Medical Can I still get into medical school with a rough start to college?

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Hello,
I had made a post in the past that recorded my progression as a medical school applicant from my first to, what is now my fourth, semester. This is a repeat thread for the same question with some updates, and I want to explain my entire situation with some better context, and hopefully receive a truthful answer that doesn't sugarcoat whatever reality I may be in for getting into medical school. To begin, in my first semester at my undergraduate university (top 20, heavily deflating undergrad school for context). I received a B in Gen chem and Lab, a B+ in Sociology, a C+ in Calculus, and a Pass in Spanish. My second semester I received an A- in Biology (lab included in class), an A- in a classics class, and a C- in statistics. I took Organic Chem (with lab) over the summer and received an A. My third semester I received a B+ in Biology, an A in biology Lab, an A- in an english class, and an A in another elective. However, due to circumstances that I can explain in the comments, I Pass/no pass'ed a physics class (ultimately receiving a Pass). I stand at a 3.250 GPA at the moment, and currently have hard A's across the board in my fourth semester (finals coming up), including two elective classes, ochem 2, and ochem 2 lab. I plan on taking the second half of the physics series this upcoming summer, and taking calculus-based physics my junior year to replace the physics 1 class I received a P for in my third semester. By the end of the summer, I should stand at a 3.5 if I do well In my upcoming physics class. I have been told by many of my older colleagues that the upper division courses at my university are much easier to do, and for pre-meds, most consistently receive 3.9+ for their final four semesters quite easily. This means I can, in all realism, receive a 3.75-3.8 overall GPA (with similar stats for stem gpa), by the time I graduate. My only question is were the actions I did in my first two-three semesters detrimental to me getting into medical school, despite having a very powerful upward trend, and still ending with a good GPA, which when accompanied by a potentially powerful MCAT, will potentially make me a great applicant. I just want some honest answers so I know where I stand in this whole process and if I have a legitimate chance to get into a top medical school (state of residence and education is California by the way). Thank you for reading this and please give me your feedback as best you can.
Only you will determine if you could get into medical school, that's 100% on you. We can only advise as to Chances
 
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You've focused your description on your grades, and thus I have no clue on your experiences pertaining to medicine and health care. I also don't have any sense of your involvement or passion to work with underserved and underresourced vulnerable populations in the US that need care. Yes, you will determine your path with your grades, MCAT, and your experiences.

I've done 80 hours of clinical shadowing and I was a hospital intern my senior year of high school, plenty of patient interaction. I plan on doing another clinical internship at UCSF health center in the next semester as well. I shadowed an anesthesiologist, ER specialist, a cardiologist, and a urology specialist. My question was focusing not on if my experiences or external activities were limited, those are various and I can discuss those more if you would like me to, but rather my grades alone and if the few bad marks I received are permanently weighing down my chances of going to a good medical school. I apologize if that wasn't completely clear.
 
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What are your year by year GPAs?
First semester: 2.866
Second Semester: 3.03 (Overall: 2.95)
Third Semester: 3.764 (Overall: 3.250)
Fourth Semester: 4.0 (so far I'm still not done, need to take finals) (If I DO get the 4.0, then overall: 3.44)
 
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I also listed each one of my individual grades in the original text, if that can give any additional layer of specificity, and I'm afraid that the individual grades themselves are harmful, as most of the bad GPA are harbored in a few grades, rather than spread out over multiple
Having individual grades tells us nothing.

I suggest that with a good MCAT score, that you apply. Chances will be best with your state schools.
 
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Is there any way to gauge how good or bad of an applicant I am? I ask because if I do get a good MCAT score and maintain a high GPA (3.75+) I don't see why I can't apply, in serious confidence, to a top medical school.
You can't focus on single metrics. But without an MCAT score, we can't deal with hypotheticals as to how competitive you are.

You should be less concerned right now with getting into a top medical school and focusing on getting into medical school. You will need DO schools on your list, as beggars can't be choosy. But MD schools as varied as UCSF, Columbia, Drexel and Albany reward reinvention

You can helps up by telling us how many hours:
shadowing
clinical exposure
nonclinical volunteering'research

And read this too:
 
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I'm just still really confused about what part of my application has been so detrimental that even by the end of my senior year, I would still only be concerned about the very getting into medical school at all. It's very realistic that I end my college career with a 3.7-3.8, which all though slightly on the lower end of the GPA spectrum, I don't think will force me to go DO. I understand that I can't gauge hypothetical chances without an official MCAT score, but I would like to know what you think I did was so detrimental, that even if I fully recover my GPA from it, would still inhibit me from going to a great medical school. Additionally, I took a practice MCAT if that means anything, and received a 514.
Practice MCAT scores mean nothing.

Your problem right now is you have a c GPA of 3.44 or that will be your maximum if you can Ace your remaining courses. That is 0.4 basis points below the national median for MD schools.

Because of this, and because it is a seller's market, there are plenty of MD schools that will take a pass on you but there were the others that will reward you for your reinvention.

But because you are a real inventor I repeat, Beggars can't be choosy and you will need to have do schools on your list. Do you really want to risk having to repeat an application cycle and you losing a year of clinician salary?
 
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By that I mean a cGPA if a 3.7-3.8
IF you can get your cGPA, and sGPA above the 3.5 mark, you'll be be med school bound with a good MCAT and app.

So getting back to your OP, it's not too late, and your GPA damage will not be lethal.
 
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