Do I want to be in SF, LA, or SD?

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UCSBMed1 said:
Wow, this thread has resorted to Bay Area bashing...

And you wonder why we don't like Southern California... 😡

And we hate you guys because..because.. Honestly, I can't think of a reason. You are a gaurunteed playoff victory normally. Now Texas, they gave us the current president and sent home the Lakers the last two times. I can honestly speak for SoCal and say we really really hate them.

PS. I'm in Sacramento this week. Recommend anything fun to do??
 
Jalby said:
And we hate you guys because..because.. Honestly, I can't think of a reason. You are a gaurunteed playoff victory normally. Now Texas, they gave us the current president and sent home the Lakers the last two times. I can honestly speak for SoCal and say we really really hate them.

PS. I'm in Sacramento this week. Recommend anything fun to do??

You have the following options to have a "good 'ole" time in Sacramento:
1) Cowtipping (very popular with the folks in Davis I hear)
2) Go squaredancing
3) Go to a "Ho-down" (whatever the fock that is)
4) See if Garth Brooks is in town and go to the show..
5) Drink and "be merry"
6) Play horseshoes
7) Go trailerhopping (similar to clubhopping and barhopping)
 
I'm sure nobody cares what I have to say, but I actually prefer SF and the Bay area to LA! LA is too hot, too polluted, and too pretentious! Also, people drive like crap here (I know it's the same in SF)! If you're anywhere in Westwood, you have to watch out for the crazy drivers in their X5s and Land Rovers (please note the hyperbole!)
 
Jalby said:
And we hate you guys because..because.. Honestly, I can't think of a reason. You are a gaurunteed playoff victory normally. Now Texas, they gave us the current president and sent home the Lakers the last two times. I can honestly speak for SoCal and say we really really hate them.

PS. I'm in Sacramento this week. Recommend anything fun to do??

And who said SoCalers had "California love?" Only Cali love below San Luis Obispo... 😡

Like I would honestly do that after all the **** you give me. Hope you have a grand spankin' time! Yeeehaaaa! Might I recommend just staying in LA? Don't want to ruin your picture of an ideal California, too bad we're a part of it huh? Too bad the state was FOUNDED up here huh?

It might surprise you that people in Sac don't drive John Deere tractors and ring their da*n cowbells all day long... 🙄

I'm SOOO glad that I got in to school up here, don't EVER have to go back to SoCal if I don't want to...

I hope you guys really have fun making fun of NorCal (and now it seems its turned to Sacramento). The very fact that you do that just perpetuates the stereotypical Southern Californian.

I think its really sad you guys have to make fun of us just to make yourselves feel better. Does it justify the traffic jams? Or the smog? Or the superficiality? Or the housing prices? How about no football teams? I hope it does guys, I really do...for your sake...

I'm just gonna turn the other cheek, cause believe it or not, I've gotten this **** a lot over the years. Trust me, the NorCal-SoCal thing DEFINATELY started in LA. 🙄 🙄
 
I find it strange that not many med students or med students-to-be are ever apologetic or can admit wrong (not only on sdn).

The first thread in which you are referring discussed the topic at hand, but no one posted the actual listing. The second thread was started to seek the actual listing. Asking those who disagree with rankings to refrain from flaming is demanding? I sincerely apologize for being a bit demanding for your/others taste. I'm not going to initiate hatred between users on an internet board. Whether the thread was demanding or not, your post was a bit unnecessarily rude, and I hope you can at least admit that.

Eraserhead said:
I always have the urge to do this- make a second thread similar to a first with certain words changed, but in this case I was not able to resist as the post was blatantly demanding and annoyed the hell out of me. Jalby is on top of things. :laugh: :laugh: I don't think LA in necessarily more diverse than the bay area, its just a hell of alot bigger...
 
cbc said:
I'm not going to initiate hatred between users on an internet board.

Of course not. You would NEVER do something like that.
 
guns still ablazin'...this thread is great :clap:
 
You need to find a role model or something. I hope someday you can let go of the hatred you have against me, hatred stemming from my knowledge of what your former students said about you. You should seriously consider not letting it bother you this much. It's really not healthy.

Jalby said:
Of course not. You would NEVER do something like that.
 
hmmm . . . you have lived here for a while and you still haven't figured out that the Bay Area isn't 8 miles by 8 miles. I live 45 minutes from San Francisco in a very non-sardine neighborhood (every house has at least a half acre, most more) and I'm still in the Bay Area. Every place has its good, bad, and ugly.
I have lived in both norcal and socal-they both have their positives and negatives. Personally I like norcal better, but I am not going to go postal on people who say they like socal. Someone really needs to learn how to deal with people not agreeing with them!


