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911 Turbo said:
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garage of an emergency medicine physician...


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his house


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I don't believe that is the garage of an Emergency Medicine Physician, or of a Physician of any kind at all. I want to go into EM, and I know their salary is usually 200-300k depending on how many shifts they work. There's no way they could afford all that unless they invested in Microsoft or something. Oh, and I should mention, I would hate to be that rich......... I would much rather live an upper-middle class lifestyle than to have bags of money just sitting around.
 
sb247 said:
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I'm serious dude. I want to feel like I actually EARN my money, because if I don't, then buying fancy stuff won't be as nice. It's just like the difference between getting an A in a super hard class vs. a class where everyone gets an A. That's why I think EM is really cool; you earn your paycheck by being constantly on your feet for 12 hours saving lives. I would rather make 300k doing EM than making 600k as a Dermatologist.
 
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Gregor Wiesmann said:
I'm serious dude. I want to feel like I actually EARN my money, because if I don't, then buying fancy stuff won't be as nice. It's just like the difference between getting an A in a super hard class vs. a class where everyone gets an A. That's why I think EM is really cool; you earn your paycheck by being constantly on your feet for 12 hours saving lives. I would rather make 300k doing EM than making 600k as a Dermatologist.
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because the really rich people don't earn their money? now you get two emoticons... :uhno: :smack:
 
sb247 said:
because the really rich people don't earn their money? now you get two emoticons... :uhno: :smack:
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It's hard to argue with someone who doesn't understand your point of view. I'm saying that for me, I would feel more justified making 300k saving lives than making 600k helping people with their skin problems. Kapeesh? Oh, and I'm not giving you any emoticons because I'm 18 and feel like I can express the majority of my thoughts within the content of my writing.
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
It's hard to argue with someone who doesn't understand your point of view. I'm saying that for me, I would feel more justified making 300k saving lives than making 600k helping people with their skin problems. Kapeesh? Oh, and I'm not giving you any emoticons because I'm 18 and feel like I can express the majority of my thoughts within the content of my writing.
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My preferred field right now is EM too, but I'm not insular enough to discredit the lifesaving and life improving work of a good dermatologist. I'm sure @DermViser would agree that he might do slightly more than hand out acne cream for a living
 
sb247 said:
My preferred field right now is EM too, but I'm not insular enough to discredit the lifesaving and life improving work of a good dermatologist. I'm sure @DermViser would agree that he might do slightly more than hand out acne cream for a living
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We do a lot more than treating acne, but whatever, people tend to stick to their stereotypes of specialties anyways. Not my job to convince them. But he seems to know so much about medicine and specialties being that he's "Pre-health", and has it all figured out. The key is to choose a field that you are like, and are ok with the negatives. There's a reason people who choose a specialty going in, tend to change their minds by the time they graduate.

For me, I could never do EM, due to it's high burnout, very high stress, etc. There's a reason those in EM aren't able to go at that full speed for so many decades till the age of retirement. Eventually those years of weird hours, working with your typical EM population, etc. wears and tears on you. I know a few after finishing EM residency go work in urgent care, and if they want, they can always go back to EM.
 
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DermViser said:
We do a lot more than treating acne, but whatever, people tend to stick to their stereotypes of specialties anyways. Not my job to convince them. But he seems to know so much about medicine and specialties being that he's "Pre-health", and has it all figured out. The key is to choose a field that you are like, and are ok with the negatives. There's a reason people who choose a specialty going in, tend to change their minds by the time they graduate.

For me, I could never do EM, due to it's high burnout, very high stress, etc. There's a reason those in EM aren't able to go at that full speed for so many decades till the age of retirement. Eventually those years of weird hours, working with your typical EM population, etc. wears and tears on you. I know a few after finishing EM residency go work in urgent care, and if they want, they can always go back to EM.
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Thank you for pointing out the very reasons why I would feel more justified making money in EM than in Dermatology. And don't be making fun of me because I'm "Pre-Health" bro; I'm 18 and haven't decided what field I want yet.
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
Thank you for pointing out the very reasons why I would feel more justified making money in EM than in Dermatology. And don't be making fun of me because I'm "Pre-Health" bro; I'm 18 and haven't decided what field I want yet.
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the only justification you ever need in life is agreeing to a price for a task/product and then providing that task/product....there is no morality in a economic transactions
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
Thank you for pointing out the very reasons why I would feel more justified making money in EM than in Dermatology. And don't be making fun of me because I'm "Pre-Health" bro; I'm 18 and haven't decided what field I want yet.
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You are more than happy to choose any field you want. Like I said, Dermatology is MUCH more than just treating acne. If that was the case, any primary care provider could do it, but they can't. It would be like me saying all EM doctors do is treat drunks and those who fall off ladders. True Emergency Medicine is also not like the old tv show. Your values on what you what in a job and what you want in a career that you will practice for the rest of your life will change. You're 18 now. You'll realize that when you graduate at age 26.

