Do any DO students match derm?

[allantois]

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Are you basing it off the percentages in each specialty?

The merger is pushing AOA specialty residencies into closure. Seeing how many DOs match into ACGME specialty spots, it is very unlikely that all of the sudden ACGME residency directors will change their attitudes towards DO students.

In the meantime, nurses are trying to make their way into lucrative derm (just wait for them to pronounce that there are not enough dermatologists being trained by medical programs) with no intention of following any standarts set up by medical boards. AMA should have focused their efforts on containing these fake nurse doctors instead of working on DO/MD residency merger, which benefits absolutely no one.

http://health.usf.edu/nocms/nursing/AdmissionsPrograms/DNA_Dermatology_Residency_Presentation.pdf

"The purpose of the program is to prepare the graduates for advanced independent practice in the specialty of dermatology.."

Now, who wants to tell me what AOA derm residency is worse in terms of preparing clinicians than this program which will teach you nursing activism at doctorate level among other nursing care nonsense?

 

[Gandyy]

How long do you guys think it will take Residency Program directors to realize that DO Medical School is just as rigorous as MD Medical School?

 

[allantois]

How long do you guys think it will take Residency Program directors to realize that DO Medical School is just as rigorous as MD Medical School?

They will never realize it; just look at the attitude towards CNU, pretty much all criticism directed towards them can be applied to DO schools: a few faculty for a huge population of students, lack of prominent MD faculty in respective fields, no significant research, weak ties to hospitals for student clinical years, etc

 

[Gandyy]

They will never realize it; just look at the attitude towards CNU, pretty much all criticism directed towards them can be applied to DO schools: a few faculty for huge class sizes of students, lack of prominent MD faculty in respective fields, etc

Don't you think its incredible how intelligent residency program directors with so many accomplishments can hold such a bias?

 

[jbuc1081]

If the merger is fully implemented by 2020, what about the people starting school this year that graduate in 2019? Is it an all or nothing merger, meaning everything will fully change at the same time, or is it a cumulative thing that will take place in increments over the next 5 years? I have not seen anything that directly addresses this question, so I figured why not ask.

 

[Gandyy]

If the merger is fully implemented by 2020, what about the people starting school this year that graduate in 2019? Is it an all or nothing merger, meaning everything will fully change at the same time, or is it a cumulative thing that will take place in increments over the next 5 years? I have not seen anything that directly addresses this question, so I figured why not ask.

Its a cumulative thing. Almost everything will have merged by 2019 according what I've read about the merger. I think its just that everything HAS TO BE DONE by 2020 which is why they set that year.

My understanding is that its like a construction site job. They have a date by when it has to be absolutely done, but a lot of it will be done in the proximal time before it.

If you start school this year, I understand you will be heavily affected by this merger.

 

[jbuc1081]

Its a cumulative thing. Almost everything will have merged by 2019 according what I've read about the merger. I think its just that everything HAS TO BE DONE by 2020 which is why they set that year.

My understanding is that its like a construction site job. They have a date by when it has to be absolutely done, but a lot of it will be done in the proximal time before it.

If you start school this year, I understand you will be heavily affected by this merger.

Awesome. I look forward to being a guinea pig! It's already hard enough to get into and out of medical school, so why not face a little more adversity?

 

[allantois]

Awesome. I look forward to being a guinea pig! It's already hard enough to get into and out of medical school, so why not face a little more adversity?

All residencies have to obtain ACGME accreditation by 2020 or cease to exist. For instance the program where my derm trained, which has been around for 15 years, has started the later process.

http://opportunities.osteopathic.org/search/search_details.cfm?program_id=146377&hosp_id=1..

"Our program will be closing as of June 30th, 2014"

 

[Gandyy]

All residencies have to obtain ACGME accreditation by 2020 or cease to exist. For instance the program where my derm trained, which has been around for 15 years, has started the later process.

http://opportunities.osteopathic.org/search/search_details.cfm?program_id=146377&hosp_id=1..

"Our program will be closing as of June 30th, 2014"

Yea I cant say how badly DO's will be hurt or what will change for DO grads, but Caribbean grads better not get a single spot over a DO.

Since Residency directors are going to play the "Where you went to Med School " Game.

 

[becomingdoctor]

All residencies have to obtain ACGME accreditation by 2020 or cease to exist. For instance the program where my derm trained, which has been around for 15 years, has started the later process.

http://opportunities.osteopathic.org/search/search_details.cfm?program_id=146377&hosp_id=1..

"Our program will be closing as of June 30th, 2014"

I guess what will happen after 2020 is:
1. less specialty DO residency (Derm, ENT, NS etc)
2. will accept USMLE instead of COMLEX
Since the single match system is not on the table yet, what will happen is MD applicants will participate in DO match process ( for competitive specialties)

 

[Gandyy]

I guess what will happen after 2020 is:
1. less specialty DO residency (Derm, ENT, NS etc)
2. will accept USMLE instead of COMLEX
Since the single match system is not on the table yet, what will happen is MD applicants will participate in DO match process ( for competitive specialties)

This is what I fear will happen to DO applicants. Worst case scenario is DO applicants get shoved out by MD applicants in most specialties.

 

[medp63]

Those who matched ACGME Derm/Vascular Sx/ Integrated Plastic/ Ortho/ ENT/ and Thoracic Sx had serious ballz skipping the AOA match. Good for them.

I know a girl who matched acgme and skipped AOA and matched on Friday. It can be done. The key is away rotations.Dermatology

 

[NotYY4U]

This is what I have always wondered about. If you are a DO student and do 2-3 rotations in a competitive specialty and at the same site and rock it, why would they not take you?

 

[Isoval]

Several people from a school where I have been accepted matched ACGME dermatology.

 

[medp63]

Several people from a school where I have been accepted matched ACGME dermatology.

That's great! What school?

 

[Isoval]

That's great! What school?

UNTHSC-TCOM.

Also on the match page (of note):
- multiple (at least 15) matches to Baylor College of Medicine within specialties across the board
- a person matching Johns Hopkins in PM&R
- multiple (at least 3) couples matches to various locations
- a person receiving a triple board residency (pediatrics/child psych/adult psych(?))

And that’s only from what I read.

 

[Alienman52]

We (ACOM) had an ACGME derm match.

 

[medp63]

We (ACOM) had an ACGME derm match.

That's great!

 

[IndieKush]

RowanSOM had an ACGME derm match this year.