Countdown to Duke 2005!

[dopaminophile]

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I'm not too big on starting new threads but I think it's high time for the non-rolling schools' countdowns! Of course our first and favorite (erm.. mine anyway) is Duke.

Last year the first accepts were post-marked Feb 27 and received on or about March 1st. Thats leave a good guess of some 33 days till the letters start coming. OOOH BABY.

Good luck all!

-dope-

 

[GuyLaroche]

OOOH BABY.

I like it raw?

 

[Wiggy73]

Word on the street (and on Duke's webpage) is letters go out 2-28. Woohoo!

 

[mr. sparkle]

only 30+ days to go. a little anxious are we?

 

[dopaminophile]

Sweet! Change that countdown to 34 days. I realized too that maybe I jumped the gun a little with this thread... previous years didn't start their countdown till maybe a week before. What can I say? I'm very excitable.

 

[dopaminophile]

Can the countdown thread get a critical mass at 10 days? Letters will go out a week from Monday and based on the countdown threads from previous years the acceptances go out first.

Go team!

 

[CarleneM]

I thought accepted applicants get a phone call from a student or adcom member? i think thats what i read in another thread.

I can't wait!! I interviewed there oh so long ago so it will be great to finally get a decision....

Can the countdown thread get a critical mass at 10 days? Letters will go out a week from Monday and based on the countdown threads from previous years the acceptances go out first.

Go team!

 

[bidster]

I can't wait!! I interviewed there oh so long ago so it will be great to finally get a decision....

No kidding....same for the other non-rolling schools. Good luck everyone!!!!!

 

[dopaminophile]

I thought accepted applicants get a phone call from a student or adcom member? i think thats what i read in another thread.

I can't wait!! I interviewed there oh so long ago so it will be great to finally get a decision....

I know... I interviewed 11/8 and I just want an answer! Apparently there was a fiasco two or three years ago where a bunch of people were incorrectly told they were accepted on the website. Since then, they've been really conservative in notifying applicants and only a signed letter is the real deal. Maybe though they're starting to come out of the shell and are calling people. Wouldn't that be a great phone call to get?

 

[Wiggy73]

Seven days left!

And yes, someone's post about neurotic countdown threads did inspire this bump. 😛

 

[dopaminophile]

Hey now, there's no harm in a shameless bump!

 

[xadmin]

Wiggy73,

Even though you did not get into medical school yet. I think you will get into Duke. Duke likes people with high MCAT and GPA. So you are set. Let me know if my prediction is correct 2 weeks from now.

 

[chlorineK]

Does any know, or have a guess at, how many people get accepted in the initial round of acceptances next week. I mean, with a class of 103 people, are they only going to send 150 or so acceptances at first? Considering they interview almost 1000 people, that would suck.

 

[krelian]

Seven days left!

And yes, someone's post about neurotic countdown threads did inspire this bump. 😛

I hope that wasn't my post in the "waiting for non-rolling school" thread that inspired this 😛 . Anyhow, I don't think my Duke interview went too well, but we'll see soon.

 

[frantic983]

.

 

[beep]

How are the physical facilities at Duke? (I did a regional interview.)

 

[bidster]

Anyhow, I don't think my Duke interview went too well, but we'll see soon.

I had a similar experience...one interview went really well, and the other was so hard to read because he kept bringing up scenarios in which people didn't like me--it was hard to gauge whether my responses to those questions were at all what he was trying to get out of me!!! I guess we'll see....the unfortunate thing with Duke is that it's a great school but I had a painful personal experience--completely unrelated to the interview day--with an undergrad "friend" there and even though I shouldn't have allowed it to, it soured my memory of my visit. 🙁 I've worked on sifting out the irrelevant parts of that impression, but I'm guessing the admissions office will *probably* make it a non-issue for me 😛

To beep--the facilities are really nice. The med school facilties are integrated into their medical center--"labyrinth" would also be an accurate word--and the lecture hall is set up for students to bring their laptops (that Duke "buys" for students). Even the interview suite was wired with some cool gadgets, like a photo-badge maker and a flat screen monitor that showcased some stuff about the school.

 

[seethrew]

I hope that wasn't my post in the "waiting for non-rolling school" thread that inspired this 😛 . Anyhow, I don't think my Duke interview went too well, but we'll see soon.

yeah... i think my duke interview was my worst interview, so curious to see how it works out.

