Concern about anti-lgbt behavior

[Drogba]

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I learned that the word is considered more derogatory than other similar words from this thread. I suspect that there are many people more ignorant than I.

I actually thought that "queer" was the most derogatory term, although recently I have become aware of the fact that some use the term to self identify, although perhaps this is like the "n word" in that it depends on from whom the word was spoken ? 😕

Anyway, I am happy that I came across thread, as I will now be cautious to not to drop the f bomb on anyone who may be offended.

Other similar words that you wouldn't use to address people in any case, right? Just because you thought queer was the most derogatory doesn't mean you went around calling people "fags." If you never called anyone by either of those terms no one would be worse off.

 

[Moshe Rabbenu]

I don't know how people take being called something that derrogatory. I'm religious, but if I hear someone make an anti-Semitic remark (which has happened a few times just this year), they'd better hope I'm not within arm's reach.

Personally, I probably would have called him out on it and then talked to other students to see if that is the general culture of the school. I don't think I would even have thought to equate that event with the school being anti-homosexual, but that's just me. I've experienced anti-Semitism a few times at Rutgers, but I don't consider it to be an anti-Semitic school; there are just a few stupid *******s that go there who need an old fashioned Jewish asskicking .

 

[135892]

I learned that the word is considered more derogatory than other similar words from this thread. I suspect that there are many people more ignorant than I.

I actually thought that "queer" was the most derogatory term, although recently I have become aware of the fact that some use the term to self identify, although perhaps this is like the "n word" in that it depends on from whom the word was spoken ? 😕

Anyway, I am happy that I came across thread, as I will now be cautious to not to drop the f bomb on anyone who may be offended.

Anything you say will be considered offensive by some overly sensitive person out there

I've had rude things said to me before, but I really couldn't care less

 

[Textuality]

Anything you say will be considered offensive by some overly sensitive person out there

I've had rude things said to me before, but I really couldn't care less

Haha, as a "cute" asian girl that's walked alone in the streets of Baltimore to get to work, I've definitely shrugged off some rude (and downright vulgar) comments. I certainly don't stop in the street and make a big fuss.

But I do think if I heard one of my peers say something similar, I'd be a little more incensed.

Likewise, I've had things shouted at me and past girlfriends when we went out together, and it was annoying, but we just ignored it. But when it was classmates (and sometimes even teachers) it definitely was harder to shrug it off, and sometimes I just couldn't help letting them know they were being inappropriate.

 

[WinterLights]

Anything you say will be considered offensive by some overly sensitive person out there

I've had rude things said to me before, but I really couldn't care less

Someone saying something rude to you is not the same as someone saying something to you that caresses a nerve within. I fail to see why you would be trying to give someone advice if you do not have any experience with the situation described.

 

[Cegar]

Someone saying something rude to you is not the same as someone saying something to you that caresses a nerve within. I fail to see why you would be trying to give someone advice if you do not have any experience with the situation described.

Probably because the OP asked for advice.

 

[nutrition]

I don't know how people take being called something that derrogatory. I'm religious, but if I hear someone make an anti-Semitic remark (which has happened a few times just this year), they'd better hope I'm not within arm's reach.

Personally, I probably would have called him out on it and then talked to other students to see if that is the general culture of the school. I don't think I would even have thought to equate that event with the school being anti-homosexual, but that's just me. I've experienced anti-Semitism a few times at Rutgers, but I don't consider it to be an anti-Semitic school; there are just a few stupid *******s that go there who need an old fashioned Jewish asskicking .

One of my suitemates in the dorms always made anti-semitic comments. Even though I am not Jewish, it always really bothered me. I really hope he gets his a*s handed to him for that by some Jewish dude one day.

 

[InfinitePour]

On a related note, why is disapproving of homosexual acts such a faux pas?


I eat meat, and vegetarians have let me know how they feel about it quite a few times.

 

[135892]

Someone saying something rude to you is not the same as someone saying something to you that caresses a nerve within. I fail to see why you would be trying to give someone advice if you do not have any experience with the situation described.

Well maybe people need to work on their overly sensitive nerves...

