COMP Class of 2008 part 01

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friedcfood said:
dang, hope all 2nd years are as cool as you. props mang! 👍
Hey fried I'm across the room from you. :laugh:

I am not sure if having an internet connection while in class is good. 😉
 
Where are you SDN'ers?????
I only met Fried, JaCK, hEREATLAST, and JMC
 
LifeLongPassion said:
Where are you SDN'ers?????
I only met Fried, JaCK, hEREATLAST, and JMC
yeah I've only met fried, sense, and thefish...see you all tomorrow, and hopefully we can all meet. Take care you all.....
 
I had a great day at orientation today! I enjoyed just the relaxed nature of the day and the meet and greet aspect.

It was a trip meeting LLP in person - the HBO series "Sopranos" comes to mind 😎

Getting back to Ryan's question a while back about class dynamics - I liked what I saw today, I think we have great potential to be a tight class. And did you like the way they pumped us up about being the sharpest class "bar none." We must be the collective shiznit on paper.

Anyway, off to celebrate with the family - a nice dinner somewhere.

Catch you all later,

JMC
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
I had a great day at orientation today! I enjoyed just the relaxed nature of the day and the meet and greet aspect.

It was a trip meeting LLP in person - the HBO series "Sopranos" comes to mind 😎

JMC


I'm a huge Sopranos fan and I'm STILL havin' trouble understandin' this one.
whatcha mean? :scared:
 
Of the following textbooks, which one(s) do you recommend buying. I talked to some MSIIs and MSIVs and they indicated that I should only buy "NETTER: Atlas of Human Anatomy" for Anatomy.

ANATOMY * DORLAND: Illustrated Medical Dictionary
* STEDMANS: Medical Dictionary
* WEIR: Imaging Atlas of Human Anatomy
* LUMLEY: Surface Anatomy
* MOORE: Clinically Oriented Anatomy
* NETTER: Atlas of Human Anatomy
* SAUERLAND: Grant's Dissector

BIOCHEMISTRY * MARKS: Basic Medical Biochemistry

ESSENTIALS OF * BICKLEY: Bates' Guide to Physical Examination & History
CLINICAL Taking
MEDICINE * TIERNEY: Current Medical Diagnosis and Treatment
* STEIN: Rapid Analysis of Electrocardiograms
* SEIDEL: Mosby's Guide to Physical Examination
* FERRI: Practical Guide to the Care of the Medical Patient

EMBRYOLOGY * MOORE: The Developing Human

HISTOLOGY * GARTNER: Color Atlas of Histology
* JUNQUEIRA: Basic Histology

MICROBIOLOGY * MURRAY: Medical Microbiology

OSTEOPATHIC * HOPPENFELD: Physical Exam Spine & Extremities
MANIPULATIVE * WARD: Foundations for Osteopathic Medicine
MEDICINE

PATHOLOGY * KUMAR: Pathologic Basis of Disease

PHARMACOLOGY * KATZUNG: Basic and Clinical Pharmacology

Also, should us MSIs buy the following instruments/equipment:

* stethoscope
* sphygmomanometer set
* pen light
* pocket snellen chart
* opthalmoscope
* otoscope with insufflator and disposable ear speculums (adult and pediatric)
* tongue blades (depressors) - wrapped, disposable
* tuning forks 128 Hz (or 256 Hz) and 512 Hz
* reflex hammer
* short clinic jacket
* ID tag
* black-ink permanent pen
* equipment bag

Thanks!
 
JMC_MarineCorps said:
Bada-bing bada-boom...ask one more question and you'll be sleepin with the fishes tonight. :laugh:

u breakin' my balls? 🙄
 
Ok everyone, poker night at Lifelong's house tomorrow. BYOB. :meanie:
 
Sense said:
Ok everyone, poker night at Lifelong's house tomorrow. BYOB. :meanie:
sounds like a plan, is that cool LLP? You know I carry my chips with me at all times 😛 , so it's on whenever we can all get together....by the way I'm a huge sopranos fan also. I've seen every single episode except the last one (which BTW I'm trying to download off Kazzaa, but can't find it 😉 ) see you guys tomorrow....mafia movies are the ****zniks...I can't even remember how many times I've seen the godfather. late
 
Hey!

