Originally posted by UCSBMed1
Could you be anymore biased???
I could say many similar things about LA (South Central, downtown, East LA, etc) but I'll spare you.
If you want to live in a place that is so into themselves that they think anyone living outside of SoCal is a hick, then pick SoCal. If you want to live in a fast-paced city similar to the East Coast (but more laid back) and with culture, then chose San Francisco.
WRONG. To all of you who are saying, "What about South Central??" South Central does NOT have a homicide rate that comes even close to the homicide rate in Oakland. You are MUCH more likely to be shot and killed walking around the streets of Oakland at night than you are walking around the streets of LAs hardest ghettos (South Central, Inglewood, Crenshaw, Watts, etc). Oakland IS MORE dangerous than these areas. Sorry to break it to you...Oakland is practically just as bad as Detroit, Michigan...
So many parts of the Bay Area have a nasty, lingering stench...it's so utterly repulsive. Fisherman's Wharf (obviously...all that fish, seafood, etc) smells like a huge sewer. The BART stations smell absolutely atrocious because of the conglomeration of stenches emanating from trash, rotting food, and God knows what else festers down there. I've never seen RATS out and about until I came to Berkeley and saw rats scurrying about the streets (crawling into and out of storm drains) at night. Can the City Council of Berkeley stop focusing their attention on formulating their own foreign policy and declaring their airspace as "free from missiles?"...and START focusing its attention on issues actually affecting the poor residents of their filthy city...like rodents, piss poor public schools that fail miserably at everything, clinically insane homeless people that harass and frighten random passer-bys, streets with trash strewn everywhere, affordable housing, etc.
San Francisco is MUCH more densely packed than Los Angeles so you constantly have to deal with crowds, long lines, horrible traffic, etc. To make it worse, the civil engineers that laid out the freeways and streets in and around SF weren't the brightest pennies in the fountain either. Anyone who has commuted in the Bay Area and commuted in and around LA would notice that the Bay Area freeways have FEWER lanes creating a horrible bottleneck affect at many different points. Not even the worthless BART (which is only available to 20% of the population in the Bay Area...lol...those transportation engineers must've been brilliant) can relieve the horrible traffic in SF's narrow, clogged freeways and streets.
Even the STREETS in the suburbs of SF are more narrow ..this causes more accidents and just pisses people off in general because people park on the sides of the streets which then makes maneuvering your vehicle absolutely impossible in some narrow streets. To relieve the horrible traffic, the imbeciles decided to create a ****load of one-way streets in the Bay Area. This just causes confused drivers to turn into a street and then backup and turn the other way when they've realized their own ******* was about to go the wrong way on a 1-way street.
Fortunately, the civil and structural engineers who laid out the freeways and streets in Los Angeles weren't blithering idiots like their northern california counterparts. The 405, 118, 101, etc are all WIDE with plenty of lanes and assuming you're not commuting during rush hour (which will cause a bad commute in ANY city)..you'll have a pleasant, traffic-free ride. Just drive down the 118 at virtually any time and you'll see what I mean.
Other posters have mentioned that SF has "culture"...umm...and Los Angeles doesn't? The Hollywood Bowl, the Wilshire Theater, the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, the Getty, Skirball, LACMA, and the list goes on...
To make matters worse for the resident of the filthy Bay Area...there are POWER OUTS that occur somewhat regularly here. I remember a huge powerout my freshman year when a huge section of the power grid just died and went straight to heaven (or hell in this case..it is the bay area). At the very beginning of this semester...there was a power out again and a huge sector of the power grid blinked out.
This debate can be settled so very easily. Los Angeles has a quality of life that could NEVER be paralleled by the Bay Area. Even the WOMEN look better in southern california (I know this is a subjective argument..but still). Walking around the UC Berkeley campus...any heterosexual male (we've already eliminated a huge portion of the Bay Area population by saying "heterosexual") would feel like they're walking around in a kennel.
Los Angeles...how I long to step on your beautiful soil and bask in your sunlight