But honestly, I have absolutely nothing against people that are different than me. However, getting back to the original topic, going to the admissions director over some insensitive comment that one student made, probably in jest, is ridiculous in my opinion. I would even venture to guess that this guy isn't some homophobe, but is used to just joking around about stuff like this (whether right or wrong).

 

[riceman04]

Now wait just a minute. This person, according to the OP, said NOTHING about the person saying that being a '***' makes a person a bad/immoral person. And remember...this person was drunk, so he probably didn't even mean it, it probably just slipped out. If you don't want to be judged so quickly, then don't be so quick to judge others.

Have fun trying to save the world, one moderately offensive person at a time. I'll be busy turning the over cheek. I certainly am not going to be throwing any stones on this one; I've said plenty of offensive things that I regretted later.

you inhibitions are normally lowered when you drink, and thus you are less likely to be politically correct for the sake of the not being perceived as a total prejudiced/racist douche bag. I.E. you are more likely to say things you really mean!

 

[Textuality]

On a related note, why is disapproving of homosexual acts such a faux pas?


I eat meat, and vegetarians have let me know how they feel about it quite a few times.

Because some people consider sexual orientation not to be a choice (unlike being a meat eater or a vegetarian), but simply how they were born and something beyond their control.

Sure, they can choose to just not engage in any kind of sexual encounter at all and be celibate, but most people in general don't choose that path. And even if they were celibate, they'd still be homosexual, and I think most people disapprove as much of the orientation as the acts.

And while disapproving is entirely in your right, and your opinion, it's something different to throw around derogatory terms. For example, you can disapprove of pre-marital sexual activity and promote abstinence, but it's probably faux pas to call people ****** and such.

 

[pennquaker08]

 

[Tin Man]

Derogatory or not, it's something that the OP needs to get a thicker skin about.

If you're gay, expect gay jokes. If you're black, expect black jokes. If you're a woman, expect woman jokes. It's not a fair world, but if you don't learn to deal with it, then you'll find yourself pretty cold and lonely under that rock of yours.

It may not be a choice, but it doesn't mean that the people are going to change just because you express that you're upset about it. Isn't that kind of the point of the comment being "derogatory?" To acknowledge the comment as anything other than some drunken idiot making a comment is putting more thought into it than the person who said it did.

Learn to shrug it off, especially if you're going to be open about it. If you choose to show an opinion or openly be a certain person, then expect that to come under attack. So long as someone disagrees, there will always be conflict. It's human nature, and a bit naive to think that you can solve it by running and telling the teacher.

If you hide being gay, then the people will say the comments around you. I you are openly gay, then the people will say the comments to you. If you attack the commentors, then they'll just say it behind your back. The comments will always be there. If you try to make yourself stick out like crap in a punchbowl every time someone says something that brushes you the wrong way, you're in for some pretty tough times.

 

[Drogba]

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If you're gay, expect gay jokes. If you're black, expect black jokes. If you're a woman, expect woman jokes.
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If you are a white male expect to be a comedian.

 

[PeepshowJohnny]

Might as well learn to grin and bear it now.

The other week I overheard two senior attendings (one a director of a residency program) making anti-gay jokes in reference to HIV. It sucks, but there's not much you can do about it, i.e. any attempt to confront or discipline them would be a "he said she said" at best and end with you getting screwed over at the worst.

In your lifetrime, you'll probably never be able to escape prejudice. An unfortunate fact, but it's best not to let it dominate your life and the decisions you make.

 

[kedrin]

this thread is so gay

(what someone had to say it!)



dont bring it up until after you find out if you are in or not. Use your best judgement though on just how much **** are you willing to go through in order to confront this issue, once you do that you will probably realize it isnt worth the effort.

 

[JackDanielMD]

Soooo....... I really need to know, who am I still allowed to make fun of? Obviously, can't do it based on race or sexual orientation. Can I make fun of the following people, or would that violate SDN's TOS?:

Fatty
Baldy
Smells like a chimney
Sir Sweats A-Lot
Ms. I can't, for the love of god, put make-up on correctly
Guy that can't relate to modern fashion
International funny accent guy
Metrosexuals
Rednecks
Trailor Park Dwellers
Independent Voters (go ahead and throw your vote away)
Douch-bags in general
Cajuns
Bag-Pipe hoochies
Guy that can only speak in monotone voices
People who actually like British food
And Finally... The French

 

[Cegar]

Fatty is out.