Today was pretty fun eh?! Anyhow, I say we all meet at lunch or break tomorrow. How about next to the planter by the stairwell/commons area at lunchtime? Bring a friend or two and introduce them to the love that is SDN!

Sound good?

-Ryan
 
Sense said:
Ok everyone, poker night at Lifelong's house tomorrow. BYOB. :meanie:

If you're going to throw a party at my pad the least you can do is introduce yourself today...haha

If we do this thurs. night how many heads are up for it?
 
LifeLongPassion said:
If you're going to throw a party at my pad the least you can do is introduce yourself today...haha

If we do this thurs. night how many heads are up for it?
:laugh: You know I didn't even think I saw you.

I'll go though. 👍
 
Listen guys/gals,

I have an extra copy of "Color Atlas of Anatomy (A photographic study of the human body) which is one of the required texts and from what I hear an awesome companion to Netter cuz Netter is drawings but this one by Rohen is actual cadaver pictures.

Anyway, if anyone wants to buy this one used from me rather than drop $$$ new lemme know...PM me and it's all yours. 👍

i'll hook it up
 
Ryan said:
Hey!

Today was pretty fun eh?! Anyhow, I say we all meet at lunch or break tomorrow. How about next to the planter by the stairwell/commons area at lunchtime? Bring a friend or two and introduce them to the love that is SDN!

Sound good?

-Ryan
Oh yea ... lunch with the Faculty thing is going on... well I don't know how long we will actually have lunch ... perhaps we will just get together for poker... LLP how many people can you fit at your place? 😀
 
the whole D.O. class
 
sounds like this poker game isn't every organized...no one knows what's going on.
 
friedcfood said:
sounds like this poker game isn't every organized...no one knows what's going on.

We're just preparin' you for the rest of your unorganized lifestyle yet to come. We're on for 8ish.

Those who need it all got my # I assume.
 
Does anybody have any idea how to convert that MS1 core schedule WORD FILE into a format (.dba i'm guessin') where we can have it in our palm OS calendar?

I don't mean Pocket PC cuz I know you can just run Microsoft Word on those but I mean actual Palm OS.

Thanks!
 
Damn that is a long list. Some people can get by with just Netter's, but sometimes it's nice to have a little more, especially because it may help study for boards later. Let me include a few things that I thought helped or would've helped (based on personal experience):

Anatomy: Yeah, just Netter. (There is sometimes a CD version of this floating around just in case you don't have your book with you, but the book is ultimately easier on the eyes.) You can borrow Moore from the library because those blue clinical boxes are kinda nice. Rohen's dead body book was useful for practicals as well.

Biochem: Lippincott's is useful if you want. Some used BRS Biochem. A few used the Mark's book although it wasn't necessary.

Clinical Med: You can borrow/view Bate's Physical Exam book from the library if you need to. There are plenty of online resources as well, so no need to buy this unless you really want to.

Embryo: Moore and Persuad's book is pretty good to help out or you can use your own embryology/developmental bio books.

Histo: Just memorization. Nothing is necessary.

Microbio: Some used "Microbio made ridiculously simple/easy", but others just used pure memorization or used their old college texts. Levinson and Jawetz's Medical Microbio and Immunology is a nice book for classes and boards, but it is a luxury. Take a peek if you want in the bookstore or library.

OMM: No need for a textbook although the Foundations of Osteopathic Medicine (FOM) book can be found in the library and bookstore for referencing. It does help explain a few things here and there, but you should have plenty of help already from the faculty and fellows.

Path: Robbin's Pathology is the standard text. Some will get the big book which does help although it includes a lot of extra detailed information that you may not use unless you are using it for reference or for studying for USMLE's. There is also a question book you can get separately that may help for boards.

Pharm: Lippincott book is alright for this to fill in some blanks. Take a peek in the bookstore. Didn't have to use much really because they usually test you on what is in the notes.

Stedman's: Get it on CD from someone and install it on your computer. I used this program countless times.

Webpath: This will also get passed around eventually in CD. Very very useful to have.