BerkeleyPremed said:
People in the Bay Area will just refuse to admit how LA, Orange County, and San Diego are SOOOO much superior to the filthy, smelly bay area. Well, I don't blame them...they live like sardines in a filthy 8 mile by 8 mile plot of land full homeless people, narrow and winding streets chock full of traffic that would make ANY driver want to pull their hair out in frustration, and absolutely horrible weather.

As for "culture"...stuffing a bunch of contemporary art and/or modern film snobs into a small building and letting them schmooze like the dilettantes they are doesn't really constitute "culture." Go to the SF MOMA and you'll see what I mean...it's absolutely pathetic.

People here keep talking about "diversity"...and I noticed how everyone is fixated on ethnic diversity. What about political diversity? Geographic diversity (attracting people from other parts of the country/globe)? The Bay Area is HORRIBLY homogeneous when it comes to political discourse seeing as practically everyone in the Bay Area is liberal. And despite how "open-minded" they say they are..they'll easily shut out any conservative point-of-view.

What's so diverse about tons of people that all think alike? Aren't you more likely to learn more from interacting with people that have different political opinions than yourself? The Bay Area would completely fail when it comes to attracting people from other parts of the country and different places around the globe. No one really wants to spend $1200/month living in a studio apartment (that was constructed in the 1950s) in a dirty, filthy, crime-riddled gutter like Berkeley... when they can live in a lovely, spacious, newly constructed 1 or 2 bedroom apartment in a quiet, safe, and posh neighborhood in Los Angeles for the same amount of money. Economically, why would ANY visitor actually want to stay and live in the Bay Area when they can get SO much more bang for their buck living in Los Angeles or Orange County?

To say that I dislike the Bay Area is a GROSS understatement.
 
The "bay area" in which you are referring is probably limited to downtown SF and berkeley. Anyone with a tidbit knowledge about the bay area would laugh at the your statement if the bay area you are referring includes San Jose, Fremont, Palo Alto, Foster City, or Marin. The comparison you made is the same as, who would pick to live in the filthy slum of downtown LA and skid row when one can live in the luxurious mansions of Hillsborough. Don't include Orange County or SD as LA in your comparison if you are only referring to the city of SF and berkeley as the bay area.

The culture most people think of regarding SF is not that there are nice museums. None of those pathetic SF museams could ever compare to those in Rome or the Getty. The "culture" that most people refer regarding SF is that Chinatown, Japantown, Little Italy, Castro, Mission district (a community of hispanics), Daly City (a community of Filipinos), Union Square and shopping centers and tourist attractions and diners in the downtown business district, Alcatraz, cable cars, Golden Gate bridge (one of modern wonders of the world), the hippy Haight St, Golden Gate park (as famous as Central Park of NYC), the red light district, on and on with the diverse scenaries all within a 15 mile radius. Walk for 30 min and the entire scenary changes from asian to european back to asian. Most people also say Boston has a high sense of culture. It's not the museums in Boston, but the history there that make Boston a "cultural" city.

In terms of political diversity, you are correct in the sense that everyone in SF is rather liberal. However, that liberal thinking translates to encouraging everyone NOT to think alike. Other than thinking alike by being liberal, every other thinking is different. SF, by being liberal as a whole, welcomes those who are radical, or conservative, or moderate, etc. No liberal San Franciscan is going to frown upon one who is conservative. Switch it to the South, and you'll see that the South (sometimes even in Socal) will frown upon radicals and liberals. You will not get the same faces if you walk around with full body piercing or tattoo in SF compared to the South. Similarly, if you are anti-abortion, or Orthodox Catholics, or believes in war, no SFan is going to frown upon you for holding that belief and probably will respect/encourage your individuality. So, I do get your point about the political diversity that almost everyone thinks like a liberal, but I don't think you fully understand the details of the diversified thinking one is encouraged to have in SF.

BerkeleyPremed said:
People in the Bay Area will just refuse to admit how LA, Orange County, and San Diego are SOOOO much superior to the filthy, smelly bay area. Well, I don't blame them...they live like sardines in a filthy 8 mile by 8 mile plot of land full homeless people, narrow and winding streets chock full of traffic that would make ANY driver want to pull their hair out in frustration, and absolutely horrible weather.