 

[flaahless]

Derogatory or not, it's something that the OP needs to get a thicker skin about.

If you're gay, expect gay jokes. If you're black, expect black jokes. If you're a woman, expect woman jokes. It's not a fair world, but if you don't learn to deal with it, then you'll find yourself pretty cold and lonely under that rock of yours.

It may not be a choice, but it doesn't mean that the people are going to change just because you express that you're upset about it. Isn't that kind of the point of the comment being "derogatory?" To acknowledge the comment as anything other than some drunken idiot making a comment is putting more thought into it than the person who said it did.

Learn to shrug it off, especially if you're going to be open about it. If you choose to show an opinion or openly be a certain person, then expect that to come under attack. So long as someone disagrees, there will always be conflict. It's human nature, and a bit naive to think that you can solve it by running and telling the teacher.

If you hide being gay, then the people will say the comments around you. I you are openly gay, then the people will say the comments to you. If you attack the commentors, then they'll just say it behind your back. The comments will always be there. If you try to make yourself stick out like crap in a punchbowl every time someone says something that brushes you the wrong way, you're in for some pretty tough times.

If the jokes are disrespectful and/or derogatory. Expect to get dealt with.

 

[JackDanielMD]

Fatty is out.

But that's my favorite!

 

[Cegar]

This thread has reached a new level.

 

[AllAboutUCSF]

Do you remember Borat? A good rule of thumb is don't make fun of people for the characteristics they do not choose themselves.

Along with no making fun of sexual orientation or race, I propose no making fun of trans people either. Nor should you make fun of the poor, or Cajuns, which is typically a non-chosen group identity.

These ones should be okay to make fun of in a tactful way:
independent voters
guys that can't relate to fashion
girls who can't put on makeup
metrosexuals
rednecks
monotone voices
British food afficianados

The others are questionable. Never make fun of someone just to be mean.

 

[JackDanielMD]

Do you remember Borat? A good rule of thumb is don't make fun of people for the characteristics they do not choose themselves.

Along with no making fun of sexual orientation or race, I propose no making fun of trans people either. Nor should you make fun of the poor, or Cajuns, which is typically a non-chosen group identity.

These ones should be okay to make fun of in a tactful way:
independent voters
guys that can't relate to fashion
girls who can't put on makeup
metrosexuals
rednecks
monotone voices
British food afficianados

The others are questionable. Never make fun of someone just to be mean.

Dude, what is it with you and the trans people.... We get it. You are ALL about UCSF and you really care about trans people, however you don't have to include them in EVERYTHING you post about.

Also, The French....come on. The first thing I learned to say in French was "Can I join the French Army, I have my own white flag!"

 

[AllAboutUCSF]

🙁

 

[brianmartin]

I don't think you need to speak to administration about it. However, I hope you made him feel like an idiot. There is no point in appeasing these people. And if I were to see that kind of behaviour in a medical student I would be concerned that other students there have the same views. Perhaps it is a state school drawing from a population with a lot of dumb rich white kids who have no concept of diversity. I'm on the west coast so it's never been a problem but I can see some places where it might be. Think if he was a classmate, it would definitely be a bad situation.

You know after thinking about this for a while, I really would love to see this guy get reprimanded by the Dean. I mean, how unprofessional is it to spew homophobic garbage at possible incoming students. I mean, this guy is going to be a doctor? Wow...

You should have gotten a picture of him drunk, and put it on a poster with the caption "You're not a *** are you?" and put it all over the school 🙂

 

[VoiceofReason]

This particular context makes it seem offensive, at least to me. It varies from place to place. Where I come from people call each other f@ggots all the time, for anything. If you say something stupid, something gay, even something just funny, it gets said all the time. They'll call you gay, that gay, her gay, it gay, anything.

It's just the term that everyone uses instead of idiot, @sshole, etc.

