CNN: Largest FNT bust in history at Mexico border

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  1. drusso

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    Wall would have stopped This
     
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    The idiots charged in this should be charged with attempted murder
     
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    The "wall" is just a symbolic card that politicians are throwing around to get support.

    The topic is beneath us.
     
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    So you mean the tunnels?
     
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    If the US asylum laws and the birth right citizenship amendment were changed to be in line with what is common in other democracies then there would be little need for a wall. Add E-verify then move on.
     
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    And legalize recreational fentanyl.
     
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    It’s pretty scary- that much fentanyl. I thought most was mailed from China
     
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    yea cuz that truck that was caught was the only incident ever of attempted Fentanyl smuggling through our border...smh
     
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    Er... trumps own DHS acknowledges that vast majority of illicit drugs come through ports of entry... ie everyone believes this.


    Except maybe you and trump.
     
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    the birth-right citizenship thing is big. the 14th amendment was essentially put in place to ensure that blacks could not be denied citizenship. thats not an issue today, like in was in 1868.

    it is insane that you can illegally sneak into the united states (or overstay your visa) have a baby, and then the kid gets all the rights and benefits of America forever. you are rewarded for breaking the law
     
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    Alex....ill take "what is the tip of the iceberg" for $1000

    it's not like a wall will allow them to deploy more resources to ports of entry, right? If you want to continue the moronic argument that walls dont work, fine by me.
     
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    what is moronic is that no one else believes that walls will work, yet the prez persists on wasting 5+ billion dollars on 215 miles of wall - only 100 of which is new wall (the border is ~2000 miles long)

    want to spend 5 billion in a worthwhile manner?

    it would double the budget allocated for substance abuse.

    it could pay for Medicaid for 1,200,000 people, or 4% of the uninsured population in the US.

    it could buy 52 trident missiles, and we will need more since we are going back to the Cold War days against Mother Russia.

    it could increase by 10% the size of our F-22 Raptor force.

    it could pay for 2 Virginia class nuclear submarines.
     
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    Your quoted price of said wall is one of the best arguments I can think of to argue for the federal govt. being in charge of as little as possible.
     
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    we already knew Trump made you a warmonger....please spare me the "no-one else believes" propaganda. When are you moving to Venezuela?....CNN says it is beautiful this time of year. And how come we are going to war with Russia?.....i thought they were besties with Trump?
     
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    With that incoherent rant, I think you must be channeling Drumpf
     
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    When are you moving to Venezuela?....
    Deflection. not pertinent to discussion. shows lack of basis for original argument.

    Homeland Security Secretary Has Said Border Wall Alone Will Not Work
    5 Problems ‘the Wall’ Won’t Solve
    https://www.insidesources.com/wall-wont-work/
    Why the Wall Won't Work
    Opinion: Why the border wall won’t work
    Why Walls Won't Work: Repairing the US-Mexico Divide (EXCERPT) | HuffPost

    ad infinitum...

    if you want to invest money in other methods of stopping illegal immigration, or make the process of legal immigration easier so that there is no illegal immigration, democrats are for that (ie improve technology, drones, immigration sites to welcome immigrants and screen them easily and efficiently, etc.).
     
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    common sense eludes you...im in agreement with the first headline you cited.
     
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    curious to know why you flip flopped about Russia....wasnt Trump just colluding with them?
     
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    But Stormy Daniels...
     
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    What are you talking about, flip flopping?


    Oh wait another diversionary tactic. Nice try. This thread is about the fentanyl bust, and devolved into walls (because they will not stop flow of fentanyl in to the US).
     
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    your post above.....remember? Let me bold it for you.
     
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    Can you reconcile: "Trump is colluding with Russia" and "Trump is going back to the Cold War days against Mother Russia"?

    Unless... Russia wants a cold war to divert attention from Kavenaugh attempting to serial gang rape Stormy Daniels in Trump tower. That would explain why the board room was extra clean on the morning after... More after these messages...
     
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    No he can’t....he’s waiting for the next liberal media talking points telling him what to think. Orange man bad....no wall....FYI they just spent $550 million on sound barrier walls around the expressway in south florida. So it’s ok for walls to keep traffic sounds out of neighborhoods, but not for protecting our borders.
     
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    Says the guy who parrots every " Fox and Friends" talking point over the last year and claims he is Independent...LMFAO
     
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    Not a fan of either major party!

    The Democrats are just against ANYTHING Trump is for.....previously Democrat leadership (Sen. Shumer and many Democrats supported a bill authorizing a southern fence, wall; whatever you want to call it), however; now not.....hmm. Simple and disdainful politics.....but that's politics.

    Note not dissimilar to the Republicans during Obama's term, but now with even more vigor.

    Cheers
     
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    Liberals continue to allow themselves to be trolled into untenable positions...
     
