Chatty after 40mg Etomidate??

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dchristismi

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I don't work in a trauma center, and as a result, we see very, very little penetrating trauma. Unless it arrives by homeboy ambulance, such as this dude did. (Along with his buddy, who had also been stabbed in the back.) Both dudes managed to sustain hemo-pneumos, although the buddy's was minimal and managed with obs only. As far as their decision to sit at home for a couple of hours prior to presenting, well, that's a comment for the "what I learn from my patients thread...

Anyway, his VS are fairly stable (p 105, BP 120/70), he's cooperative and polite, admits to some Etoh earlier, occasional vices include THC and xanax bars. He's got a large hemopneumothorax, so I consent him for thoracostomy, and since he's fairly stable, I elect to sedate him for it.

40mg of Etomidate and 150-200 mcg of fentanyl later, he's still chatting away, cracking jokes and telling me he thinks it's pretty crazy that I'm feeling up his lung. I numbed him up well and did it mostly under local, but have never seen anyone who was merely relaxed under that much etom. Thankfully, he was pretty pleasant about it, but it was a first.

And no, the line wasn't infiltrated and he could feel the fentanyl when it hit.
Crazy.
 
Our somewhat moderating spyderdoc posted many years ago about a teenage patient with a dislocation or fracture that took heroic amounts of etomidate without any appreciable sedation, maintain not just respiration, but consciousness and a clear sensorium. (If it wasn't spyderdoc, it was definitely then Sessamoid - either one of the two; now I'm leaning towards Sess.)
 
Had a 12 year old girl with a dislocation several months ago who had NO effect to a total of 16 mg of etomidate. Took 160 mg of propofol to get her out so I could put her elbow back in.

Rib blocks are your friend for chest tubes. No requirement to sedate them.
 
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