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[bkpa2med]

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What MCAT would be needed with a ~3.6 GPA, and ~3.4 BCP GPA to be competitive? 😀

 

[docmd2010]

What MCAT would be needed with a ~3.6 GPA, and ~3.4 BCP GPA to be competitive? 😀

i'd say with a 25 or 26 you'd get into a lot of schools

 

[Kevbot]

What MCAT would be needed with a ~3.6 GPA, and ~3.4 BCP GPA to be competitive? 😀

27+ if the definition of competetive is getting an acceptance before winter break

 

[dr.z]

27 and higher.

 

[bkpa2med]

Thank you for the replies. Howabout 3.3GPA and 3.1 BCP ??

 

[laboholic]

Thank you for the replies. Howabout 3.3GPA and 3.1 BCP ??

I have about those same stats with a 28 MCAT and i am planning on getting into ALL of my choices! Hope that helps 😀

 

[bkpa2med]

That's good to hear. How many interviews?

 

[laboholic]

Just one MD interview so far, but i only recently got my DO apps complete so im sure it will be at least a month or so b4 i get DO interviews

 

[bkpa2med]

Good luck my friend on all your interviews!

 

[smc927]

What MCAT would be needed with a ~3.6 GPA, and ~3.4 BCP GPA to be competitive? 😀

To which school? They are all so variable. Check each schools average acceptance MCAT and GPA, or go to medschoolstats.com where they have them all together. Then you'll know where you fit in.

 

[OSUdoc08]

What MCAT would be needed with a ~3.6 GPA, and ~3.4 BCP GPA to be competitive? 😀

24 for DO schools

 

[DD214_DOC]

What MCAT would be needed with a ~3.6 GPA, and ~3.4 BCP GPA to be competitive? 😀

I have a 3.3 and 3.4 with a 25 and so far nothing.

 

[OSUdoc08]

I have a 3.3 and 3.4 with a 25 and so far nothing.

I got into AZCOM & KCOM with similar stats.

Did you apply there?

 

[DD214_DOC]

I got into AZCOM & KCOM with similar stats.

Did you apply there?

Nope, one of the few I didn't apply to. I think something subtle is holding me back, but I'm not sure what.

 

[ryan483]

Just so you guys know, I got a 23 on my MCATS and had a 3.9 GPA. So far I've gotten accepted to every DO school I interviewed at. It seems that MCAT isn't as important as I originally thought.

 

[SigPi]

Just so you guys know, I got a 23 on my MCATS and had a 3.9 GPA. So far I've gotten accepted to every DO school I interviewed at. It seems that MCAT isn't as important as I originally thought.

No offense, but that is sad. I think think that one should at least have to hit or exceed the 50th percentile to be seriously considered. You have a 3.9 college GPA, I'm sure you could have pulled a 25+ with EASE. Just my $0.02. Oh well, congrats on the acceptances!

 

[nev]

But TCOM always requires higher scores ,right?

 

[strawberryfield]

I would think at least a 24-25, with some dedicated ECs and a nice personality you'd be solid. That's average or slightly above.
That's one thing I love about most of the DO schools... they actually want to accept people that are compassionate and outgoing! Even if your scores are not sky high...IMAGINE THAT!?!?!
😉

 

[LusuR]

What do you guys think about this?:
I have a 3.9 and a 29 (9p, 10v, 10b) on the MCAT, but a big fat L (which stands for "Loser") on the MCAT writing sample. That puts me in the lower 5th percentile for writing scores. Butt I no im a good at writter!!

How much does this hurt my chances? Thanks for your help.


*$&%#ing writing sample......

 

[Canuck99]

24 for DO schools

that would be my guess as well. you may even have a good shot at many schools with 22+, given that the rest of your application is solid. I have said this before, getting into med school is a big crap shoot. there are so many things that factor in to the entire process, some of them being quite ridiculous. thats my two cents, good luck.

 

[laboholic]

What do you guys think about this?:
I have a 3.9 and a 29 (9p, 10v, 10b) on the MCAT, but a big fat L (which stands for "Loser") on the MCAT writing sample. That puts me in the lower 5th percentile for writing scores. Butt I no im a good at writter!!

How much does this hurt my chances? Thanks for your help.


*$&%#ing writing sample......

probably wont make any difference seeing as you got a 10V

 

[USArmyDoc]

No offense, but that is sad. I think think that one should at least have to hit or exceed the 50th percentile to be seriously considered. You have a 3.9 college GPA, I'm sure you could have pulled a 25+ with EASE. Just my $0.02. Oh well, congrats on the acceptances!

I am not sure if I totally agree with you. Allopathic medical schools take kids with 24's each year. Granted they are the minority though.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I am not sure if I totally agree with you. Allopathic medical schools take kids with 24's each year. Granted they are the minority though.

yep, i've known people who've gotten into allopathic schools with those stats. and, no, they weren't urms.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

That puts me in the lower 5th percentile for writing scores. Butt I no im a good at writter!!

