Do residencies know what % of your class gets honors?

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[Smurfette]

Generally speaking, your Dean's letter will give a breakdown of your class grades. So if hardly anyone gets honors, they will be able to see that.

My school did a bar graph to demonstrate the distribution of grades in each clerkship so they could see where I fell within my class. Other schools have different ways of showing this.

 

[C5toC9]

dean's letter should show this

 

[GoSpursGo]

Ditto for what everyone else said about the Dean's letter. Apparently the bar/pie/whatever graph breaking down the grades for each core clerkship is pretty standard.

 

[OveractiveBrain]

Ditto for what everyone else said about the Dean's letter. Apparently the bar/pie/whatever graph breaking down the grades for each core clerkship is pretty standard.

No its not. Most of the time its a WORD that basically conveys which QUARTILE or QUINTILE it is. There is no mention of bar graphs, of which classes gets honors, or what percentile is awesome. The wording is not standardized, and while there is a translation at the bottom, gets very onerous to constantly check back on each dean's letter for each of the 600 applications.

As someone who assists with my program's interview process, I speak from (extremely recent) experience.

School A will say "Johnny is an EXCELLENT student" meaning he is in the top 10%.

School B will say "Sally is an EXCELLENT student" meaning she is in the 50th-75th percentile.

School C will say "Bob is a GREAT student" meaning he is in the 50th-75th percentile.

Very frustrating, and essentially useless. The boss has what quart or quintile (depending on what your school reports) and whether you were AOA (junior/senior) and drops a little number somewhere deep in some excel spreadsheet.

We do see how many honors YOU GOT, but NOT relative to the rest of your class. Frankly, nor do we care. The scrutiny might go up for a subspecialty surgical service, where they only interview 50 people all year for 2 spots, but I can say from a Medicine perspective, little investigation goes into "figuring out" your Dean's Letter.

 

[GoSpursGo]

That information was directly from my dean this year; they also said they define that last adjective, as you said. I've also heard several friends from other schools say they saw a breakdown of all the grades in the core clerkships when they reviewed their dean's letter this year. Perhaps different schools do it differently

 

[Raryn]

No its not. Most of the time its a WORD that basically conveys which QUARTILE or QUINTILE it is. There is no mention of bar graphs, of which classes gets honors, or what percentile is awesome. The wording is not standardized, and while there is a translation at the bottom, gets very onerous to constantly check back on each dean's letter for each of the 600 applications.

As someone who assists with my program's interview process, I speak from (extremely recent) experience.

School A will say "Johnny is an EXCELLENT student" meaning he is in the top 10%.

School B will say "Sally is an EXCELLENT student" meaning she is in the 50th-75th percentile.

School C will say "Bob is a GREAT student" meaning he is in the 50th-75th percentile.

Very frustrating, and essentially useless. The boss has what quart or quintile (depending on what your school reports) and whether you were AOA (junior/senior) and drops a little number somewhere deep in some excel spreadsheet.

We do see how many honors YOU GOT, but NOT relative to the rest of your class. Frankly, nor do we care. The scrutiny might go up for a subspecialty surgical service, where they only interview 50 people all year for 2 spots, but I can say from a Medicine perspective, little investigation goes into "figuring out" your Dean's Letter.

Our deans attach a series of bar graphs to the deans letter that show the grade distribution for every course we take, and I'm fairly certain this is done by most other schools.

 

[FSU2013]

Our deans attach a series of bar graphs to the deans letter that show the grade distribution for every course we take, and I'm fairly certain this is done by most other schools.

Yea, ours has bar graphs with a star showing where you fall, although ours goes by semesters (not individual classes) for the preclinical years, then individual clerkships for 3rd and 4th year. I tried up upload a pdf of a sample they gave us but it's the wrong size and I'm not awesome with computers.....

 

[VenusinFurs]

Mine doesn't.