"Haha, you f@ggot."
"What are you, gay?"

In the context that it is used where I live, it has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It's hard to say what was going on, since we weren't there, but consider that this person meant nothing by it.

 

[Abilene85]

Perhaps it is a state school drawing from a population with a lot of dumb rich white kids who have no concept of diversity............................You know after thinking about this for a while, I really would love to see this guy get reprimanded by the Dean. I mean, how unprofessional is it to spew homophobic garbage at possible incoming students. I mean, this guy is going to be a doctor? Wow...

1) I am only saying this because of the thread in which it was written - reading "dumb rich white kids who have no concept of diversity" rubbed me the wrong way. Can I go home and cry about it? Normally I would just brush it off and laugh, but if my close friend said it in all seriousness, I would make it clear that growing up in a nice neighborhood and getting a car for my 16th birthday does not mean that I lack an understanding of diversity. I just want to make sure you are aware of this so you don't offend any other rich white kids. But no one really cares of we get offended, do they?

2) OP, imagine a conversation with the Dean...
You: "Someone was a meanie at a drunken private party I attended after the interview. He asked if I was a f*g, and I didn't like it. I really don't think future physicians should use words like that."
Dean: "I agree that is a terrible thing to call someone. How did you handle the situaiton?"
You: "Um...I uh....ignored him and ran straight to you to tattle"

What do you think that would show about your character?

3) I still think we are jumping to conclusions about the party guy. I agree that the word is inappropriate to use in any context, but there are many ways in which someone can use the word without being a homophobe. I agree with InfinitePour that people should SAY SOMETHING if words bother them. You can't get upset if you stay quiet, because you never give them the opportunity to become educated on the matter and make a change. When I was younger, I used to call stuff "******ed" just as much as the next kid in my school. I never meant the word to be offensive toward the mentally-challenged, though I probably DID offend some people who just stayed quiet. One day a new acquaintance said "you know, you really shouldn't say things are '******ed.' I have a sibling with Downs Syndrome." Of course I felt like an @ss, but then I actively worked to remove the word from my vocabulary. If she hadn't TOLD ME that it was wrong (and no, I wasn't really aware of this because almost all the kids used the word) and brought it to my attention, I would probably still be using the word today.

 

[NewmansOwn]

Soooo....... I really need to know, who am I still allowed to make fun of? Obviously, can't do it based on race or sexual orientation. Can I make fun of the following people, or would that violate SDN's TOS?:

Fatty
Baldy
Smells like a chimney
Sir Sweats A-Lot
Ms. I can't, for the love of god, put make-up on correctly
Guy that can't relate to modern fashion
International funny accent guy
Metrosexuals
Rednecks
Trailor Park Dwellers
Independent Voters (go ahead and throw your vote away)
Douch-bags in general
Cajuns
Bag-Pipe hoochies
Guy that can only speak in monotone voices
People who actually like British food
And Finally... The French

Alright, Jack -- I lashed out too hard at you; you're not a bad guy. My apologies.

I think, depending on the context, all of these things could be acceptable. Among friends, jokes that would be unspeakable in public fly like crazy. The world is not a tolerant place and with the variety of backgrounds from which we all come, it is unreasonable to expect anyone to be perpetually free of judgements. Everybody makes fun of the dude with the popped collar. Everyone mocks the kid who learned how to speak Klingon. Same goes for the guy who wears cleats, UnderArmour and 'catching gloves' to informal football games. We all judge, so what's the point in hiding it? The ugly people judge the pretty people because they assume they're stupid and shallow. The pretty people judge the ugly people because they assume they're not socially worthwhile. The fatties judge the skinny people, assuming they're 'anorexic' and the skinny people judge the fatties, assuming they're lazy.

I agree with the poster who said it shouldn't be mocked publicly if the targeted individual has no control over his/her situation. The OP's situation is rough. Would I tell the dean? I doubt it...but everyone needs to make their own decision, so the OP shouldn't take any of our advice too seriously.

Oh and the obvious exception is the French. The French are insufferable.