 

[Doctor Bagel]

How much does this hurt my chances? Thanks for your help.


*$&%#ing writing sample......

Bad handwriting? That's my excuse. 🙂

 

[Duchess]

No offense, but that is sad. I think think that one should at least have to hit or exceed the 50th percentile to be seriously considered. You have a 3.9 college GPA, I'm sure you could have pulled a 25+ with EASE. Just my $0.02. Oh well, congrats on the acceptances!

I don't agree with you on this one. I have known people with similar stats to that poster, and the fact that they got a lower MCAT score doesn't mean that they won't become amazing doctors. The two friends that I am thinking of got accepted into both MD and DO schools, by the way.

Keep in mind that some people are not good at standardized tests. However, that doesn't mean that they won't be able to handle the courseload in medical school, or that they won't be successful doctors.

 

[laboholic]

Bad handwriting? That's my excuse. 🙂

I think bad writting skills are a prereq for being a physician... seriously, have you ever been able to actually make out the handwriting on a prescription or nurse orders??

 

[PittMedicine]

I recieved 7VR, 12PS and 11BS. I'm applying DO as a backup. I know a lot about its practice and shadowed a DO in high school. My GPA is 4.0 (I earned every point).

I have no post-secondary experiences w/ osteopathy though. Will it hurt me?

 

[PittMedicine]

I recieved 7VR, 12PS and 11BS. I'm applying DO as a backup. I know a lot about its practice and shadowed a DO in high school. My GPA is 4.0 (I earned every point).

I have no post-secondary experiences w/ osteopathy though. Will it hurt me?

 

[USArmyDoc]

I recieved 7VR, 12PS and 11BS. I'm applying DO as a backup. I know a lot about its practice and shadowed a DO in high school. My GPA is 4.0 (I earned every point).

I have no post-secondary experiences w/ osteopathy though. Will it hurt me?

Don't apply DO 😉 I still find it hard to believe that someone has the nerve to walk in here and act like a douche. I guess its just people.

 

[Kevbot]

Don't apply DO 😉 I still find it hard to believe that someone has the nerve to walk in here and act like a douche. I guess its just people.

Agreed. DO schools don't like sloppy seconds. They might reject you no matter what your gpa is if they find out that DO is your backup plan.

 

[strawberryfield]

Seriously, if you don't really want to be a DO then don't apply... you'll only be setting yourself up for dissapointment.

You don't want to be telling yourself for the rest of your life "I should have gone MD" if that's the way you feel.

You should apply to schools that you would actually want to go to... and do what you have to do to get in. Re-take the mcat and try for a higher verbal score if you think that would help you. Some schools take the highest score in each section... it would show that you are trying.

You shouldn't have to resign yourself to doing a "backup" plan if that's all it is to you.
🙄

 

[OSUdoc08]

Agreed. DO schools don't like sloppy seconds. They might reject you no matter what your gpa is if they find out that DO is your backup plan.

Not true. A significant percentage of DO applicants have applied to MD schools as their first choice. When informed of this fact, the acceptance rate to the DO schools does not change.

 

[ExtraAverage]

What do you guys think about this?:
I have a 3.9 and a 29 (9p, 10v, 10b) on the MCAT, but a big fat L (which stands for "Loser") on the MCAT writing sample. That puts me in the lower 5th percentile for writing scores. Butt I no im a good at writter!!

How much does this hurt my chances? Thanks for your help.


*$&%#ing writing sample......

I wouldn't be too worried. There's a reason the writing sample score is a letter and not a number 😎

 

[Plinko]

But TCOM always requires higher scores ,right?

I believe the average MCAT for the MS 1s was ~28. It's been going up about .5 a year for the last four years. Just my opinion, but TCOM since I was accepted back in the Stone Age has gotten more and more allopathic in their thinking when it comes to admissions. That probably has to do with them recently extricating themselves from the national DO admissions process and going with the entirely allopathic TMDSAS in-state admissions process. Now everyone that would have never applied to a DO school just has to check one more box next to UT-Southwestern, Texas Tech, Texas A&M etc. on a computer screen. Most do and end up interviewing, liking the school, enrolling, etc. If you are applying to TCOM, my advice is to view it almost as attempting to gain acceptance into an allopathic school, at least within the context of Texas.

 

[dr_keki]

Why is everyone so harsh on PittMedicine? Most applicants on this forum apply to both MD and DO schools and there's nothing wrong with having some safety schools because he/she wants to be a doctor! Dont be so quick to judge others. I think your MCAT score is good...just read up more on osteopathic philosophy and you should be fine.

