Do any DO students match derm?

[Postictal Raiden]

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Sounds like your school sucks.

So does yours 😉

 

[Gandyy]

LMAO.... I'm pretty sure he's not at KCUMB. You're off by about 1,600 miles

Ok so hes not at KCUMB then ... lol. His prior posts made me think that.

 

[Stagg737]

Nothing wrong with your approach and I wish you the best of luck.

That said, don't settle for any DO school. Try your best to get accepted to the better ones. All state affiliated ones (TCOM, MSU, Ohio, etc...) plus KCUMB (I'm in love with their curriculum) come to mind.

Come do our curriculum for a year and then tell me if you still love it. Personally I like it a lot, but there's a very high potential for burnout and a lot of us are already toast. We aren't done until basically July and we start up again first Monday of August. It's miserable and great at the same time, but as long as I do well on boards (along with the rest of my classmates) it'll all be worth it.

I'd also add RVU to that list. They're still new, but their board scores have been nothing other than very solid, and their most recent match list was pretty impressive, especially for a school that's only graduated a few classes.

I think he is at KCUMB. I'm pretty sure KCUMB does not suck.

99% sure he doesn't go here, but we don't suck. Last year's USMLE step 1 average was a 226, which was just under the national average and well above several MD school averages. I also believe around 75% of our students take both tests (I'm positive at least 2/3 take it, maybe more than 75% do since usually about 60% of our grads go into ACGME programs), so it's a pretty significant number. Those numbers are also only expected to go up, and our dean has told us he's made some bets with other professionals that my class' COMLEX level 1 average will be 560+

 

[Gandyy]

Come do our curriculum for a year and then tell me if you still love it. Personally I like it a lot, but there's a very high potential for burnout and a lot of us are already toast. We aren't done until basically July and we start up again first Monday of August. It's miserable and great at the same time, but as long as I do well on boards (along with the rest of my classmates) it'll all be worth it.

I'd also add RVU to that list. They're still new, but their board scores have been nothing other than very solid, and their most recent match list was pretty impressive, especially for a school that's only graduated a few classes.



99% sure he doesn't go here, but we don't suck. Last year's USMLE step 1 average was a 226, which was just under the national average and well above several MD school averages. I also believe around 75% of our students take both tests (I'm positive at least 2/3 take it, maybe more than 75% do since usually about 60% of our grads go into ACGME programs), so it's a pretty significant number. Those numbers are also only expected to go up, and our dean has told us he's made some bets with other professionals that my class' COMLEX level 1 average will be 560+

There is a chance I might end up at kcumb next year. Who know though with thos nerve wracking process

 

[user3]

Come do our curriculum for a year and then tell me if you still love it. Personally I like it a lot, but there's a very high potential for burnout and a lot of us are already toast. We aren't done until basically July and we start up again first Monday of August. It's miserable and great at the same time, but as long as I do well on boards (along with the rest of my classmates) it'll all be worth it.

I'd also add RVU to that list. They're still new, but their board scores have been nothing other than very solid, and their most recent match list was pretty impressive, especially for a school that's only graduated a few classes.



99% sure he doesn't go here, but we don't suck. Last year's USMLE step 1 average was a 226, which was just under the national average and well above several MD school averages. I also believe around 75% of our students take both tests (I'm positive at least 2/3 take it, maybe more than 75% do since usually about 60% of our grads go into ACGME programs), so it's a pretty significant number. Those numbers are also only expected to go up, and our dean has told us he's made some bets with other professionals that my class' COMLEX level 1 average will be 560+

KCUMB really seems on the up and up. It kills me to see them open another campus when they already seem to be doing quite well with their current campus/class. Honestly, if they could trim the class size to 100 they would have nearly MD level admissions and likely be able to offer strong rotation sites for every student.

 

[Gandyy]

KCUMB really seems on the up and up. It kills me to see them open another campus when they already seem to be doing quite well with their current campus/class. Honestly, if they could trim the class size to 100 they would have nearly MD level admissions and likely be able to offer strong rotation sites for every student.

The only schools that are going to hit MD average anytime soon are the NY and CA Touros. MAYBE CCOM. Thats about it.

 

[user3]

The only schools that are going to hit MD average anytime soon are the NY and CA Touros. MAYBE CCOM. Thats about it.

If most of the older schools cut their class sizes to 100ish, instead of 200-300+, I think they could approach the the 3.6/30 mark (or close).