 

[Moshe Rabbenu]

One of my suitemates in the dorms always made anti-semitic comments. Even though I am not Jewish, it always really bothered me. I really hope he gets his a*s handed to him for that by some Jewish dude one day.

Jews in America take that **** and turn the other cheek usually. I lived in Israel for a little bit, and Israelis don't take **** from anyone. You say an anti-Semitic comment over there, and they'll rip your head off. I have black belts in brazilian jiu jitsu and judo plus some krav maga training, so I don't hesitate to smack a bitch when I need to.

 

[Cegar]

Jews in America take that **** and turn the other cheek usually. I lived in Israel for a little bit, and Israelis don't take **** from anyone. You say an anti-Semitic comment over there, and they'll rip your head off. I have black belts in brazilian jiu jitsu and judo plus some krav maga training, so I don't hesitate to smack a bitch when I need to.

Something tells me that Anne Coulter could be pretty popular in Israel if she wasn't such an anti-Semite.

 

[Moshe Rabbenu]

If she wasn't anti-Semitic, she could probably be a commando. Oh, wait, she talks too much. I guess they could just have her rally people against Hamas....

 

[Tin Man]

If the jokes are disrespectful and/or derogatory. Expect to get dealt with.

Dealt with? How? Give me a break. You're going to be dealing with patients who have been shooting blood from their anus like frat boys to a big screen, and you're going to be dealing with people who have been staying up all night, and you're going to be dealing with people who are about to die, and you're really going to let them offend you if they make a deragatory comment about black people? Who are you expecting to be your patients? ******ed people? Because that's pretty much the only way you can expect NOT to get insulted out in the real world.

If you are a white male expect to be a comedian.

Eh, I already covered white males in an earlier post. I figured, though, that you people wouldn't believe in racism towards white people, and that it's only a myth spread by the liberals to scare people into voting for more old white guys. I get that a lot.

 

[Moshe Rabbenu]

There are a lot of people here in NJ that think racism against whites is a myth. It drives me crazy.

 

[NewmansOwn]

Jews in America take that **** and turn the other cheek usually. I lived in Israel for a little bit, and Israelis don't take **** from anyone. You say an anti-Semitic comment over there, and they'll rip your head off. I have black belts in brazilian jiu jitsu and judo plus some krav maga training, so I don't hesitate to smack a bitch when I need to.

I think violence is probably the worst possible way to handle a situation of offensive language. Having lived in a genuine powderkeg, I'd think you'd agree...

 

[Cegar]

Dealt with? How? Give me a break. You're going to be dealing with patients who have been shooting blood from their anus like frat boys to a big screen, and you're going to be dealing with people who have been staying up all night, and you're going to be dealing with people who are about to die, and you're really going to let them offend you if they make a deragatory comment about black people? Who are you expecting to be your patients? ******ed people? Because that's pretty much the only way you can expect NOT to get insulted out in the real world.



Eh, I already covered white males in an earlier post. I figured, though, that you people wouldn't believe in racism towards white people, and that it's only a myth spread by the liberals to scare people into voting for more old white guys. I get that a lot.

I think that flaahless might have meant that for you.

 

[Tin Man]

I think that flaahless might have meant that for you.

I'm shocked and amazed. I never thought that I would get threatened by one anonymous poster on a high-grade medical forum, considering that I'm another anonymous poster. Oh, wait, yes I did. I forgot that I seem to be the only one capable of shrugging of insulting comments by people who have no idea what they're talking about.

I'm not racist, and I haven't said anything racist. What I have said is that if you don't learn to deal with racism, or anti-feminism, or homophobia, or anti-chess team behavior, then it shows that you're pretty much:

A) One of those romantics who really believes that the world will realize what a suck pit it is and start apologizing to everyone, and eventually we'll all live in a big happy world where everyone on the planet engages in a big group hug of happiness that makes people's heads explode into candy.

or...

B) You've lived in a sheltered world, haven't ever heard a bad word before, don't understand why people can not like you based off of illogical reasons, and it's time to grow up.

or...

C) You get offended despite disbelief in the first two possibilities, and therefore are most likely WAY too sensitive to survive reputably in the real world, and need to rethink the idea of dealing with people on any level.

