Columbiaaa interview (woooooooootttttttttt, Here is my story)........

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THE DJAPPRENTICE IS BACKKK & feeling MUCH better than ever!!!!!!!! 🙂

How's it going guys? 🙂 Its been quite a while I know!!! I took my test on 9/23 and the results were mixed, I had some good & bad parts. I was not planning to post my scores, but I'm going to do it to prove a point to everyone with mediocre, or only slightly above average stats:



First of all, I'd like to thank God, because without his help, the hardwork, the blood, sweat, & YES, even TEARS I shed for this moment, wouldn't be possible without him, so, Alhumdudillah to that. I love SDN & you've been a great help to myself & the others on here but, I want to put a few things to rest once & for all. First to my fellow soldiers in the struggle, with 20- stats, very often you'll come across posts telling you to re-take the dat. Many before us have done even worst and have gotten accepted to wonderful schools. I read about a few post saying not to even bother applying to Columbia if you have less than a 20, you have no shot, I cringed when I read those and it challenged me even more to overcome that stereotype. The journey to this point was far from easy, it was a long and dark one. I gave up my whole summer, parties, friends, girls, everything, you name it, I locked all away, while my friends lived it up this summer. Using every prep material, from tospcore, to examkrackers, especially for bio which is verry helpful, & the infamous Destroyer. I couldn't have done it without that. The dat destroyer gang was absolutely right about Nancy & Dr. Romano, words can't even begin to express my gratitude to them. Just give them a shot, for a small investment in your future, what have you got to lose. I won't sound like a broken record on this one, but try it, & you be the judge. Many of you might have been wondering: what happened to djapprentice, & his disappearance. Honestly, after last month, I took it pretty hard, & I was depressed for a week. I didn't have much zeal, & couldn't bring myself to post on SDN, I would just stare at the screen, reading the posts because it was even hard to get my thoughts on any post, you HAVE no idea. So my apologies for anyone who's PM's I haven't gotten to within the past month. I was really worried about not getting into any dental schools. I figured having a good gpa & being a minority would help, but after seeing the pool of 20's, I was happy for everyone, but at the same time I was also really concerned about what was going to happen to me and where I would go from here. My folks, as much as they mean well were planning to send me to the carribbean or even England, (we have family all over the world). I love NYC dearly, have a deep bond and I was willing to fight this to the bitter finish. just so I can stay here, I applied to 7 other schools as well, so hopefully that should help too. Some of my friends wound up going to the caribbean just to get into med school. I mean hey, if you really want something bad enough, you'll do what you have to, just to pursue your dreams. One thing I want to bring to your attention was my 3 rejections from last year, & am still currently waitlisted at one of my favorite schools. This was painful for me, but I think some major reasons for this outcome was the first DAT and APPLYING LATE as well. That certainly didn't help my cause. This time, I did my best on the DAT and decorated my application to the fullest extent possible, along with applying EXTRA early (applied May 19th). I am just soooo speechless right now and I'll go into more detail later, but for now, just take this home, take the pessimists on this site with a grain of salt. No offense, but think about it, we're going to be future colleagues and we should do our best to help each other out and not discourage someone from fulfilling their dream. You can still be realistic at the same time, but LET me tell you something FELLOW SDN'ers PLEASE DON'T be afraid to apply to a school just because of your scores. MOST schools look at the applicant as a WHOLE person, not ONLY who has a 24 vs a 26, etc. I opened this letter & found the biggest shock of my life and BOY was I pleasently surprised. The first thing I saw was the travel info paper & the parking info. Upon seeing that, I had some idea of what this letter would entail. This is your time now SDN and if anybody needs help or advice with anything, don't think twice about hitting me up. Myself & many others this cycle are prime examples, & we offer a dose of hope. I have a lot more to say, but I'm still speechless & beside myself and I'm about to head to the clinic to do some shadowing 🙂. Keep plugging away, work hard & don't give up, things will fall into place for you eventually.

Credits: This is the part where I give a special thanks to all the people that have been soo helpful to me, a big inspiration & been there for me throughout this bumpy journey:

I know I didn't talk to & get to know many of you, but that is going to change soon.

I'll leave you with this for now: Columbia was my first rejection last year with my old stats, so I didn't give up, I stuck with it, put my best foot foward, & what I can to shine this year, & walaaaaa, this year it is my VERY FIRST INTERVIEWWW!!!! Hopefully the other schools will come through for me as well!!!! So take note of this all my people still in the struggle.