 

[Wiggy73]

Funny, both my Duke interviews were fairly friendly. The student had my app open on the computer in front of me, and the professor hadn't even looked at it so we just talked about whatever came up. I think they both went well, but we'll see in...

SIX DAYS!!!

 

[TommyGunn04]

Duke likes people with high MCAT and GPA

Considering my class at Duke, right off the top of my head I can think of a number of people who actually DON'T have great GPAs and MCAT scores. A top school like Duke could easily fill its class with students with 3.9's and 40's on their MCATs, but the fact is, that's just not the reality. The last average I heard, which I think was for my class, was about a 3.8 GPA and 35 MCAT. Since I know for a fact there are a number of 3.9+ and 40+ people, that also means there are also a number of 3.5 and 32 kind of people, and I can think of quite a few of these.

Duke isn't a numbers *****, that's for sure...while numbers are of course somewhat important, Duke wants to fill its classes with interesting, diverse people who they anticipate will make great contributions to a class, to the University, and to the field of medine itself. I suggest being skeptical about anything you hear to the contrary.

 

[CarleneM]

i'm going to have to disagree. duke is a numbers ***** compared to upenn, hopkins and harvard. not as much of a ***** compared to washu but a ***** nonetheless. further evidence: the nanaline duke scholarship. from what i understand this is given to a few really high mcat/gpa people. i guess penn does have something similar but their overall averages are lower than penn's. I'm sure duke does let in a wide variety of people with a wide range of scores and has a very diverse class, blah blah blah. that being said, they do favor high numbers relative so some of the other top 5 schools.

Considering my class at Duke, right off the top of my head I can think of a number of people who actually DON'T have great GPAs and MCAT scores. A top school like Duke could easily fill its class with students with 3.9's and 40's on their MCATs, but the fact is, that's just not the reality. The last average I heard, which I think was for my class, was about a 3.8 GPA and 35 MCAT. Since I know for a fact there are a number of 3.9+ and 40+ people, that also means there are also a number of 3.5 and 32 kind of people, and I can think of quite a few of these.

Duke isn't a numbers *****, that's for sure...while numbers are of course somewhat important, Duke wants to fill its classes with interesting, diverse people who they anticipate will make great contributions to a class, to the University, and to the field of medine itself. I suggest being skeptical about anything you hear to the contrary.

 

[Dr. Donkey]

How much of a regional/state preference does Duke have (i.e. do they like people from their region/state significantly more)?

 

[seethrew]

How much of a regional/state preference does Duke have (i.e. do they like people from their region/state significantly more)?

i believe the undergrad institutions that have the most accepted dukies include some nc schools. however, it does not seem to be anywhere close to a majority of the class. this was on dukes website.

 

[IndyZX]

i hope they look past my horrible interviews and subpar application!

 

[DukeDoc08]

I can remember how this upcoming week felt last year...unfortunately my letter was thin (waitlist) and my waiting continued for a while!!
I don't agree with the number ***** comments...certainly there are some outstanding numbers in my class but there are also some others, too (32 3.4 some lower some higher)...my class is really diverse in more ways than I can write...career interests, community interests, musical interests, cultural and religious backgrounds...on and on!
I have to admit that I thought that there would be a lot of snobby gunners...but I am pleased to say that is not the case....these people would help ANYONE else out at any time in any way....my fraternity in college was not this brotherly!
Anyway..hang in there and try to enjoy these last few days before you find out one way or another...if you get in let me know if you have any questions....
I sincerely hope you will ALL get in/ go to the place that will make YOU the happiest for the next 4 years!!!

FYI: second look weekend will be April 1-3 (I am 98% sure of this)

 

[TommyGunn04]

i'm going to have to disagree. duke is a numbers ***** compared to upenn, hopkins and harvard. not as much of a ***** compared to washu but a ***** nonetheless. further evidence: the nanaline duke scholarship. from what i understand this is given to a few really high mcat/gpa people. i guess penn does have something similar but their overall averages are lower than penn's. I'm sure duke does let in a wide variety of people with a wide range of scores and has a very diverse class, blah blah blah. that being said, they do favor high numbers relative so some of the other top 5 schools.

Fair enough for you to disagree, but I'd like to see some data to back up this claim. The fact that Duke has merit scholarships hardly makes it a numbers *****, as merit scholarships are based on just that...MERIT. I'd hardly expect them to give full rides to the accepted students with the lowest scores. Duke has at least 10 full scholarships, but that's more a testament to the endowed financial aid system we have here (it's absolutely phenomenal...they're saving me over $10,000 per year in loans as compared to every other school's financial aid package, including Penn).

