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berriesandcream said:
well, there were an assortment of other items as well (cinnamon toast crunch, bread, pita bread, etc etc) but considering I haven't been to the grocery store in 5 weeks, I dropped a 100 bucks 🙁

ohhhh. how....nice :barf: plans to go back any time soon? Doesn't seem like you're too much of a CA fan :laugh:
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Yes...At least that and walking everywhere is making me lose weight :laugh:


Going back this friday night. Hell yea 5 day weekend.

If i had a car here and a little more cash things would be golden
 
CodeBlu said:
I don't even know. I have nothing against religion in principle. But, I hate religion that is FORCED upon others. No, I don't want your effin books, or your ministry. I've found my ministry... It's Grey Goose/KetelOne/Ciroc.

I used to be seriously religious... I was an altar boy. Yeah... that's right...

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Yeah, there are a lot of strong minded adventists. and the preference for adventists baffles me. I know people who got in with like a 25 MCAT. no joke.
 
BMEN said:
Yes...At least that and walking everywhere is making me lose weight :laugh:


Going back this friday night. Hell yea 5 day weekend.

If i had a car here and a little more cash things would be golden
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Your family is all over there?

Speaking of Friday night-
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyXNRrsk4A[/YOUTUBE]
 
berriesandcream said:
Yeah, there are a lot of strong minded adventists. and the preference for adventists baffles me. I know people who got in with like a 25 MCAT. no joke.
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I had an adventist girl tell me that she couldn't date me, because she doesn't believe in dancing and partying.

Seriously... I couldn't live like that.

People that get 25 on the MCAT are not stupid. I have a friend who got a 25... he's a URM... so he managed to get into an MD school. He rocked the USMLE though. And just matched to Gas.

How does a 25 MCAT = Anesthesiology? It's not supposed to in a neurotic pre-meds mind. Guess what... once you get in... no one cares about the MCAT.

Level playing field. Everyone is equal. The guy with a 40.. might end up failing histo, and you with a 29 will rock M1 and M2 with honors and get AOA. It is what it is. C'est la f#Cking vie.
 
CodeBlu said:
I had an adventist girl tell me that she couldn't date me, because she doesn't believe in dancing and partying.

Seriously... I couldn't live like that.

People that get 25 on the MCAT are not stupid. I have a friend who got a 25... he's a URM... so he managed to get into an MD school. He rocked the USMLE though. And just matched to Gas.

How does a 25 MCAT = Anesthesiology? It's not supposed to in a neurotic pre-meds mind. Guess what... once you get in... no one cares about the MCAT.

Level playing field. Everyone is equal. The guy with a 40.. might end up failing histo, and you with a 29 will rock M1 and M2 with honors and get AOA. It is what it is. C'est la f#Cking vie.
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Yes, what the adventist girl told you is true...they don't believe in dancing because they believe it can lead to sex. go figure.

And, that was not my intention to come off that way. My point was to say that she got in through an SDA favor; she got accepted with a 25 by simply stating she's adventist, but a non-adventist with a 25 would be promptly rejected.

Also, MCAT does not determine intelligence. I thought I was pretty okay, and ended up with a 24. Trust me, no hate from me on people with 24s and 25s, but spiteful (mostly at AAMC) that I have to retake 😳
 
berriesandcream said:
Yes, what the adventist girl told you is true...they don't believe in dancing because they believe it can lead to sex. go figure.

And, that was not my intention to come off that way. My point was to say that she got in through an SDA favor; she got accepted with a 25 by simply stating she's adventist, but a non-adventist with a 25 would be promptly rejected.

Also, MCAT does not determine intelligence. I thought I was pretty okay, and ended up with a 24. Trust me, no hate from me on people with 24s and 25s, but spiteful (mostly at AAMC) that I have to retake 😳
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Once you figure out the MCAT... the day you get the score you want... is like heaven on earth. Tell that to a SDA!

Dancing leads to sex?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oKUTOLSeMM[/YOUTUBE]

I wanna learn how to ballroom. That **** is hot!

