DO Residency question

[Iliketoytles]

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So I've heard of DO's being in MD residencies. I assume the only way to do this is to take the USMLE in addition to COMLEX. However, I have a couple questions about residency (hopefully they aren't too dumb). 😳

Are there specific residency locations for each school? For example... if I matriculated into NSU for the four years, is there a way to attend a Texas residency? Or are there specific locations NSU has for their residency locations? I'm a bit confused about how residency works (as I'm sure you have deduced).

Could someone break it down in layman's terms on the process of residency, selecting a residency, and if it's possible for a DO to do a residency in another state (like TX)??

Thanks so much! 🙂

---EDIT: I spent some time searching some other SDN threads on the topic. It kind of answered some questions, but raised other ones. For the 4 years of DO school, is it true that you have to relocate often for years 3 & 4? Is this always the case, or would I be able to stay at... let's say NSU, for all 4 years.

Sorry for the ignorance. I could really use the insight though!!

 

[QofQuimica]

I can't answer most of your questions, but I can answer this one:

if it's possible for a DO to do a residency in another state (like TX)??

Yes, it's possible, just like it is for allo grads. The match is a whole different process than med school apps, and there aren't state residency requirements for applying to residency programs. If you decide to go through the allo match as an osteo senior, you would fill out the same application (called ERAS) that we do. I don't know if you would be required to take the USMLE, but it seems like a lot of osteo students who enter the allo match do at least take Step 1.

However, I would humbly propose that it's a bit premature for you to be worrying about where you will be doing residency. Just take things one step at a time. Right now, you should focus on making your med school app as strong as possible and applying to a good selection of medical schools based on your state of residency (I'm assuming Florida?) and your perceived fit with each school. Your medical school will help you with residency advising, including navigating the application process, picking a specialty, and selecting appropriate programs to apply to.

Best of luck. 🙂

 

[LifeTake2]

---EDIT: I spent some time searching some other SDN threads on the topic. It kind of answered some questions, but raised other ones. For the 4 years of DO school, is it true that you have to relocate often for years 3 & 4? Is this always the case, or would I be able to stay at... let's say NSU, for all 4 years.

Sorry for the ignorance. I could really use the insight though!!

Depending on where you go, you can stay put for rotations. This is a school-specific thing.

Most MD's schools operate a hospital; thus rotations are easy to arrange. Most DO's schools don't so they have to work with local hospitals/doctors.

Most I'm aware of have local options; but allow you to travel if you wish. There are some that lean heavily to being somewhere else; but often that is just due to a lack of options locally.

As Q said, you would be good to find a school you like and worry about residency later. However, if you want to stay put for 4 years (I will be due to family) then incorporate that into your school-search.

 

[Iliketoytles]

Thanks for the responses guys! They were very helpful. I'm actually a Texas resident so that's why I'd like to stay in TX for residency. I used NSU as an example since I have an interview there in October. 😎

I guess you're right; residency may be a bit premature. I like to plan things out, and I know when I discuss my options with my parents... whether or not I can do residency in TX will be something I'd like to discuss with them. Hopefully I get an invite from TCOM soon!

Anyway, thanks for the responses! Very helpful. 👍

 

[SesameStreetDoc]

Thanks for the responses guys! They were very helpful. I'm actually a Texas resident so that's why I'd like to stay in TX for residency. I used NSU as an example since I have an interview there in October. 😎

I guess you're right; residency may be a bit premature. I like to plan things out, and I know when I discuss my options with my parents... whether or not I can do residency in TX will be something I'd like to discuss with them. Hopefully I get an invite from TCOM soon!

Anyway, thanks for the responses! Very helpful. 👍

Hey Toytle! I just wanted to ask if you found any detailed info about how residency works? Did you find a listing of residencies? I used to know where it was, but googling isn't helping me and I can't remember what my research turned up previously. I think there are different listings for allo and osteo residencies, yes?

Incidentally, I think it's very prudent to be investigating residency even though you're not accepted yet. So many schools accept primarily in-state applicants that, if you're out-of-state, you have to be committed to residency in the same state as your school. In my opinion, you have to be able to go into your interviews knowing whether or not you intend to stay in that state (and the schools will definitely be asking).

 

[donkeykong1]

Hey Toytle! I just wanted to ask if you found any detailed info about how residency works? Did you find a listing of residencies? I used to know where it was, but googling isn't helping me and I can't remember what my research turned up previously. I think there are different listings for allo and osteo residencies, yes?

Incidentally, I think it's very prudent to be investigating residency even though you're not accepted yet. So many schools accept primarily in-state applicants that, if you're out-of-state, you have to be committed to residency in the same state as your school. In my opinion, you have to be able to go into your interviews knowing whether or not you intend to stay in that state (and the schools will definitely be asking).

here is a link to U.S AOA residencies:

http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...essionid=f0308b8daeb51c1bb297471e74d574e566c7

 

[LifeTake2]

Hey Toytle! I just wanted to ask if you found any detailed info about how residency works? Did you find a listing of residencies? I used to know where it was, but googling isn't helping me and I can't remember what my research turned up previously. I think there are different listings for allo and osteo residencies, yes?