 

[Textuality]

I deal just fine, and I definitely don't freak out at the hint of political incorrectness or consider myself overly idealistic. I do know how to shut out various comments that might get shouted at me or whispered at me when I walk by, whatever they may be and inflammatory as they may be.

However, my way of "dealing" with publicly voiced homophobic/racist comments that come from my peers and the people representing my profession, is to kindly ask that they at least not voice things so publicly, if not out of respect for me, than at least out of respect for their profession and school. Is it wrong for me to hold (soon to be) fellow medical students to a higher standard of etiquette than the average person?

And of course, I don't mind jokes, I make them myself often enough, but it has to be funny, and calling someone a "***" isn't particularly humorous or clever in my opinion.

 

[thebeatblitz]

This thread is filled with fail. Anonymous e-beatdowns for all!

 

[Luxian]

You get offended despite disbelief in the first two possibilities, and therefore are most likely WAY too sensitive to survive reputably in the real world, and need to rethink the idea of dealing with people on any level.

I think we need to make a distinction. Given the world, yes, there are people who say stupid things. We should not be suprised, but that doesn't mean we should refrain from doing something about it. Do I expect to get jokes about being a female engineer? Sure. Should I sit back and take it? No. Whenever possible, this kind of thing should be resolved on a personal basis with a simple comment. That's the easiest. But I never want someone to advise me to leave the world as it is, when I can through simple action make it a better place.

 

[Moshe Rabbenu]

I think violence is probably the worst possible way to handle a situation of offensive language. Having lived in a genuine powderkeg, I'd think you'd agree...

Eh, violence has its place. The other day, I was stepping off the shuttle from the parking lot to campus and my kippah got knocked off into a puddle. Some d-bag made some anti-Semitic remark, but I just rolled my eyes and kept walking. I'm not going to get into a fight in the middle of the street with some asshat who thinks Jews control the world.

But, sometimes you have to smack a bitch. If the same person repeatedly made derrogatory comments to me even after I tried to talk to him about it, I'd probably lose my temper and get into a fight. Other people are more forgiving, but I know my limitations, so I try to remove myself from those situations.

In Israel, it goes both ways. Someone might make an anti-Semitic comment, but down the street there is probably someone making an anti-Arab comment. It's different there though as far as the average schmuck not punching someone in the head for being a *******.

 

[speeter]

Everyone in this thread needs to watch South Park: Cartman's Silly Hate Crime. Season 4 Episode 1.

[SIZE=-1]Judge: "If you want to criticize another human being, you'd better make damn sure they're the same color as you."[/SIZE]

 

[Concubine]

People also need to watch "It's always Sunny in Philadelphia" and the episode "The gang goes Jihad". Hilarious.

 

[VoiceofReason]

People also need to watch "It's always Sunny in Philadelphia" and the episode "The gang goes Jihad". Hilarious.

That show is awesome. Charlie is the greatest character on TV at the moment.

 

[StealthNerd]

So I read through all this and I've got a question. How the hell come I got smacked on the hand by some assclown SDN mod for a posting I did a while back DEFENDING gays because I used a Ron White bit that included the word "***"? Cause damn people. DAMN. Ya'll said "***" a billion times. Yeah just had to get that off my chest. Okay, I'm cool now. 🙂

 

[StealthNerd]

It happens everywhere, no matter how educated the group, there's always one insensitive a-hole homophobe who has buddies who just don't care about his behavior. I wouldn't judge the whole school by it.

I'd say to wait and see if you get accepted, and then go to the second look weekend. The one that Pitt has includes a LGBT dinner event, and your school might have something similar, and you can go and ask them what the environment is like and if the general school population is accepting and makes it a comfortable place to be. And you'll be able to meet some of the LGBT community there.

So yeah, that's my advice. Wait to see if your accepted first, and go to second look to get a better feel. If you're still uncomfortable afterwards, then by all means take it up with the dean and let him know your concerns.

So for the LGBT dinner, or the SNMA dinner for that matter... where to the straight white people go? Is there a SWNHG dinner for straight white non-hating guys? ...