As for "culture"...stuffing a bunch of contemporary art and/or modern film snobs into a small building and letting them schmooze like the dilettantes they are doesn't really constitute "culture." Go to the SF MOMA and you'll see what I mean...it's absolutely pathetic.

People here keep talking about "diversity"...and I noticed how everyone is fixated on ethnic diversity. What about political diversity? Geographic diversity (attracting people from other parts of the country/globe)? The Bay Area is HORRIBLY homogeneous when it comes to political discourse seeing as practically everyone in the Bay Area is liberal. And despite how "open-minded" they say they are..they'll easily shut out any conservative point-of-view.

What's so diverse about tons of people that all think alike? Aren't you more likely to learn more from interacting with people that have different political opinions than yourself? The Bay Area would completely fail when it comes to attracting people from other parts of the country and different places around the globe. No one really wants to spend $1200/month living in a studio apartment (that was constructed in the 1950s) in a dirty, filthy, crime-riddled gutter like Berkeley... when they can live in a lovely, spacious, newly constructed 1 or 2 bedroom apartment in a quiet, safe, and posh neighborhood in Los Angeles for the same amount of money. Economically, why would ANY visitor actually want to stay and live in the Bay Area when they can get SO much more bang for their buck living in Los Angeles or Orange County?

To say that I dislike the Bay Area is a GROSS understatement.
 
cbc said:
The "bay area" in which you are referring is probably limited to downtown SF and berkeley. Anyone with a tidbit knowledge about the bay area would laugh at the your statement if the bay area you are referring includes San Jose, Fremont, Palo Alto, Foster City, or Marin. The comparison you made is the same as, who would pick to live in the filthy slum of downtown LA and skid row when one can live in the luxurious mansions of Hillsborough (which is 20 min drive from downtown SF, no traffic except from 5-7pm).

He's just a Berkeley student without a car. Poor kids.
 
Eraserhead said:
He's just a Berkeley student without a car. Poor kids.

very true. if my only experience with the bay area was living in berkeley I would probably say the same thing. most people up here consider berkeley the sh*thole of the bay area . . .
 
celticmists18 said:
very true. if my only experience with the bay area was living in berkeley I would probably say the same thing. most people up here consider berkeley the sh*thole of the bay area . . .

I agree 100%. I mean if you include Marin, the South Bay, etc. these statements are unreasonable and unwarranted IMO...

I just went hiking through Muir Woods to Stinson Beach yesterday... its good to get out of the ****hole once in awhile as much as I love it 🙂
 
cbc said:
The "bay area" in which you are referring is probably limited to downtown SF and berkeley. Anyone with a tidbit knowledge about the bay area would laugh at the your statement if the bay area you are referring includes San Jose, Fremont, Palo Alto, Foster City, or Marin. The comparison you made is the same as, who would pick to live in the filthy slum of downtown LA and skid row when one can live in the luxurious mansions of Hillsborough. Don't include Orange County or SD as LA in your comparison if you are only referring to the city of SF and berkeley as the bay area.

The culture most people think of regarding SF is not that there are nice museums. None of those pathetic SF museams could ever compare to those in Rome or the Getty. The "culture" that most people refer regarding SF is that Chinatown, Japantown, Little Italy, Castro, Mission district (a community of hispanics), Daly City (a community of Filipinos), Union Square and shopping centers and tourist attractions and diners in the downtown business district, Alcatraz, cable cars, Golden Gate bridge (one of modern wonders of the world), the hippy Haight St, Golden Gate park (as famous as Central Park of NYC), the red light district, on and on with the diverse scenaries all within a 15 mile radius. Walk for 30 min and the entire scenary changes from asian to european back to asian. Most people also say Boston has a high sense of culture. It's not the museums in Boston, but the history there that make Boston a "cultural" city.

In terms of political diversity, you are correct in the sense that everyone in SF is rather liberal. However, that liberal thinking translates to encouraging everyone NOT to think alike. Other than thinking alike by being liberal, every other thinking is different. SF, by being liberal as a whole, welcomes those who are radical, or conservative, or moderate, etc. No liberal San Franciscan is going to frown upon one who is conservative. Switch it to the South, and you'll see that the South (sometimes even in Socal) will frown upon radicals and liberals. You will not get the same faces if you walk around with full body piercing or tattoo in SF compared to the South. Similarly, if you are anti-abortion, or Orthodox Catholics, or believes in war, no SFan is going to frown upon you for holding that belief and probably will respect/encourage your individuality. So, I do get your point about the political diversity that almost everyone thinks like a liberal, but I don't think you fully understand the details of the diversified thinking one is encouraged to have in SF.