Medical school admissions have literally been ruined over the last 10-15 years.

If I was an adcom... I'd do a much better job of designing an admissions process... and I would also assist in the implementation of a super based curriculum. Wanna hear my thoughts?
 
CodeBlu said:
Once you figure out the MCAT... the day you get the score you want... is like heaven on earth. Tell that to a SDA!

Dancing leads to sex?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oKUTOLSeMM[/YOUTUBE]

I wanna learn how to ballroom. That **** is hot!

Medical school admissions have literally been ruined over the last 10-15 years.

If I was an adcom... I'd do a much better job of designing an admissions process... and I would also assist in the implementation of a super based curriculum. Wanna hear my thoughts?
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go ahead
 
CodeBlu said:
Once you figure out the MCAT... the day you get the score you want... is like heaven on earth. Tell that to a SDA!

Dancing leads to sex?

[YOUTUBE]6oKUTOLSeMM[/YOUTUBE]

I wanna learn how to ballroom. That **** is hot!

Medical school admissions have literally been ruined over the last 10-15 years.

If I was an adcom... I'd do a much better job of designing an admissions process... and I would also assist in the implementation of a super based curriculum. Wanna hear my thoughts?
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Man, CB, hopefully I'll have that heaven on earth feeling sometime late september:xf:

CB, little did you know, you just posted a video about my number 1, most favorite movie in the whole wide world.
Saw it when I was a little girl, and I was blown away by how sexy (and cute!) it all was :laugh:

Medical school admissions are very screwed up. It's become more and more random each year.

okay, CB, let's hear your thoughts.
 
The ideal admissions process...

-Keep AMCAS the same as it is now.
-Have the student complete pre-reqs in biology, chem, physics, organic I, cell biology/physiology, biochemistry and statistics.
-They will write the MCAT, but it will not be weighed heavily in the admissions decision. More of a low screen (7s in each section with a minimum composite of 25)
-Great emphasis placed on the LORs and the academic record overall. People with GPAs less than 3.3 without a steep upward trend will be recommended to complete a post-bacc (informal or formal) to prove they can handle the curriculum.
-Will have an admissions tracker like UMich (Best thing ever!) Will be completely transparent with the process.
-After applicants submit their primary AMCAS... a knowledge/problem solving based test on the pre-reqs... but that is unlike the MCAT will be presented to them to complete at a prometric testing center. I will call it the CTBT.

CTBT = Critical Thinking Based Test
About the CTBT, and why it is better.

First... why it is better. The MCAT claims to test critical thinking ability. But in reality, with enough practice you can "beat" the test. Doesn't mean you're prepared for medical school necessarily. The goal of the CTBT is to see if you can think on your feet, and integrate the knowledge you have, with brand new facts. And to form an argument for and against the material presented.

-Will resemble the current biological sciences of the MCAT with a bit of a twist. 2 sections, one on psychological principles (AKA a personality test), other will be a biochem/physiology/cell bio mash up.
-Tests some factual based knowledge.
-Most of the emphasis however is on taking information and being able to present it back to the examiner.

Example. Passage dealing with cystic fibrosis, describes etiology, molecular and genetic basis, pathology, treatment, relevant basic anatomy. Then shows a research article challenging previously accepted principles on cystic fibrosis. The candidate would have to argue for and against the new research much like the MCAT WS asks you to formulate a thesis, antithesis, synthesis.

-There will be 4 such passages that incorporate all aspects of the pre-med curriculum and the thinking required to succeed in medicine.
-There will be 20 discrete questions that determine your ability to memorize random info. But this will be clearly outlined in a syllabus.
-20 minutes for each passage, and 1 minute for each of the discretes...100 minutes total.
-Then a short 30 question psychological assessment to determine personality type. Can't have too many INTJs and no ENFJs in one class.

This test would cost the applicants whatever it costs the school to implement it and design the questions.

Applicants who meet the minimum academic criteria, and score above the 70-80th percentile on the CTBT will be given first preference for interviews after a closer examination of their file/LORs. Then the rest if space is available.

