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Yeah I've done a couple of 180-200 hour months but they were terrible and that included some low volume work. Maybe if I didn't have spouse/kids I could work 50 hours/week but just not sustainable for most of us.
180 hrs / month lmao

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I am currently contracted to work 192 hours a month. 120 hours doing 5 24 hour shifts and then another shop doing 6 12 hour shifts.

The 24 hour shifts are at a shop where they have a doctor gym, so I get to work out for a few hours. I see an average of 21 patients per shift. Mind you, I have had an aortic dissection as well as a complete aortic occlusion on the same shift and we do see some trauma, but generally, it is a pretty chill place.

The 6 12 hour shifts are at a rural dumpster fire with no transfer agreements. However I love the staff and I feel like what I do matters.

The hours are killing me. I thought it would be ok since I "only" work 11 shifts a month.

Don't do it.

Not worth it.

Don't let anyone tell you it's worth it. They are lying.
 
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45 hours a week is a lot of emergency medicine man, that's more than some residents work. That's 5-6 shifts a week (if doing 8s), which means that either your only day off or one of your two days off will be you flipping from nights to days. Trust me, those are not days off, waking up at 1pm with a headache and forcing yourself to get out of bed then spending the rest of the day nauseous and tired. You are not going to be able to productively pursue outside business ventures, hobbies, or really anything.

It's really hard to come up with a solid number for EM pay because it varies so much based on the market, the year and who you ask, every resident plays up their job offer to make it sound better and every attending in academia inflates private pay from their end stage grass-is-greener complex. I'm not trying to perpetuate doom and gloom, but I suspect EM physicians will continue to take pay cuts as legislation against balance billing is passed and new residencies pump out grads that CMGs use to saturate even once non-competitive markets and drive down pay. But unfortunately that's the reality of every medical specialty, not just EM. Anesthesia, hospitalists and family medicine docs have it way worse than us in terms of job degradation. Maybe sub-specialty surgeons will still have high pay and more autonomy, but at the cost of working 60+ hours a week for an entire career after a decade of residency and fellowship.
We work 12's here.
 
He's a medical student. Clearly more knowledgeable on the subject of attending pay than attendings and residents.
Yes, however, my father, mother, mother-in-law, and brother are all EM attendings. I talk numbers with them constantly and also see the numbers. I'm a numbers guy. Sorry you all live in areas being scoured. Maybe your doom and gloom ish will facilitate the decrease in students applying and increase the demand.
 
An hour working in an ED in 1.5 hours doing anything else. Yep, the guy working 50 hours per week doing anything else has it better than the ED doc working "only 36" hours per week. How can that be?

Because 36 hours in the ED is actually 54 doing anything else. Yes, it's true. 40 hours in the ED in a week takes a 60 hr bite out of your soul. Don't ever forget Birdstrike's 1:1.5 hour rule. Always do the math.

This is the best free advice anyone's ever given you. You're welcome.
 
I think 1.5 may be a bit low

An hour working in an ED in 1.5 hours doing anything else. Yep, the guy working 50 hours per week doing anything else has it better than the ED doc working "only 36" hours per week. How can that be?

Because 36 hours in the ED is actually 54 doing anything else. Yes, it's true. 40 hours in the ED in a week takes a 60 hr bite out of your soul. Don't ever forget Birdstrike's 1:1.5 hour rule. Always do the math.

This is the best free advice anyone's ever given you. You're welcome.
 
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