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Apparently he’s awake, so he must be able to produce a good neuro exam nowwhat you all making of news saying "neurologically intact"?
Apparently he’s awake, so he must be able to produce a good neuro exam nowwhat you all making of news saying "neurologically intact"?
Do you know what else is ridiculously rare? Myocarditis from COVID vaccine.
Also. Codes that we run have the airway secured quickly and definitively. I know I know … compressions first. But it certainly helps outcomes if you are moving oxygenated blood. I suspect ventilation didn’t happen to Hamlin for at least 5 minutes. Even then, was probably with a mask not ETT
Yeshua wants us to believe the the player had vaccine induced myocarditis that caused zero functional limitation and was completely asymptomatic up to the point of him being struck really hard in the chest, and then all of a sudden the myocarditis jumps out and caused the cardiac arrest. Yeah... that makes a ton of sense.
I'm sure Damar Hamlin is getting a battery of cardiac testing in hospital and aside from a transient bump in cardiac enzymes due to chest compressions and defib.. everything is going to be 100% normal.
When you hear hoofbeats think of a horse not a zebra. Yeshua wants us to think of a Bigfoot.
Agree. The electophysiologist I work with said the same. It takes a thump at the exact right time with the right amount of energy. It’s just a very rare occurrenceFunny thing is, commotio cordis can happen to anyone; there doesn't need to be a predisposing factor or condition on the patient's part, just a well (poor?) timed delivery of the right amount of energy to the patient's precordium. It doesn't even have look like a "hard impact"...think of it like delivering a defibrillator shock at 50 J right at the onset of the T wave.
They just said in the press conference that he's Neuro intact.
Now let's guess why he's prone.
Yes. Explicitly stated at this afternoon’s press conference by the physicians that he was proned for ARDS.It was verified that he was prone? Why ARDS.. Maybe pulmonary contusion?
From the press conference there was no reaction time.I think the criticism of the reaction time to starting CPR is kinda tough. These folks see people get concussed and end up knocked out fairly frequently. Add in all the protective gear and I can see it taking a minute to realize that this was different. Lots of interesting details that may come out eventually. How long until he was shocked. The ambulance waited for his family to get down from the stands so was he stable/awake at that point (one report said they waited 15min). Did he or didn't he code again in the ER. What is going on with his lungs. Did he have predisposing factors or was this actually just commotio cordis.
I can't believe there is a real life MAGA kook physician in this thread talking about COVID vaccines.
That's not fair. Most of my friends vote GOP yet have been vaccinated. I won't even post the number of shots I have gotten since the Mrna based vaccines became available. All I will say is that I am going to get boosted again in a few months with the updated version.I think the criticism of the reaction time to starting CPR is kinda tough. These folks see people get concussed and end up knocked out fairly frequently. Add in all the protective gear and I can see it taking a minute to realize that this was different. Lots of interesting details that may come out eventually. How long until he was shocked. The ambulance waited for his family to get down from the stands so was he stable/awake at that point (one report said they waited 15min). Did he or didn't he code again in the ER. What is going on with his lungs. Did he have predisposing factors or was this actually just commotio cordis.
I can't believe there is a real life MAGA kook physician in this thread talking about COVID vaccines.
FYI, I bet Tucker has been boosted as well as most of Fox news.
In my circle of physicians, my dad was tachycardic for months following his COVID vaccine series, another attending in his early 40’s went into a fib a few weeks following his shot (previously thin and healthy). None of them reported these instances to VAERS. Anyway, I could go on and on but it’s not ridiculously rare for people to get cardiac issues at all.Do you know what else is ridiculously rare? Myocarditis from COVID vaccine.
In my circle of physicians, my dad was tachycardic for months following his COVID vaccine series, another attending in his early 40’s went into a fib a few weeks following his shot (previously thin and healthy). None of them reported these instances to VAERS. Anyway, I could go on and on but it’s not ridiculously rare for people to get cardiac issues at all.
On another note, it’s great to see Hamlin showing signs of recovery. Let’s hope he can pull through.
👆 this is what happens when you quit questioning reality.Anecdote =/= data. Furthermore, I specifically said myocarditis, not vague cardiac symptoms or atrial fibrillation, which is common enough that you can't just say "must have been the vaccine."
In my circle of physicians, my dad was tachycardic for months following his COVID vaccine series, another attending in his early 40’s went into a fib a few weeks following his shot (previously thin and healthy). None of them reported these instances to VAERS. Anyway, I could go on and on but it’s not ridiculously rare for people to get cardiac issues at all.
