DO friendly Orthopedic Surgery Residencies

[Jug27]

Does anyone know about any DO friendly allopathic orthopedic surgery residencies? If i wanna go into orthopedic surgery/sports medicine...does it matter if i do an allopathic or osteopathic residency? I know its a very very competitive residency to get into. Thanks for your help!

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[DRLEWISDO]

There are many many "DO friendly" orthopedic residencies. All things being considered a DO student has just as good a chance (or better) than an MD student. It is not lost on Orthopedic program directors the importance of our musculoskeletal education and how much OMM may help in giving us additional treatment modalities. Trust me on this. If a DO is just as qualified (similar COMLEX scores vs USMLE, LOR, etc..) as an MD applicant they have an excellent chance at securing a top notch ortho program. I see no reason why you cannot match at a top orthopedics training program. You have to remember that as a DO student, you are an American Grad. Program Directors make huge distinctions between American Grads (DO and MD) vs. Foreign Grads. They generally could care less if you are a DO or MD , it is all the same to them, as long as you are American trained. If you are an FMG, there is NO CHANCE for an ortho spot...NONE. ZILCH...NADA... I hope this helps.

Dr Lewis

 

[OSUdoc08]

There are many many "DO friendly" orthopedic residencies. All things being considered a DO student has just as good a chance (or better) than an MD student. It is not lost on Orthopedic program directors the importance of our musculoskeletal education and how much OMM may help in giving us additional treatment modalities. Trust me on this. If a DO is just as qualified (similar COMLEX scores vs USMLE, LOR, etc..) as an MD applicant they have an excellent chance at securing a top notch ortho program. I see no reason why you cannot match at a top orthopedics training program. You have to remember that as a DO student, you are an American Grad. Program Directors make huge distinctions between American Grads (DO and MD) vs. Foreign Grads. They generally could care less if you are a DO or MD , it is all the same to them, as long as you are American trained. If you are an FMG, there is NO CHANCE for an ortho spot...NONE. ZILCH...NADA... I hope this helps.

Dr Lewis

I'm not sure if you are trolling, or are really that uninformed.

Allopathic orthopedic residencies are VERY DIFFICULT to get into, even if you are an M.D.

They are very biased towards to M.D.'s, and you will have to do exceptionally well in order to beat out an M.D. applicant.

In addition the AOA residency spots are very competitive, and very limited.

You pretty much have to be in the top of the class, and make great USMLE scores----it is rare for any allopathic surgical program to accept the COMLEX.

My information comes from several current DO orthopedic residents.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Does anyone know about any DO friendly allopathic orthopedic surgery residencies? If i wanna go into orthopedic surgery/sports medicine...does it matter if i do an allopathic or osteopathic residency? I know its a very very competitive residency to get into. Thanks for your help!

I would recommend an AOA residency, so you can incorporate the OMM component, which is very vital to sports injuries.

It would be difficult to get into many allopathic residencies, as they are very competitive.

 

[cutaway]

There are many many "DO friendly" orthopedic residencies. All things being considered a DO student has just as good a chance (or better) than an MD student. It is not lost on Orthopedic program directors the importance of our musculoskeletal education and how much OMM may help in giving us additional treatment modalities. Trust me on this. If a DO is just as qualified (similar COMLEX scores vs USMLE, LOR, etc..) as an MD applicant they have an excellent chance at securing a top notch ortho program. I see no reason why you cannot match at a top orthopedics training program.
Dr Lewis

Say wha? Account on hold indeed.

As a DO 4th year, I find the above to be simply wrong. A very few osteopathic students (like less than 5, if any) match each year in allopathic ortho slots. To do so, they doubtless have great grades, great USMLE scores (allo gen surg, let alone ortho, has very little patience with COMLEX scores), killer sub-I evaluations, research, etc. All ortho programs get swamped with apps every year - they can afford to be picky and they don't have to make allowances for anybody, DO's, IMG's, FMG's - whatever.

Osteopathic ortho is highly competitive as well, although my impression is that it's ever so slightly easier to get in, being limited to DO students... Combine that with the fact that for a DO to successfully match to a allopathic ortho program requires that you skip the osteopathic match (1 mo earlier) and any chance at possible DO slots to take a *long* shot at a MD slot. That takes breathtaking self-confidence...or foolhardiness. Especially given that many DO ortho programs have excellent reputations.