Lifeisgood (you rock bro)
Uracil
Amsie (check out Amsie's Dat Destroyer review)
Fariba
Allstardentist
electron
RTO223
Notoriousjae
In Her Drawer
Tissy
Orthodox Bear
DMDtoBe
JohnDoeDDS (PAT sucks, I know)
Polobear
Shane
GRAD
DDS
NilamPatel
Angel Dust

The guy who had great sex with his wife before the test, & it helped him crush the DAT!!!!! I forgot who that was, but that was a good laugh during my crazy summer of studies.

just too many to name, but thank you all, you guys, you guys deserve the Nobel Peace Prize, lol 🙂

Yellow Snow (hey man, you got an interview at NYU with a 14 Qr, so there's hope for me 🙂, I rest my case fellow SDN'ers

(More will be added)
 
wow! congrats, dude! 👍
 
Congrats. What percentage of interviewees does Columbia accept?
 
Congrats. What percentage of interviewees does Columbia accept?

Thanks a lot for the love, 🙂 I'm not sure, but the person I spoke said there's no waiting list. I'm pretty sure the majority of people will get accepted. If I find out anything, I'll let you know.
 
Wow, I would fainted if I were u, hehe~ Good job, now rock the interview~
 
Thanks a lot for the love, 🙂 I'm not sure, but the person I spoke said there's no waiting list. I'm pretty sure the majority of people will get accepted. If I find out anything, I'll let you know.

No, there is waitlist, cuz I know people from previous years got waitlist due to late application and late interview, but if u got interview this early, then u should be fine~
 
~~Yay~~ I am soooo happy for you!!! 😛 I wish you the best!!! You'll do GGRRReat!! 🙂
 
I had mine last week on 10/27
The faculty members are so great~~~
Dr. Davis and Dr. Mcmanus... really care the students...
U will love the interview~~
 
They interview about 230 applicants and sent out about 100 acceptance letters. This is what I heard during my interview

where did you get this info? from the admissions committee or one of the students? is this last year's stat?
hm. im going to have def rock my interview.
 
Congrats, Dj! 😀

Knock their socks off at the interview! 👍
 
yeaaaaaaaa! Good job bro! Ace that interview! Im starting to regret not applying to Columbia though because I figured I ahd below 20.Anyway good job man. I wouldnt even worry about the interview I know you will nail it! Keep us posted!
 
Good for you!! I also applied to Columbia, and my stats are similar to yours. You give me hope that I too will get an interview invite. Here's hoping!!:scared:
 
I don't think columbia is as competetive as most people believe it to be.
 
Congrats! Good luck on the interview. Now is the chance to show them who you are as a person, not simply from a statistical perspective
 
I don't think columbia is as competetive as most people believe it to be.


not true. their average DAT scores are 23.5...basically 98-99th percentile nationwide. i'd say thats pretty competitive. makes my 21 AA look like crap on toast
 
congrats DJ!!! when is your interview??
 
yeah, Columbia places extreme emphasis on DAT scores while GPA isn't nearly as important. I believe the average GPA is around 3.4. Basically, if you have a 22+ DAT, you have a pretty good shot at getting in Columbia.
 
I told you already but im SOOOOOOOOO happy for you!!

I hate you 21!!!

ill call u soon i promise 🙂
 
DJ, I am so happy for you. Sorry for not keeping in touch lately. Congratulations on your interview. I know you will rock the interview and they will have no option but to accept you. 1-luv
 
its nice to see good things happen to good people! congrats! 😀
 
So I guess going into the admissions last month and comparing my stats to yours while talking about me helped you....congrats!! I don't know if I'm still mad at you or getting over it...time will tell. 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 And I still don't know if that'll hurt me but I'm still happy for you b/c anyone who gets an interview has worked hard for it...even if it includes going to admissions and questioning why others are interviewed with low stats...good job...
 
Congrats!!




not to burst your bubble or any1 elses for that matter..but doesnt 13 seem kinda low for a school like columbia???!
 
I haven't been on SDN for a while!! BUT I am so glad to hear good NEWS 😀 👍 I guess I'm coming back now! 🙂

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You deserve it!!!!!!!!! Well done! 😍
 
I haven't been on SDN for a while!! BUT I am so glad to hear good NEWS 😀 👍 I guess I'm coming back now! 🙂

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You deserve it!!!!!!!!! Well done! 😍

Any news yet, Uracil?
 
