Canadian Applicants for 2014

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Do any other Canadians find it extremely discouraging that your chance of being accepted into vet school is limited by a choice of.. basically one school per region? I mean, atlantic residents - AVC, ontarians - OVC, francophones - Montreal, and the western residents - Western and UoC.

The thought of applying to a US school is great, but given the international student tuition/living costs, it seems pretty impossible. NOT FAIR!

 

[david594]

The thought of applying to a US school is great, but given the international student tuition/living costs, it seems pretty impossible. NOT FAIR!

The international tuition/living costs are basically the same as US out of state costs which something like 1/3 of us pay.

Not fair is that you guys have an option with tuition at less than $5k per semester.

 

[Sharpei5]

Not fair is that you guys have an option with tuition at less than $5k per semester.

Respect

 

[DVMhopeful]

The reason we are able to keep tuition at about 5k a semester is bc our provincial government gives money to the school (at the AVC anyway) to subsidize tuition...but this means they can only pony up enough money for 11 people out of each atlantic province to go to vet school each year...not very many when you only have one place to apply to...

 

[nyanko]

Yeah but you guys can apply to US schools too, right? In which case you're pretty much no different from people who live in states without a vet school (or states with contract seats, more appropriately).

So I guess what I'm saying is don't expect people here to feel that bad for you. It's not exactly easy for any of us, and most of us have absolutely zero chance of paying $5k a semester rather than a small chance. 😉

 

[DVMhopeful]

haha oh boy, I wasn't looking for anyone to feel sorry for me, I was just providing a little information on why our tuition is lower. 🙄

 

[xl3000]

You can apply to other Canadian vet schools, you just have to establish residency in the province. Usually it is 12 months not attending university. You can read about it at http://www.usask.ca/wcvm/admissions/admissions_details.php#rules for WCVM and at http://www.ovc.uoguelph.ca/future/dvm/admissions/non-academic/ for OVC. OVC tuition is $3700/semester, not 5k.
You could also check out AVMA accredited vet schools in Australia, New Zealand, the UK and Ireland. You actually have quite a bit of choice.

 

[DVMhopeful]

Yep, that's true about being able to apply to different schools, but like you said you have to establish residency in the area. Therefore, if you want to go to school in Canada, you can only really apply to one school at a time bc you can't have residency in more then one province at the same time. If I were to have gone to Ontario for a year and become a resident I could have applied to OVC...but then I would no longer be eligible to apply to AVC bc I was no longer a resident.

Long story short, I am not looking for sympathy as I have already gotten into a school, just stating some facts about some of the choice limitations Canadian vet student face if they want to stay in their own country...besdies it's not easy for anyone, no matter where they are applying.

 

[xl3000]

Yep, that's true about being able to apply to different schools, but like you said you have to establish residency in the area. Therefore, if you want to go to school in Canada, you can only really apply to one school at a time bc you can't have residency in more then one province at the same time. If I were to have gone to Ontario for a year and become a resident I could have applied to OVC...but then I would no longer be eligible to apply to AVC bc I was no longer a resident.

This is not necessarily correct, at least according to this website from AVC: http://www.upei.ca/registrar/3_prof_degree_dvm .If your last attendance at high school was in Atlantic Canada, or the permanent home address of a parent is in Atlantic Canada then you are considered a resident, no matter what. If neither one of these conditions are true then you are correct. OVC's requirement is 12 months of time living in Ontario not in university at any time in your life, and not necessarily consecutive. Not sure about WCVM, but it sounds like it is similar to OVC.
Long story short, if you want to apply to more than one Canadian vet school, even at the same time, there are ways to do it.

 

[pawprints]

Do any other Canadians find it extremely discouraging that your chance of being accepted into vet school is limited by a choice of.. basically one school per region? I mean, atlantic residents - AVC, ontarians - OVC, francophones - Montreal, and the western residents - Western and UoC.

The thought of applying to a US school is great, but given the international student tuition/living costs, it seems pretty impossible. NOT FAIR!

Hi! I'm a Canadian living in Ontario, so I'll hopefully be going to OVC, which I'm pretty stoked about (I'm applying for the 2014 cycle...eek!)...But I completely get what you're saying - it's the fact that we're limited...Of course, we can apply to a US, UK, or Aussie school and pay the international fees, but we're NOT ALLOWED to apply to any vet schools in Canada outside of our regional school, unless we live there for an extended period of time. I work with a lot of vets from AVC who absolutely RAVE about it there, and I was so disappointed when I found out I couldn't apply there! But at the lower tuition cost, I'm not complaining...6K per year is not bad at all!

