yo eriol, keep your hopes up. they have an extremely active waitlist. the first-year student i stayed with got in off the waitlist, and another first-year student there said that columbia has one of the most active waitlists in the country, if not the most active. i think he said that ~40% of the incoming class is comprised of alternates.eriol said:Hi everyone. First time I've read SDN or posted here... I just got my Columbia waitlist letter today as well. I'm hoping against hope that I'll be accepted on down the road, but I felt as though my interview with Frantz was actually my weakest med school interview thus far (which was really upsetting bc I absolutely loved Columbia). I got his thank you note "strongly in mind" letter as well.
I get the sinking feeling that Columbia doesn't outright reject post-interview, and that my wait listing is more of a "gentle" let-down (if you can call being left on the hanger gentle). Here's a question: would anyone who reads this who got accepted and who *doesn't* plan on taking it let us know? I for one would appreciate still knowing there's a chance, even if I'm purely in denial now...
I'm on it too.shambohh said:It had to start sooner or later......and I'm on it.
Which state are you in? Sorry to hear about the waitlist.chumpana said:I got the waitlist... knew it was coming. (Plus the smaller white envelope in my mailbox confirmed it)
now question to you all, does everyone's waitlist letter include that you're "very highly ranked" or are there separate versions of this alternate letter? Just trying to figure out if Columbia liked me or is trying to let me down easy.
goodluck to you all. I guess now we wait
Apparently Columbia IS rejecting outright. So the waitlist is good! Someone just posted about it in the other thread. And my mail has yet to come, but I have a feeling I might be a part of that dubious distinction too.eriol said:I got "very highly ranked" as well. I'm more curious as to how big the list is, if there really is any ranking to it, and if *anybody* gets flat out rejected or if they just waitlist everyone post-interview. Can anyone in the know clarify this stuff?
I feel exactly the same way. I've been trying to stay positive about all of this, I do have other acceptances to good schools which I shouldn't be down about.... but man I want Columbia. I sent in my Letter of Grovelation (well not grovelation, I thought it was decently eloquent...). How long do you guys think I should sit on that waiting for a reply? People Who Got Off The Waitlist Last Year, how did you go about this stuff? I'm thinking that in another two weeks or so I'll send another note explicitly requesting a second interview. Good or no? Should I call as well or no? So paranoid about screwing it up! hahams2209 said:Okay people, time for me to hopefully perk things up around here. So, after a couple hours of being down in the dumps, I thought of a few things that definitely made me feel better, and I shall share these with you all. First of all, much congrats to everyone here - heck, we are on the waitlist at a top school, and that's nothing to sniff at!!! Right? Second, it's NOT a rejection - people HAVE gotten in off of the waitlist, and spots will open up this year, so all is NOT lost. And finally, all of the individuals on here are awesome applicants and have gotten acceptances from other schools (or will be getting them fairly soon) - we're going to be doctors!!! It's easy to lose sight of this during the course of this crazy process, but I thought about it today, and in the end, none of it matters - we're going to be doing what we love, and we're all going to be successful, and we're fortunate for what we have. Yes, Columbia is a great school, and I (as I'm sure most, if not all of you) would love to attend, but at the same time, it's not the only school that would make me happy. So please, perk up, and let's all bond together - you guys have been a great support system for me, and I hope that I can be the same for you. It's truly an honor to be on the waitlist with such an amazing, talented group of people...and let's try to make the most of this experience. I really hope that we all end up where we'll be happiest, and I have no doubt that everyone here will be extremely successful no matter what.
No, he only second interviews people he didn't first-interview, if that makes sense.eriol said:Question: I've been trying to discern if people in years past who had second interviews had their first interview with Dr. Frantz (becuase i did). Does anyone know if he interviews people he's already spoken with a second time?
No!! I was in-state at UNC, and Columbia was cheaper! We have awesome fin. aid here. Fill out the FAFSA.KatieOConnor said:3-5-05
Day three, still no word from Columbia post wait list. My supply of beer and pizza has started to run low. Spirits beginning to dwindle...
On a serious note, I have a question about financial aid. If I don't go to Columbia, I'll go to my state school. If I go to my state school, I don't need to apply for financial aid for M1. So I haven't bothered with FAFSA yet. Now, if I were, miracle of all miracles, to get off the waitlist at Columbia, would I be screwed as far as financial aid is concerned?
oh that makes me feel like my chances are even worse now... This process is so destructive to self confidence!aprilshyla said:No, he only second interviews people he didn't first-interview, if that makes sense.
as far as I've been able to tell they've all said "very highly ranked." Does anyone have anything more personalized? A handwritten note or anything?ead said:My waitlist letter stated "very highly ranked"--do all waitlist letters say this or are some "highly ranked" instead?
I think I just developed an ulcer from reading those threads.ms2209 said:Hey ya'll - so this may seem like a really stupid question, but if we've been waitlisted at a school, do we still send financial aid info to that school, or is there pretty much no point? I'm assuming they have no use for such info, but I remember hearing from someone that it should be sent to waitlist schools, so what's the deal?
Anyway, I've gathered some of the threads discussing the waitlist from last year (they're not too purty, but nonetheless):
The best advice I can give you is to run far, far away from SDN until you actually apply (or at the very least, until May 16). Compounding our March neuroticism with all the time you still have left can not possibly be healthy!eulogia228 said:Even though I haven't even started this process yet and I won't be starting for a few more years, I already hate it with a passion.
If we were all in the same place I would definitely buy each and every one of you a beer right now. And probably another after you pounded the first one.rme04 said:I just read the columbia waitlist thread from 2003. that was some depressing ****. The very last posts on July 10, 2003 read something like:
*can we stop bumping this thread. its like reopening a wound*
*inserts needle into eye*
god help us.
you mean like updated grades? definitely send them, esp. since they are good. i'd think they can't hurt and could only help your app. (i had a friend who sent an updated transcript to columbia post-interview, pre-decision and got back a nice stock/generic postcard thanking him for his communication)eriol said:If I have things on my transcript that don't show up on AMCAS (such as A+'s) would you recommend that I send those into Columbia? Or would they be unhelpful overkill?
not exactly updated. Remember how AMCAS doesn't count A+'s, and rounds them down to A's? I thought that letting them know I had A+'s in these big, difficult courses might count for something...CalGoldenBear said:you mean like updated grades? definitely send them, esp. since they are good. i'd think they can't hurt and could only help your app. (i had a friend who sent an updated transcript to columbia post-interview, pre-decision and got back a nice stock/generic postcard thanking him for his communication)
The reason AMCAS doesn't have A+s is because a lot of schools don't have them, so they are really only meaningful to the particular school. For instance, my school assigns 3.7,3.8,3.9,4.0 and so on for each course, but when I mail grades I send the AMCAS letter equivalents.eriol said:not exactly updated. Remember how AMCAS doesn't count A+'s, and rounds them down to A's? I thought that letting them know I had A+'s in these big, difficult courses might count for something...
Let me guess...he spent the first half of a long interview asking you questions, and the second half of the interview telling you how great Columbia would be for you. Then the waitlist...tommerbommer said:I interviewed with Dr. Frantz, and I thought things went really well. I guess they didn't go well enough. Hmmmm... what should I do?