Equipment: Don't need anything right now, but later when you are volunteering for different organizations, it is nice to have a few things. You'll have your jackets already, so a few extra things that would be nice to have now or into your second year include:

- stethoscope (can be used as reflex hammer as well)
- penlight
- Maxwell's reference (small, cheap pocketbook you'll use throughout rotations. No need to get it now, but it has lots of useful info so take a peek at it. Also includes snellen chart)
- Tarascon Pharmacopeia (cheap and quick pharm reference that everyone uses, but it gets updated every year so if you have something else to look up drugs in, no need to get this now.)
- All the other stuff like otoscope, ophthalmoscope, BP cuff are optional. They are nice to have for yourself when whatever organization you are volunteering doesn't have much equipment, but otherwise you can get away with sharing. Most likely won't need it on rotations as clinics and hospitals will have this stuff already.
- Spanish guide: kind of nice to have one, but it does you no good unless you get to practice Spanish somewhere (and you usually learn by necessity.. esp. in this region.)

Hope that helps. Some of my info may be outdated so hopefully others who are "fresher" can give you a more updated perspective, but maybe things have changed too much. Heard you guys started orientation on Wednesday so good luck and have as much fun as possible because once the classes start piling up, you don't want to get behind!

Melancholy

coolness said:
Of the following textbooks, which one(s) do you recommend buying. I talked to some MSIIs and MSIVs and they indicated that I should only buy "NETTER: Atlas of Human Anatomy" for Anatomy.

ANATOMY * DORLAND: Illustrated Medical Dictionary
* STEDMANS: Medical Dictionary
* WEIR: Imaging Atlas of Human Anatomy
* LUMLEY: Surface Anatomy
* MOORE: Clinically Oriented Anatomy
* NETTER: Atlas of Human Anatomy
* SAUERLAND: Grant's Dissector

BIOCHEMISTRY * MARKS: Basic Medical Biochemistry

ESSENTIALS OF * BICKLEY: Bates' Guide to Physical Examination & History
CLINICAL Taking
MEDICINE * TIERNEY: Current Medical Diagnosis and Treatment
* STEIN: Rapid Analysis of Electrocardiograms
* SEIDEL: Mosby's Guide to Physical Examination
* FERRI: Practical Guide to the Care of the Medical Patient

EMBRYOLOGY * MOORE: The Developing Human

HISTOLOGY * GARTNER: Color Atlas of Histology
* JUNQUEIRA: Basic Histology

MICROBIOLOGY * MURRAY: Medical Microbiology

OSTEOPATHIC * HOPPENFELD: Physical Exam Spine & Extremities
MANIPULATIVE * WARD: Foundations for Osteopathic Medicine
MEDICINE

PATHOLOGY * KUMAR: Pathologic Basis of Disease

PHARMACOLOGY * KATZUNG: Basic and Clinical Pharmacology

Also, should us MSIs buy the following instruments/equipment:

* stethoscope
* sphygmomanometer set
* pen light
* pocket snellen chart
* opthalmoscope
* otoscope with insufflator and disposable ear speculums (adult and pediatric)
* tongue blades (depressors) - wrapped, disposable
* tuning forks 128 Hz (or 256 Hz) and 512 Hz
* reflex hammer
* short clinic jacket
* ID tag
* black-ink permanent pen
* equipment bag

Thanks!
 
I'm very excited about our new class. Everyone that I've talked to in orientation seemed very nice, intelligent, and came from a variety of interesting backgrounds. I'm not sure about other med schools but somehow I feel that our class is as good as it comes(if not better) in terms of interesting and intelligent folks(on a side note, physically attracitve too) And the admin staff is also as friendly(and funny?) as they come. The professors seem great so far but I guess I won't know untill classes take off and fly high for a bit.

Does anyone feel the same?

And they say we're the best class that the school has had so far? Based on what? MCAT and GPA? Does anyone know?
 
Jinyaoysiu said:
And they say we're the best class that the school has had so far? Based on what? MCAT and GPA? Does anyone know?

I think (I have no basis, but this is what I inferred from today's speech) that it has to do with the number of students holding advanced degrees (among other things I am sure).

Honestly though, I am sure they say that to every entering class to help them feel at ease with one another and to get everyone started on the right foot -- which it clearly did.

By the way LLP, thanks for being a gracious host and offering us your spot for cards. I had a great time even though I got schooled, but it was fast and furious, just the way I like it!
 
