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I was referring to students getting their AA or AS for free during high school, with "you" as a general descriptor, not specific to his case.

If he does well on his science courses going forward, he will probably be able to get into a medical school. Maybe not a top 20, but he'll get in somewhere. There's threads about several successful nontrad applicants in the past that did all of their prereqs at CC that later got into medical school.
Don't worry, he believes Yale will take him since they told him they accept CC classes. Yes, the HUGE keyword here being "non-trad".
 
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I'm having a hard time deciding who has the biggest e-peen in this whole debacle.
 
No, it has nothing to do with being spectacular. Most people move on with their lives. There are tons of people who were "spectacular" in high school and fizzled out. If you think community college courses are taught better than AP courses with an exam or a university class, you are definitely not informed.
Oh, I'm not doubting you there.......I believe that University classes will indeed be harder than CC. I was just saying that I opted for the option of Graduating with my Associate's and High school diploma at the same time. I do realize that it would have looked better on my transcript to have all of my science pre-reqs at a University, but I don't think the majority of Medical Schools would want me to go back and re-take a full year of two science classes either.
 
Oh, I'm not doubting you there.......I believe that University classes will indeed be harder than CC. I was just saying that I opted for the option of Graduating with my Associate's and High school diploma at the same time. I do realize that it would have looked better on my transcript to have all of my science pre-reqs at a University, but I don't think the majority of Medical Schools would want me to go back and re-take a full year of two science classes either.
My point is that medical schools want to see your achievement on science prereqs at the university undergraduate level. They all know that CC science courses are watered down and it's easy to get an A in them: http://www.usnews.com/education/blo...edical-schools-view-community-college-credits
 
Don't worry, he believes Yale will take him since they told him they accept CC classes. Yes, the HUGE keyword here being "non-trad".
The general consensus of the adcoms on SDN has been that CC sciences are fine, so long as you perform well on the MCAT to prove you have achieved competency in the material. It's all a moot point anyway though- his maturity level will be the cement shoes that drag his app into the watery abyss of rejection.
 
Most people working startups are putting in as many, if not more, hours than a physician in training. I've never known a successful businessman that wasn't putting in 80-100 hours a week well into his 30s. People seem to forget how much work it takes to build a successful company from the ground up, and act like if they weren't going into medicine, they could put in 40 hour weeks and pull 500k a year in the business world with little effort.

I never disagreed with that.

In fact, it always amazes me when people on SDN say '... the people making the real money are the ones starting businesses or inventing devices...' . yeah, as if thats easy.
 
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The general consensus of the adcoms on SDN has been that CC sciences are fine, so long as you perform well on the MCAT to prove you have achieved competency in the material. It's all a moot point anyway though- his maturity level will be the cement shoes that drag his app into the watery abyss of rejection.
Maturity level? LOL. Who's the one arguing with a teenager on an online thread?
 
In all seriousness, I remember reading somewhere that some NPs take a modified USMLE. Apparently, they don't do very well.
They tried using a modified version of Step 3 on Columbia grads and more than half failed that. Step 3 isn't even a clinical competency exam from what I understand, it is mostly patient management. If the best of NP grads are that bad at a watered down test gauging patient management, which is a staple of advanced nursing, they would probably fail a clinical exam en mass.
 
I'm not arguing at all, I'm stating reality. You're the one trying to play a game that is totally out of his league and not understanding where your failures lie.

I'd say we should get this thread back on track, but it was off the rails to begin with.
I don't think the OP even replied once.......?
 
They tried using a modified version of Step 3 on Columbia grads and more than half failed that. Step 3 isn't even a clinical competency exam from what I understand, it is mostly patient management. If the best of NP grads are that bad at a watered down test gauging patient management, which is a staple of advanced nursing, they would probably fail a clinical exam en mass.

I don't understand why people in certain occupations cannot accept (and value) their place in the system. Nurses and NPs are obviously useful to the health care system, and I'm sure they're appropriately valued by physicians, administrators and patients. By overreaching, all they're doing is making themselves out to be insecure. If they wanted to be physicians, they could have gone to medical school.

If they just want physician pay without physician accountability (malpractice), then they're definitely trying to have their cake and eat it too. Sucks for US physicians; your lobby isn't strong enough to fight back.
 
You're missing the point: No one cares what you've "accomplished" at 18. No one. Your immaturity and cockiness are unbearable.