I think it's important to clarify our terms though. Depending on how you define the term "numbers *****" you could argue that all top schools qualify for this label. I was simply arguing that for Duke, being accepted is about A LOT MORE than numbers. When I say "numbers *****" I'm referring to schools that think numbers are so important that personal qualities don't matter much. In other words, they ascribe to the notion that it may be better to fill a class with people who may be great on paper but not particularly great human beings, in order to boast a high average GPA and MCAT, and look better for US News rankings. I'm basically saying that Duke is NOT like this, and that's why I talked about the diversity of scores in my class. What's really amazed me about my classmates is truly how unbelievable they are, as persons, not just as brains. This is why Duke isn't a "numbers *****." Maybe we were simply using the term differently.

Or are you perhaps basically saying that Duke's average GPA and MCAT are higher than Harvard, Penn, etc.? I don't know their numbers, so I can't comment on that. I'm just wondering, what are you basing this assertion on?

 

[dopaminophile]

Do you know if waitlistees are invited to 2nd look? Bill Bradford told us that Duke's second look was quite the affair and if I'm fortunate enough not to be rejected then I'd really like to go.

 

[dopaminophile]

In regards to the whole number-***** thing, I'm not in but the fact that I was interviewed is proof that they're not whoring. In my humble opinion, that is.

 

[DrDarwin]

Fair enough for you to disagree, but I'd like to see some data to back up this claim. The fact that Duke has merit scholarships hardly makes it a numbers *****, as merit scholarships are based on just that...MERIT. I'd hardly expect them to give full rides to the accepted students with the lowest scores. Duke has at least 10 full scholarships, but that's more a testament to the endowed financial aid system we have here (it's absolutely phenomenal...they're saving me over $10,000 per year in loans as compared to every other school's financial aid package, including Penn).

I think it's important to clarify our terms though. Depending on how you define the term "numbers *****" you could argue that all top schools qualify for this label. I was simply arguing that for Duke, being accepted is about A LOT MORE than numbers. When I say "numbers *****" I'm referring to schools that think numbers are so important that personal qualities don't matter much. In other words, they ascribe to the notion that it may be better to fill a class with people who may be great on paper but not particularly great human beings, in order to boast a high average GPA and MCAT, and look better for US News rankings. I'm basically saying that Duke is NOT like this, and that's why I talked about the diversity of scores in my class. What's really amazed me about my classmates is truly how unbelievable they are, as persons, not just as brains. This is why Duke isn't a "numbers *****." Maybe we were simply using the term differently.

Or are you perhaps basically saying that Duke's average GPA and MCAT are higher than Harvard, Penn, etc.? I don't know their numbers, so I can't comment on that. I'm just wondering, what are you basing this assertion on?

I agree with this. People will often assert that Wash U, Duke, and Columbia are numbers ******, but the average stats at the latter of these two (i.e., ~3.8/35) are not significantly higher than the averages at Harvard (3.8/35 in the info. brochure from interview day), Penn, or even Yale. (Wash U is an obvious numbers *****, but I think we mostly agree about that.) How are Harvard, Penn, and Yale not numbers ****** also? Is it because they are arguably the three most well-known Ivy League schools (that have medical schools), which somehow exempts them from the "Numbers *****" category? I guess I basically think that Wash U is the only true numbers *****, and that the high stats at Duke--though not really that high--are necessitated by squeezing the basic science curriculum into one year. High academic achievement is probably a fairly reliable indicator of an applicant's likelihood to navigate such a curriculum successfully. Nevertheless, Duke, like Harvard, Penn, and Yale, would assuredly not assemble a high stats class when it could assemble a talented, diverse class instead.

 

[CarleneM]

Yeah I am basically basing it off of the averages compared to the other top ten schools. WashU has the highest averages but then duke and columbia are pretty much tied for second (duke's numbers being slightly higher compared with columbia for the year i'm looking at- 2003). I'm sure that is an incredibly diverse class with a wide range of scores and talents and from visiting, i definitely got that sense. That being said, the numbers are what they are and to me that looks like duke is placing perhaps a slightly higher premium on top stats than some schools of similar caliber. Its an awesome school and (from what I saw) is filled with awesome students and i didn't mean to say it only or predominantly looks at the numbers. It just maybe looks more closely than, say, hopkins or harvard.

