Could AI replace all administrators?
Started by hyperalgesia
Multiple layers of admin had a flimsy justification BEFORE AI, but still managed to grow like a malignancy. This not just a matter of tech, but hopefully it helps!
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Many of them yes. And I hope I live long enough to see it.
Clearly you don’t understand hospital administration. I’ll bet you there are already vice presidents of AI integration out there.
Ok, I threw this out as tongue in cheek but it’s very much a real thing:
Kaiser Permanente's new head of AI on 'two fundamental shifts' the technology will enable
The sprawling health system believes artificial intelligence should never replace the judgment of clinicians and must be carefully assessed, says Dr. Daniel Yang, who offers a closer look at Kaiser's successful rollout of a genAI tool for clinicians, among other insights.
Current hospitals and systems I agree. But new systems that are significantly more efficient cheaper will come eventually and inevitably outcompete these top heavy ***** filled disasters that we currently call hospitals.
Edit who knew that any negative term is now profanity.
Edit who knew that any negative term is now profanity.
just like you have physicians supervising CRNAs or midlevels, you will have an administrator supervising 4-5 AI agents.
I saw that Jeff Bezos is funding a company that will acquire manufacturing companies and streamline them with AI. I'm sure there are healthcare PEs that are already selling this concept to investors to apply to hospitals.
I think the patient facing and public facing roles will need to remain but the layers and layers and admin who only face each other is an absolute joke. They can ALL be replaced with one simple chip.
So much of administrative bs is computer based.. that can all be eliminated essentially now.. workflows need to be optimized for agentic systems not human but this is coming and coming quickly…can’t wait.
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Considering private practices are cutting employees after integrating AI, admin is likely on the chopping block. Can't be 100% determined though with hospital organizations. However, I believe AI will actually help independent private practices to reduce overhead costs, and compete or perform better than larger organizations.
It can but those that are trying to use it wholesale to replace all humans will be disappointed.
i guarantee you that the focus of AI (outside of a private physician owned practice) will focus almost exclusively initially on replacing MAs, techs, then providers, and finally after all is said and done, then administrators.
came here to say the same
They are going to spend a bunch of money on AI consultants and probably have a chief AI officer
Hospital administration is a little bit like the federal government. It never gets smaller, just gets more expensive and less effective
Chief AI Officer role is already a think at major health systems
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Don’t they also need an assistant chief ai officer, director of ai integration and chief ai ethics theorist rn, Bsn, aspcn, gfurn, masters of bs. There’s way more opportunity to hire mentally challenged bottom of their class business graduates and waste even more money.
The main job of hospital administration is self proliferation.
Slightly off topic, but for those of you they do procedures at a hosp and esp if hospital employed I would recommend trying to get on the Board of the hospital. That is where the action is. If you have a good board at your hospital, they will hold administration accountable and they usually want to hear from the medical staff. Naturally you have to choose your battles carefully but you can make a difference
They’re like a malignant von neumann tumor..
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It depends on the hospital ownership. I was chief of staff for 5.5 years at a for profit corporate owned hospital. Serving on the board allowed me to see the books and know when the ship was sinking but the board had no say in the running of the hospital. I did have great sway based on being COS to get things done.
DrJekyllNj
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Jesus i hope so
I'm a proponent of AI, but I don't think it's actually replacing many humans yet.
The big layoffs we see are mostly companies doing their typical trick of jumping on any excuse to do layoffs. From an organizational standpoint, it's good to shed people and divisions periodically.
Human suffering aside, I hope we see the same in healthcare: organizations taking the excuse to rid themselves of bloated admin.
The big layoffs we see are mostly companies doing their typical trick of jumping on any excuse to do layoffs. From an organizational standpoint, it's good to shed people and divisions periodically.
Human suffering aside, I hope we see the same in healthcare: organizations taking the excuse to rid themselves of bloated admin.
the the admin is going to make a decision to eliminate their own jobs? no chance.
this means less help for the docs. less help for us. fewer billers to collect on claims, less office staff to obtain auths, schedulers turn into bots who will get everything wrong.
The executives will gladly get rid of anyone they can as soon as AI is good enough to make financial sense. It's already happening to some extent in billing, for example.
HMO era is the big bump in the middle, and post-COVID collapse of small private practices and rise of private equity at the tail end?
Transitioning away from the bureaucratic humans to AI will be a grass roots movement that takes place in private practice, and filters its way to hospitals at the rate that mirrors the demonstrated operating margin improvements. The success of AI in PP depends on how well it plays with the AI at insurance companies. The AI at insurance companies will likely be influenced by hospital administrators, and the hospital lobby - and may thus be poisoned to specifically NOT play well with PP AI.
The #1 purpose of every hospital administrator is NOT improved patient outcomes. It is improved personal profit and job security outcomes. Everything else is secondary to this.
The #1 purpose of every hospital administrator is NOT improved patient outcomes. It is improved personal profit and job security outcomes. Everything else is secondary to this.
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They do serve one other purpose: to relieve the accountability of their superiors and transfer it to their subordinates...