 

[Gandyy]

If most of the older schools cut their class sizes to 100ish, instead of 200-300+, I think they could approach the the 3.6/30 mark.

perhaps, but I dont see them doing that lol

 

[Stagg737]

There is a chance I might end up at kcumb next year. Who know though with thos nerve wracking process

If you've got any questions let me know. I do work with admissions, so I can probably give you better answers about it than most of the other students on here (and possibly easier than contacting admissions, but they'd be the best source, obviously).

The only schools that are going to hit MD average anytime soon are the NY and CA Touros. MAYBE CCOM. Thats about it.

Even with a class size of 270ish, we're not too far off. The class coming in this fall has an MCAT average about 29 and c and sGPAs of over 3.65. Statistically speaking we've gotten stronger every year for the past 3 years, and it looks like the admins are planning on continuing that trend.

KCUMB really seems on the up and up. It kills me to see them open another campus when they already seem to be doing quite well with their current campus/class. Honestly, if they could trim the class size to 100 they would have nearly MD level admissions and likely be able to offer strong rotation sites for every student.

Yea, I'm conflicted about it. It's going to be a completely independent school, and it's pretty much already been funded. The Joplin community and local hospital system pledged around $120 million to help construct it, along with a clinical facility that was built but has not been used (will be part of the new campus). Idk how the new school will do, I guess time will tell, but it from what we've been told they are essentially a completely separate school from us and we won't be losing any resources because of it.

From what I've gathered about clinical years, pretty much every student will have 2-3 strong rotations, and then it's kind of a crap-shoot. I think that's part of why they've introduced a track system here with 6 or 7 different specialties. So students that know they want to enter a certain field will be guaranteed a solid rotation in that area as long as they're in that track. While I do think we would have much higher entrance stats if we cut the class size, I don't particularly care about pre-matriculation compared to board scores and match lists. We may not be the best in the country in either of those categories, but we do consistently have strong match lists (even compared to some MD schools), and our board scores have been steadily climbing. Add in the fact that we're now using a curriculum that's resulted in 2 other schools consistently putting up the best Level 1 scores in the country and I'm not too worried about how our stats are going to look.

 

[Gandyy]

If you've got any questions let me know. I do work with admissions, so I can probably give you better answers about it than most of the other students on here (and possibly easier than contacting admissions, but they'd be the best source, obviously).



Even with a class size of 270ish, we're not too far off. The class coming in this fall has an MCAT average about 29 and c and sGPAs of over 3.65. Statistically speaking we've gotten stronger every year for the past 3 years, and it looks like the admins are planning on continuing that trend.



Yea, I'm conflicted about it. It's going to be a completely independent school, and it's pretty much already been funded. The Joplin community and local hospital system pledged around $120 million to help construct it, along with a clinical facility that was built but has not been used (will be part of the new campus). Idk how the new school will do, I guess time will tell, but it from what we've been told they are essentially a completely separate school from us and we won't be losing any resources because of it.

From what I've gathered about clinical years, pretty much every student will have 2-3 strong rotations, and then it's kind of a crap-shoot. I think that's part of why they've introduced a track system here with 6 or 7 different specialties. So students that know they want to enter a certain field will be guaranteed a solid rotation in that area as long as they're in that track. While I do think we would have much higher entrance stats if we cut the class size, I don't particularly care about pre-matriculation compared to board scores and match lists. We may not be the best in the country in either of those categories, but we do consistently have strong match lists (even compared to some MD schools), and our board scores have been steadily climbing. Add in the fact that we're now using a curriculum that's resulted in 2 other schools consistently putting up the best Level 1 scores in the country and I'm not too worried about how our stats are going to look.

Well if you work with admissions, how do you think my chances are of being accepted there with a balanced 29 and a 3.7 gpa assuming I have decent EC's

 

[Stagg737]

Well if you work with admissions, how do you think my chances are of being accepted there with a balanced 29 and a 3.7 gpa assuming I have decent EC's

Can't say anything for sure, but if KCU is somewhere you'd seriously like to go/learn more about I'd strongly encourage you to apply. I think you'd have a pretty strong shot at an interview, and we have very high post-interview acceptance rates. Biggest advice is to apply very early. Our number of applicants grew over 40% from the previous cycle and the incoming class was full by December. I don't think any students that interviewed after October were accepted because the class was full (other than students from the college of biosciences), and this will likely occur in future cycles as well.