Fair enough for you to disagree, but I'd like to see some data to back up this claim. The fact that Duke has merit scholarships hardly makes it a numbers *****, as merit scholarships are based on just that...MERIT. I'd hardly expect them to give full rides to the accepted students with the lowest scores. Duke has at least 10 full scholarships, but that's more a testament to the endowed financial aid system we have here (it's absolutely phenomenal...they're saving me over $10,000 per year in loans as compared to every other school's financial aid package, including Penn).

I think it's important to clarify our terms though. Depending on how you define the term "numbers *****" you could argue that all top schools qualify for this label. I was simply arguing that for Duke, being accepted is about A LOT MORE than numbers. When I say "numbers *****" I'm referring to schools that think numbers are so important that personal qualities don't matter much. In other words, they ascribe to the notion that it may be better to fill a class with people who may be great on paper but not particularly great human beings, in order to boast a high average GPA and MCAT, and look better for US News rankings. I'm basically saying that Duke is NOT like this, and that's why I talked about the diversity of scores in my class. What's really amazed me about my classmates is truly how unbelievable they are, as persons, not just as brains. This is why Duke isn't a "numbers *****." Maybe we were simply using the term differently.

Or are you perhaps basically saying that Duke's average GPA and MCAT are higher than Harvard, Penn, etc.? I don't know their numbers, so I can't comment on that. I'm just wondering, what are you basing this assertion on?

 

[lavertus]

I guess I basically think that Wash U is the only true numbers *****, and that the high stats at Duke--though not really that high--are necessitated by squeezing the basic science curriculum into one year. High academic achievement is probably a fairly reliable indicator of an applicant's likelihood to navigate such a curriculum successfully.

Hmm... Interesting rationale for Duke's high stats. I wonder if they really feel that way. One HMS grad told me that honestly, a school could squeeze its entire curriculum into a month and a half if it really wanted to... as much time as most students take to cram for the boards.

 

[CarleneM]

So the averages from the 2003 U.S. news an world report book are
Duke: 35.7
Penn: 34.2
Harvard:34
Hopkins:33

GPAs are all pretty similar.

maybe 2003 was an unusually high year for duke and an unusually low year for hopkins and harvard. to me, a 33 is really quite a bit lower than a 35.7. I guess i should also look at the 2002 and 2004 stats to get a clearer picture. hey, i certainly hope duke doesn't place a ton of emphasis on super high stats because i'd love to get in there!

I agree with this. People will often assert that Wash U, Duke, and Columbia are numbers ******, but the average stats at the latter of these two (i.e., ~3.8/35) are not significantly higher than the averages at Harvard (3.8/35 in the info. brochure from interview day), Penn, or even Yale. (Wash U is an obvious numbers *****, but I think we mostly agree about that.) How are Harvard, Penn, and Yale not numbers ****** also? Is it because they are arguably the three most well-known Ivy League schools (that have medical schools), which somehow exempts them from the "Numbers *****" category? I guess I basically think that Wash U is the only true numbers *****, and that the high stats at Duke--though not really that high--are necessitated by squeezing the basic science curriculum into one year. High academic achievement is probably a fairly reliable indicator of an applicant's likelihood to navigate such a curriculum successfully. Nevertheless, Duke, like Harvard, Penn, and Yale, would assuredly not assemble a high stats class when it could assemble a talented, diverse class instead.

 

[DrDarwin]

Hmm... Interesting rationale for Duke's high stats. I wonder if they really feel that way. One HMS grad told me that honestly, a school could squeeze its entire curriculum into a month and a half if it really wanted to... as much time as most students take to cram for the boards.

The webpage profiles a girl who said she expressed some apprehension about the 'rigorousness' of the curriculum during her interview. The interviewer replied with something like, "Don't worry, we only accept people who can handle the curriculum." That suggested to me that Duke places a bit of a premium on stats.

Personally, I think anybody with 30+ (and maybe even less) can do very well at any US medical school, but the admissions process is so competitive that 30-33 MCAT people often have a very rough time at the elite schools. It's definitely not fair, but the volume of applicants almost requires the top schools to be quasi-numbers ******.

