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Starting today. Molecular Biology and 2 Engineering classes (8 credits). Working 12 hrs nights, 60 hours a week. It will be tough.
Wish me luck.
Puissiez-vous trouver la force
Starting today. Molecular Biology and 2 Engineering classes (8 credits). Working 12 hrs nights, 60 hours a week. It will be tough.
Wish me luck.
I don't know what you saying but I got the force part.Puissiez-vous trouver la force
Lol. Ok. Thanks!May you find strength - In french of course
So I've been accepted to Pitt and will start class there in the fall. However, not all of the prereqs I need to take will be offered on weekends/at night. I'm taking classes at a community college currently, and they offer all the prereqs I need on weekends/at night. Plus it's $100 a credit vs $750 a credit and I'm sorely tempted to just stay at my CC instead of adding 15k more in loans at Pitt ... Ugh. So many decisions to make.
I've done the research and am aware that schools accept CC credits and aren't super preferential on CC vs 4 years (at least for the schools I plan on applying to), and that as long as I ace my MCAT I should be ok... But UGH. I'm still anxious regarding my decision.
Welcome aboard!Originally was trying to go for Class of 2021, but I think I have to delay my application another year. Glad to meet some other future Class of 2022 classmates!
I don't think it's always true that adcoms "pick on nontrads who work full time for not carrying a full load." Frankly, I disregarded a lot of Goro advice and had a great cycle. I was probably similar to @AnotherLawyer in that I had a solid undergrad GPA already, in a science major; I excelled in law school; and I juggled my one-course-at-a-time in conjunction with other really significant responsibilities at work and at home. It all depends on how you show that you are capable of handling a heavy workload--for some people that is a lot of credits at once; for others it might be something different.Wow that's harsh that adcoms pick on non trad's who work full time for not carrying a full load? What I wouldn't give to be some snot nosed kid with zero responsibilities other than cranking out GPA, lol. I guess its a good thing I'm taking a full load and working full time
I won't disregard anything @Goro says. Goro knows more about med school admission and how adcoms think than you will ever know, because he/she is an adcom, you're not.I don't think it's always true that adcoms "pick on nontrads who work full time for not carrying a full load." Frankly, I disregarded a lot of Goro advice and had a great cycle. I was probably similar to @AnotherLawyer in that I had a solid undergrad GPA already, in a science major; I excelled in law school; and I juggled my one-course-at-a-time in conjunction with other really significant responsibilities at work and at home. It all depends on how you show that you are capable of handling a heavy workload--for some people that is a lot of credits at once; for others it might be something different.
I planned out everything the other night during my forensic psyc class and I cried a little on the inside. Summer/fall of 2016 and spring/summer of 2017 will be rough. as of now goal is c/o2022.....I'm all of a sudden tired
Hey 2022ers... Any advice on if I should take either physics 2 or ochem 2 before the MCAT? I can't do both.
That's a tough call. Org Chem is about 10% of the new MCAT science sections, and Physics is around 12%.Hey 2022ers... Any advice on if I should take either physics 2 or ochem 2 before the MCAT? I can't do both.
That's a tough call. Org Chem is about 10% of the new MCAT science sections, and Physics is around 12%.
It's easier for me to study physics on my own than OChem (engineering major).
I also think you need to know your OChem for the BioChem stuff. BioChem is about 25% of the science sections. It's MAJOR. I would take OChem. even better is to take both plus BioChem. I know you said you cannot, but you might come up with some kind of a plan.
Good luck.
You are not coming across as angry, and I apologize if what I said seemed disrespectful or ungrateful to Goro. I have great respect for Goro and appreciate all the effort he puts into advising all of us here. But the truth is I have found advice from other adcoms here to be more valuable for me. And I don't think it's just about being lucky. It is about what kind of student you are. Goro may be used to seeing certain kinds of students, as a DO school adcom, whereas someone like LizzyM, who I believe is an adcom at a top 20 allo school, probably sees a pretty different group--her advice has been far more applicable to my situation. I have no doubt that DOs are great doctors and that plenty of folks who attend osteopathic medical school are every bit as capable as those who attend allo schools. But it is very different to "prove" your ability to handle medical school curriculum if your undergraduate GPA is, say, a 3.4-3.5, and your MCAT 29-30ish, versus if you have a LizzyM above 75 with an undergraduate science major from a world-renowned research university. The reality is that Goro is not likely to see many applicants in the latter category, and so if a student is in the former category, looking to the ability to handle a full courseload is a reasonable way to assess whether the student can handle medical school. But if you've excelled when you HAVE been in school full time, and excelled at school while holding down serious non school responsibilities (work, family, etc.), and excelled at another rigorous sort of professional or graduate school, it would be RIDICULOUS to fault someone for not taking a full courseload, and I doubt that the adcoms at the MD schools where I got II were doing so. I don't think I just "got lucky"--I had solid academic credentials to present regardless of not having taken a full courseload recently. Sure, maybe some folks took it into account and I didn't get an II I could have gotten otherwise. But I got plenty of II (including 2 at top tier schools) to accomplish my goal, and my rate of return was far better than what you would predict based on Goro's advice.I won't disregard anything @Goro says. Goro knows more about med school admission and how adcoms think than you will ever know, because he/she is an adcom, you're not.