👆 this is what happens when you quit questioning reality.
👆 this is what happens when you quit questioning reality.
You should Google Myocarditis and atrial fibrillation.Covid vaccine induced myocarditis. That's what we are talking about. Please don't tell me you also think what happened to Damar is because of a vaccine.
You should Google Myocarditis and atrial fibrillation.
You should Google Myocarditis and atrial fibrillation.
I know I shouldn't be criticizing their management, but I'm going to regardless.Yes. Explicitly stated at this afternoon’s press conference by the physicians that he was proned for ARDS.
There is a requirement that all little leaguers and lacrosse players wear an approved heart protection pad.You're proposing that everyone playing a contact sport (or even noncontact sport if a projectile is involved) wear a Life Vest in the exceedingly unlikely probability that a commotio cordis event happens?
What everyone witnessed was a freak accident that little can be done to mitigate (assuming it was commotio cordis, which is the easiest explanation for what happened).
Apparently he was admitted to a SICU and if a trauma surgeon was his intensivist, they probably just took the kitchen sink approach.I know I shouldn't be criticizing their management, but I'm going to regardless.
You don't get ARDS in that short of a time frame and it doesn't get better that quickly either. It was almost certainly pulmonary edema and the proning probably wasn't indicated.
I can only imagine how difficult it is to manage a patient in a situation like this so I do empathize, but aspiration pneumonitis (the only other possible differential) doesn't occur this immediately.
I know I shouldn't be criticizing their management, but I'm going to regardless.
You don't get ARDS in that short of a time frame and it doesn't get better that quickly either. It was almost certainly pulmonary edema and the proning probably wasn't indicated.
I can only imagine how difficult it is to manage a patient in a situation like this so I do empathize, but aspiration pneumonitis (the only other possible differential) doesn't occur this immediately.
Apparently he was admitted to a SICU and if a trauma surgeon was his intensivist, they probably just took the kitchen sink approach.
Mine did and that was 20 years ago.There is a requirement that all little leaguers and lacrosse players wear an approved heart protection pad.
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Dr. Pritts was a resident when I was there.I know both of the physicians at that press conference. They are excellent. Full stop.
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what you all making of news saying "neurologically intact"?
Also hope the public will appreciate the field of medicine more. No more CMS cuts? (one can dream).Let’s hope that this live coverage and publicity prompts more civilians to learn CPR or take a basic BLS course. We should be teaching more people BLS, takeaway should be prompt CPR and AEDs save lives.
Also hope the public will appreciate the field of medicine more. No more CMS cuts? (one can dream).
Oh Lord.There’s only 20-30 commotio cases reported per year and most common in little kids. The elephant in the room is the covid vaccine. I’m not saying that’s to blame but we know it’s being discussed elsewhere.
Assuming he has a normal echo, ekg, and full recovery, I wonder the odds he leaves the hospital with an ICD. Theoretically his risk of commotio is no higher than any other player. I am assuming he will still want to play and be allowed to play football. Would a defib disallow him from playing?
Perhaps he gets no ICD but he's a 24yo who arrested when no one else has, and these players get hit in the chest all the time. Anyone have any insight?
Assuming he has a normal echo, ekg, and full recovery, I wonder the odds he leaves the hospital with an ICD. Theoretically his risk of commotio is no higher than any other player. I am assuming he will still want to play and be allowed to play football. Would a defib disallow him from playing?
Perhaps he gets no ICD but he's a 24yo who arrested when no one else has, and these players get hit in the chest all the time. Anyone have any insight?
Who's dropping dead?For one I never said I believe that’s what caused his cardiac arrest. I’m saying the general public is questioning why young people are dropping dead and it certainly is something to discuss. To just immediately say it’s commotio which is ridiculously rare plus the guy had shoulder pads that cover his chest when he was hit. People on here freak out if the vaccine is even mentioned or for God’s sake questioned. So are we still pushing boosters on this forum?
Assuming he has a normal echo, ekg, and full recovery, I wonder the odds he leaves the hospital with an ICD. Theoretically his risk of commotio is no higher than any other player. I am assuming he will still want to play and be allowed to play football. Would a defib disallow him from playing?
Perhaps he gets no ICD but he's a 24yo who arrested when no one else has, and these players get hit in the chest all the time. Anyone have any insight?
Who's dropping dead?
I am still waiting for the first admit to my hospital for a covid vaccine related complication...
According to Yeshua these thousands of young patients are admitted directly to morgue. That's why u don't see them in the hospital. Nobody hears about it either because Biden and Jerome Adams sends a hit squad to take out their families too.