Deferred pre-interview.

[i61164]

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This really took me by surprise. So I applied EDP to UNC (go ahead and say "I told you so" now). Here are my numbers:

GPA: 3.76
BCPM: 3.67
VR: 10
PS: 10
BS: 10

UNC has a cutoff for EDP of 3.5/30. Obviously, I just barely make the MCAT cutoff, but I make it nonetheless. Based on numbers alone, I'm not exactly a shoe-in, but I guess I didn't expect them to defer me without seeing my secondary, LORs, or interview.

So now, here I am on 8/27, having submitted AMCAS on 6/2, without a single secondary (including UNC's which I am now supposed to receive in a few weeks).

Well, I knew the risk going into this, but now I have to ask myself "Would I do it again?"

Maybe. If I thought that I at least had a shot at getting accepted early (which is what I did think), then yes. For me, the risk was worth the potential reward of being accepted by 10/1 and not having to apply to other schools. If I knew that I had no shot at getting in early (which I apparently didn't), then no. I could have applied regular admission to several schools, have some interviews in my pocket right now, and my chances of getting in to UNC would be no worse than they are right now.

 

[marr]

This really took me by surprise. So I applied EDP to UNC (go ahead and say "I told you so" now). Here are my numbers:

GPA: 3.76
BCPM: 3.67
VR: 10
PS: 10
BS: 10

UNC has a cutoff for EDP of 3.5/30. Obviously, I just barely make the MCAT cutoff, but I make it nonetheless. Based on numbers alone, I'm not exactly a shoe-in, but I guess I didn't expect them to defer me without seeing my secondary, LORs, or interview.

So now, here I am on 8/27, having submitted AMCAS on 6/2, without a single secondary (including UNC's which I am now supposed to receive in a few weeks).

Well, I knew the risk going into this, but now I have to ask myself "Would I do it again?"

Maybe. If I thought that I at least had a shot at getting accepted early (which is what I did think), then yes. For me, the risk was worth the potential reward of being accepted by 10/1 and not having to apply to other schools. If I knew that I had no shot at getting in early (which I apparently didn't), then no. I could have applied regular admission to several schools, have some interviews in my pocket right now, and my chances of getting in to UNC would be no worse than they are right now.

Cheer up!! It's depressing right now but you aren't out of the ballgame yet. Good Luck and here is some love

 

[efex101]

Yeah but you can be accepted by october 15 w/o doing edp, this is why edp is encouraged if for some reason this is the *only* school that you would be considering period...

 

[sistahnik]

I'm confused. you meet the cutoff, and what do you mean by deferred? anyway cheer up you have plenty of schools to apply to. 😍

 

[eminemunc]

How did you find this out?

 

[Bubchik]

So you did not even get a secondary? Call them up, e-mail dean of admission, show them that you really want to get there secondary plus you do meet there cut-off. You can not make it worth in any case as you have nothing to lose. If you are deferre pre-secondary can u still apply to other schools now or still have to wait till oct 1st? good luck

 

[i61164]

Yeah but you can be accepted by october 15 w/o doing edp, this is why edp is encouraged if for some reason this is the *only* school that you would be considering period...

It's not just about finding out 14 days earlier. Of course that would be silly. If you apply EDP and get in, you don't have to go through the time and effort that it takes to apply to a bunch of other schools.

If I got into any of the 125 US allopathic schools and they were the only one, I would go. That is not because I really want to go to those schools, but because I want an MD (and stay in the US for school).

However, when applying to schools, I have to ask myself why I want to go there. UNC is my first choice by a mile and now that I will undergo the unfortunate process of applying to several other schools, I will have to be extremely creative (and a good actor) to convince the other schools that they are really my top choice.

Anyway, I guess what I am saying is that I wholehearedly disagree that EDP is only for people are only willing to attend 1 school. I will be applying to a few other schools (mostly to get some practice interviewing), and if I get into one of those schools and not UNC, then of course I will attend.

 

[i61164]

I'm confused. you meet the cutoff, and what do you mean by deferred? anyway cheer up you have plenty of schools to apply to. 😍

Deferred means that I will not be accepted early and that they will look at my application along with all of the others that did not apply EDP to UNC. I'm not out of the running by any means. I was also confused. I thought that by meeting the cutoff I was guaranteed to at least be interviewed with the early applicants and that deferral could only happen after the interview. I guess not.

 

[wends]

call them or email them and see whats up, show interest if UNC is your first choice!

im so sorry about your situation, i know it sucks a million.....!! but hang in there 🙂

 

[i61164]

How did you find this out?

I spoke to both Lisa and Randee on the phone this morning. Randee broke the news. I know it's not the end of the world, but I couldn't help being disappointed.

 

[i61164]

call them or email them and see whats up, show interest if UNC is your first choice!

im so sorry about your situation, i know it sucks a million.....!! but hang in there 🙂

Thanks. I have no intention of giving up. I'll be calling and writing letters till the bitter end...Plus I have tons of great reasons why UNC will be perfect for me. I'm sure that they will be impressed.

 

[i61164]

So you did not even get a secondary? Call them up, e-mail dean of admission, show them that you really want to get there secondary plus you do meet there cut-off. You can not make it worth in any case as you have nothing to lose. If you are deferre pre-secondary can u still apply to other schools now or still have to wait till oct 1st? good luck

I will still get a secondary (I hope! ) sometime in September/October, I've just been stripped of my EDP status. I guess I just misunderstood what the 3.5/30 cutoff really meant. Apparently there's no guarantee that you'll get to interview early.