This thread is funny because it reminds me of the USA National Spelling Bee. The kids who win it are like 15-18. Sure it may give them a leg up in college admissions. But beyond that, no one could care less. I imagine @Gregor Wiesmann being like the kid who won the spelling bee. Being all like 'What have you accomplished by 17?' HA HA
 
Will y'all please shut the hell up? My lord. A damn house thread turned into a flame war. Freakin pre-allo. Here's a picture of a house. Look at it and stop being a bunch of arse wipes to each other. Premeds, listen to your elders. Elders, stop being snarky to premeds. Freakin heck.

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Look. There's even a basement for the "help".
 
This thread is funny because it reminds me of the USA National Spelling Bee. The kids who win it are like 15-18. Sure it may give them a leg up in college admissions. But beyond that, no one could care less. I imagine @Gregor Wiesmann being like the kid who won the spelling bee. Being all like 'What have you accomplished by 17?' HA HA
Thanks man. That makes me feel good. Have a nice day.
 
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This thread is funny because it reminds me of the USA National Spelling Bee. The kids who win it are like 15-18. Sure it may give them a leg up in college admissions. But beyond that, no one could care less. I imagine @Gregor Wiesmann being like the kid who won the spelling bee. Being all like 'What have you accomplished by 17?' HA HA
 
No, it has nothing to do with being spectacular. Most people move on with their lives. There are tons of people who were "spectacular" in high school and fizzled out. If you think community college courses are taught better than AP courses with an exam or a university class, you are definitely not informed.

This phenomenon is only going to get worse as the current generation of pampered snowflakes matures. If I hear one more parent of a high schooler proudly tell me how "WE are applying to Harvard, Yale and Princeton..." :bang:
 
You're missing the point: No one cares what you've "accomplished" at 18. No one. Your immaturity and cockiness are unbearable.
Seriously. This guy can't get it through his head that nobody cares what he has done because it isn't nearly as spectacular as he believes it to be, no profession/olympic level athletics, no astonishing research, no management or creation of a great organization, no other contributions to the world or science that is of any notable or remarkable significance, yet he continues to say how "far ahead" he is and tries to call out people to measure his "worth" compared to theirs (even though he at the same time tries to say he doesn't care/isn't a little hothead). This seems like a completely hopeless and lost case -___- Hopefully he will grow up in the next few years before he applies for his sake.
 
Well you lived in a relatively rural area.

I believe tp13 is from a more urban part of a neighboring state. A lot of high schools in ND actually offer AP classes. I took several, did fine in them, but fell asleep during the exams and completely bombed them.
 
Seriously. This guy can't get it through his head that nobody cares what he has done because it isn't nearly as spectacular as he believes it to be, no profession/olympic level athletics, no astonishing research, no management or creation of a great organization, no other contributions to the world or science that is of any notable or remarkable significance, yet he continues to say how "far ahead" he is and tries to call out people to measure his "worth" compared to theirs (even though he at the same time tries to say he doesn't care/isn't a little hothead). This seems like a completely hopeless and lost case -___- Hopefully he will grow up in the next few years before he applies for his sake.
I agree he thinks he's spectacularly brilliant bc he's taken loads of community college classes for credit. Absolutely no insight into how low this is on the totem pole of achievement based on the other examples you mention. :smack:
 
I don't understand why people in certain occupations cannot accept (and value) their place in the system. Nurses and NPs are obviously useful to the health care system, and I'm sure they're appropriately valued by physicians, administrators and patients. By overreaching, all they're doing is making themselves out to be insecure. If they wanted to be physicians, they could have gone to medical school.

If they just want physician pay without physician accountability (malpractice), then they're definitely trying to have their cake and eat it too. Sucks for US physicians; your lobby isn't strong enough to fight back.
You should go look at the NP's aren't doctors thread in the allo forum, lots more on this topic there (and without all the random drama)
 
Will y'all please shut the hell up? My lord. A damn house thread turned into a flame war. Freakin pre-allo. Here's a picture of a house. Look at it and stop being a bunch of arse wipes to each other. Premeds, listen to your elders. Elders, stop being snarky to premeds. Freakin heck.

beautiful-house-hd-wallpaper.jpg

Look. There's even a basement for the "help".
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This is going to be my vacation hut once I'm a physician.
 
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I'll peg it at 24 or less, and he'll wonder why his CC science prereqs didn't prepare him well for the science sections of the MCAT.
I think it's interesting how much hate people heap on CC courses. I took some sciences at CC that were taught by professors from the big name nationally ranked state university, with the exact same format they used for their university students. Prepared me well enough to score in the mid 30s :shrug: