DO in US or MD in Carribeans

[DrFeelgoodDO]

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Someone asked about doing a DO vs a Carribean MD in our class, pros and cons.

The doctor said there aren't any fellowships in osteopathic medicine. Is that correct?

That's right! Absolutely no fellowships. We're all family practice.

TROLL 👎 👎 👎

 

[jwilson.md]

if you're not a troll, i feel truly sorry for your sister. of course, you are a troll, so whatever.

Oh right, I keep forgetting the golden rule here on SDN: any mention of any negative aspect of osteopathy makes one a "troll."

Sorry, OP, if you're looking for cheerleading for osteopathy, you'll probably have to PM exlawgrrl or DrMom. Good luck.

 

[jwilson.md]

That's right! Absolutely no fellowships. We're all family practice.

TROLL 👎 👎 👎

...or DrFeelgoodDO 👎

 

[Raven Feather]

Okay ppl, let's be professional. 😀

So anyway, I hear that some allopathic residencies accept COMLEX scores without taking the USMLE.

 

[N1DERL&]

That's right! Absolutely no fellowships. We're all family practice.

TROLL 👎 👎 👎

Oh my! Me? A troll? 🙄

I don't know a lot about osteopathy so it did shock me when the doctor said there aren't any fellowships for DO's. Could someone clarify this for me? Thanks!

 

[DrFeelgoodDO]

...or DrFeelgoodDO 👎

Hey pal, when you go to medical school (you know, a US MD school - a "real" medical school) and have USMLE scores better than mine (good luck), then maybe I will value your opinion.

Trust me, b1tch, you don't want to get into it with me.

 

[DrFeelgoodDO]

Oh my! Me? A troll? 🙄

I don't know a lot about osteopathy so it did shock me when the doctor said there aren't any fellowships for DO's. Could someone clarify this for me? Thanks!

look it up then. if you can't figure it out, than you're clearly dumb as a stump.

 

[gtleeee]

Try this site http://www.osteopathic.org/directory.cfm

and type in TX....you will find 2014 practicing D.O's in TX

type in PA....you will find 4196 practicing D.O's in PA

Patel must be smokin the strong stuff. To illistrate 2 states where he imagined D.Os would . have a hard time He picked 2 states that are bastions of Osteopathic Medicine and one (Pennsylvana) that is arguably the biggest DO states in the union with one of the oldest and biggest schools. Patel.I have one word of wisdom before you submit your messages....."Research") it saves a bit of embarressment later it seems.

 

[allendo]

Try this site http://www.osteopathic.org/directory.cfm

and type in TX....you will find 2014 practicing D.O's in TX

type in PA....you will find 4196 practicing D.O's in PA

Sorry, I forgot about Ross. What did it take them about 1-2 yr legal battle to gain rights to practice??? I wonder why they don't make the D.O. schools do that??? I think that settles all disputes! If you have to file a lawsuit to practice in a state then obviously there is some question to your qualty of education.

 

[medhacker]

Sorry, I forgot about Ross. What did it take them about 1-2 yr legal battle to gain rights to practice??? I wonder why they don't make the D.O. schools do that??? I think that settles all disputes! If you have to file a lawsuit to practice in a state then obviously there is some question to your qualty of education.

African- americans had to fight hard for equality and civil rights, both in courts congress and the streets, I guess that means there is some question to the quality of their humanity 🙄

 

[medhacker]

N1DERL& is no troll, buster

LOL

 

[tkim]

play nice

 

[DD214_DOC]

Sorry, I forgot about Ross. What did it take them about 1-2 yr legal battle to gain rights to practice??? I wonder why they don't make the D.O. schools do that???

DO's spent YEARS trying to get equal rights with MDs. Pickup that Gevitz book and read about it.

 

[OSUdoc08]

Just FYI, these are probably the osteopath (comlex ?) boards which are scaled to make sure >98% of the osteopaths pass. Not the MD boards, which the osteopaths do very poorly on (~70% pass rate?). My understanding is that if you are an osteopath then don't take the MD boards if you can avoid it, because unless you do very well you probably won't match into a decent MD program anyway.

Por Favor, don't give false information.

The national COMLEX pass rate is 89-90%. In addition, all DO schools don't do poorly on the USMLE. OSU-COM, for example had a 100% USMLE pass rate in 2004.

 

[Shinken]

I absolutely love SDN! The entertainment value is priceless.

By the way, if DOs cannot work in hospitals, can they work in clinics? I heard DOs can only work as physicians if they're self-employed.

 

[mizzoudude]

Someone asked about doing a DO vs a Carribean MD in our class, pros and cons.

The doctor said there aren't any fellowships in osteopathic medicine. Is that correct?

Especially people like DrFeelGoodDO....I usually don't even care, but it is frustrating when it fills people up with wrong info...

I mean do a search:
256 Records of DO neurologists
310 Records of DO Radiologists
874 Records of DO Anesthesiologists
286 Records of DO Opthamologists
http://www.osteopathic.org/directory.cfm

I mean...I am going to be applying to both MD and DO schools next year. I have started to shadow a DO and all the misconceptions that go around on SDN are rediculous. I am shadowing an addiction medicine DO who says no one really cares that she is a DO. She knows much more than any MD in the city about addiction medicine.

Another example is an MD that I know that is from India (many of those around I know), but he went to medical school in India, practiced a little in Britain, and practiced in the states after that. Now he is chief of staff at a Veterans hospital. He was also named best physician in the town he lived in a few years back. He did tell me that there was a stigma that he was an FMG, but he didn't care.

I believe if that one makes a sincere effort regardless of where they went to medical school (may it be the carribean, germany, france, singapore, etc.) and come make a great contribution to medicine, who cares where you went to school? It all depends on the type of person you are...if you are the type A gunner MD medical school student, then yes...it matters a lot to you where someone went to school. However, if you are laid back, however passionate about your craft (in this case medicine) you will respect anyone who can do the job well (and even more respect to those that do really well).
I will respect a FMG that comes up with a better surgical procedure more than someone who did really well on his undergrad classes to get into Harvard medical school and who is not that great of a physician.

 

[OSUdoc08]

I absolutely love SDN! The entertainment value is priceless.

By the way, if DOs cannot work in hospitals, can they work in clinics? I heard DOs can only work as physicians if they're self-employed.

Please don't contribute by trolling yourself.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I'm sick of seeing these numbers from your school. You guys are all worried about pass rates. Who cares? What is the AVERAGE score from OSU, AZCOM, or any other DO school?

To anyone who reads this, keep this one simple thing in mind....my left nut can get a 405 (which is passing...whooptie f*ckin' doodle DOO!!) on Step I or on any step of COMLEX. But try getting a 605 or better yet a 705. That's a whole different story.

good point. i'm not worried about passing, but i would like to make high scores on the comlex and usmle. it would be cool if schools would release that data.

 

[DrFeelgoodDO]

Especially people like DrFeelGoodDO....

it was sarcasm, dude. i can see your misunderstanding, however - to a point. read the rest my responses. I would love to flame you, but I don't necesscarily disagree w/ you.

 

[bulletproof]

Sorry, I forgot about Ross. What did it take them about 1-2 yr legal battle to gain rights to practice??? I wonder why they don't make the D.O. schools do that??? I think that settles all disputes! If you have to file a lawsuit to practice in a state then obviously there is some question to your qualty of education.

In answer to your question, the reason it took Ross the time to gain approval rights was because Texas was not accepting any FMGs to practice. They were not even accepting applications for a while. Make your own observations about what one state thought, or what its reasons were, but at the same time, bear the following in mind: Many countries around the world have never even heard of DOs, and DOs are NOT ALLOWED TO PRACTICE there. Is this a reflection on the quality of education? I would say certainly not. It is to do with a lack of knowledge and recognition on the part of the Medical regulation boards of these particular countries.They are not familar with the education process involved in obtaining a DO degree and thus ( understandibly so) cannot grant that individual rights to practice medicine without a review of their schooling. As we all know the bureaucracy involved with such matters severly hinders expedition. The same was the case in Texas. Once they reviewed Ross' case, they accepted them, as they deemed their standard of education equivalent to that provided in US allopathic and osteopathic schools. So please don't make an ass of yourself by oversimplifying complex medical regulation procedures. By using your own rational the DO degree is of lesser or no quality in many countries around the world. That is not my opinion as I take a BALANCED look at all things. Also, use common sense people. This is the pre-osteopathic forum. If you post here with the OPs question, what were you expecting, " oh no, go Carribean MD, the DO degree is terrible" ( employ the circuitry God gave you...once you get into medical school it will make the transition that much easier..seriously) My decision to go carib MD included my ability to work back in my country of origin. I was accepted to two osteopathic schools in the midwest and declined both....principally for this reason. Finally, whoever was mkaing ponits about the USMLE pass rates being at around 60% for FMGS, that figure is an average of all FMGS including those that barely speak a lick of english, or whose programs or not geared towards the USMLE( clearly this is not the case for the big three....again common sense?) . For AUC, Ross, And Sgu the pass rates are much higher....somewhere I believe in the 75%-90% according to the last official sources I looked at. To all in their respective schools, good luck, just please try to pass around ACCURATE information so that future readers can make informed and unbiased decisions.