-Final step in the admissions process is the interview which will consist of an MMI and a 30 minute 1-on-1 faculty member interview. MMI for 90 minutes. With an optional 30 minute tour. And a 30 minute intro. This gives our interview day a total of 3 hours without lunch.

And that's how I'd do proper medical school admissions.
 
CB:I like the approach. The issue is would there really be a need for the MCAT? Of perhaps something like a modified MCAT. Just saying. The MCAT is an expensive devil, and if it ends up weighing less, those 200 so dollars are kinda worthless
 
BMEN said:
CB:I like the approach. The issue is would there really be a need for the MCAT? Of perhaps something like a modified MCAT. Just saying. The MCAT is an expensive devil, and if it ends up weighing less, those 200 so dollars are kinda worthless
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Right... but my school isn't the ONLY school.

I don't expect everyone to immediately adopt this approach. It takes time to institute change.

Now... anyone wanna hear about the ideal meds curriculum I think is important in today's world?
 
CodeBlu said:
Right... but my school isn't the ONLY school.

I don't expect everyone to immediately adopt this approach. It takes time to institute change.

Now... anyone wanna hear about the ideal meds curriculum I think is important in today's world?
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Go ahead.


Also in an ideal world, I think entrance exams should be like Ph.D qualifying exams. You have an oral exam and are asked question based on the pre-req knowledge and some further application(just like a qualifying exam). Then its a pass or fail.

Granted this lacks man power and time benefits
 
First... BMEN you're approaching 1k... this is a big moment. Glad to be sharing it with you.

Now... ideal medical school curriculum from what I have gathered/read/experienced/heard from friends...

CodeBlu School of Medicine Curriculum

M1
-First class is Molecular and Cellular Physiology. You can't teach someone medicine in today's modern world unless they understand genetics, receptor physiology, drug-receptor interactions. Most medical schools start from the macroscopic (gross anatomy) and then move microscopically. Here we lose the whole approach to treating our patient entirely, cura personalis if I may.

-Histology/Embryology fundamentals next. On normal looking tissues, now that we fully understand the cell biology/physiology behind it all.

-Once you know embryology... anatomy becomes a piece of cake. That's when we start a gross anatomy lab. This would be at the end of 1st semester, and carry through to second semester.

-Then biochemistry would be taught, with a clinical application. Describing uses of clinical chemistry, aka what kind of machines we use, what we look for in diagnostic tests. Clearly there will be a week spent on reviewing the basics of transcription,translation etc.

-Now that we have anatomy, biochem, and histology. We can start doing physiology for the rest of the year. Cover all the major systems and special senses like eyes and ear, with relationships drawn back to previously learned concepts.

-Finally, to end M1 we finish with a food and nutrition course. Med students will spend 2 weeks learning how to cook healthy, and to instruct their patients on healthy lifestyle habits.

Clinical Curriculum of M1

-Fundamentals of patient interviewing from the 1st week of school. Have students talk to standardized patients and to learn the schema of physical diagnosis using inspection, palpation, percussion, auscultation (IPPA)

-Focus on all the NORMAL stuff first. How you gonna tell what's abnormal if you don't know what normal is?

-Have an OSCE at the end of first year, pass/fail. Be able to take a history, and perform basic exams like a cranial nerve exam, abdominal exam, and a MSK screening exam.

-All the while, using the patient centered approach. Remembering the microscopic, but also keeping in mind the macroscopic. Why is that lab value the way it is? Environmental stresses, triggers, genetic factors considered as well. (House MD styles).

And that's M1 in a LONG nutshell.

(I don't know why I am in the mood to discuss this. But I really want to be a part of medical education when I'm done with school. I love teaching.)
 
I like the structure.

The biochemistry example reminds me of a biotech class/ one of my lab courses.

Also with the way the American diet is , I like the food and nutrition class idea. Benefits yhe students and the patient
 
I don't know about the personality type assessment. Its very possible for people to manipulate those kind of tests to what they think Adcoms would like.
 