THE DJAPPRENTICE IS BACKKK & feeling MUCH better than ever!!!!!!!! 🙂

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First of all, I'd like to thank God, because without his help, the hardwork, the blood, sweat, & YES, even TEARS I shed for this moment, wouldn't be possible without him, so, Alhumdudillah to that. ...

ok....chill...!!..if you get too high, then if you fall, you'll fall hard!!!. save the tears and the ecstacy for an acceptance letter, and be cautiously optimistic because your DATs are relatively low, especially for columbia. the fact that columbia granted you an interview is great but it hardly means anything. i think with your scores, you need to apply to a lot of schools to maximize your chances.

if you've worked hard for these scores, thank yourself, and those who supported you, not god. depend on yourself, not god. how do you know it's a "he" by the way? have you seen his/its wang or somethin' ? whatever...just be carefull not to celebrate too soon.
 
not true. their average DAT scores are 23.5...basically 98-99th percentile nationwide. i'd say thats pretty competitive. makes my 21 AA look like crap on toast

lol.......no no no...columbia's average DAT is 30.....
 
..but doesnt 13 seem kinda low for a school like columbia???!

Its not as if i totally aced the DAT but I completely agree.... 13 should be a deal breaker for most schools (especially Columbia, since they focus on the DAT so heavily).. but you have an interview so come prepared and be sure to be eloquent..... Maybe persistence is whats it took.. or maybe a token interview since you called and complained that someone with lower stats is got an interview??

Anyway.. Congrats & good luck to you! Doesn't an interview at Columbia just make you feel like you actually do belong in this crowd of wanna be dentist! it did for me 😀
 
So I guess going into the admissions last month and comparing my stats to yours while talking about me helped you....congrats!! I don't know if I'm still mad at you or getting over it...time will tell. 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁 And I still don't know if that'll hurt me but I'm still happy for you b/c anyone who gets an interview has worked hard for it...even if it includes going to admissions and questioning why others are interviewed with low stats...good job...



So since you're going around & blowing this thing wayyyy out of proportion, people, please read my story & use your judgement before jumping to conclusions. You don't know me to be judging what I'm doing & not doing. Ask lifeisgood, he's probably one of the only true friends I have on this board & Uracil, Busdent, & some others. Tissy, this is the EXACT PM I sent to you, & I hate to do this, but since you're not giving SDN the FULL story, here's the PM that explains WHAT I was trying to tell you. If people are sooo quick to believe any one side of a story, it really says a lot about their maturity, don't you think, & think about it? Why would somebody throw dirt & bad-mouth another person they DON'T EVEN KNOW about this on a public forum, I mean, its common sense guys, wouldn't it be best, if they can resolve it like two mature adults? Here's the explanation I was trying to tell you tissy, & I'm one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I'm soo sick of people talking stuff about me & they don't KNOW ME AT ALL. Here is my story & response to this matter:

Hey Tissy,

Let's get a few things straight. Once & for all. If you had just listened to me that night, instead of cutting me off, & going on, & on & not letting me finish, I could've explained this better. Seriously, I never mentioned your name to anybody. All I was trying to tell you was that she read off some names of some minority people & I was just telling you. I never said or did anything to hurt you & you wouldn't listen nor believe me. If they said my name to you & you came back & told me, they mentioned me, sure I'd be shocked, but I wouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions & assume you're out to get me. I would atleast listen to you & see what you were trying to say. Again, even though I didn't say anything about you, I'm sorry that she did that, this was something out of my control, something I didn't even do. I didn't mention no Tissy or anything. You've bad-mouthed me now to SDN & I hope you're happy about that. But you know something, people can believe what they want to believe. But people on this forum who are so gullible to believe the first thing they hear, & going to blast out someone on a public forum, makes you wonder about their maturity. I have nothing but respect for you, but this is where I'm going to have to draw the line. This was something we should've worked out on the phone like two mature adults, we didn't need to get all of SDN involved in this, & I'm VERY MAD about that? Tell me What did that accomplish? I'm fed up of you thinking I'm out to get you, please get thats stuff out of your head & squash this ONCE & for all. I NEVER EVER SAID ANYTHING THAT WOULD COMPROMISE YOUR PRIVACY, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT. I'm putting this issue to rest, & you can believe whatever you want, & you're still talking stuff about me, & that's not right, but whatever, I don't care anymore, I've said enough & good luck with your interviews. If you want to keep throwing dirt on my name on a public national forum, its really sad that it had to come to that, but it was nice talking to you, & good luck in your interviews. I wish you nothing but the best, & I think I am the one that should leave SDN, because I don't need this crap, I never did anything to hurt you & just understand that, this is kindergarten stuff.