Good luck applying and have a blast at AVC! 🙂

 

[DVMhopeful]

This is not necessarily correct, at least according to this website from AVC: http://www.upei.ca/registrar/3_prof_degree_dvm .If your last attendance at high school was in Atlantic Canada, or the permanent home address of a parent is in Atlantic Canada then you are considered a resident, no matter what. If neither one of these conditions are true then you are correct. OVC's requirement is 12 months of time living in Ontario not in university at any time in your life, and not necessarily consecutive. Not sure about WCVM, but it sounds like it is similar to OVC.
Long story short, if you want to apply to more than one Canadian vet school, even at the same time, there are ways to do it.

Hahah easy on the nitpicking, I am aware of ALL of this....but in your crusade to prove me wrong you are missing my point. All I am saying is choices are more limited within Canada. YES you can take a year off and move to Ontario or out West and apply there as well as AVC (provided you graduated from an Atlantic highschool)...but if you want to get in after your 2nd, 3rd, or 4th year you have ONE choice.

Anyway, this is the last I am saying in this topic, I'm not looking for an argument on who has a harder time getting into schools: American's or Canadians...as I stated before, it's not easy for any of us.

 

[david594]

Hahah easy on the nitpicking, I am aware of ALL of this....but in your crusade to prove me wrong you are missing my point. All I am saying is choices are more limited within Canada. YES you can take a year off and move to Ontario or out West and apply there as well as AVC (provided you graduated from an Atlantic highschool)...but if you want to get in after your 2nd, 3rd, or 4th year you have ONE choice.

We could start to talk about how its more common in canada for people to begin veterinary school with less undergraduate coursework.... Or we could just concede to the fact that the Canadian and US veterinary education systems are different in some less obvious ways. 😉

Your options are definitely more limited, and I don't envy you guys for that. But man is your education cheap in comparison!

And congrats on getting into an awesome school. If only the international tuition wasn't so much, I would have loved to been up there with you guys in the fall.

 

[powerpuffgirl]

I'm just curious, david594, where did you get those stats that it's more common for Canadian students to begin vet school with less undergraduate coursework?

 

[david594]

I'm just curious, david594, where did you get those stats that it's more common for Canadian students to begin vet school with less undergraduate coursework?

A Canadian vet I worked with who went to AVC. As she explained it to me, you could basically finish up all of your requirements in 2 years and be ready to apply.

I don't have any stats to back it up though, and looking at the AAVMC data, it seems like I could be way off on this one. Hope I didn't offend any of ya.

 

[pierlucke]

Education fees are cheap, but when you work in canada. With a 100 k salary you pay 50k taxes. Our government think that school is a good investment in society...Problem we have at this time , Canadian work in UNited-States because of salaray advantages. Physiscian are the worst case I think. Private managment has its advantages to Gouvernment managment...

Anyway , I just wanted to say that you need to have an overview of both situations because saying tuition fees under 5000 k is an advantage. You will pay for it all your working life .

Sorry for my writing I'm a French Canadian

A+

 

[SocialStigma]

I'm an Ontarian applying for the 2015 cycle.

I'm only applying to OVC right now because well, I live in Ontario. To apply to US schools, I'd have to write the GRE on top of the MCAT (because OVC requires MCAT) which would be a huge (expensive) pain in the butt. So hopefully I get into OVC haha.

I don't envy the tuition costs of US schools at all but hate how there's only 4 vet schools in all of Canada.

 

[thnythe]

I don't envy the tuition costs of US schools at all but hate how there's only 4 vet schools in all of Canada.

There are 5 vet schools in all of Canada.

But I agree, it definitely sucks to be limited to where you can apply based on where you live.

 

[SocialStigma]

There are 5 vet schools in all of Canada.

But I agree, it definitely sucks to be limited to where you can apply based on where you live.

Ah, thank you, I always forget about UCVM 😳.

 

[New Foundland]

The reason we are able to keep tuition at about 5k a semester is bc our provincial government gives money to the school (at the AVC anyway) to subsidize tuition...but this means they can only pony up enough money for 11 people out of each atlantic province to go to vet school each year...not very many when you only have one place to apply to...

aha, if only it were around 11 people per province..

but no, the provinces don't each subsidize the same number of seats..

I believe NL gets 2 seats, if not 3 now..
So a NL resident (pop. 500k) would need to be a ~top-2 applicant in the province for any given year..
I look forward to applying for 2011 admission

 

[funylookinhorse]

hi guys, this is my first post! this is a great forum, lots of helpful information and im sure to be a frequent visitor since my brother introduced me.

my question is rather broad, and im hoping some of you can point me in the right direction or at least give me an idea of what im up against.

i'm an ontario resident having just moved back after graduating with my BScH. from a maritimes u. im thinking of applying to OVC and have done some research, read all of the stats and admissions info on their website however I would like to hear from the horses' mouths (you guys): how tough it really is to get in? so CGPA, Sci GPA, MCAT scores, hands on volunteer/work hours, etc etc. Anything would be of help, i think im in for a long journey !!!

Thank you! I greatly appreciate it 🙂