Feel free to PM me if you've got more specific questions. I'm happy to help.

 

[ComputerGuy365]

Just curious, what specialities do M4's match with low board scores besides FM? Can they match OB or Psych pretty easily as well?

 

[67552931811]

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[user3]

If you've got any questions let me know. I do work with admissions, so I can probably give you better answers about it than most of the other students on here (and possibly easier than contacting admissions, but they'd be the best source, obviously).



Even with a class size of 270ish, we're not too far off. The class coming in this fall has an MCAT average about 29 and c and sGPAs of over 3.65. Statistically speaking we've gotten stronger every year for the past 3 years, and it looks like the admins are planning on continuing that trend.



Yea, I'm conflicted about it. It's going to be a completely independent school, and it's pretty much already been funded. The Joplin community and local hospital system pledged around $120 million to help construct it, along with a clinical facility that was built but has not been used (will be part of the new campus). Idk how the new school will do, I guess time will tell, but it from what we've been told they are essentially a completely separate school from us and we won't be losing any resources because of it.

From what I've gathered about clinical years, pretty much every student will have 2-3 strong rotations, and then it's kind of a crap-shoot. I think that's part of why they've introduced a track system here with 6 or 7 different specialties. So students that know they want to enter a certain field will be guaranteed a solid rotation in that area as long as they're in that track. While I do think we would have much higher entrance stats if we cut the class size, I don't particularly care about pre-matriculation compared to board scores and match lists. We may not be the best in the country in either of those categories, but we do consistently have strong match lists (even compared to some MD schools), and our board scores have been steadily climbing. Add in the fact that we're now using a curriculum that's resulted in 2 other schools consistently putting up the best Level 1 scores in the country and I'm not too worried about how our stats are going to look.

will it be a branch campus like PCOM/PCOM-GA or a satellite campus ("additional location") like LECOM-Erie/Lecom-SH?

 

[Stagg737]

@ComputerGuy365 There are a lot of 'non-competitive' fields. From what I've read/seen, the easy ones to match into are FM, psych, OB/Gyn, and IM and to a slightly lesser extent EM, PMR, and path. I may be off or forgetting 1 or 2, so someone can feel free to correct me. Keep in mind, there's a big difference between matching into a field and matching into a good program/location within that field. Just because it's easy to match into psych doesn't mean it's easy to match into psych at a program like Harvard or Yale.

will it be a branch campus like PCOM/PCOM-GA or a satellite campus ("additional location") like LECOM-Erie/Lecom-SH?

From what I understand it's a satellite campus. They'll be 2 completely separate schools under the same name.

 

[user3]

Well if you work with admissions, how do you think my chances are of being accepted there with a balanced 29 and a 3.7 gpa assuming I have decent EC's

relax, I have seen plenty of people here with <27 still get in to KCUMB.

 

[drdoom12]

5 DOs matched Acgme derm in 2015. Interestingly, 1 DO, who I think is the first ever, matched acgme integrated plastic surgery this year, too. http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Main-Match-Results-and-Data-2015_final.pdf

49 AOA dermatology spots were available in 2015 https://www.natmatch.com/aoairp/stats/2015prgstats.html. You match AOA dermatology as an intern; not as a medical student. Consequently, you will not see AOA dermatology matches on schools' match lists. However, some (or all?) of these AOA spots may not exist by the time you match.

So the only way for a DO to match Derm straight out of medical school is to match into ACGME, right? And since DO's match first, you basically have to forego the DO match to be considered for Derm immediately after school as a DO, correct? What do you match into if you want to be considered for Derm after a year as an intern?

 

[Gandyy]

Just curious, what specialities do M4's match with low board scores besides FM? Can they match OB or Psych pretty easily as well?

If you are scoring low in standardized tests in an already unlevel playing field (DO Schools), then you are probably headed for FM.

Edit: I do not understand why people care about derm so much. Its irritating when I hear because of the "lavish lifestyle". If you are worried about a super lavish lifestyle why did you go into medicine in the first place? Plus, jesus it would be so boring to just cut moles off of people's skin and diagnosing skin disorders all day.

 

[AlteredScale]

Just curious, what specialities do M4's match with low board scores besides FM? Can they match OB or Psych pretty easily as well?

If you score low on Step 1 and Step 2. You'll be applying to primary care specialties via AOA at small community hospitals. With the merge occurring who knows what will happen, those programs may be shut down if they don't meet the O-ACGME accred standards.