Best wishes,

Djapprentice


Guys, thanks soo much for the love, I'm pretty tired, but tomorrow I'll add you all to my credits 🙂

Those people who are still standing by me regardless of this crazy drama, I thank you, & you're my true friends. I really appreciate it.
 
So since you're going around & blowing this thing wayyyy out of proportion, people, please read my story & use your judgement before jumping to conclusions. You don't know me to me judging what I'm doing & not doing. Ask lifeisgood, he's probably one of the only true friends I have on this board & Tissy, this is the EXACT PM I sent to you, & I hate to do this, but since you're not giving SDN the FULL story, here's the PM that explains WHAT I was trying to tell you. If people are sooo quick to believe any one side of a story, it really says a lot about their maturity, don't you think, & think about it? Why would somebody throw dirt & bad-mouth another person they DON'T EVEN KNOW about this on a public forum, I mean, its common sense guys, wouldn't it be best, if they can resolve it like two mature adults? Here's the explanation I was trying to tell you tissy, & I'm one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I'm soo sick of people talking stuff about me & they don't KNOW ME AT ALL. Here is my story & response to this matter:

Hey Tissy,

Let's get a few things straight. Once & for all. If you had just listened to me that night, instead of cutting me off, & going on, & on & not letting me finish, I could've explained this better. Seriously, I never mentioned your name to anybody. All I was trying to tell you was that she read off some names of some minority people & I was just telling you. I never said or did anything to hurt you & you wouldn't listen nor believe me. If they said my name to you & you came back & told me, they mentioned me, sure I'd be shocked, but I wouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions & assume you're out to get me. I would atleast listen to you & see what you were trying to say. Again, even though I didn't say anything about you, I'm sorry that she did that, this was something out of my control, something I didn't even do. I didn't mention no Tissy or anything. You've bad-mouthed me now to SDN & I hope you're happy about that. But you know something, people can believe what they want to believe. But people on this forum who are so gullible to believe the first thing they hear, & going to blast out someone on a public forum, makes you wonder about their maturity. I have nothing but respect for you, but this is where I'm going to have to draw the line. This was something we should've worked out on the phone like two mature adults, we didn't need to get all of SDN involved in this, & I'm VERY MAD about that? Tell me What did that accomplish? I'm fed up of you thinking I'm out to get you, please get thats stuff out of your head & squash this ONCE & for all. I NEVER EVER SAID ANYTHING THAT WOULD COMPROMISE YOUR PRIVACY, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT. I'm putting this issue to rest, & you can believe whatever you want, & you're still talking stuff about me, & that's not right, but whatever, I don't care anymore, I've said enough & good luck with your interviews. If you want to keep throwing dirt on my name on a public national forum, its really sad that it had to come to that, but it was nice talking to you, & good luck in your interviews. I wish you nothing but the best, & I think I am the one that should leave SDN, because I don't need this crap, I never did anything to hurt you & just understand that, this is kindergarten stuff.

Best wishes,

Djapprentice



haha, oh man...sdn drama. this is more entertaining than watching scrubs :laugh:



dj...congrats on the interview
 
Sure is....Tissy vs. DJ Apprentice..who is tellin the truth..oh my goodienessnessness...

Anyways, like I said before...congrats Mr. DJ!!! 🙂
 
Boooooo....!!!

Djapprentice's the rat who went out and conned his way into a CU interview. That's low down. Regardless of whether you mentioned a person by name, you still did something despicable. Plus, it won't take CU long to figure out who Tissy is, just by mentioning her AA. They really don't give out too many interviews to those low scorers. Boooo!!!! You didn't earn jack. BOOO!!!

Hope you spend loads of money going to the interview, just to get shot down. BOOOO!!!
 
Boooooo....!!!

Djapprentice's the rat who went out and conned his way into a CU interview. That's low down. Regardless of whether you mentioned a person by name, you still did something despicable. Plus, it won't take CU long to figure out who Tissy is, just by mentioning her AA. They really don't give out too many interviews to those low scorers. Boooo!!!! You didn't earn jack. BOOO!!!

Hope you spend loads of money going to the interview, just to get shot down. BOOOO!!!

Hey man, negative vibes are no good. We should be doing nothing but wishing the best for our fellow applicants. All of our fellow applicants.
 