This could not be further from the truth. The Bay Area liberals WOULD FROWN upon someone with conservative views...in fact, I know many Berkeley liberals that are very intolerant of conservative opinions. Right-wingers routinely get bashed in the Bay Area and your characterization that people in SoCal would frown upon radical liberals while people in the Bay Area wouldn't frown upon conservatives is sooooooo far from the mark. People in SoCal are much more politically disengaged...are there NEARLY as many protests in LA as there are in SF? Do the police have to be called out routinely to handle the protests in LA like the SFPD and BPD have to handle the protests in the Bay Area? No. This is mainly because people in Los Angeles actually have jobs, careers, etc and have better things to do with their time than protest and get beaten senseless by the police.

Of COURSE Bay Area liberals would NOT encourage conservative viewpoints from being expressed...this is clearly evident from the shouting, yelling, and other brainless acts of "political dissent" exhibited in Bay Area protests. Bay Area liberals would gladly shout down and suppress conservative viewpoints. This was reinforced when David Horowitz came to give a speech in Berkeley and was yelled at and almost physically assaulted to the point where he couldn't even deliver the speech (Horowitz is VERY much the conservative). So much for Bay Area liberals "welcoming those who are radical, conservative, or moderate."

Yes, even San Jose and the South Bay pale in comparison to the Greater Los Angeles area. Since we're looking at the south bay, we're not comparing metropolitan areas. We're comparing the suburbs of LA against the suburbs of SF...and the suburbs of LA are sooooooooo much nicer than the suburbs of SF. I'll grant that Marin County has some very beautiful towns (Belvedere, Ross, Tiburon, etc). However, the property values here are so ridiculously inflated that no visitor would actually want to move their family to the Bay Area because they wouldn't want to pay $1.2 million for a 3 bedroom house. Atherton is also very nice but pales in comparison to the nicest suburbs of Los Angeles. Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Brentwood, Santa Monica, West Hills, Encino, Tarzana, and Porter Ranch can blow the suburbs of SF out of the water. If you want to include Orange County (since we're looking at the greater Los Angeles area), Newport Beach and Irvine are also awesome places to live.
 
celticmists18 said:
very true. if my only experience with the bay area was living in berkeley I would probably say the same thing. most people up here consider berkeley the sh*thole of the bay area . . .
Uh, Berkeley is one of the best college towns in the country -- if you like records stores, book stores, cafes, or non-Hollywood movies. Those things can outweigh any faults the city may have. If you don't, then it's probably not the city for you.

I'm much more concerned with the quality of undergraduate education there. The professors are still great, but due to state budget cuts and the low tuition (compared to other state schools, not to mention private schools), class sizes have become unbearable, graduate students do too much of the teaching, etc., etc. I'm sure you've heard all this before.
 
UCSBMed1 said:
And who said SoCalers had "California love?" Only Cali love below San Luis Obispo... 😡

Like I would honestly do that after all the **** you give me. Hope you have a grand spankin' time! Yeeehaaaa! Might I recommend just staying in LA? Don't want to ruin your picture of an ideal California, too bad we're a part of it huh? Too bad the state was FOUNDED up here huh?

It might surprise you that people in Sac don't drive John Deere tractors and ring their da*n cowbells all day long... 🙄

I'm SOOO glad that I got in to school up here, don't EVER have to go back to SoCal if I don't want to...

I hope you guys really have fun making fun of NorCal (and now it seems its turned to Sacramento). The very fact that you do that just perpetuates the stereotypical Southern Californian.

I think its really sad you guys have to make fun of us just to make yourselves feel better. Does it justify the traffic jams? Or the smog? Or the superficiality? Or the housing prices? How about no football teams? I hope it does guys, I really do...for your sake...

I'm just gonna turn the other cheek, cause believe it or not, I've gotten this **** a lot over the years. Trust me, the NorCal-SoCal thing DEFINATELY started in LA. 🙄 🙄

wah wah wah. you have some bad experiences and you're ready to make such ******ed generalizations about socal. have it your way... i know plenty of us will be enjoying both halves of this wonderful state while you guys have a little pissing contest.

and btw, why don't you back up your statement about the norcal-socal thing starting in LA?
 
t733nu5 said:
wah wah wah. you have some bad experiences and you're ready to make such ******ed generalizations about socal. have it your way... i know plenty of us will be enjoying both halves of this wonderful state while you guys have a little pissing contest.

and btw, why don't you back up your statement about the norcal-socal thing starting in LA?