 

[DukeDoc08]

I can't speak for this year (although I'm pretty sure), but I don't think waitlisted people will be invited to 2nd look weekend.

my personal definition of "number *****" is a school that will take a jerk or an antisocial person solely bc his/her numbers were off the chart. This could occur in many cases (ex: if the admission committee uses an equation to determine who gets in and they place a very high factor on GPA and MCAT over interview and intangibles) or if they have a good application with really high numbers come across their desk and regardless of how the interview went the person will get an acceptance...that to me is a number ***** school
I would say that duke like most other schools has a mix:
1. very high numbers, great interview, super EC
2. very high numbers, OK interview, good EC
3. above average numbers, great interview, great EC
4. below average numbers, SUPER interview, great EC
you get my drift...we ALL know that great #s can carry an OK interview and that an outstanding interview can overcome OK #s (otherwise you would NOT have been interviewed in the 1st place)...I am a believer that schools don't bring you into an interview unless there is SOME way that you COULD be accepted when it is all said and done...that some way is up to you to figure out and achieve
sometime in the past Duke became a good med school and it now attracts higher caliber applicants....therefore Duke can be more selective and therefore they end up being able to take more from categories 1, 2, and 3 and less from 4.....but just from 1st hand experience (being on the waitlist, trying to get in, communicating with admissions as often as I could) they are trying to CREATE a class of 100 people that can contribute something to the class and WILL contribute something to the profession when they graduate...that something may be intelligence and mastery of medical knowledge or it may be a heart for global health or it may be a bedside manner that is so awesome that it gives all Duke doctors a reputation of compassion and empathy.

 

[dopaminophile]

tick tock tick tock. tick.. tock... tiiick.... tooock......... tiiiiiiiick..............

 

[TommyGunn04]

Do you know if waitlistees are invited to 2nd look? Bill Bradford told us that Duke's second look was quite the affair and if I'm fortunate enough not to be rejected then I'd really like to go.

I recall hearing that in the past, waitlisted applicants who've specifically asked to attend second look were then invited, but I'm pretty sure Duke doesn't outright invite waitlisted students. Duke's waitlist is very mysterious...I was on it myself a few years back, for a long LONG wait, and despite all my "detective work" I was never able to find out where I was on the list or if it was possible to move up in the rankings based on interest, etc. I assume I was somewhere near the top since I ended up getting in, but no one would ever tell me anything.

So if you're really interested in Duke and you end up waitlisted, asking to go to second look might be a good way to get a feel for whether or not you want to remain on the list. I think if you ask they'll let you attend. But don't count on it increasing your chances of getting in off the waitlist, although maybe it would...nobody seems to know...they're so secretive about it! 😕

I wish I knew the answer to this!

 

[TommyGunn04]

For those insominacs out there, its 5 days now...

Not to worsen your insomnia, but I can say from personal experience that the Duke letters have at least historically not arrived as soon as they're supposed to. I hear they typically send out the acceptances in bunches...this definitely happened my year, as reflected in many SDN posts from March of 2002. And I didn't get my waitlist letter until mid to late March! I was going crazy! Some people even got phone calls, but they seemed to be in the great minority.

Given that this has been an especially busy year for Duke, I imagine some applicants will have to wait longer than expected for their letters. So don't assume you've been rejected if you haven't heard anything by the end of the first week of March. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble...I hope I'm wrong about this, but I wanted to prepare you just in case. I remember how awful this waiting game is...I had to wait until July to get an acceptance from Duke!!!

 

[GuyLaroche]

Not to worsen your insomnia, but I can say from personal experience that the Duke letters have at least historically not arrived as soon as they're supposed to. I hear they typically send out the acceptances in bunches...this definitely happened my year, as reflected in many SDN posts from March of 2002. And I didn't get my waitlist letter until mid to late March! I was going crazy! Some people even got phone calls, but they seemed to be in the great minority.

Given that this has been an especially busy year for Duke, I imagine some applicants will have to wait longer than expected for their letters. So don't assume you've been rejected if you haven't heard anything by the end of the first week of March. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble...I hope I'm wrong about this, but I wanted to prepare you just in case. I remember how awful this waiting game is...I had to wait until July to get an acceptance from Duke!!!

You sound like one of my consults. I was also told this by a fourth year. However, she said they'd call more people this year. Know anything about that?

 

[TommyGunn04]

You sound like one of my consults. I was also told this by a fourth year. However, she said they'd call more people this year. Know anything about that?