The tiny silver lining is that I will be released now so that I do not have to wait until 10/1 to apply to other schools. This means that I can get my application in ahead of the August MCATers, which in the event that UNC ultimately rejects me, could turn out to be important.

 

[Radio Edit]

It sucks that you submitted Amcas on 6/2 and now on 8/27 you still have no secondaries

 

[YzIa]

I will still get a secondary (I hope! ) sometime in September/October, I've just been stripped of my EDP status. I guess I just misunderstood what the 3.5/30 cutoff really meant. Apparently there's no guarantee that you'll get to interview early.

The tiny silver lining is that I will be released now so that I do not have to wait until 10/1 to apply to other schools. This means that I can get my application in ahead of the August MCATers, which in the event that UNC ultimately rejects me, could turn out to be important.

For EDP most schools recommend only extremely qualified applicants apply. Even then <50% are accepted early. It seems you did not realize that to be accepted as an EDP you typically must be well above the schools average stats and be a very strong applicant. Good luck on regular admissions.

 

[i61164]

For EDP most schools recommend only extremely qualified applicants apply. Even then <50% are accepted early. It seems you did not realize that to be accepted as an EDP you typically must be well above the schools average stats and be a very strong applicant. Good luck on regular admissions.

If only a fraction of people who are "well above" average stats (by which I assume you mean that only GPA/MCAT are considered) can get in EDP, then why isn't the cutoff 3.75/36?

 

[i61164]

It sucks that you submitted Amcas on 6/2 and now on 8/27 you still have no secondaries

Indeed it does.

 

[YzIa]

If only a fraction of people who are "well above" average stats (by which I assume you mean that only GPA/MCAT are considered) can get in EDP, then why isn't the cutoff 3.75/36?

Cut offs are exactly what they are. I am sure the cutoffs at this school for admissions are something like 7-8s, but do you think someone with the bare minimum has a decent shot of getting in?

In the case of EDP is commonly known (I thought) that statistically you should be superior to most applicants.

Our pre-med advisor was blatant, she was very against anyone choosing edp, but said really no shot unless a 34+ MCAT and great all around. Then again, she is not an adcom member.

 

[medtechv79]

I'd cheer up, yer still in the running. Remember in early admissions yer competing against some really strong applicants maybe even some with a 4.0 and very high MCAT. Maybe to UNC yer just make the cutoff but compared to other applicants you just didn't cut it? Its hard to say. I'd call the admissions place and see why u didn't get a secondary u have nothing to lose by asking. And this could show them how interested u are in their school. Maybe even write them a letter or email...ANything in writing people will take seriously as opposed ot a phone call....I hope it works out for you!

 

[YzIa]

What I am trying to convey is as EDP, you have to be someone they want to drop all for and get into the program. Something, most likely many things that make you head and heels a great candidate. You sould like a solid applicant, but on paper you like like ~20% of the applicants. Schools are going to just wait until they have more of the applicant pool to compare you too before they make a decision. I feel its when you are in the upper 5-10% and have great EC's going for you is when a school will make a commitment to you in Aug/Sept.

 

[i61164]

What I am trying to convey is as EDP, you have to be someone they want to drop all for and get into the program. Something, most likely many things that make you head and heels a great candidate. You sould like a solid applicant, but on paper you like like ~20% of the applicants. Schools are going to just wait until they have more of the applicant pool to compare you too before they make a decision. I feel its when you are in the upper 5-10% and have great EC's going for you is when a school will make a commitment to you in Aug/Sept.

I realize that by the stats I'm not in the top 5-10% of applicants. The fact that I got deffered isn't even a shock. What surprized me was to get deferred pre-interview. If I'm going to interview eventually anyway, why not now? The obvious answer is that there are too many EDP applicants to interviews them all in September. In that case, they had to rank the EDP applicants and defer those at the bottom. I don't know how many EDP applicants there are, but that is a little scary. With this line of reasoning, I was at the bottom of a very long list. Then again, maybe there weren't that many EDP applicants. It seems to me that people are generally too afraid to apply EDP for fear of screwing up their chances at other schools. I have an MSAR that's a couple of years old that shows UNC accepted 7 people EDP. I wonder how many interviewed EDP.

Maybe they could only interview 20 and they had 50 applicants, for example. In that case, I hope I was number 21.

 

[YzIa]

I realize that by the stats I'm not in the top 5-10% of applicants. The fact that I got deffered isn't even a shock. What surprized me was to get deferred pre-interview. If I'm going to interview eventually anyway, why not now? The obvious answer is that there are too many EDP applicants to interviews them all in September. In that case, they had to rank the EDP applicants and defer those at the bottom. I don't know how many EDP applicants there are, but that is a little scary. With this line of reasoning, I was at the bottom of a very long list. Then again, maybe there weren't that many EDP applicants. It seems to me that people are generally too afraid to apply EDP for fear of screwing up their chances at other schools. I have an MSAR that's a couple of years old that shows UNC accepted 7 people EDP. I wonder how many interviewed EDP.

Maybe they could only interview 20 and they had 50 applicants, for example. In that case, I hope I was number 21.

The only stats I have seen were of the sort 5-10 accepted or 10-20... Different school of course.
Best of luck.