He probably just made up the part about the norcal/socal hate starting in LA. The Bay Area is so very pathetic...it leaves SO much to be desired. How anyone could be happy living here is absolutely beyond me.
 
Again, stop limiting yourself to Berkeley. I can guarantee that Horowitz would receive a warm welcome if he gave the same speech at Stanford. I personally know many people outside the city of San Francisco who have extremely conservative views. There are anti-abortion rallies and protests occurring every year. One should seek more to the meaning of life if fighting for what one truly believes is considered a waste of time. Of course, socalifornians know so well how to spend time better by being stuck in traffic (including OC) every day.

Have you lived in the San Jose or Woodside area for more than 2 yrs? I've lived in both Beverly Hills and southern Orange County for more than 2 yrs each, as well as the city of SF and the other bay areas. I personally cannot see the "sooooooooo much nicer" in the areas you are referring. Although nor and socal are a tidbit different, they are both excellent residential areas and similar in the quality of life (if we begin comparing LA with Nebraska or England, you'll know exactly what I mean) and one should select what fits their personality. The OP is not benefitting from all this bashing, and neither is anybody else.

Thanks for giving me the bad karma. There's a lot of hatred in you, both against Berkeley and anyone in its proximity/support. You can appreciate so many things around you by focusing on the positives and not make generalizations based on local experience. Live it up.

BerkeleyPremed said:
This could not be further from the truth. The Bay Area liberals WOULD FROWN upon someone with conservative views...in fact, I know many Berkeley liberals that are very intolerant of conservative opinions. Right-wingers routinely get bashed in the Bay Area and your characterization that people in SoCal would frown upon radical liberals while people in the Bay Area wouldn't frown upon conservatives is sooooooo far from the mark. People in SoCal are much more politically disengaged...are there NEARLY as many protests in LA as there are in SF? Do the police have to be called out routinely to handle the protests in LA like the SFPD and BPD have to handle the protests in the Bay Area? No. This is mainly because people in Los Angeles actually have jobs, careers, etc and have better things to do with their time than protest and get beaten senseless by the police.

Of COURSE Bay Area liberals would NOT encourage conservative viewpoints from being expressed...this is clearly evident from the shouting, yelling, and other brainless acts of "political dissent" exhibited in Bay Area protests. Bay Area liberals would gladly shout down and suppress conservative viewpoints. This was reinforced when David Horowitz came to give a speech in Berkeley and was yelled at and almost physically assaulted to the point where he couldn't even deliver the speech (Horowitz is VERY much the conservative). So much for Bay Area liberals "welcoming those who are radical, conservative, or moderate."

Yes, even San Jose and the South Bay pale in comparison to the Greater Los Angeles area. Since we're looking at the south bay, we're not comparing metropolitan areas. We're comparing the suburbs of LA against the suburbs of SF...and the suburbs of LA are sooooooooo much nicer than the suburbs of SF. I'll grant that Marin County has some very beautiful towns (Belvedere, Ross, Tiburon, etc). However, the property values here are so ridiculously inflated that no visitor would actually want to move their family to the Bay Area because they wouldn't want to pay $1.2 million for a 3 bedroom house. Atherton is also very nice but pales in comparison to the nicest suburbs of Los Angeles. Beverly Hills, Bel Air, Brentwood, Santa Monica, West Hills, Encino, Tarzana, and Porter Ranch can blow the suburbs of SF out of the water. If you want to include Orange County (since we're looking at the greater Los Angeles area), Newport Beach and Irvine are also awesome places to live.
 
merle said:
Uh, Berkeley is one of the best college towns in the country -- if you like records stores, book stores, cafes, or non-Hollywood movies. Those things can outweigh any faults the city may have.


Ah.... the reasons why I chose Berkeley .... pretty much everything else there sucks though (the class size, the lack of guidance, the teaching style, etc.), besides the architechture.... you can hang out in some cool buildings and stuff.
 
Sorry, just one more thing. The bay area experienced the greatest migration and influx of people in the country just around 3-5 yrs ago. The inflated price is caused by the demands of people from all parts of the country trying to move there, not by native norcalifornians who are trying to keep people out.
 