Incidentally, I think it's very prudent to be investigating residency even though you're not accepted yet. So many schools accept primarily in-state applicants that, if you're out-of-state, you have to be committed to residency in the same state as your school. In my opinion, you have to be able to go into your interviews knowing whether or not you intend to stay in that state (and the schools will definitely be asking).

Wrong!

As was explained above by Q, residency has NO IS/OOS bias, and no influence on where you attend medical school.

For residency: you rotate/interview at schools anywhere in the US you are interested. You rank your choices top to bottom; each residency director in the US does the same. A magic computer system matches them up "The Match".

You can end up at the same school as med school, if you both rank each other high, or you could got to NSU for medical school and do residency in Wyoming. They are not tied in any way other than you have to finish one before the 2st starts.

In addition, I don't have the reference at the moment but the % of students that don't change specialty intentions during medical school is pretty low, so there is no way to worry about residency locations before you even decide what you are going to be studying.

 

[seap3]

Hey Toytle! I just wanted to ask if you found any detailed info about how residency works? Did you find a listing of residencies? I used to know where it was, but googling isn't helping me and I can't remember what my research turned up previously. I think there are different listings for allo and osteo residencies, yes?

Incidentally, I think it's very prudent to be investigating residency even though you're not accepted yet. So many schools accept primarily in-state applicants that, if you're out-of-state, you have to be committed to residency in the same state as your school. In my opinion, you have to be able to go into your interviews knowing whether or not you intend to stay in that state (and the schools will definitely be asking).

You can search through allo residencies on FREIDA - don't know the exact link but you can google it.

 

[judasreznor]

You can also check out opportunities.osteopathic.org for Osteopathic residencies throughout the nation.

 

[coffeeeandtea]

the link for ACGME residencies: https://freida.ama-assn.org/Freida/user/viewProgramSearch.do

tip: check out the programs' websites to see how many DOs are on staff to see if the program seems "DO friendly"..

 

[SesameStreetDoc]

Wrong!

As was explained above by Q, residency has NO IS/OOS bias, and no influence on where you attend medical school.

For residency: you rotate/interview at schools anywhere in the US you are interested. You rank your choices top to bottom; each residency director in the US does the same. A magic computer system matches them up "The Match".

You can end up at the same school as med school, if you both rank each other high, or you could got to NSU for medical school and do residency in Wyoming. They are not tied in any way other than you have to finish one before the 2st starts.

In addition, I don't have the reference at the moment but the % of students that don't change specialty intentions during medical school is pretty low, so there is no way to worry about residency locations before you even decide what you are going to be studying.

I think you misunderstood me. I never said that residencies have in-state vs. out-of-state issues. Schools do (some). PNW and UNECOM are two that I know of specifically. I'm not saying that the residency influences where I go to school, rather that the schools I apply to will want to know if I intend to stay in that state.

 

[SesameStreetDoc]

here is a link to U.S AOA residencies:

http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...essionid=f0308b8daeb51c1bb297471e74d574e566c7

Thanks for the link!!!! 🙂

 

[SesameStreetDoc]

the link for ACGME residencies: https://freida.ama-assn.org/Freida/user/viewProgramSearch.do

tip: check out the programs' websites to see how many DOs are on staff to see if the program seems "DO friendly"..

Thanks for the link and the tip! I've heard that you have to call every potential program and talk to them to find out the real skinny. thanks!

 

[AMEHigh]

There are ACGME residencies that accept the COMLEX also.

 

[nlax30]

I think you misunderstood me. I never said that residencies have in-state vs. out-of-state issues. Schools do (some). PNW and UNECOM are two that I know of specifically. I'm not saying that the residency influences where I go to school, rather that the schools I apply to will want to know if I intend to stay in that state.

Still not sure what you're trying to get at. Earlier you said "...if you're out-of-state, you have to be committed to residency in the same state."

Some med schools have instate bias like you said, but it doesn't carry over to residency. At least I've never heard of an instance of where you have to commit to a residency in that state. Two separate beasts.

 

[DrWily]

Still not sure what you're trying to get at. Earlier you said "...if you're out-of-state, you have to be committed to residency in the same state."

Some med schools have instate bias like you said, but it doesn't carry over to residency. At least I've never heard of an instance of where you have to commit to a residency in that state. Two separate beasts.

He's saying that schools who primarily accept instate applicants tend to accept Out of State applicants if the Out of State Applicants express a desire to remain in the area to practice (Residency and beyond). They cannot FORCE you to stay in the area for residency. You can lie through your teeth to get into the school and then go off to residency somewhere else. His phrase "have to be committed" isn't entirely correct and this is what's confusing people in this thread.