 

[N1DERL&]

HI medhacker!! Good laugh huh?

At out school, they started a new class that will take us through the life of a pre-med student applying to medschool to a retired doctor. The doctor leading the class is doing his fellowship in gynecology oncology and really excited about this class. Every week, there will be a panel of students, doctors, doctor spouses, etc that will come in to share their thoughts and answer any questions about their particular stage in life as a doctor.

Last night was just an intro to the class with an open forum for questions. One student asked the doctor his opinion on DO's. (He's an MD). His opinion was that there are good DO's and good MD's from foreign schools. 😕 Then he pointed out that DO's don't have fellowships and perhaps knowig this will help make a decision for some people.

So I looked it up last night and asked here to get a consensus. I take it DO's do have fellowships from the responses I got last night. 😀

G'luck to anyone who's still grappling with foreign MD vs. DO. It's a tough one indeed!

 

[OSUdoc08]

HI medhacker!! Good laugh huh?

At out school, they started a new class that will take us through the life of a pre-med student applying to medschool to a retired doctor. The doctor leading the class is doing his fellowship in gynecology oncology and really excited about this class. Every week, there will be a panel of students, doctors, doctor spouses, etc that will come in to share their thoughts and answer any questions about their particular stage in life as a doctor.

Last night was just an intro to the class with an open forum for questions. One student asked the doctor his opinion on DO's. (He's an MD). His opinion was that there are good DO's and good MD's from foreign schools. 😕 Then he pointed out that DO's don't have fellowships and perhaps knowig this will help make a decision for some people.

So I looked it up last night and asked here to get a consensus. I take it DO's do have fellowships from the responses I got last night. 😀

G'luck to anyone who's still grappling with foreign MD vs. DO. It's a tough one indeed!

Not only do DO's have fellowships, but they are eligible to apply to all MD fellowships.

 

[allendo]

In answer to your question, the reason it took Ross the time to gain approval rights was because Texas was not accepting any FMGs to practice. They were not even accepting applications for a while. Make your own observations about what one state thought, or what its reasons were, but at the same time, bear the following in mind: Many countries around the world have never even heard of DOs, and DOs are NOT ALLOWED TO PRACTICE there. Is this a reflection on the quality of education? I would say certainly not. It is to do with a lack of knowledge and recognition on the part of the Medical regulation boards of these particular countries.They are not familar with the education process involved in obtaining a DO degree and thus ( understandibly so) cannot grant that individual rights to practice medicine without a review of their schooling. As we all know the bureaucracy involved with such matters severly hinders expedition. The same was the case in Texas. Once they reviewed Ross' case, they accepted them, as they deemed their standard of education equivalent to that provided in US allopathic and osteopathic schools. So please don't make an ass of yourself by oversimplifying complex medical regulation procedures. By using your own rational the DO degree is of lesser or no quality in many countries around the world. That is not my opinion as I take a BALANCED look at all things. Also, use common sense people. This is the pre-osteopathic forum. If you post here with the OPs question, what were you expecting, " oh no, go Carribean MD, the DO degree is terrible" ( employ the circuitry God gave you...once you get into medical school it will make the transition that much easier..seriously) My decision to go carib MD included my ability to work back in my country of origin. I was accepted to two osteopathic schools in the midwest and declined both....principally for this reason. Finally, whoever was mkaing ponits about the USMLE pass rates being at around 60% for FMGS, that figure is an average of all FMGS including those that barely speak a lick of english, or whose programs or not geared towards the USMLE( clearly this is not the case for the big three....again common sense?) . For AUC, Ross, And Sgu the pass rates are much higher....somewhere I believe in the 75%-90% according to the last official sources I looked at. To all in their respective schools, good luck, just please try to pass around ACCURATE information so that future readers can make informed and unbiased decisions.

Bla Bla Bla thats why carrib grads pay 5k for the falcon review course! Why do you need a 5k review course if your education is so great?

 

[bulletproof]

Bla Bla Bla thats why carrib grads pay 5k for the falcon review course! Why do you need a 5k review course if your education is so great?

Look child, go back to the rock from under which you crawled and work on your facts and figures. I believe I may once have heard of this course, but I am certainly not taking it, nor for that matter or any one of my classmates that I am in regular contact with, so wtf are you talking about? I presented you with a legitimate argument, to which your assinine, childlike comments pose about as much of a threat as Pissing in the wind. Out of five friends of mine who have taken the USMLE since august this year four have gotten 230+, with the fifth gettting a 240+. This is not uncommon at Ross. Ross has had the record for the highest achieved score on the USMLE of all testtakers TWICE ( thats right...TWICE ) in the past five years.
Anyway, lets suppose that some students opted to take a reivew course, um....so what? MANY MANY US students take review courses. The USMLE is about the most important exam you will ever take in medicine ( at least with respect to getting a residency ). Many people take one so as to optimise their score, not merely to pass. If you are actually even in med school young grasshopper you probably realise this.BTW, I sit my exam in around 10 days , and I still have the time to come to SDN and educate you, all while not taking a review course.....take from that what you will .
Also I have heard through the grapevine that Falcon is not the best. My advice when your time comes, go with Kaplan ( Based on your inability to form coherent arguments I am assuming you will be one of those students who actually needs thier hand held as to what to focus on). Good luck buddy, and just remember God loves you, k?

 

[bulletproof]

On 7-23-2005, allendo wrote:"The point is that we will all be physicians and will all eventually work together for the welfare of our patients. I would gladly work beside my two friends that went to the cayman Islands and they would do the same. We have to remember that we did not enter this career to be arrogant, but servants." I can provide the link if you'd like, but I'm sure you remember typing that. Now, back to learning your OMM, and time to stop being so insecure in your DO degree. You will get to work side by side with MDs so you can officially stop overcompensating by trying to knock Carribean students, ok? Good boy.

 

[Doctor Bagel]

argh, this is why i hate it when people ask this question. both are valid choices, and both have plenty of smart, capable students. the average mcat and gpas for students attending sgu are on par with most osteopathic schools and actually higher than the numbers for some. also, the board passage rate for schools like ross, auc and sgu is actually better than the average usmle passage rate for osteopathic medical students. so, it's sort of silly for do's to start feeling superior to grads from the top caribbean schools.

personally, i love the idea of learning omm and have always liked the holistic wellness orientation of osteopathic schools, so i'd love to go to osteopathic school. if i hated that stuff or thought it would be a waste of time to learn omm, i'd probably be applying to some caribbean schools on top of stateside allopathic programs. sure, some of the caribbean schools appear pretty shady (won't name names, but you can search valuemd if you're curious), but ross, auc, sgu and saba produce good physicians who do well on their board exams and get decent residency placements.

 

[medhacker]

On 7-23-2005, allendo wrote:"The point is that we will all be physicians and will all eventually work together for the welfare of our patients. I would gladly work beside my two friends that went to the cayman Islands and they would do the same. We have to remember that we did not enter this career to be arrogant, but servants." I can provide the link if you'd like, but I'm sure you remember typing that. Now, back to learning your OMM, and time to stop being so insecure in your DO degree. You will get to work side by side with MDs so you can officially stop overcompensating by trying to knock Carribean students, ok? Good boy.

Daing!!

 

[medhacker]

HI medhacker!! Good laugh huh?

Laugh?

This is hilarious, I sincerely hope this thread never ends. We have compiled in one thread the best representatives of our medical community. This is medical education at its best, and no, no pun intended, I'm fo' real!

 

[Shodddy18]

Ok, you all bludgeoned the horse till it fell to the ground, then pummeled it with devastating blows all over its body until it died. This was a few days ago. Why are you still beating the horse? Its dead… Stop beating it…. 😎

 

[allendo]

Daing!!

Yes, I wrote that and I would work beside my friends from the carrib. But when you compare the two systems yes I would choose D.O. Oh yeah that was a lame ass comment about getting back to learning OMM. WEAK WEAK Why don't you go figure out how to drug someone to death! Also, I dont try to compensate for my degree I just want others to know the truth about the carrib schools. They have major licensing issues/ D.O.s have zero. They have clinical rotation issues/ Most D.O. schools have none (Most). They end up costing you more as apposed to D.O. You have to live in a foreign country which most people think would be fun, but my friends will tell you differently. You are along way away from your family, and if you have a spouse good luck with them being able to work. Also, there is a safety factor, most of the carrib isles are not for rookies or single women. And I'm sorry but when my home state will not license you to work then there is something wrong with that picture. I support these people in their choices but there are more hurdles to jump in the carrib than in the D.O. world.

 

[bulletproof]

Yes, I wrote that and I would work beside my friends from the carrib. But when you compare the two systems yes I would choose D.O. Oh yeah that was a lame ass comment about getting back to learning OMM. WEAK WEAK Why don't you go figure out how to drug someone to death! Also, I dont try to compensate for my degree I just want others to know the truth about the carrib schools. They have major licensing issues/ D.O.s have zero. They have clinical rotation issues/ Most D.O. schools have none (Most). They end up costing you more as apposed to D.O. You have to live in a foreign country which most people think would be fun, but my friends will tell you differently. You are along way away from your family, and if you have a spouse good luck with them being able to work. Also, there is a safety factor, most of the carrib isles are not for rookies or single women. And I'm sorry but when my home state will not license you to work then there is something wrong with that picture. I support these people in their choices but there are more hurdles to jump in the carrib than in the D.O. world.

You are aware that the advent of penicillin is probably the single greatest contribution to human healthcare right? In any event, I was not trying to knock your OMM ( in fact I applaude it.....where in any of my posts have I made ANY derogatory references to Osteopathic medicine? ) It is you, my friend who are trying desperately to knock someone elses chosen path, not I. BTW I am a US citizen, but was born and raised in another country for 18 years. I then lived in the states, and then the west indies. Travel is one of the best educators. You should try it. I enjoyed my time in Dominica, and have the experience of having lived in a third world country.I got licenced to scuba dive, visited many of the other islands, encountered different ways of life, views on the US etc. You also mention about "your home state". IT DOES LICENCE ROSS GRADUATES. Did we not already cover this? ALL STATES DO. I can practice anywhere in the world with my MD. YOU CAN"T. Sorry bud, those is just the facts....plain and simple. So if you want to start naming hurdles..bring it on. We will both be doctors. We can both work in any state in the US. We will both hopefully enjoy our work and get paid well for it. The one difference? Should I choose to go abroad, my degree is recognised ubiquitously. Can you claim that? Now I am not saying that you would want to go abroad, given your stated aversion to having to leave your "home state", but if some day you met a nice girl from, oh, lets say Ireland, would'nt it be nice to be able to settle down there and practice if necessary? I think so. Luckily this will NEVER be an issue for me. Take care, and be careful not to venture too far outside of Texas.

 

[allendo]

You are aware that the advent of penicillin is probably the single greatest contribution to human healthcare right? In any event, I was not trying to knock your OMM ( in fact I applaude it.....where in any of my posts have I made ANY derogatory references to Osteopathic medicine? ) It is you, my friend who are trying desperately to knock someone elses chosen path, not I. BTW I am a US citizen, but was born and raised in another country for 18 years. I then lived in the states, and then the west indies. Travel is one of the best educators. You should try it. I enjoyed my time in Dominica, and have the experience of having lived in a third world country.I got licenced to scuba dive, visited many of the other islands, encountered different ways of life, views on the US etc. You also mention about "your home state". IT DOES LICENCE ROSS GRADUATES. Did we not already cover this? ALL STATES DO. I can practice anywhere in the world with my MD. YOU CAN"T. Sorry bud, those is just the facts....plain and simple. So if you want to start naming hurdles..bring it on. We will both be doctors. We can both work in any state in the US. We will both hopefully enjoy our work and get paid well for it. The one difference? Should I choose to go abroad, my degree is recognised ubiquitously. Can you claim that? Now I am not saying that you would want to go abroad, given your stated aversion to having to leave your "home state", but if some day you met a nice girl from, oh, lets say Ireland, would'nt it be nice to be able to settle down there and practice if necessary? I think so. Luckily this will NEVER be an issue for me. Take care, and be careful not to venture too far outside of Texas.

How ignorant of you to assume I've not spent time in Dominica myself, or the Caymans, Belieze, Hati, Labadee, Costa Maya, St. John, St. Thomas, Puerto Rico....etc...etc. I've been just as many places. Yes Ross grads can practice in Texas, but they are the only ones from the Carrib. Plus, go ahead file for licensure in foreign countries, your not automatically granted a license. It's hard for anyone from a foreign country to practice in another. Besides, I want to practice in the U.S. and if I want to do a medical mission I can b/c I get a temp license for the trip. Hey, I like you little Texas bit maybe you shouldn't come here(we don't like you kind) I'm thinking of a Toby Keith song right now! Something about a boot in your a$$!

 

[bulletproof]

How ignorant of you to assume I've not spent time in Dominica myself, or the Caymans, Belieze, Hati, Labadee, Costa Maya, St. John, St. Thomas, Puerto Rico....etc...etc. I've been just as many places. Yes Ross grads can practice in Texas, but they are the only ones from the Carrib. Plus, go ahead file for licensure in foreign countries, your not automatically granted a license. It's hard for anyone from a foreign country to practice in another. Besides, I want to practice in the U.S. and if I want to do a medical mission I can b/c I get a temp license for the trip. Hey, I like you little Texas bit maybe you shouldn't come here(we don't like you kind) I'm thinking of a Toby Keith song right now! Something about a boot in your a$$!

I erred to assume that since you could not even spell CARIBBEAN in any of your posts that you had not been there. 😉 How 'ignorant' of me. BTW, you should look up irony. As in...I find it ironic that on the one hand you accuse me of being ignorant, and on the other you display ignorance with blanket statements such as "we don't like you kind". With "you kind" were you referring to my superior intellect, or that fact that I have a differing opinion than yours? In either case, I have no intention of going anywhere near that bastion of Bushdom anytime soon, so you're safe. A boot in my ass?? ....um, yeah I had heard about the "steers and queers" stereotype associated with texas.Apparently its not just a rumor...huh? But sorry kiddo, I don't play in that league. Good luck.

 

[N1DERL&]

Not only do DO's have fellowships, but they are eligible to apply to all MD fellowships.

Thanks for sharing that OSUdoc08. I didn't know that! 🙂

 

[DrMom]

Some allo fellowships require that you've completed an allo residency. Others don't.

 

[allendo]

I erred to assume that since you could not even spell CARIBBEAN in any of your posts that you had not been there. 😉 How 'ignorant' of me. BTW, you should look up irony. As in...I find it ironic that on the one hand you accuse me of being ignorant, and on the other you display ignorance with blanket statements such as "we don't like you kind". With "you kind" were you referring to my superior intellect, or that fact that I have a differing opinion than yours? In either case, I have no intention of going anywhere near that bastion of Bushdom anytime soon, so you're safe. A boot in my ass?? ....um, yeah I had heard about the "steers and queers" stereotype associated with texas.Apparently its not just a rumor...huh? But sorry kiddo, I don't play in that league. Good luck.

BASTION of BUSHDOM and your calling me gay? What the Hell? I like blanket statements it keeps people like you in your place!

 

[Doctor Bagel]

I erred to assume that since you could not even spell CARIBBEAN in any of your posts that you had not been there. 😉 How 'ignorant' of me. BTW, you should look up irony. As in...I find it ironic that on the one hand you accuse me of being ignorant, and on the other you display ignorance with blanket statements such as "we don't like you kind". With "you kind" were you referring to my superior intellect, or that fact that I have a differing opinion than yours? In either case, I have no intention of going anywhere near that bastion of Bushdom anytime soon, so you're safe. A boot in my ass?? ....um, yeah I had heard about the "steers and queers" stereotype associated with texas.Apparently its not just a rumor...huh? But sorry kiddo, I don't play in that league. Good luck.

yep, not being able to practice in texas isn't a downside in my book. i had to live there for three of the longest years in my life and can't imagine living in that sh&thole state again. ugly, barren wastelands aren't cool.

'tis true, though, that homophobia displays a downright texas attitude.

 

[bulletproof]

BASTION of BUSHDOM and your calling me gay? What the Hell? I like blanket statements it keeps people like you in your place!