SilentSoldier said:
I don't know about the personality type assessment. Its very possible for people to manipulate those kind of tests to what they think Adcoms would like.
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Not necessarily. Not when the test is structured such that it's ambiguous and you have to answer your gut reaction.

We could circumvent this personality portion of the CTBT until the interview perhaps. Make it one of the MMI stations.
 
BMEN said:
I like the structure.

The biochemistry example reminds me of a biotech class/ one of my lab courses.

Also with the way the American diet is , I like the food and nutrition class idea. Benefits yhe students and the patient
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Thoughts on me making a thread in pre-allo... and continuing with M2 and seeing what other people think too?
 
CodeBlu said:
Thoughts on me making a thread in pre-allo... and continuing with M2 and seeing what other people think too?
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Maybe. Try it out when its not so dead.


A cool thou now. Whoo . More interviews plz
 
You aren't alone! I'm here! I got home and took a very long, very hot shower. I feel much better.


And now I will stop complaining about the maggots and talk about other things. 😀
 
Hey, do you think we can spam the thread to 20,000 tonight? That's 70 posts...anyone feeling ambitious?
 
CodeBlu said:
Imagine how annoying that would get on here. I don't know if my speakers could handle it.

Did you read the codeblu school of medicine stuff?
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I did! 😀 It was a little tl;dr for me at the moment (being that it's 2:30am) but I will definitely read and comment tomorrow morning.

CB, do you ever sleep? Seriously...it's 5:30 in Michigan!! What are you doing awake? Not that I'm complaining. 😀
 
TheMightySmiter said:
I did! 😀 It was a little tl;dr for me at the moment (being that it's 2:30am) but I will definitely read and comment tomorrow morning.

CB, do you ever sleep? Seriously...it's 5:30 in Michigan!! What are you doing awake? Not that I'm complaining. 😀
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I don't really sleep I guess... but when I sleep. MAAAAN do I sleep.
 
I want to get a periodic table shower curtain for my apartment that I will be getting when I hopefully get an acceptance to medical school.


NERDS FOR THE WIN!
 
No, I never watched BBT. 🙁 I don't watch much TV and when I do it's almost always crime shows or Sex and the City.


And I love the periodic table shower curtain! :laugh: Do you ever go to ThinkGeek and drool over their merch?
 
I wish I could get a massage right now.

A deep tissue massage to rid my traps and rhomboids of these pesky knots would be amazing.

I need someone to make it hurt, if you know what I mean TMS... :laugh:
 
CodeBlu said:
I wish I could get a massage right now.

A deep tissue massage to rid my traps and rhomboids of these pesky knots would be amazing.

I need someone to make it hurt, if you know what I mean TMS... :laugh:
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Well, TWSS of course. 😀


I have never had a massage. I get kind of uncomfortable and tense when people touch me, lol.
 
TheMightySmiter said:
Time for some late-night FOOD PORN! Mmmm sesame chicken. 😍

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LOVE SESAME CHICKEN... sans green onions though!

TheMightySmiter said:
Well, TWSS of course. 😀
I have never had a massage. I get kind of uncomfortable and tense when people touch me, lol.
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Really? Have you always been that way?

I rather enjoy people touching me... as you can imagine.... he he
 
I could do without the green onions as well. 😀 I like onions cooked, but not so much raw. They do make the picture look prettier, though.


And yeah, I've always been that way. I guess it's because my family was never very touchy-feely growing up.


Yes, I'm not surprised you like people touching you. 😀 I bet you ask for a happy ending every time. 😉
 
TheMightySmiter said:
I could do without the green onions as well. 😀 I like onions cooked, but not so much raw. They do make the picture look prettier, though.


And yeah, I've always been that way. I guess it's because my family was never very touchy-feely growing up.


Yes, I'm not surprised you like people touching you. 😀 I bet you ask for a happy ending every time. 😉
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I can take care of my own happy endings... I do it better anyways!

But I'm serious... massage therapy is king.
 
Okay, since you got top, you should let me have 20,000. 😀


But I"m a generous person, so if it means a lot to you, you can have it.
 
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