I would say, Psych, PM&R, Path, FM, and Primary Care Tracked IM are the types of specialties you'll be considering with low board scores.

 

[Gandyy]

If you score low on Step 1 and Step 2. You'll be applying to primary care specialties via AOA at small community hospitals. With the merge occurring who knows what will happen, those programs may be shut down if they don't meet the O-ACGME accred standards.

I would say, Psych, PM&R, Path, FM, and Primary Care Tracked IM are the types of specialties you'll be considering with low board scores.

Wait are you saying DO students in the future who barely pass their exams may not place at all?

Thats Caribbean status.

 

[AlteredScale]

Wait are you saying DO students in the future who barely pass their exams may not place at all?

Thats Caribbean status.

No I don't think the cut in the AOA programs will squeeze DO grads to the point where many are left jobless.

I don't think it'll be a huge cut IMO, since the accreditation guidelines for osteopathic residency programs are augmented a bit compared to the guidelines of university ACGME res. progs.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

If you are scoring low in standardized tests in an already unlevel playing field (DO Schools), then you are probably headed for FM.

Edit: I do not understand why people care about derm so much. Its irritating when I hear because of the "lavish lifestyle". If you are worried about a super lavish lifestyle why did you go into medicine in the first place? Plus, jesus it would be so boring to just cut moles off of people's skin and diagnosing skin disorders all day.

Have you been out of school and worked a big job yet? I thought the same thing until I did. There is something to be said about putting in as few hours as you can, do stimulating work, meanwhile making insane cash.

I think derm hourly pay is something like $350-425. Why do EM and work for $275 an hour and have terrible hours through the middle of the night, working with drug seekers and psychotics when you could work from 9-5 and make more money.

For what it's worth, I have no desire for derm, but all the same, I get the allure.

Side note, Mohs surgery is sick.

 

[Gandyy]

Have you been out of school and worked a big job yet? I thought the same thing until I did. There is something to be said about putting in as few hours as you can, do stimulating work, meanwhile making insane cash.

I think derm hourly pay is something like $350-425. Why do EM and work for $275 an hour and have terrible hours through the middle of the night, working with drug seekers and psychotics when you could work from 9-5 and make more money.

For what it's worth, I have no desire for derm, but all the same, I get the allure.

Side note, Mohs surgery is sick.

Ive worked full time as a phlebotomist and have had to go "on call" on the weekends sometimes. I've worked as a research assistant for 15 hours a week while in undergrad for all 4 years of undergrad.

Both of these jobs came with god awful compensation. So yea I do understand the reality and I'm not a "romanticizing" pre-med.

My statement allures to more Surgical specialties. Which one sounds like more fun to you?

General Surgery or Dermatology? Answer is pretty clear for me even though General Surgery lifestyle is bad

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

Ive worked full time as a phlebotomist and have had to go "on call" on the weekends sometimes. I've worked as a research assistant for 15 hours a week while in undergrad for all 4 years of undergrad.

Both of these jobs came with god awful compensation. So yea I do understand the reality and I'm not a "romanticizing" pre-med.

My statement allures to more Surgical specialties. Which one sounds like more fun to you?

General Surgery or Dermatology? Answer is pretty clear for me even though General Surgery lifestyle is bad

You know what sounds fun?

Having time to go home and cut your giant lawn that you bought with your derm salary. Or spending the evening and weekends with your kids because you don't have call because people rarely ever have a skin crisis heh.

I mean in the end this doesn't matter much. You are a random dude on the internet, same as me. But again, I get it... Look at all of the competitive specialties out there, they are competitive because of economics, plain and simple. Rate of return is good for what you put in, regardless of what the work is.

 

[Gandyy]

You know what sounds fun?

Having time to go home and cut your giant lawn that you bought with your derm salary. Or spending the evening and weekends with your kids because you don't have call because people rarely ever have a skin crisis heh.

I mean in the end this doesn't matter much. You are a random dude on the internet, same as me. But again, I get it... Look at all of the competitive specialties out there, they are competitive because of economics, plain and simple. Rate of return is good for what you put in, regardless of what the work is.

Cutting a giant lawn doesnt sound fun lol.

I guess if you are wanting a highly competitive specialty only because of the money/time aspect then thats on those people.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

Cutting a giant lawn doesnt sound fun lol.

I guess if you are wanting a highly competitive specialty only because of the money/time aspect then thats on those people.