If you want to go to some major university Ortho program, Harvard, Yale, Stanford - better go MD... and be prepared to excel.

If you just want to be an orthopod, DO is a perfectly good option. But excel regardless.

-C

 

[Bull's eye]

Say wha? Account on hold indeed.

As a DO 4th year, I find the above to be simply wrong. A very few osteopathic students (like less than 5, if any) match each year in allopathic ortho slots. To do so, they doubtless have great grades, great USMLE scores (allo gen surg, let alone ortho, has very little patience with COMLEX scores), killer sub-I evaluations, research, etc. All ortho programs get swamped with apps every year - they can afford to be picky and they don't have to make allowances for anybody, DO's, IMG's, FMG's - whatever.

Osteopathic ortho is highly competitive as well, although my impression is that it's ever so slightly easier to get in, being limited to DO students... Combine that with the fact that for a DO to successfully match to a allopathic ortho program requires that you skip the osteopathic match (1 mo earlier) and any chance at possible DO slots to take a *long* shot at a MD slot. That takes breathtaking self-confidence...or foolhardiness. Especially given that many DO ortho programs have excellent reputations.

If you want to go to some major university Ortho program, Harvard, Yale, Stanford - better go MD... and be prepared to excel.

If you just want to be an orthopod, DO is a perfectly good option. But excel regardless.

-C

Great post. dead on. On the otherhand, that is also why you only see like 5-10 DO's Matching into Allopathic ortho programs a year. (See bolded statement)

 

[capone2975]

Is there a place to check what type of residencies and where they are located that are DO?

 

[bobo]

This drlewis clown is obviously a troll.

 

[VUMD2be]

check out mcg's (medical college of georgia) orthopaedic surgery residency website. They have had several (ie 3) DOs match in recent years.
http://www.mcg.edu/resident/ortho/currentres.html

 

[Dr JPH]

Allopathic ortho residencies are tough to get regardless of your degree, MD or DO.

I wouldnt apply to only top notch allo programs and wait for an interview.

 

[medic170]

Allopathic ortho residencies are tough to get regardless of your degree, MD or DO.

I wouldnt apply to only top notch allo programs and wait for an interview.

Right! The only Ortho residencies with a friendly description would be (230+ USMLE friendly ortho residencies) from what I have been told.

 

[VentdependenT]

There are many many "DO friendly" orthopedic residencies. All things being considered a DO student has just as good a chance (or better) than an MD student. It is not lost on Orthopedic program directors the importance of our musculoskeletal education and how much OMM may help in giving us additional treatment modalities. Trust me on this. If a DO is just as qualified (similar COMLEX scores vs USMLE, LOR, etc..) as an MD applicant they have an excellent chance at securing a top notch ortho program. I see no reason why you cannot match at a top orthopedics training program. You have to remember that as a DO student, you are an American Grad. Program Directors make huge distinctions between American Grads (DO and MD) vs. Foreign Grads. They generally could care less if you are a DO or MD , it is all the same to them, as long as you are American trained. If you are an FMG, there is NO CHANCE for an ortho spot...NONE. ZILCH...NADA... I hope this helps.

Dr Lewis

You are mistaken.

 

[medic170]

There are many many "DO friendly" orthopedic residencies. All things being considered a DO student has just as good a chance (or better) than an MD student. It is not lost on Orthopedic program directors the importance of our musculoskeletal education and how much OMM may help in giving us additional treatment modalities. Trust me on this. If a DO is just as qualified (similar COMLEX scores vs USMLE, LOR, etc..) as an MD applicant they have an excellent chance at securing a top notch ortho program. I see no reason why you cannot match at a top orthopedics training program. You have to remember that as a DO student, you are an American Grad. Program Directors make huge distinctions between American Grads (DO and MD) vs. Foreign Grads. They generally could care less if you are a DO or MD , it is all the same to them, as long as you are American trained. If you are an FMG, there is NO CHANCE for an ortho spot...NONE. ZILCH...NADA... I hope this helps.

Dr Lewis

For a practicing doctor, you sure are uninformed and full of misinformation 🙄

BTW, you don't like it when us MD's rip on osteopaths do you? Well, you are doing the same immature thing to the IMG's in most of your posts.

OP, when it comes to competitve residency (not skill level, education, or real life) the totem pole GENERALLY goes MD>DO>IMG.