I haven't heard that, but I guess it COULD be true. Maybe that was someone on the committee who knows more than I do. I was actually thinking the opposite...after that fiasco a few years back where some people were told they were "accepted" on the webpage but weren't ACTUALLY accepted, I figured Duke would be reverting only to the official written method for their final decisions. Who knows, but in any case, they haven't made very many calls in the past, so I wouldn't assume that not getting a call means you didn't get in. I think they've only made a small handfull of calls in the past, and only for the first few days of March.

 

[51487]

i think that sdn is making me go more insane over the whole thing! aah!

 

[dopaminophile]

Honestly, between Duke and all the other non-rolling schools, I feel just utterly defeated. I'm not hyper anxious, just incredibly tired of the game and trying to remember the different set of rules each school plays by.

You and me both... that combined with no straight accepts for three months makes the days just kindof mechanical. I could really go for another accept and another withdrawal. That one-two punch would really get me through to June as well as give someone else an accept at another school. In fact, an accept at Duke would let me drop both schools that I'm holding and give two peops spots! Wouldn't that be a day. *sight* We'll see.

 

[flyingyeti]

Does anyone know whether Duke pays for plane tix etc. for second look weekend? I did a regional interview and didn't get to go visit the school. I'm crossing my fingers for getting good news next week...

 

[51487]

they dont

 

[DukeDoc08]

Ok guys and gals...I heard in the admission's office that they are sending out letters on Monday...they did not mention multiple batches or anything..
MONDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[leechy]

Honestly, between Duke and all the other non-rolling schools, I feel just utterly defeated. I'm not hyper anxious, just incredibly tired of the game and trying to remember the different set of rules each school plays by.

Same here. There was that first rush of news in the fall, then this long winter hiatus in which we don't really learn anything new. It just makes the whole process so long and drawn out to have some schools be rolling, and others non.

 

[LRmed2003]

well Mimi..sounds like you already know how it's going to turn out for you ! 😀 hope i can be as lucky!! does anyone know the skinny on finding out about the scholarships? I've already sent in my financial aid info, but financial aid is going to be a HUGE factor in deciding where i go..

~L

 

[leechy]

I'm sure duke does let in a wide variety of people with a wide range of scores and has a very diverse class, blah blah blah. that being said, they do favor high numbers relative so some of the other top 5 schools.

I have to agree here. Duke's average scores are consistently among the highest... Obviously, that doesn't mean they don't take account of "soft" factors. I also heard that each applicant is assigned a point value after interview day (i.e., a certain weight is given to grades/scores, ECs, interview, etc to yield a particular "score"), and that the top "scorers" are taken in (someone correct me if I'm wrong). It seems to me such a process would tend to result in higher average GPA/MCATs (depending on the weight accorded to these attributes), compared with a more subjective admissions process in which a committee decides on admissions based on a qualitative impression. I'm not saying either way is bad, just that this might be what's going on at Duke.

 

[dopaminophile]

I have to agree here. Duke's average scores are consistently among the highest... Obviously, that doesn't mean they don't take account of "soft" factors. I also heard that each applicant is assigned a point value after interview day (i.e., a certain weight is given to grades/scores, ECs, interview, etc to yield a particular "score"), and that the top "scorers" are taken in (someone correct me if I'm wrong). It seems to me such a process would tend to result in higher average GPA/MCATs (depending on the weight accorded to these attributes), compared with a more subjective admissions process in which a committee decides on admissions based on a qualitative impression. I'm not saying either way is bad, just that this might be what's going on at Duke.

That was posted in another thread. Do you remember where you heard it from? Did you also hear it from SDN or do you have a more direct source?

 

[dopaminophile]

That was posted in another thread. Do you remember where you heard it from? Did you also hear it from SDN or do you have a more direct source?

Wow I really sound neurotic. MORE MORE MORE INFORMATION AHH! MUST GO CHECK THE MAIL! AHH!

 

[Dr. Donkey]

Yeah, seriously. I was wondering if this was true also, but then I decided that even if it were, all I would know would be that Duke uses SOME KIND of point system (no idea for the weighting or even the inclusion of the various potential admissions factors). Just a little something to whet the appetite, I guess that is really what we're all looking for. I just hope I don't have to wait for a week or more after next Monday to hear from these guys.

Wow I really sound neurotic. MORE MORE MORE INFORMATION AHH! MUST GO CHECK THE MAIL! AHH!