We will just have to agree to disagree on the first point 😉

On the second point. I really do agree with you. I feel like, if I am spending all of this time and energy in medical school, that I personally want something that really impacts the people that I am treating. All of my rambling has more or less to say that I can understand the allure. I was really just answering your original question of basically "what's up with why people throw themselves at derm?"

 

[MiaMia14]

Just curious, what specialities do M4's match with low board scores besides FM? Can they match OB or Psych pretty easily as well?

OB was really competitive this year. I don't know about the DO match, but there were 0 open spots in he MD match this year. People were matching way lower on their match lists than expected as well. That being said, I was average (board scores and gpa) and I matched. If you are below average or have failed any of the licensing exams I would say your chances are pretty low. Can't comment on psych.

 

[Gandyy]

We will just have to agree to disagree on the first point 😉

On the second point. I really do agree with you. I feel like, if I am spending all of this time and energy in medical school, that I personally want something that really impacts the people that I am treating. All of my rambling has more or less to say that I can understand the allure. I was really just answering your original question of basically "what's up with why people throw themselves at derm?"

Yes indeed.

 

[cliquesh]

So the only way for a DO to match Derm straight out of medical school is to match into ACGME, right? And since DO's match first, you basically have to forego the DO match to be considered for Derm immediately after school as a DO, correct? What do you match into if you want to be considered for Derm after a year as an intern?

Yes, the only way to match derm straight out of medical school is to match acgme.

Yes, the AOA match is before the AOA match.

You do an AOA traditional rotating internship after osteopathic medical school and you apply for a derm residency during that internship year. Additionally, some AOA dermatology residencies have linked programs with AOA family medicine residencies. In those programs, you most complete the family medicine residency then you move on to derm.

 

[Iridescent]

Yes, the only way to match derm straight out of medical school is to match acgme.

Yes, the AOA match is before the AOA match.

You do an AOA traditional rotating internship after osteopathic medical school and you apply for a derm residency during that internship year. Additionally, some AOA dermatology residencies have linked programs with AOA family medicine residencies. In those programs, you most complete the family medicine residency then you move on to derm.

That seems like a waste of time. Why do FM and then derm?

 

[allantois]

That seems like a waste of time. Why do FM and then derm?

Because as practice have shown, there will always be enough people willing to do anything for derm: including completing another residency first or taking a residency position with no compensation whatsoever, or both!

 

[Iridescent]

Because as practice have shown people will do anything for derm: including completing another residency first or taking a residency position which pays nothing to its residents.

That's insane. The paying nothing thing I can see, but wasting 3 years of your life to go back to training sounds like a terrible idea.

 

[allantois]

That's insane. The paying nothing thing I can see, but wasting 3 years of your life to go back to training sounds like a terrible idea.

It's only 6 years of training instead of 4, so wasting 2 years? I believe all programs that offer no compensation to its residents will be shut down under the residency merger.

Also, I guess you could moonlight as a FP while doing a derm residency for no pay if you do a FM residency first 😀

 

[notbobtrustme]

Just curious, what specialities do M4's match with low board scores besides FM? Can they match OB or Psych pretty easily as well?

If you want it, you can get it with just about any score. Even at my low tier MD school, we've had plastics matches with Step 1 <240. There are derm matches with <240. Sure, they had to work like dogs to make up for their score, but if you put the work in, you can succeed in matching competitively as an MD.

The same situation as a DO is definitely not similar.

 

[67552931811]

Ive worked full time as a phlebotomist and have had to go "on call" on the weekends sometimes. I've worked as a research assistant for 15 hours a week while in undergrad for all 4 years of undergrad.

Both of these jobs came with god awful compensation. So yea I do understand the reality and I'm not a "romanticizing" pre-med.

My statement allures to more Surgical specialties. Which one sounds like more fun to you?

General Surgery or Dermatology? Answer is pretty clear for me even though General Surgery lifestyle is bad

O God, neither... I'd take FM all day, every day. (I'm aware my response has nothing to do with your guy's convo, just wanted to describe my for both of those fields).

 

[Goro]

Chiming in again, I was just looking over a list of where all my school's grads ended up in residency over the past ten years, and sure enough, about five of the ~1000 students were in a Residency program. Rare, but literally not impossible. We sent one kid to Harvard in a different specialty. Our PM&R grads get to really "big name" places.

Cue the Meattorpedo to come in, sputtering "but, but, no DOs at NYU IM!"