 

[MikeyLu2010]

anyone else filled out AACOMAS, TMDSAS, and AMCAS??? makes me exhausted just thinking of it....but i agree..most people apply to both MD and DO schools..i think people are harsh on Pittmedicine because of the tone of his response..seems condescending to me...just my 2 pennies

 

[PittMedicine]

Why is everyone so harsh on PittMedicine? Most applicants on this forum apply to both MD and DO schools and there's nothing wrong with having some safety schools because he/she wants to be a doctor! Dont be so quick to judge others. I think your MCAT score is good...just read up more on osteopathic philosophy and you should be fine.

Thank you.

 

[strawberryfield]

Why is everyone so harsh on PittMedicine? Most applicants on this forum apply to both MD and DO schools and there's nothing wrong with having some safety schools because he/she wants to be a doctor! Dont be so quick to judge others. I think your MCAT score is good...just read up more on osteopathic philosophy and you should be fine.

I also applied both MD and DO... neither is a backup, rather specific schools (both MD and DO) are backups... not either program.
I looked at the schools and thought about if they would be a good fit for me, but that's just the way I think of it though, so...
😕

I really just think if you're going to apply DO, then it better be alright with you to actually BE ONE!!! Right? 😉

 

[mx_599]

What MCAT would be needed with a ~3.6 GPA, and ~3.4 BCP GPA to be competitive? 😀

i plugged in a few numbers on my MCAT calculator program i made in excel and it says 27.8

 

[mx_599]

Thank you for the replies. Howabout 3.3GPA and 3.1 BCP ??

according to my program....29.3

 

[TAI786]

JKD:
Your stats are on par with what some D.O. schools are looking for, unless there's something terribly lacking in your application (you would know better than anyone else) I'd expect you to start getting interviews/acceptances soon enough

Ryan:
I wouldn't say that the MCAT is "not that important". When you nail a GPA like a 3.9, it balances out a low MCAT score. I know people that got a 3.5 (still a strong GPA) and a 21 on the MCAT and they were rejected everywhere they applied. On the flip side, I know people with mediocre GPAs and great MCAT scores and they got in almost everywhere they applied.

Lusur:
I think they start looking at the writing section more towards the end of the elimination process (borderline cases), with stats as strong as your's you don't have to worry about being in that group. So I wouldn't lose any sleep over a low writing score.

 

[ryan483]

I took the MCATS in Newcastle, UK because I was studying abroad in Northern Ireland.

No offense, but that is sad. I think think that one should at least have to hit or exceed the 50th percentile to be seriously considered. You have a 3.9 college GPA, I'm sure you could have pulled a 25+ with EASE. Just my $0.02. Oh well, congrats on the acceptances!

 

[dave613]

What would you guys say about a 26 MCAT and 3.8 gpa(bio major), would that be considered competitive before winter break?

 

[Taus]

What would you guys say about a 26 MCAT and 3.8 gpa(bio major), would that be considered competitive before winter break?

In all honesty.....for DO schools you should be in good shape if everything else is solid in your application...however...for MD/PhD programs.....I think that may be very difficult w/ your MCAT...not impossible....but I would say its a longshot...just my opinion though...nothing that anyone can tell you here is an absolute...

 

[DarkWingDuck]

What do you guys think about this?:
I have a 3.9 and a 29 (9p, 10v, 10b) on the MCAT, but a big fat L (which stands for "Loser") on the MCAT writing sample. That puts me in the lower 5th percentile for writing scores. Butt I no im a good at writter!!

How much does this hurt my chances? Thanks for your help.


*$&%#ing writing sample......

My stats are similar to yours and I scored in like the 1.5- 2.5 percentile range in the writing section(your gpa is better). I was really worried that I would be grilled about it in interviews but it never came up. Even when the MCAT was discussed in my interviews the topic never came up. They don't look at it.

P.S. The 9 year old younger brother of DWD wrote this.

 

[dave613]

In all honesty.....for DO schools you should be in good shape if everything else is solid in your application...however...for MD/PhD programs.....I think that may be very difficult w/ your MCAT...not impossible....but I would say its a longshot...just my opinion though...nothing that anyone can tell you here is an absolute...

Hi taus,

yeah, i've came to the decision that MD/PhD might be a long shot, but i will be retaking the mcat in april to see if i can score higher. Currently, if my grades don't change, I would be interested in applying to DO/PhD programs, especially UMDNJ's program. In terms of the rest of my application, i have done a couple of year's worth of research, editor in chief of a school publication, and vp of an organization...i think my extracurriculars are fine.

 

[Taus]

dave- sounds like you're in good shape w/ this and are headed in the right direction...good luck

 

[docmd2010]

according to my program....29.3

according to my calculator, with a 3.1, you will need a 62 on your mcat...

 

[drjds]

I also applied both MD and DO... neither is a backup, rather specific schools (both MD and DO) are backups... not either program.
I looked at the schools and thought about if they would be a good fit for me, but that's just the way I think of it though, so...
😕

I really just think if you're going to apply DO, then it better be alright with you to actually BE ONE!!! Right? 😉

I agree