BerkeleyPremed said:
He probably just made up the part about the norcal/socal hate starting in LA. The Bay Area is so very pathetic...it leaves SO much to be desired. How anyone could be happy living here is absolutely beyond me.

dude you're the other half of the pissing contest though. i've been up to norcal and it's just one of those things- different strokes for different folks.

you and ucsbmed are just throwing a ball of **** around and not stating much objectively. you both are biased as ****. look at his posting history and yours...

no offense bro.
 
t733nu5 said:
dude you're the other half of the pissing contest though. i've been up to norcal and it's just one of those things- different strokes for different folks.

you and ucsbmed are just throwing a ball of **** around and not stating much objectively. you both are biased as ****. look at his posting history and yours...

no offense bro.


Yeah. Us totally unbiased people can clearly tell you that SoCal is soo much better than NoCal.
 
Jalby said:
Yeah. Us totally unbiased people can clearly tell you that SoCal is soo much better than NoCal.

its soooo hot in LA!!! wish i could be at the beach right now.
 
Jalby said:
Yeah. Us totally unbiased people can clearly tell you that SoCal is soo much better than NoCal.

at least that's my preference :laugh:
 
Jalby said:
Yeah. Us totally unbiased people can clearly tell you that SoCal is soo much better than NoCal.

And as a totally unbiased gay male, I can tell you San Francisco is better. :laugh:
 
Looks like we are going to have a Cali civil war. It may not be a bad idea to split the Golden State into N. Cal and S. Cal. J/K .... "Can we just all get along?" - Rodney King
 
Funny that you ask about these three places...LA is my hometown (Santa Monica to be specific), I currently live in San Francisco, and I have visited San Diego extensively (my grandma used to live in La Jolla). For all of these three cities, I'd say the neighborhood you choose to live in makes or breaks the experience. If you are looking for chill and laidback, LA might not be the scene for you, although it can be fun, depending on the location - westside is typically best (santa monica, brentwood, westwood, etc). San Diego - La Jolla - is sunny, great place to get a tan, laid back, but possibly a bit too mellow for my own personal taste. I personally would recommend SF, because there are so many great little neighborhoods, you could definitely find one that fits your style - some areas are a little dirty, but yeah, in comparison to NY pretty pristine. Plus, the nightlife here is really fun, lots of fun community events that bring people together, weather can be a bit of a bummer but i am currently sitting in ninety degree sunny weather, so its not always bad. If you are considering med school wise, UCSF is by far the best place to get an education! If you have any more questions about these cities, feel free to let me know, i'd be happy to help.
 
i second that...and plus, if you're thinking of the "Bay area" (like Berkely), yeah pretty lame, but San Francisco is an awesome city - i went to school in palo alto, wouldn't reccommend living there, but i am now in SF which i definitely did not appreciate before. And i am originally from LA, so don't consider me biased - love it, but wouldn't want to be there now



t733nu5 said:
dude you're the other half of the pissing contest though. i've been up to norcal and it's just one of those things- different strokes for different folks.

you and ucsbmed are just throwing a ball of **** around and not stating much objectively. you both are biased as ****. look at his posting history and yours...

no offense bro.
 
t733nu5 said:
wah wah wah. you have some bad experiences and you're ready to make such ******ed generalizations about socal. have it your way... i know plenty of us will be enjoying both halves of this wonderful state while you guys have a little pissing contest.

and btw, why don't you back up your statement about the norcal-socal thing starting in LA?

Have you even read this thread?

The reason why I don't like Southern Californians that much is because they are so into themselves. Just look at posts by Jalby, or BerkeleyPremed.

They don't just say how good it is to live where they're from (which is fine of course) but they resort to PERSONAL attacks on the Bay Area and Sacramento. I love my home, but when I hear people talk about it when they've never even been there, or haven't spent much time there, just pisses me off. I don't think its kosher to make fun of someone's home where they've grown up, fallen in love, etc.

Southern Californians are in love with themselves, with their beaches, and with their money. That is why I don't like them. Not because I don't think its nice, but their personalities are so polar opposites of ours, that it made living there unbearable.

Notice I don't resort to personal attacks against LA. I'm not going to do that. The remarks we do make against SoCal are solely in self defense, not out of loathing. I wish my southern California brethren thought the same thing...
 