Yea thanks LLP it was cool. At least I lasted longer than JMC even though I'm a beginner. 😉
 
Thanks melancholy for your in-depth response!
 
No problem fellas

Mi casa Su Casa

Everyone is more than welcome whenever they are in town to cruise on over.

Now it's time to get our money back from Pre-Dr. Don Juan Demarco

:laugh:
 
LifeLongPassion said:
No problem fellas

Mi casa Su Casa

Everyone is more than welcome whenever they are in town to cruise on over.

Now it's time to get our money back from Pre-Dr. Don Juan Demarco

:laugh:
hey LifeLongPassion, for sure man, thanks for being an awesome host. You rock! and to everyone else, thank you for donating to a good cause....the Dr. DOn Scholarship fund, now I just have to try to win a few more tourneys so that I can get all the 33 something Gs to cover tuition 😉 . But on the real, I had a great time and you know I'm always down to get-together, of course, gotta prioritize the studies though 👍 Maybe next time Ryan can come, well that is if the wife lets him :laugh: So did you guys buy your books? I spent over $500 (well $440, thanks to your kind donations 😀 ) in books, and I still need to get two more :wow: . well I'll be reviewing some cell membrane stuff over the weekend, and some anatomy, if anyone is an expert in these subjects, call me so that I can pick your brain 🙂, have a safe and relaxing weekend, because it might be our last!
 
u spent 450
do the math hot shot 😛
 
Melon... Thank you so much for your in-depth response. We 1st years really appriciate it!!

Dr. Don... Just you wait until that little one comes in December... he he he... 😛

You will be doing this...
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and this...
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and this...
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all at the same time.... and the rest of us will be doing this...
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while laughing at you kinda like this...
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Thanks LLP for host the game...awesome host.
Last weekend before school starts...enjoy it while you can.
see you all monday! 👍
 
Here's my observations for this orientation week:

1) people are already forming their little "groups" on the first day...it's unfortunate because I think this hampers their abilities to meet others, learn about others, and developing friendship
2) most of the females in all the programs (D.O., Pharm D, etc.) are either married, engaged, or taken...vs. many males in all the programs are single
3) people in general were friendly
4) I think that by working in groups in anatomy, all of us will have opportunities to interact with others
5) I, unfortunately, met some in the nursing program that was not very friendly

What were some of your experiences during the first week? I hope it was more positive than mine.
 
more observations....

- Dr. Pumerantz was awesome...unbelievably friendly...I can't believe he's open to students calling him and visiting him at his residence
- I thought the ice cream social event was the best thing during the orientation because all the students from all the programs had the opportunity to meet each other in a social setting. During the stressful semester, students from each program might not have time to socialize with each other.
- Having approximately 65 clubs is an awesome thing because we need avenues to decrease our stress levels.
 
Ryan said:
Melon... Thank you so much for your in-depth response. We 1st years really appriciate it!!

Dr. Don... Just you wait until that little one comes in December... he he he... 😛

You will be doing this...
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and this...
4_9_9.gif
and this...
4_6_100.gif
all at the same time.... and the rest of us will be doing this...
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while laughing at you kinda like this...
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you are a trip man, awesome smileys...and you might be right hehehehe. See you all next week.
 
coolness said:
Here's my observations for this orientation week:

1) people are already forming their little "groups" on the first day...it's unfortunate because I think this hampers their abilities to meet others, learn about others, and developing friendship
2) most of the females in all the programs (D.O., Pharm D, etc.) are either married, engaged, or taken...vs. many males in all the programs are single
3) people in general were friendly
4) I think that by working in groups in anatomy, all of us will have opportunities to interact with others
5) I, unfortunately, met some in the nursing program that was not very friendly

What were some of your experiences during the first week? I hope it was more positive than mine.
I thought the orientation has been going well so far. Everyone I met was cool and the professors seem like they know their stuff. I just want classes to start already.
 
Sense said:
I thought the orientation has been going well so far. Everyone I met was cool and the professors seem like they know their stuff. I just want classes to start already.

You want classes to start already? Ask and you shall receive (although you may wish you had a little extra time to relax).