You offered to put a boot in my ass. I thought you were proposing something kinky..thats all. I apologize if my use of alliteration is perceived to be in some way homosexual. Don't they teach you alliteration in Texas, or is being literate perceived as being unmanly, or , God forbid, effeminate? Oh, by the way, its "you're", not "your". You see when you want to say 'you are' but you don't want to actually be so proper ( some might interpret that as being too effeminate ) you drop the a, add a little ' and you have "you're". Oh yeah, thanks for putting me in my place.
🙄

 

[Vince]

Hello Everyone,
I was hoping to get some input on something that I have been trying to get some answers or more information on for awhile now. I was wondering how does getting your DO in an American school compare to getting an MD from a foreign medical school such as those found in the Carribean. I understand that both put you at a disadvantage when applying for residencies, but I was wondering if the MD from a Carribean school is considered to be more competitive than a DO from an American school. Thanks a lot for your help and I appreciate the input. Cheers!

My vote is to just go DO in the US...I think it'll be easier in the long run...if you study hard and do well on the boards (including USMLE), you can get into just about any MD Residency and probably more than a Carribean grad.....just my $0.02.

 

[bulletproof]

yep, not being able to practice in texas isn't a downside in my book. i had to live there for three of the longest years in my life and can't imagine living in that sh&thole state again. ugly, barren wastelands aren't cool.

'tis true, though, that homophobia displays a downright texas attitude.

I could not be less homophobic. I was being sarcastic with Mr. allendo as his confederate 'we gonna' put y'all in yer place' attitude would seem to fit rightly with homophobia, and other " we don't like your type round here" sentiment. I respect fully the right of all to live how they want. I agree with you on not wanting to live in Texas. That is why I started at Ross before it was even possible for Ross graduates to practice there. Anyway, just wanted to clear that up.

 

[DD214_DOC]

I may be a bit off track as I have not completely read through all of this, but I have to ask the question: does it really matter where you do your pre-clinicals? The "Big Three", or four if you count Saba, prepare their students just as well as any other school during pre-clinicals.

As far as clinicals, all three (or four) have clinical rotation sites in the U.S. at various hospitals. In fact, to the DO who's been bashing carib students, many DO students do their clinicals alongside the Carib MD students at certain locations -- even alongside US MD students.

So, as I have said before, does it really matter where you read your books at?

 

[Raven Feather]

So, as I have said before, does it really matter where you read your books at?

I don't think it does. In the long run we will all be physicians, I mean, isn't that our goal?

I have never picked my physicians on what medical school they went to--I don't care as long as they are licensed to practice in the U.S., are competent, and are personable with a great bedside manner. I have had US trained MDs, DOs, and FMGs as my providers. Most patients in my area don't care either--what they care about is the their quality of care.

 

[Shodddy18]

The horse is dead... Quit beating it

 

[Canuck99]

How is it tough? It's an honest question...I'm not trying to flame you. I have a hard time believing that a DO has any difficulty practicing in Texas, which has its own very well regarded state Osteopathic school, and Pennsylvania, which is supersaturated with DO's (2 schools, another on the way)

True that, I dont really think its tough what so ever. I am from Dallas and I work in the ER as a physician tech with 3 D.O's. My family prac doc is a D.O. as well.

 

[jbone]

Really, how freaking lame is this dumb ass topic? Look, medical school and being a doctor is most likely the hardest thing you will EVER do. DO or MD. Period. End the stupid "undergrad" squabble sh@t and get over it. 😡
Be happy with what you have and end the lame ass fight. 👎
THE END.

By the way, pretty lame ass to bring politics and state bashing into the mix. Mature.
(you'll be a great doc 😱 )

 

[shaggy411]

How is it tough? It's an honest question...I'm not trying to flame you. I have a hard time believing that a DO has any difficulty practicing in Texas, which has its own very well regarded state Osteopathic school, and Pennsylvania, which is supersaturated with DO's (2 schools, another on the way)

you said 2 do schools in pa and another one on the way...so thats

PCOM and LECOM

what's the other school on teh way??

 

[NSU-neuro]

I am applying for residency right now and have found that Many programs prefer US DO's over Oversee MD's because they know that US school have a certain standard, while oversee school's are also good, some of them have questionable grading systems. At the end what matters is how you do in the boards and how much you want to be a doctor. No matter where you go! 🙄