Can US students apply to Canadian medical schools?

[bargsachs]

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I'm a US citizen but live very close to the Northern border and in many ways consider myself both a Canadian and a USer. I would like to apply to both Canadian and US medical schools if possible. In addition to the question as to if it's possible to apply to both, I have another question:

Canadian trained doctors can get US residencies or work in US hospitals, correct? How about the other way around?

 

[Flashfan]

You can apply to at least one (McGill). Understand that 90% of their spots are reserved for in-province and the other 10% can be filled by international and out of province. You would probably need near perfect MCAT, since their median is already much higher. I don't know about residency though.

 

[ridethecliche]

Why?

Canadians apply stateside because it's easier to get in....

 

[bargsachs]

How about getting all my credentials in the US and moving to Canada as an attending? Would that work?

 

[WingedOx]

How about getting all my credentials in the US and moving to Canada as an attending? Would that work?

Canadian MLEs.

plus the training requirements vary slightly depending on the specialty.

/also they have a super secret test where the judge your ability to pronounce the weird way that Canadians say "out".

 

[Almighty Saguaro]

@bargsachs
Not sure if you still need this info but in response to an above post, you absolutely do not need a "near perfect MCAT." MCAT is a lot more important in the States. Of the schools mentioned, UofT just has a minimum cut-off above which MCAT doesn't matter (9+ or 125+ in each section), McMaster only looks at the verbal/CARS score, and McGill, strictly speaking, does NOT require the MCAT since they also cater to a Francophone population for which the MCAT is not available. That's not to say that high MCAT is universally not required; you'll have to look into the exact methods of each school you decide to apply to.

As @gonnif mentioned, premed101 is an invaluable resource for Canadian applications. Let me know if you need any further information.

 

[allantois]

Sure, just say you are fleeing from Trump.

 

[NotASerialKiller]

Getting into Canadian med schools as an OOP (out of province) applicant is stupidly hard, as an international applicant it would be just as bad or worse. Canadian students apply in the US because there are so few Canadian schools that you need a way to increase your chances in a given year. There's very little incentive for US students to apply in Canada, as there are so many med schools in the US that the cost of applying to all of them will limit you, not the number of schools. You could apply if you want, but there are so few seats reserved even for OOP Canadians that your chances would be vanishingly small.

As for your other questions, getting a US MD means that you're still relatively competitive for matching in most Canadian specialities, but Canadian MDs will still get priority. Going to med school in any other country or getting a US DO means that you are considered an IMG, which means that you'll get into Family, Psychiatry and sometimes Internal. Everything else will be really hard, and you'll probably need some sort of connection to get a spot. I'm not sure how Canadian MDs applying for US residencies fair.

 

[deleted716403]

If you can't get in in the US, you won't get in in Canada.

 

[Almighty Saguaro]

If you can't get in in the US, you won't get in in Canada.

Agreed...
Assuming the person applies to the right mix of US schools

 

[Mad Jack]

Apply all you want, but your chances of getting in are virtually nonexistent.

 

[torontopharm]

Highly doubtful that you'll get in.
Couple of my friends moved to live in other provinces for a couple of years just to get the "in-province" status and meet lower cutoffs at those provinces. Getting in as an OOP is ridiculously hard even as a Canadian.

 

[torontopharm]

Getting into Canadian med schools as an OOP (out of province) applicant is stupidly hard, as an international applicant it would be just as bad or worse. Canadian students apply in the US because there are so few Canadian schools that you need a way to increase your chances in a given year. There's very little incentive for US students to apply in Canada, as there are so many med schools in the US that the cost of applying to all of them will limit you, not the number of schools. You could apply if you want, but there are so few seats reserved even for OOP Canadians that your chances would be vanishingly small.

As for your other questions, getting a US MD means that you're still relatively competitive for matching in most Canadian specialities, but Canadian MDs will still get priority. Going to med school in any other country or getting a US DO means that you are considered an IMG, which means that you'll get into Family, Psychiatry and sometimes Internal. Everything else will be really hard, and you'll probably need some sort of connection to get a spot. I'm not sure how Canadian MDs applying for US residencies fair.

As far as i know, DO's aren't considered IMGs in a couple of provinces. BC, Alberta and *i think* Manitoba? They're considered IMG's for rest of the provinces, with Ontario being the most recent one to downgrade DO's to IMGs.

 

[NotASerialKiller]

As far as i know, DO's aren't considered IMGs in a couple of provinces. BC, Alberta and *i think* Manitoba? They're considered IMG's for rest of the provinces, with Ontario being the most recent one to downgrade DO's to IMGs.

Ah okay, that's good to know. I'll probably apply to DO schools next cycle if I'm unsuccessful this year, since I'll likely want to do my residency in Ontario.

 

[SomeGirl]

Sorry for crashing this thread, which is a few months old, but can a US citizen with a US MD apply for Canadian residency? If not, could they move to Canada right after residency? I'm still really confused by all of this. Thank you in advance!