That reminds me about how much I hate sub groups like that. For example... I take night classes (I'm a nerd) and there was a giant poster proclaiming the next meeting time for something like the BWNC... the black women's nurses club.

WTF.

So if I was a nurse, I couldn't go? What the hell??? At least the LGBT community has a term for folks like me: "ally". See, that's cool. That way I can at least consider going, say, to an LGBT dinner. It's like an open invite. But what if I was a nurse? No way in hell am I going to the BWNC. What about the NAACP? We SERIOUSLY have an organization called "the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People??? ... COLORED PEOPLE. My boss is a black lady. What if I referred to her as "colored"? ... granted, we've got a great relationship so she'd probably laugh. In fact one time race came up and I asked her "what are you?" because she looked mixed. ... anyway. I dunno. I guess sometimes this **** just gets out of control.

Everybody just be cool w/ everybody else, unless they're an asshat. Then just make fun of them for who they are as a person. You know, hate them for who they are on the inside. 🙂

O, P.S. ... am I going to stand out for being the only straight person at an LGBT dinner?

 

[StealthNerd]

Hey so one more off-topic thought, then I'm done. I promise. ... For now anyway.

How come Obama is the "first black candidate"? Why is he black? Before the flaming starts, let me ask you this. What if his wife was white instead of black? Would his kids be considered "black"? ... what about their kids, if they mated with a white person? At what point are you no longer "black"? ... What about asian? asian mixed with half white/half black?

I hate this crap. Drives me totally nuts. ... Obama is Obama. Love him, hate him, whatever. But he is exactly as white as he is black. Exactly (from what I hear anyway... one white parent, one black). So fine. If he's 50/50 and you're allowed to round either way, then I consider him white.

Shoot, in the summer time I get so dark I look half-n-half myself.

...

I wish John McCain was something "other than white", and gay to boot. Then I wouldn't feel like I have to qualify my support for him. People think: "tall straight white guy supports old straight white guy for president. shocker. probably hates gays and blacks too. what an as*hole"

 

[Concubine]

That show is awesome. Charlie is the greatest character on TV at the moment.

Ah, so many good episodes. Charlie got molested is probably one of my favorites, especially the moment where his family wants him to touch the doll in the spot he was touched.

 

[Textuality]

O, P.S. ... am I going to stand out for being the only straight person at an LGBT dinner?

Absolutely not. There are always straight people at our LGBT events, granted they're usually girls, but more power to you if you're a guy! We have had straight guys in our events too, supporting their LGBT roomates/friends, etc.

 

[umz]

If you're gay, expect gay jokes. If you're black, expect black jokes. If you're a woman, expect woman jokes. It's not a fair world, but if you don't learn to deal with it, then you'll find yourself pretty cold and lonely under that rock of yours.

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I don't know why people keep saying that discriminated groups should "get used to it" or "get a thicker skin." I will never just "get used to" discriminating comments and actions made about my sex and I will continue to stand up for myself for as long as I live. Get used to it.

 

[StealthNerd]

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I don't know why people keep saying that discriminated groups should "get used to it" or "get a thicker skin." I will never just "get used to" discriminating comments and actions made about my sex and I will continue to stand up for myself for as long as I live. Get used to it.

See, discriminating against people and being a dbag is one thing... but making jokes (depending on the context) can be different.

For example: at the fire station where I volunteer, everyone is a macho Alpha Male, grunting and scratching and talking about only A) fire or B) p*ssy. Or derivations thereof. So you can imagine what it's like for the one poor gay guy. I mean, women have a hard time but at least there's more of them and they can't "hide" so they sorta (not always) support one another. But there's only the one gay guy. So they'll sometimes say stupid **** like "o man, that guy is such a ***... etc..." and I'll make a joke. For example: "So what? He likes to suck d*ck. Who doesn't?" ... ... and that usually leaves me with a jaw drop or two. It's kinda funny cause it's so same exact guys ripping on gay men that just LOVE the les/bi chics (the one or two good looking ones anyway). I mean, come on. Good lord.

But yeah. It's all about context. They're dbags. I rock. 😀