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    Russia wants to take over the world. either through manipulating the US elections or by having overwhelming superiority - military and financial.

    they could manipulate 1 man to give them "access" to overwhelming superiority. Trump is so blind that he does not see that he has been manipulated so completely as to give up everything that is restraining Russia from global domination.

    what would work best for Russia - have the US was divided and weak internally, and have strife and fight with our allies that directly oppose Russia (ie NATO). fight with our trade partners like the Pan-Pacific trade agreements, work against China and the one other great threat to global domination.

    get trump to get out of all the opposing alliances and release all the restraining effects of these treaties and then outspend the US that they could not do back in the 1980s.
     
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    this is the stupidest thing you have ever posted. which is saying a lot, because you have had so many doozies over the years.
     
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    Pretty Dumb, but far from the Stupidest
     
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    You guys already said that...I get it. You’re the smartest guys in the room. Don’t get triggered by your hate kids....either way somehow I’ll find a way to carry on....I’ll gladly take stupid vs socialist/democrat.
     
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    This paradigm can be applied to virtually every country in the world.....and all those that play Risk!
     
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    Said the " Independent"
     
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    Any kind of conspiracy involving Trump in this is a hypothetical fantasy that has no basis in reality.

    Compared to the prior administration where Obama went out of his way to appease Russia with a "reset" (Russian reset - Wikipedia) after mocking Romney for saying Russia was a threat, allowing Putin to invade and Annex part of Ukraine. Even then, Obama still did not provide weapons to Ukraine for fear of upsetting Putin. Where was your outrage at this Manchurian candidate in the White House? Where was Rachel Maddow and all the rest of the "if true crowd"?

    Trump has authorized the sale of weapons to Ukraine (Officials: U.S. agrees to provide lethal weapons to Ukraine). He unwound the "Russian Reset" and offered a missile defense to Poland (Poland signs $4.75 billion deal for U.S. Patriot missile system facing Russia | Reuters).

    How are these congruent with your narrative? Some more elaborate conspiracy?
     
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    U said it well....I prefer trolling the 3 “smart guys” for the sake of time
     
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    It's only a matter of time until this house of cards comes crashing down, and it will probably be because the investigations from the Southern district of NY.......if you are " not smart" enough to realize how corrupt Drumpf and family are there is no help for you.....maybe you can try your stem cell treatment?
     
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    i am more convinced than ever right now that they are ALL going down. there are so many crimes here that it takes years to unravel them all. but it is coming......
     
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    DCS

    delusional commie syndrome
     
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    the government right now is Koyaanisqatsi.

    we need balance.
     
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    Reality check: A few minor white collar and process crimes have been uncovered because of dedicated, intense scrutiny.

    Keeping you guys excited, angry, and motivated keeps you tuned in for advertisers and politicians to deploy you when needed. One thing that is absolutely guaranteed, this will definitely not wrap up for at least 2 years. If Trump loses re-election, it will instantly wrap up. If he wins, indeed it will take many years to keep you - I mean, to unravel all the crimes that must exist because they must exist...
     
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    now who is delusional?

    these are major felonies involving MANY people -- maybe up to 50 people or more. this involves foreign governments, our democracy, and our way of life. this isnt nothing.

    if trump loses in 2020, he is going to jail. if he even makes it that far.
     
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    Are you talking Trump or Clinton? Benghazi, Foster, Uranium 1, the foundation, etc. Opposing parties love scandals as a means to control the populace and minimize agenda from the other side. Smoke and mirrors. Millionaires and billionaires keeping down the public. Vote Starbucks.
    How is Virginia going for you this week?
     
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    Brother you are seriously brainwashed...

    A "major felony" is child murder. "Lying" and "failure to register" are minor and victimless infractions that are only major felonies in Maddow-World. Only Political junkies care. Democrats are really getting trolled again here.

     
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    by definition, a felony is a "major" crime

    victimless? WTF is wrong with you?

    we will see how much people care when all of these degenerates are rotting in a cell. you break the law, you go to jail. sounds fair to me.
     
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    There is an 80 year old sport broadcaster Wolfe something in FL who is facing felony charge for taking down the part of the signage outside of his subdivision that said -plantation- as he thinks it’s racist.

    Not all felonies are created equally and prosecutors often max the charges (that they know will never stick) to get a plea
     
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    More convinced now than ever, huh? Sounds serious. What’s the new bombshell now? Is Maddow breaking this story? How’s that crush you have on her going?

    Any RBG sightings? Cuz we are ready for a dominant conservative SCOTUS for my kids....thank God.
     
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    You realize that both Bill and Hillary Clinton committed felonies right? These are known felonies, not hypothetical, speculative felonies like you are hoping for against Trump. Bill lied under oath to a grand jury. Hillary violated the Federal Records Act by taking and storing federal records (email communications) outside of federal custody and destroying much of them. So are you saying, "Lock them up"?

    Why is Bill Clinton, who is a KNOWN FELON (OMG!) allowed to walk around free in this world of ours? He's so dangerous, after all, being a (MAJOR) FELON!
     
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    to be clear, and to avoid fake news....

    be truthful.

    neither clintons (nor trump) have been convicted as felons. there are no known felonies against any of them.

    thinking they committed a felony and actually being served a felony arrest warrant are two distinct different events that you are conflating.
     
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    Being served or arrested is not being convicted. Innocent until proven guilty. Except in the publics eyes.
     
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