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Hello Y'all,

Due to personal, non-academic reasons, I do not feel that my GPA, MCAT, and ECs properly reflect my ability to succeed in medical school. I literally did not study for the MCAT, yet scored a 27. I just cram 30 minutes before my exams and got a 3.6 GPA. I have a few volunteering activities, which I nearly got kicked out of because they are so boring (the triviality of the tasks given to volunteers bothers be, I love the patient interaction of course). Anyways, I know that in med school if I study, I will be able to more than master the material.

So...what if I go the Caribbean and totally rock all the classes? How hard will it be to graduate a successful doctor and match into a respectable residency?

I honestly hate college with a passion, and just want to move out and begin med school where real medical training occurs (handing out check in forms in the ER is nothing nothing nothing nothing at all like being an ER doctor, obviously). I just can't wait to start med school, so I want to start at the Caribbean.

TL;DR: if you are a genius who would have done well in a US med school, and then you go to the Caribbean and graduate with flying colors, can you still be a successful doctor?

Thanks!
 
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You're not a genius. Just stop. A 27 without studying isn't talent, it's good undergraduate education and reading skills.

People have told you, over and over, that the Caribbean is not a good idea. With a 27 and a 3.6 you should go DO and become a successful practicing physician.

If you want to compare penis length, I scored a 31 while doing the bare minimum in a Kaplan course 5 months before and taking a practice test a week before. I studied a few hours for "tough" tests and received a 3.85. I am not special, nor am I a genius. You are not special, and the quicker you get that through your head the better off you will be.
 
To answer your question, yes it is possible, however, it is not probable.
 
You're not a genius for scoring a near-average score on the MCAT without studying, first off. Nor are you exceptional for your 3.6- I played the same game all through college, aside from my post-bacc courses, and would hardly describe myself as a "genius." A good test taker, perhaps, but that's about it. What it sounds like you are isn't a "genius," but rather, "lazy." You didn't bother studying before tests, didn't bother studying for your MCAT, and are thinking about going Carib rather than toughing it out for a US school. Given that past habits are excellent indicators of future behavior, here is my counter-equation for you:

Carib+Lazy=Soul-Crushing Debt with No Match to Show for It
 
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Everyone has tried to deter you from going Caribbean and you still seem determined to do it, OP. I say go for it.

Your MD will look good when you're applying for ER Scribe jobs after failing to match for the third time.
 
ratiocinate said:
Hello Y'all,

Due to personal, non-academic reasons, I do not feel that my GPA, MCAT, and ECs properly reflect my ability to succeed in medical school. I literally did not study for the MCAT, yet scored a 27. I just cram 30 minutes before my exams and got a 3.6 GPA. I have a few volunteering activities, which I nearly got kicked out of because they are so boring (the triviality of the tasks given to volunteers bothers be, I love the patient interaction of course). Anyways, I know that in med school if I study, I will be able to more than master the material.

So...what if I go the Caribbean and totally rock all the classes? How hard will it be to graduate a successful doctor and match into a respectable residency?

I honestly hate college with a passion, and just want to move out and begin med school where real medical training occurs (handing out check in forms in the ER is nothing nothing nothing nothing at all like being an ER doctor, obviously). I just can't wait to start med school, so I want to start at the Caribbean.

TL;DR: if you are a genius who would have done well in a US med school, and then you go to the Caribbean and graduate with flying colors, can you still be a successful doctor?

Thanks!
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I'm less concerned with your MCAT/GPA combo for any medical school endeavor (let alone the Caribbean schools) than I am with your attitude. Medical school is extremely boring at times. You have often have to treat the most asinine topics that you have zero interest in as something that is worthy of studying and remembering. This is even moreso the case when it comes to Step 1 studying if you're trying to get 250+ (which you want, if you want to have a decent chance of matching from the Caribbean). Your admitted academic history doesn't speak well of you being able to do this at all. You need to reevaluate your study attitudes and your ego before you enter the Caribbean or any other medical school. I will say, that your instant gratification mentality of "I want medical school now. I'm smarter than the rest of the people going down there. I won't fail out" is what the Caribbean business model is built on. Just like in the casino, everyone thinks they're going to be a winner, but in reality, the odds are not in your favor.
 
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Damn guys, didn't need the backlash for the use of the word "genius".

All I'm asking is, if I do really well in the Caribbean, how hard is it to get a residency? Its not like I spent 6 years in undergrad to get a 3.0 GPA and 22 MCAT...so is it really that unlikely for me to get a residency after?
 
The physicians I have shadowed have all uniformly told me that medical school is less about being a genius and more about
putting in the work and trudging through the good, the bad, and yes, the boring.
Also, scoring 27 without studying is not being a genius. That's called scoring badly.

It's not your use of the word genius that is as off putting as it is your arrogant attitude.
 
Did you not learn anything from that other thread of yours? Absolutely do not go Carribean. Inability to delay gratification is not looked at positively by many PDs.
 
ratiocinate said:
Damn guys, didn't need the backlash for the use of the word "genius".

