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Yes, you were here for the first week of interviews, going by your MDApps profile. The adcomm met on the 18th, so you should be hearing something soon. Good luck. 🙂Just wondering who else out there is hoping for a call from CCLCM. From the interview list, it doesn't look like there are that many of us. So this thread may get lost before it even gets started... I think I may have been at their first day of interviews, but I've been told I probably won't hear until next week some time. What did everyone else think who has visited the school??? CCLCM is pretty much at the top of my list.
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Don't stress yourself out. It probably won't affect your chances very much, if it all. There are still open seats in January. I interviewed in January two years ago and was accepted without being on hold first.
Like I told the other person, if you get invited for a January interview, you can still be accepted. At leat one of my classmates was a February interviewee even.
The difference between lectures and seminars depends on the seminar leader. Some seminar leaders are very interactive, have us break up into small groups, pimp us, have us come up and write stuff on the board, etc. Other seminar leaders aren't quite with the program, and their seminars basically are lectures. We aren't supposed to say that L-word here, though. 😉
I think that medical school in general is pretty intense, though that probably comes out in different ways at different schools. No matter where you end up, there is a ton of info you will have to learn in a relatively short period of time, and there's no easy shortcut for learning it all, unfortunately. You are right that this program does seem to attract a lot of older students--well, both Case programs are like that. But most of the older students don't have PhDs, and it's not like the people with PhDs know everything about everything. Of course, they're very knowledgeable about their PhD subject, but they don't know any more than anyone else does about other things outside of their field. I guess what I'm trying to say is, you don't need a PhD, or even an MS, to make it through this program. Having a grad degree won't instantly make you into some kind of med student superstar. As for the eval system, it takes some getting used to, and not everyone will like it. That's perfectly understandable. But we all have to pick our poison. When I was in your shoes, the thought of spending two years having to memorize everything and getting tested every couple of weeks was a lot more intimidating to me than the CCLCM eval system. 😛
I don't think so, but I'm not sure. If they do, they don't tell people where they are on the list. Adcomm meetings are every two weeks, so how long you have to wait depends on when you interviewed. The last meeting was the 18th and the next one is on Thursday (the 1st). If you get accepted, Dean Franco will call you the week after the meeting when your file got discussed.
Good luck to you. 🙂
I don't think any of us are bored in that sense.
I like your philosophy about wanting to be with people who are smarter than you are, and I feel the same way for the same reason. I'm glad you had a good interview day. I don't think that the students here are intimidating either, or at least we don't try to be. 😳
I don't think you should assume the news will be bad, because I know Dean Franco has been really busy. The second years are doing the NMS (neuromusculoskeletal) block right now, and she is one of our instructors. (She's a psychiatrist.) This week she gave two seminars for us. She also talks to interviewees on every interview day and sees patients. Plus she's our Dean of Students along with being Dean of Admissions, so she has those responsibilities as well. I wouldn't be surprised if she hasn't had a chance to make calls yet. I know it sucks to wait, but hang in there, and good luck. 🙂
About the car: it depends on who you ask. Most people do have cars and would say that it is necessary to have one. But there are two people in my class who don't have a car, and they seem fine. One walks or takes the bus and is definitely not planning to get a car even for third year. The other person with no car also walks or gets a ride with another student, and I don't know if that person will get a car for third year or not. So I guess I'd say, no, it's not an absolute necessity, but most people do have cars. If you don't have one, you will have to choose where you live much more carefully versus people who have cars.
My understanding is that most people get put on hold post-interview. Hold is not a rejection or a waitlist. It just means that they didn't make a definitive decision on you yet and they will reconsider your app in March after they finish all the interviews. So if you end up being on the waitlist or rejected, you usually wouldn't find that out until the spring. Some people do get accepted right away, and in past years Dean Franco has called them by phone to let them know. I'm not absolutely positive that she's doing that this year, but I'll try to find out for you.
Nov. 5, from what I've heard.
Yes, the CCLCM committee met today. Those of you who interviewed today (November 1) or earlier were reviewed. Good luck, everyone. 🙂
No, they send letters in the mail, never emails, and it takes a week or two after the CCLCM adcomm meets because Case has to approve CCLCM's decisions. After they hear back from Case, Dean Franco will call the accepted people and everyone who was reviewed will get a letter in the mail.
They're quasi-independent, in that CCLCM has its own adcomm and sends out its own invites and acceptances separately from the UP. But everything CCLCM does is coordinated with Case. We are part of Case, and they approve all of the CCLCM decisions. Dean Franco is on the UP adcomm also.
No, the two programs have separate acceptances, so you can be accepted to one or the other or both. I was accepted to both programs two years ago, and so were lots of other people.
Right. If they both accept you, they will even coordinate the second looks back-to-back for you, so you can revisit both programs over one weekend to help you decide.
Yes, all classes here have required attendance. We don't really have lectures per se though like what they have at other schools.
It's about 1/4 PBL and 1/2 seminar, with the rest being clinical. The seminars are often done with the entire class of 32, which isn't small group by our standards, though I suppose it would be for most med schools. 😛
Right. We have no packets here, no videoed lectures you can watch on line, etc. There is a lot of group learning. If you are the kind of person who likes to study independently, you won't like this program.
I did both. I interviewed at Case and CCF two years ago and spent two nights at the Intercontinental Suites Hotel (go to the SUITES, it's a lot cheaper than the regular Intercontinental) and one night with a student. If you're going to both interviews, see if you can stay with a UP student and a CCLCM student so that you can pick both people's brains. Or spend one night in a hotel, one with a student. Good luck!
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