It varies from class to class, but sometimes there are a lot of students who are already engaged, married, in relationships, etc. Shouldn't be too surprising. It takes some time before everyone figures out who is available, but the first semester is pretty hectic (let alone the first year) so too much socializing can bite you in the ass later.

I don't remember them mentioning my previous class (DO 2005) during orientation week as being the "best" entering class or anything, so it may mean something if they are saying it. Beats me.

Once things get busy, everyone in every program does get pretty busy, but PharmD program usually starts up slower so they have more time to hang out. They actually have more time than some of the other programs as well. During the course of the year, you'll find it may take more effort to meet people from other programs... either by working with different clubs/organizations or just randomly around campus. It is worthwhile though because it provides some variety after seeing the same DO classmates day in and day out. As far as the nursing class goes, it never is that big and you won't see them on campus too much.

I remember that first orientation day when we were all sitting in the long classroom in the HSC building with all the other programs that day... people were already trying to check out the other folks in the other programs.. how funny.

Good luck with the white coat ceremony. It is a fun experience and you should enjoy it even though it will be hot. Wish I were there to greet all of y'all!
 
coolness said:
Here's my observations for this orientation week:

1) people are already forming their little "groups" on the first day...it's unfortunate because I think this hampers their abilities to meet others, learn about others, and developing friendship
2) most of the females in all the programs (D.O., Pharm D, etc.) are either married, engaged, or taken...vs. many males in all the programs are single
3) people in general were friendly
4) I think that by working in groups in anatomy, all of us will have opportunities to interact with others
5) I, unfortunately, met some in the nursing program that was not very friendly

What were some of your experiences during the first week? I hope it was more positive than mine.

I know that most of the ISACers are keeping in a group because we have already been so close for the summer. I don't think we've met coolness! If you come up to me I'll definitely say hi but I'm really shy around people I've never met so orientation was kinda scary. I didn't talk to many new people because I'm still sussing out my classmates. Everyone in ISAC is extremely cool and I'm sure the whole class will come into its own groove soon enough.

See ya'll on monday!
 
Today was just an awesome day! We've all dreamed about this day where we would be cloaked with the white coat. I was so nervous before stepping on stage. My heart was pounding a thousand times per minute. I enjoyed the convocation because it allowed us D.O. students to be in the same room as students from the nursing, PA, vet, pharmacy, and PT programs. I especially enjoyed hearing from the deans from the other various programs. I totally agree that all of us form a team in the health professions community and cannot achieve our goals without one another. The Bridges Auditorium was fairly hot. Someone mentioned that the building does not have AC. It was unfortunate that they did not even allow us to bring water inside. As time goes by, I especially enjoy the comraderie that is forming between the D.O. students. The interim dean of the D.O. program still amazes me with his eloquent speeches. After the convocation and white coat ceremony, my family and I went to the BBQ on-campus. I was pleasantly surprised to see the various booths advertising their products and services. I especially enjoyed eating ice cream in this hot weather! Too bad we ran out of biscuits and salads. It was good that we arrived fairly early because the food ran out at around 1:30 PM. Many people left at that time. Well, sometimes when I have experiences during my medical education that are interesting, I will definitely post them up and share them with all of you guys. I look forward to seeing all of you guys Monday morning, the beginning of our medical education! Go D.O. Class of 2008!!!!
 
coolness said:
Here's my observations for this orientation week:

1) people are already forming their little "groups" on the first day...it's unfortunate because I think this hampers their abilities to meet others, learn about others, and developing friendship
2) most of the females in all the programs (D.O., Pharm D, etc.) are either married, engaged, or taken...vs. many males in all the programs are single
3) people in general were friendly
4) I think that by working in groups in anatomy, all of us will have opportunities to interact with others
5) I, unfortunately, met some in the nursing program that was not very friendly

What were some of your experiences during the first week? I hope it was more positive than mine.


First, it's great to see this discussion line here...first time reading this thing.

As for people forming "groups"...I personally have continuously met new people in our class who are all very nice and very cool. Although with 200 some odd people to meet I still have a long way to go before meeting everyone. Even people who seem to be forming groups seem very nice and open. I look forward to the year and I also thank melancholy for her excellent book advice.

COMP 2008
 
Welcome asyoung.

