[mathnerd88]

Ima go ahead and say that I'm glad they are stepping up their game this cycle.

BCOM is gonna be somethin' serious in due time.

Also... that emailing the dean and pleading for an acceptance was a very rare occurrence as I have stalked the applicant that received the acceptance and he/she had a truly unique application and personified the school's mission to a tee.

With BCOM... if you don't fit the mission, you will not be getting serious looks. Just know. Apparently, the dean admitted to folks that interviewed there that they had rejected folks with up to 33 MCATs and had accepted people with as low as 25 (from a source who went to one of the interviews last year).

To be fair, almost all DO schools do reject some of those with high stats.

 

[femmegoblue]

I had 6 letters of Rec, Including a DO doc from a DO school, I have around 300 maybe more (im not even looking at my resume right now ) hours of shadowing, Around 80 of volunteering in low health-income areas, a published paper, couple of inventions, a research internship which dealt with recording values and database'ing them to make charts and tables for medical papers to be published.

Can you elaborate on "a couple of inventions"?

 

[sizillyd]

Can you elaborate on "a couple of inventions"?

He invented the piano key necktie!

 

[kingkapoor]

Can you elaborate on "a couple of inventions"?

I cant elaborate entirely. I have a total of 7. 5 are medical device or pharmaceutical inventions conducted by me alone, or groups with up to three peers. Some are modifications to the original device, some are a new device all together, some are -to the bedside hospital experience.

The only one I can disclose is the non-medical device which is basically an accordion style lid for ice cream containers with a small valve on the top, to add on food containers (mainly ice cream) and remove air from the container. This one I was invited by the home shopping network and paramount studios to present on.
I would disclose the others but when I was discussing one with a surgeon a week ago, he asked if I patented it, and when I answered no, he started giving me some fishy expressions.

 

[hallowmann]

Can I?

Not really, but you should call and ask them what you can improve in your app or if there is anything in particular that resulted in the rejection. I'd do the same with any school you get rejected from.

I'm telling you man, somethings not right. No interviews with slightly below average stats and applying to 20 schools really doesn't make sense. You need to review everything with a fine tooth comb and be sure it's all solid. Maybe set up a meeting with a adcom member or admin at a local DO school and review your app with them.

 

[kingkapoor]

Not really, but you should call and ask them what you can improve in your app or if there is anything in particular that resulted in the rejection. I'd do the same with any school you get rejected from.

I'm telling you man, somethings not right. No interviews with slightly below average stats and applying to 20 schools really doesn't make sense. You need to review everything with a fine tooth comb and be sure it's all solid. Maybe set up a meeting with a adcom member or admin at a local DO school and review your app with them.

Im trying again this cycle to see if applying early gives me any luck but it doesnt seem so lol. Apparently LECOM and Burrell (obviously by this post) have already sent out their II's. I will call the schools and ask. I just feel that they wont entertain it because they reject many students each year.

I did meet with one person in the ad-com at Touro, and the best I could get was contact this "third year student" and have him go over your app with you. Still haven't received a response 2.5 months later . It was a little disheartening because when I shadowed there, the ad-com member mentioned a few new schools opening up, and how they knew the dean of the school (s), and if nothing happens for me this cycle (last cycle), contact them and they will personally talk to the dean about my profile. I do have a unique profile as far as my EC's go, Ive done some cool stuff I just dont want to say it all out on here to remain anonymous. Anyway, when I contacted that person from Touro in May explaining I didnt get in, and heres what I planned to do this cycle to improve, they didnt even consider talking to the dean as promised.

I feel like after this cycle Ill probably move onto something else.

 

[Ho0v-man]

Delete the inventions elaboration post. Anyone with your app could easily see who you are by that description. How many applicants have "inventions" at all?


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[OrdinaryDO]

Im trying again this cycle to see if applying early gives me any luck but it doesnt seem so lol. Apparently LECOM and Burrell (obviously by this post) have already sent out their II's. I will call the schools and ask. I just feel that they wont entertain it because they reject many students each year.

I did meet with one person in the ad-com at Touro, and the best I could get was contact this "third year student" and have him go over your app with you. Still haven't received a response 2.5 months later . It was a little disheartening because when I shadowed there, the ad-com member mentioned a few new schools opening up, and how they knew the dean of the school (s), and if nothing happens for me this cycle (last cycle), contact them and they will personally talk to the dean about my profile. I do have a unique profile as far as my EC's go, Ive done some cool stuff I just dont want to say it all out on here to remain anonymous. Anyway, when I contacted that person from Touro in May explaining I didnt get in, and heres what I planned to do this cycle to improve, they didnt even consider talking to the dean as promised.

I feel like after this cycle Ill probably move onto something else.

Just my personal opinion, but if a school won't even take 5 minutes out of their day to give you a very brief explanation as to why you were rejected, then you bet I wouldn't be attending there. I understand there are a lot of applicants, but even it if took a month or two to get back to my I'd be fine....but, to actually refer you to a 3rd year who has no idea what he or she is looking for..that's insulting.