UCSBMed1 said:
Just look at posts by Jalby

Seriously, look up sarcasm in the dictionary. Granted, I have talked about the Sacramento Queens enough, but at no time did I do a "personal attack" on Northern Cali.
 
Jalby said:
Seriously, look up sarcasm in the dictionary. Granted, I have talked about the Sacramento Queens enough, but at no time did I do a "personal attack" on Northern Cali.

I really don't think its funny bro, I really don't.

Aren't you the first one to jump on some SDN peeps if they begin to talk about Watts? I'm sure you don't take that stuff lightly, and neither do the people of the Central Valley.

We don't think that sh*ts funny at all. Period.
 
Hey Legend, I think there's actually some serious thought going into splitting up the state. It's just getting way too big to handle. Even though I'm a SoCal person for life, we need NorCal much more than they need us. We have lots of people and Hollywood, that's about it.
 
Yeah, personal attacks are not nice.

Anyways, we need Norcal for their water...
 
I'd like to see again the Sac Queens against the LA butt-Lickers again, hopefully in the playoffs this yr.
 
Let me resolve this flamewar.

The correct answer was Orange County.
 
The webmonster speaks. 😱 But they have Santa Ana, Westminster, Garden Grove, and Fountain Valley....
 
hamhamfan said:
The webmonster speaks. 😱 But they have Santa Ana, Westminster, Garden Grove, and Fountain Valley....
For this question, Huntington Beach, Seal Beach, Newport Beach, or Dana Point are all acceptable answers. San Clemente is partial credit.
 
Don't forget Laguna Beach, Balboa and Corona del Mar. However, driving home after a tiring day on PCH and waiting for the pedestrians to finish crossing over in HB can be a real annoyance.... Newport Beach is just awesome though.

I had always thought that SDN was from Oklahoma or somewhere in the midwest though....
 
I always wondered why you California people apply to ~30+ schools. I underestimated the sheer number of schools in that state.
 
CA has like 7 allo schools and like 2 osteo schools.
 
hamhamfan said:
Don't forget Laguna Beach, Balboa and Corona del Mar. However, driving home after a tiring day on PCH and waiting for the pedestrians to finish crossing over in HB can be a real annoyance.... Newport Beach is just awesome though.

I had always thought that SDN was from Oklahoma or somewhere in the midwest though....
I'll give you credit for those as well. 🙂

Depending on which way you're traveling, you should try Adams instead of PCH -- there are too many tourists on PCH.

SDN is made-up of the contribution of students throughout the world -- but the actual servers are located in downtown LA.
 
Lee and ham, did you guys grow up in The OC?
 
I grew up in FV and Santa Ana. FV is by no means ghetto. There are million dollar houses there and is very middle class.
 
FVHS. Go Barons! I was supposed to go to Los Amigos...
 
Nah, Masuda. I went to all the FV school district schools. I was embarrassed as a kid when people asked my elementary school name....Cox. Even as a 9 year old I understood the hidden meaning.
 
thank god for 24 hour mexican food joints in sd.
 
scota said:
I'm sure nobody cares what I have to say, but I actually prefer SF and the Bay area to LA! LA is too hot, too polluted, and too pretentious! Also, people drive like crap here (I know it's the same in SF)! If you're anywhere in Westwood, you have to watch out for the crazy drivers in their X5s and Land Rovers (please note the hyperbole!)
LA is too pretentious, so you prefer SF? Pah!! Pah ha ha ha ha ha ha! I suppose you think that the Gaza Strip is a good way to avoid the violence of LA, no?
 
celticmists18 said:
hmmm . . . you have lived here for a while and you still haven't figured out that the Bay Area isn't 8 miles by 8 miles.

San Francisco is the smallest big city in the United States -- at 49 square miles, it's only about one-tenth the size of Los Angeles.
From http://travel.e-scape.net/usa/ca/sf/sf.html

Sorry, it's 7 miles by 7 miles. Or do you not know that Marin and Alameda counties are not part of San Francisco?
 
Nutmeg said:
Sorry, it's 7 miles by 7 miles. Or do you not know that Marin and Alameda counties are not part of San Francisco?

There is no need to be so rude about it. If you will notice I was talking about the BAY AREA. This is not a synonym for San Francisco but rather for the area which includes San Francisco, San Jose, as well as San Mateo and Santa Clara counties (and probably a bunch more places I'm not listing). This thread really should be closed since it has degenerated into people fighting/insulting people over something as stupid as which part of the state they prefer.
 
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