Even in this orientation week I noticed lots of people from our class browsing these forums and I don't think they post. We have an audience that we don't know about, so watch what you post. 😉
 
Sense is right. Even though these forums are anonymous, it is still best to watch what you say. But even sometimes, I'll post something that might cause controversy and others to flame me. However, I feel strongly about certain things.

It would be nice if others in our class would post, but hey, it's their choice. Maybe they're shy or doesn't have much to say. I got to admit though that for the first few weeks, I'm going to class from 8 to 5. Then I'll determine which classes are worthwhile to attend. But I think that I'll attend all the labs, because hands-on experiences help me learn better than from just reading from the textbook.

Are you guys going to bring lunch and put them in the refrigerator(s) in the cafeteria or are you guys going out to eat? I can't imagine eating at subway, kfc (next to the plaza apartments) and quizno for the whole week. I'm trying to eat healthier by buying more fruits and vegetables (e.g. substituting salads instead of burgers).
 
oh, okay. Guilty as charged. I am one of those who browse, but doesn't post much. I am a non-trad so, I am cruising in that forum usually.

So, hello everyone!! Today was nice! Felt I had an opportunity to talk to people more...instead of sitting in a lecture hall having to be quiet. Hopefully in lab classes we will be able to talk and get to know each other better! 👍 It looks like the MSII's have a pretty good bond. Hopefully, our class will be like that.

See you guys Monday early in da morning 😱
 
DrDOdo said:
oh, okay. Guilty as charged. I am one of those who browse, but doesn't post much. I am a non-trad so, I am cruising in that forum usually.

So, hello everyone!! Today was nice! Felt I had an opportunity to talk to people more...instead of sitting in a lecture hall having to be quiet. Hopefully in lab classes we will be able to talk and get to know each other better! 👍 It looks like the MSII's have a pretty good bond. Hopefully, our class will be like that.

See you guys Monday early in da morning 😱
It's cool DrDOdo. Welcome also. 👍
 
coolness said:
Are you guys going to bring lunch and put them in the refrigerator(s) in the cafeteria or are you guys going out to eat? I can't imagine eating at subway, kfc (next to the plaza apartments) and quizno for the whole week. I'm trying to eat healthier by buying more fruits and vegetables (e.g. substituting salads instead of burgers).

I *plan* on bringing my lunch. That's dependent on me making the time to make dinner fairly often too. I'm also trying to be healthier. Historically I haven't eaten the healthiest food. We'll see how long that lasts.

COMP 2008
 
reading the backlogs I noticed a lot of talk of hold 'em .... can a Texan get in on this next time around?

See everyone tommorrow.
 
hello all, new and old SDNer's. The White Coat Ceremony was just awesome. I felt so energized after it and really looking forward to classes. I realize that this is only the beginning and 4 years later will be the "real" deal.....when we will finally go into the wards and be the best doctors we can be. I also haven't met everyone, but it's ok....with 207 students I know it will take some time. It was great hearing where everyone was from and their creative ways of putting it....I specially liked LifeLongPassion's....really cool bro, be proud of those "roots". Alright, gots to go and asyoung....well everyone is welcome to a little hold'em. I'll try to organize something at my apartment too, specially sooner than later, because once exams start....I'm sure it will be a little difficult....maybe we can set up some sort of study group session on a friday night, just to review what we covered that week and then after it we can do a little hold'em.....just and idea....alright peeps, take care and see you all tomorrow.
 
asyoung said:
reading the backlogs I noticed a lot of talk of hold 'em .... can a Texan get in on this next time around?

See everyone tommorrow.
by the way, take it easy on us....a texas, playing texas hold'em...scary fellas 😉
 
coolness said:
Are you guys going to bring lunch and put them in the refrigerator(s) in the cafeteria or are you guys going out to eat? I can't imagine eating at subway, kfc (next to the plaza apartments) and quizno for the whole week. I'm trying to eat healthier by buying more fruits and vegetables (e.g. substituting salads instead of burgers).


bringing a lunch is such a good idea because who really wants to eat sodium fresh chicken or taco bell right before lab? i do wonder how long it will take to nuke our food with all the people there. it's pretty easy to make something big like lasagna on sunday and then just bring it the next week.
 
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