 

[cliquesh]

+1. All the PMR peeps I've met have got into huge university affiliated programs in the East Coast. They were all required to do a pre-lim year first which they enjoy because it sort of serves as their "break" before they get beat down for another 3 years. With that being said, I haven't met a single DO student who hasn't taken Step 1 tbh...

I bet a vast majority of your students take Step 1 and 2. All this skepticism is a bunch of bull. Even more reason why DO all day everyday over the islands...

http://www.usmle.org/performance-data/default.aspx#2013_step-1

There were about 5500 DO grads in 2015. Approximately 2700, or 50%, of them probably took step 1.

Interestingly, the DO usmle step 1 pass rate has improved dramatically in the last 5 years from ~80% to 94%.

 

[Goro]

My students regard COMLEX as a necessary evil.

+1. All the PMR peeps I've met have got into huge university affiliated programs in the East Coast. They were all required to do a pre-lim year first which they enjoy because it sort of serves as their "break" before they get beat down for another 3 years. With that being said, I haven't met a single DO student who hasn't taken Step 1 tbh...

I bet a vast majority of your students take Step 1 and 2. All this skepticism is a bunch of bull. Even more reason why DO all day everyday over the islands...

 

[swollcat]

http://www.usmle.org/performance-data/default.aspx#2013_step-1

There were about 5500 DO grads in 2015. Approximately 2700, or 50%, of them probably took step 1.

Interestingly, the DO usmle step 1 pass rate has improved dramatically in the last 5 years from ~80% to 94%.

Nice

 

[Goro]

Tell that to NBOME!

Very true, but the test writers should really consider remodeling it and making it up to par with USMLE. I Keep hearing how antiquated COMLEX is in comparison to USMLE.

 

[silvermecca]

If you are scoring low in standardized tests in an already unlevel playing field (DO Schools), then you are probably headed for FM.

Edit: I do not understand why people care about derm so much. Its irritating when I hear because of the "lavish lifestyle". If you are worried about a super lavish lifestyle why did you go into medicine in the first place? Plus, jesus it would be so boring to just cut moles off of people's skin and diagnosing skin disorders all day.

I agree! I would find Derm very boring! Just my thoughts. I did not go into medicine just to "make the big bucks". I would just like to be able to pay off my loans that I need for the next four years and hopefully help my parents out in their old age (that I have contributed years to with this journey) and make a decent living for myself, future wife and children. Not really concerned what type of car I will be driving, type of clothing or watches I will be wearing or amount of floor space of my home. I don't want anyone to feel I am better than they are because of my lifestyle. Not my intention of becoming a doctor. The best doctor and human being I have ever met sponsors a village in Nepal and actually helped Mother Teresa at one time. Gave up his huge family home in Philadelphia to move to Nepal. Now HERE is a man!

 

[Dreamstoo]

Derm is incredibly competitive. You really have to be the cream of the crop of your class and DOs nationwide.

 

[zero0]

I'll take derm if nobody else wants it...

 

[meliora27]

Tl;dr

KCU(MB) has had a couple ACGME Derm matches over the last few years.

 

[meliora27]

Tell that to NBOME!

As long as the check clears, the NBOME likely doesn't care at all.

 

[Gurame1121]

Not too sure of the details but my friend's father was a DO geriatric doctor before doing a second residency in derm. Not sure how the hell he pulled off those acrobatics, but he seems to be doing quite well now.

 

[silvermecca]

We have a DO doctor in this area that is in derm!

 

[becomingdoctor]

I dont know where all the "matched in to derm" come from, but according to NRMP data, between 2011-2015, there is only one DO student matched into ACGME dermatology residency. It is most likely the guy in UC Davis program. I am not sure if the pre-matched and SOAP data is included in the NRMP report.
here is the link, go to page 39
http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Main-Match-Results-and-Data-2015_final.pdf

 

[allantois]

I dont know where all the "matched in to derm" come from, but according to NRMP data, between 2011-2015, there is only one DO student matched into ACGME dermatology residency. It is most likely the guy in UC Davis program. I am not sure if the pre-matched and SOAP data is included in the NRMP report.
here is the link, go to page 39
http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Main-Match-Results-and-Data-2015_final.pdf

I see the future is bright for the DO students with this merger coming up..

(It's not)

 

[nRomaleos]

I see the future is bright for the DO students with this merger coming up..

(It's not)

Are you basing it off the percentages in each specialty?