All I'm asking is, if I do really well in the Caribbean, how hard is it to get a residency? Its not like I spent 6 years in undergrad to get a 3.0 GPA and 22 MCAT...so is it really that unlikely for me to get a residency after?
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What makes you think your attitude will change in the Caribbean. It's not really a matter of intelligence. You clearly have not demonstrated the drive necessary to succeed at even getting ready to apply to med school at all much less the significantly more difficult work involved with going though med school.
 
Taking the MCAT without studying, not taking college seriously (especially if you have medicine in mind), and taking on commitments that are too "boring" to be worth your time don't make you a genius. All of these things make you a *****.
 
You're suffering the all-too-common "Scrubs" or "Grey's Anatomy" delusion typical of inexperienced pre-meds. You've somehow made it up in your mind that your motivational issues will be solved once you start taking classes that really matter, or start working as a practicing physician. This is simply not the case.

If you have spent any real time around med students OR shadowing physicians, you'd know that a large part of what they do is boring, mundane, monotonous and tedious.

To answer your question about residency: it will be extremely difficult by the time you graduate. They're cutting the number of residency slots available to IMGs by a very significant amount soon, so it will be that much more competitive.
 
ratiocinate said:
Damn guys, didn't need the backlash for the use of the word "genius".

All I'm asking is, if I do really well in the Caribbean, how hard is it to get a residency? Its not like I spent 6 years in undergrad to get a 3.0 GPA and 22 MCAT...so is it really that unlikely for me to get a residency after?
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No one went. No one knows directly. No one cares. Don't go.
 
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ratiocinate said:
Damn guys, didn't need the backlash for the use of the word "genius".

All I'm asking is, if I do really well in the Caribbean, how hard is it to get a residency? Its not like I spent 6 years in undergrad to get a 3.0 GPA and 22 MCAT...so is it really that unlikely for me to get a residency after?
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No because your lazy attitude isn't going to magically fix itself when you enroll in medical school. Good luck taking block exams with 30 minutes of cramming or STEP/shelf exams without studying.
 
In my experience the people that go to the Caribbean with the mentality you have are the ones who end up failing out, just saying. There is enough info regarding prospects of Carib schools out there for you to answer any other questions you have about your potential future.
 
Bro, I got a 37 on my first practice test without studying, and I am not a genius. You need a reality check over there.
 
Well, you're too prone to magic thinking, lack insight and self-awareness, are incapable of understand numerical data presented directly to you, and are highly resistant to accepting really good advice. You're heading rapidly into troll territory.

Are you looking for affirmation to go to the Caribbean? Fine, go. I support your decision. Happy now?

So...what if I go the Caribbean and totally rock all the classes? How hard will it be to graduate a successful doctor and match into a respectable residency?

I honestly hate college with a passion, and just want to move out and begin med school where real medical training occurs (handing out check in forms in the ER is nothing nothing nothing nothing at all like being an ER doctor, obviously). I just can't wait to start med school, so I want to start at the Caribbean.

TL;DR: if you are a genius who would have done well in a US med school, and then you go to the Caribbean and graduate with flying colors, can you still be a successful doctor?

Thanks![/QUOTE]
 
He's back !! Is this the guy who has a doc father who thinks it doesn't matter if you go Caribbean? Anyway genius your not. You don't even display good judgement.
 
ratiocinate said:
Hello Y'all,

Due to personal, non-academic reasons, I do not feel that my GPA, MCAT, and ECs properly reflect my ability to succeed in medical school. I literally did not study for the MCAT, yet scored a 27. I just cram 30 minutes before my exams and got a 3.6 GPA. I have a few volunteering activities, which I nearly got kicked out of because they are so boring (the triviality of the tasks given to volunteers bothers be, I love the patient interaction of course). Anyways, I know that in med school if I study, I will be able to more than master the material.

So...what if I go the Caribbean and totally rock all the classes? How hard will it be to graduate a successful doctor and match into a respectable residency?

I honestly hate college with a passion, and just want to move out and begin med school where real medical training occurs (handing out check in forms in the ER is nothing nothing nothing nothing at all like being an ER doctor, obviously). I just can't wait to start med school, so I want to start at the Caribbean.

TL;DR: if you are a genius who would have done well in a US med school, and then you go to the Caribbean and graduate with flying colors, can you still be a successful doctor?

Thanks!
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ratiocinate said:
Hello Y'all,

Due to personal, non-academic reasons, I do not feel that my GPA, MCAT, and ECs properly reflect my ability to succeed in medical school. I literally did not study for the MCAT, yet scored a 27. I just cram 30 minutes before my exams and got a 3.6 GPA. I have a few volunteering activities, which I nearly got kicked out of because they are so boring (the triviality of the tasks given to volunteers bothers be, I love the patient interaction of course). Anyways, I know that in med school if I study, I will be able to more than master the material.
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Really, what do you want?

Please go to the Caribbean and let us know how it goes! I'm sure you will do just great!
 