Hey man, negative vibes are no good. We should be doing nothing but wishing the best for our fellow applicants. All of our fellow applicants.

I will not support this type of behavior. It's low-down and I'm going to shun it. For an applicant to show absolute incompetance on a standardized exam (and get a 13 PAT) and con the adcom at CU into granting him an interview...shameful.
 
I will not support this type of behavior. It's low-down and I'm going to shun it. For an applicant to show absolute incompetance on a standardized exam (and get a 13 PAT) and con the adcom at CU into granting him an interview...shameful.

Ok, here is the deal: none of us should be getting involved in this thing. Whatever happened is between Dj and Tissy, not you and not me. All I need to know is that Tissy is applying, and so is Dj. I want them both to do well. I suggest you do the same.
 
Ok, here is the deal: none of us should be getting involved in this thing. Whatever happened is between Dj and Tissy, not you and not me. All I need to know is that Tissy is applying, and so is Dj. I want them both to do well. I suggest you do the same.

Suggestion noted. And ignored. Passivity to degrading behavior is not my thing. Sorry bro.
 
Suggestion noted. And ignored. Passivity to degrading behavior is not my thing. Sorry bro.

I'm sorry to hear that, Student. Just remember that you will never really know what went down, as this is purely a he said/she said situation. In light of this, people should refrain from passing judgement on either Tissy or Dj. Oh, and remind me never to fall out of your good graces. 😉
 
holly cow....i just realized that the OP called out on another person's stats just to get an interview....

to the OP:

what you did was wrong because you placed tissy in a difficult situation; now they may not accept her just because they feel that if they did, then they'd have to accept you. also another very important why what you did is plain wrong:

IT IS PATHETIC TO CON YOUR WAY INTO AN INTERVIEW AT A PROFESSIONAL SCHOOL! they should want you. you should not need to beg.

oh wait, maybe allah can blind the adcom so that you can sneak your way in...lol...alhamdulilah
 
I do not believe that Columbia did grant u an interview after u con the admission office.
U must have some other outstanding things Columbia found out

Or
R u in link with a mafia in New York?
Chill guyz~~~
 
holly cow....i just realized that the OP called out on another person's stats just to get an interview....

to the OP:

what you did was wrong because you placed tissy in a difficult situation; now they may not accept her just because they feel that if they did, then they'd have to accept you. also another very important why what you did is plain wrong:

IT IS PATHETIC TO CON YOUR WAY INTO AN INTERVIEW AT A PROFESSIONAL SCHOOL! they should want you. you should not need to beg.

oh wait, maybe allah can blind the adcom so that you can sneak your way in...lol...alhamdulilah

Do you realize that this is not just a numbers game? I'm sure you must have, otherwise they wouldn't require that they interview us.
 
Do you realize that this is not just a numbers game? I'm sure you must have, otherwise they wouldn't require that they interview us.

Nothing's ever one-sided like that. No, it's not just a numbers game. But DJ'd better have something to overshadow a 13 PAT.

and one admissions officer admitted that they pretty much have a good idea who they're going to accept before even interviewing. They just want to make sure that the candidate doesn't have something weird going on. (no socially awkward people)
 
Do you realize that this is not just a numbers game? I'm sure you must have, otherwise they wouldn't require that they interview us.

off course it is not just the numbers. but other factors are considered after the candidate meets the stats standards. when the numbers are rather low, it becomes a deal breaker. as far as why interview somebody with low numbers? well, i do not know exactly why cus i am not in any admissions committee. who knows why?...my wilde guess would be political correctness and begging by the applicant
 
I do hope that what happened between DJ and Tissy is simply a misunderstanding. And if DJ actually did something wrong, it was unintentional or he feels badly about it and has apologized.

Whatever is the case, I do hope both candidates good luck and I want to thank them for providing inspiration for many people.
 
Any news yet, Uracil?


In her drawer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! No news yet. But no worries. Everything happens for a reason and I believe God has a place for me somewhere. If not, it's ok. 😳
 
In her drawer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii! No news yet. But no worries. Everything happens for a reason and I believe God has a place for me somewhere. If not, it's ok. 😳

I'm glad to see that you still have faith! You will be fine. 🙂
 
All I know is that if I were tissy,I'd be fuming right now and probably wouldnt have handled the situation as diplomatically as she did. That said,good luck on your interview,DJ.😎
 
im having trouble understanding what actually happened b/w the two.😕

from what ive read, it seems as if someone tricked the adcom into granting an interview.

but, good luck to all.👍
 
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