I'm happy things worked out for you. I really am. But if you disregarded most of what Goro said, according to you, then I think you just got lucky. Don't mistake being lucky for being good. And I'm sure there are so many other factors that adcoms consider that me and you don't even know they exist. Goro won't tell you about these factors because there is nothing you can do about them. Goro tells you about the things that you control and will benefit you.
Sorry if I came across as being angry or mad at you. I'm not. Just what you said bothered me. What @Goro, @gyngyn, Q and many others did, are doing for all the premeds on sdn is very appreciated. They tell you the things that you need to hear, not the things that you want to hear. They answer my stupid questions and your stupid questions patiently.
I'll never take an adive of a naive premed like you and me over the advice of Goro, because that will be stupid. You and me, my fellow current or previous premed, don't know what the heck we are talking about when it comes to med school admission. @Goro does.
Please, please, don't take this as me attacking you. But what you said is just wrong.
I'm glad you made it. You might be the exception. Again, don't mistake getting lucky for being good.
I wish you all the best. Please, don't be mad at me. We just need to correct each other. That's what makes SDN a great place for us.
Good luck.
Welcome aboard. Glad that you joined us. I'll be taking the April 2017 MCAT too. English is also my second language. And like you I fear the CARS section. I heard that reading philosophy books, the Economist, and the New York Times can help improve your comprehension. And doing a ton of passages. So, I'll try that.I plan to take the MCAT in April of 2017 and I will start officially studying in December of 2016. I think I will register for a Kaplan in person course, along with buying EK and TPR books. English is not my first language so I need some real miracles to get my CARS score high enough.
When is everyone planning on starting to study for the MCAT?
I'll be start my regiment in August.Whenever my summer class ends (probably late August or early September) I'll start formally studying for the January 2017 MCAT. I'm not taking any courses fall 2016, so hopefully I'll have enough free time.
I've begun pondering in regards to the Hook for my personal statement ......
So far its ;
Please let me in “I’m pretty sure there’s a lot more to life than being really, really, ridiculously good looking. And I plan on finding out what that is.”
HAH. Thats one way to start it.
In all seriousness, I'm concerned mine might seem a bit too dramatic. "I was twenty three the first time I saw someone die. The second time was about a week later."
Diverting back to the marginally more serious side of my young adult self. In all actuality I'm just reviewing some cellular and molecular bio.
Let your PS reflect who you are, but more so who you wish to be. Let them know youre not a drone. Show them youve got charisma and commitment.
On the topic of personal statements and work, I'm at least slightly concerned because I've been self employed for the last 17 years, most of which have been "average" (~$60k a year). I've sort of had no real choice however because I've been taking care of two kids (for a while as a single parent) that had epilepsy and Aspergers. The last few years however have been a pretty drastic change (for the better, at least financially). However, since I'm self employed and I don't really have anyone who is over me (my wife is actually listed as the CEO in the articles of incorporation) I'm not sure how to demonstrate my business success to prospective schools short of showing them my tax returns, retirement accounts, etc? Ironically I find myself wishing I had a boss to vouch for my skill set, lol.
On the topic of personal statements and work, I'm at least slightly concerned because I've been self employed for the last 17 years, most of which have been "average" (~$60k a year). I've sort of had no real choice however because I've been taking care of two kids (for a while as a single parent) that had epilepsy and Aspergers. The last few years however have been a pretty drastic change (for the better, at least financially). However, since I'm self employed and I don't really have anyone who is over me (my wife is actually listed as the CEO in the articles of incorporation) I'm not sure how to demonstrate my business success to prospective schools short of showing them my tax returns, retirement accounts, etc? Ironically I find myself wishing I had a boss to vouch for my skill set, lol.
hey everyone,
I am also working towards applying for the class of 2022. I have Orgo and physics left to complete. How is everyone getting their research experience? Any advice on how to go about doing it?
How are you paying for school right now? You can go to school part-time and work full-time. You need money to live. Don't take private loans or live on credit cards.I have question and hopefully someone can shine some light on it...I still need some classes for my pre-reqs, the university i am at now doesn't have a formal post-bac program so I am doing my own. I will be a non-degree seeking student which means I am not eligible for financial aid etc.. My issue is that I need a way to pay for it. I work part time and go to school full time right now finishing up my undergrad. I have some savings but am going through that quick. Thoughts? Banks that are easy to rob etc....
I have question and hopefully someone can shine some light on it...I still need some classes for my pre-reqs, the university i am at now doesn't have a formal post-bac program so I am doing my own. I will be a non-degree seeking student which means I am not eligible for financial aid etc.. My issue is that I need a way to pay for it. I work part time and go to school full time right now finishing up my undergrad. I have some savings but am going through that quick. Thoughts? Banks that are easy to rob etc....
How are you paying for school right now? You can go to school part-time and work full-time. You need money to live. Don't take private loans or live on credit cards.
I had the same problem. Got into a nice university, could do an informal post bacc there- but the cost is $735 a CREDIT and all the classes I have to take have labs! Finally decided that it wasn't worth the financial loss and am attending the local CC that has al the classes I need, has them at night and on Saturdays, AND is $115 a credit.