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Here's what a genius looks like chief.
My old college roommate.
Now a Physics PhD studying the mysteries of the universe.
Reads book chapter once. Knows it all.
Knocks out practice problems in 1/4 the time it takes me, and I'm no slouch. Gets every one right, doing 1/2 the math in his head and rarely referencing the chapter.
Never looks at the material again.
Takes an hour long test, finishes first by 30 minutes.
Perfect score every time.
Sound familiar? It shouldn't. It's not you.
 
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ratiocinate said:
Aww! Thanks 🙂
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Sure, no problem. Now that you got your answer, please, please quit asking the same question over and over.

Instead, go figure out which lucky Caribbean school gets to have you as a matriculating student!
 
IlDestriero said:
Here's what a genius looks like chief.
My old college roommate.
Now a Physics PhD studying the mysteries of the universe.
Reads book chapter once. Knows it all.
Knocks out practice problems in 1/4 the time it takes me, and I'm no slouch. Gets every one right, doing 1/2 the math in his head and rarely referencing the chapter.
Never looks at the material again.
Takes an hour long test, finishes first by 30 minutes.
Perfect score every time.
Sound familiar? It shouldn't. It's not you.
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And I am so glad that you dont have to be a genius to be a physician.... because I would def not make it lol
 
IlDestriero said:
Here's what a genius looks like chief.
My old college roommate.
Now a Physics PhD studying the mysteries of the universe.
Reads book chapter once. Knows it all.
Knocks out practice problems in 1/4 the time it takes me, and I'm no slouch. Gets every one right, doing 1/2 the math in his head and rarely referencing the chapter.
Never looks at the material again.
Takes an hour long test, finishes first by 30 minutes.
Perfect score every time.
Sound familiar? It shouldn't. It's not you.
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Ummm...sounds a lot like me...but I don't want to beat the dead horse. No Caribbean. Ok. /endthread
 
ratiocinate said:
Ummm...sounds a lot like me...but I don't want to beat the dead horse. No Caribbean. Ok. /endthread
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30 minutes of studying for a 3.6? Wooooooow and I'm sure you're at U Chicago to boot. Definitely go Caribbean, US schools won't recognize your giftedness because all they get are the numbers, but someone as smart as you (27 with no studying! That's so good it took me 3 times to get a 26) will still end up at residency at Johns Hopkins or something. You will just have to remember not to piss off your professors by correcting them in class a lot and stuff, since you will need their letters to complement your like probably top 1% Step 1s if you study. @Psai is at a Carib school I think, and he can probably give you some good advice because you're an idiot.
 
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Nobody likes a pretentious student with an outsized ego. If you're a genius, why did you even consider making this thread? You practically contradicted yourself with this terrible thread.

In other words: What @efle said
 
If I were you OP, I would try to be more humble and accept that laziness will not get you anywhere. It seems like you have potential and a great opportunity to do better. You are just threading water and doing bare minimum. If you think that you're life is going to be so easy when you start Caribbean school, wait until you try to get into residency.
 
ComputerGuy365 said:
Nobody likes a pretentious student with an outsized ego. If you're a genius, why did you even consider making this thread? You practically contradicted yourself with this terrible thread.
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You just don't understand. He's a genius, he just doesn't care enough about anything to show it. He'll study when he gets to sciencey stuff he actually enjoys as you can see with how he studied for the MCAT....ohwait
 
efle said:
You just don't understand. He's a genius, he just doesn't care enough about anything to show it. He'll study when he gets to sciencey stuff he actually enjoys as you can see with how he studied for the MCAT....ohwait
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I SEE.
 
NervousWreck6 said:
If I were you OP, I would try to be more humble and accept that laziness will not get you anywhere. It seems like you have potential and a great opportunity to do better. You are just threading water and doing bare minimum. If you think that you're life is going to be so easy when you start Caribbean school, wait until you try to get into residency.
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I second this.
 
If you are really such a genius, then isn't a 27 fairly disappointing?

A genius should be able to get 14-15 on the Verbal (you don't need any background knowledge to do well - pure critical analysis skills).

So that means to get a 27, you need to get around 7 on the science sections. A true genius who has taken the prereqs (even with a faint recollection of them) should be able to get more than a 7 just from intuition alone...
 
Don't worry guys I'm a genius as well. In high school, I got an A in freshman chemistry without studying. I must be a genius.

OP, I would just suggest you take this a little more seriously because you will never succeed by being lazy. Keep your ego down as well.
 
ratiocinate said:
Ummm...sounds a lot like me...but I don't want to beat the dead horse. No Caribbean. Ok. /endthread
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Obvious troll is obvious.


Hes going to make another thread tomorrow asking the same thing.

This whole "I"m a genius because I made a 27 without studying" thing is pretty hilarious though and new.


@OP

I have a friend who made a 33 on his MCAT without studying at all. After studying he made a 42.

He is about 1.5 billion times more humble than you are.
 
You guys are missing the point of this thread. I should've used a better word than "genius".

My question was this: if I am going to the Caribbean because I didn't put in my full effort as opposed to having those stats with max effort, how difficult would a Caribbean success be? Simple question. Didn't mean for the attitude. Honestly I LOL'd after re-reading my initial post on this thread. It came across in a way I didn't intend.
 
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