Also @Gregor Wiesmann, realize that reimbursement schemes change all the time, so you can't rely on your specialty making a lot of money. Things are changing, esp. with Obamacare, so what is "high-paying" now, may not be by the time you get up there. That's why it's important to like a field outside the paycheck, bc it will be a long time before you can get that paycheck.
 
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Narmerguy said:
Don't assume he can actually support it, many people live well above their means in order to keep up appearances. Regardless, you'll find super wealthy people at the top of many professional careers. It's not worth dwelling on these things when the vast majority of physicians live far below this kind of lifestyle. You want to know the kinds of houses other doctors live in?



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Typical upper middle class homes. Not flashy but still better than what the vast majority of Americans have.
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This house would go for about $135k in the metro area I grew up in. I could buy it on my PGY5 resident salary and be paying less per month than rent on a 1BR in Providence. It's not the size of the house. it's the location.
 
WingedOx said:
This house would go for about $135k in the metro area I grew up in. I could buy it on my PGY5 resident salary and be paying less per month than rent on a 1BR in Providence. It's not the size of the house. it's the location.
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Thank you captain obvious.

@Gregor Wiesmann you are 18. Chances are that the idealism and naïveté will fade.
 
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chizledfrmstone said:
Why you hating on an EM physician for having a house so sweet it comes up on Google search?


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Because it is not. Those pics have come up on a bodybuilding.com forum and other car websites. The pic with all the cars on the lawn it says it was a meet up.
 
That house has been posted on SDN a ton. He's a rich dude who happens to be a doctor, not a rich doctor.
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
I don't believe that is the garage of an Emergency Medicine Physician, or of a Physician of any kind at all. I want to go into EM, and I know their salary is usually 200-300k depending on how many shifts they work. There's no way they could afford all that unless they invested in Microsoft or something. Oh, and I should mention, I would hate to be that rich......... I would much rather live an upper-middle class lifestyle than to have bags of money just sitting around.
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The Buff OP said:
Dude, quit the bull. You can find these pics on the internet by searching for nice garages.
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No... its legit. He's an EM who invested his money very well apparently. His wife is a radiologist.
 
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Muffinho said:
I want a specialty where I can sit in a lab and avoid interacting with people (that includes NPs/PAs)
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Pathology? A friend of mine also wants to pursue that. He's hungry for it lol. It's kind of cute., in a pathetic kind of way.
 
@Gregor Wiesmann you are 18. Chances are that the idealism and naïveté will fade.[/QUOTE]
Okay.......remind me what idealism we are talking about again?
 
La Presse said:
Pathology? A friend of mine also wants to pursue that. He's hungry for it lol. It's kind of cute., in a pathetic kind of way.
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I'm just a premed, so my opinion could change a lot by the time I'm through medical school, but right now, the ABMG Medical Genetics programs are super interesting to me. Just not worth it if I attend medical school in the US (high debt for a low paying specialty). Cheaper to do a PhD and end up in just about the same position (they have lab fellowships for postdocs).
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
It's hard to argue with someone who doesn't understand your point of view. I'm saying that for me, I would feel more justified making 300k saving lives than making 600k helping people with their skin problems. Kapeesh? Oh, and I'm not giving you any emoticons because I'm 18 and feel like I can express the majority of my thoughts within the content of my writing.
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Lol.. You have a lot to learn if you don't understanding treating people and improving their quality of life, "just helping people with their skin problems" can make absolutely huge differences to people's lives, and it surely isn't the case that derms only do that. And if you are going into medicine to only "save lives" you really need to stop watching emergency medicine shows on TV for your views on what medicine and emergency medicine really are like.
 
DermViser said:
You are more than happy to choose any field you want. Like I said, Dermatology is MUCH more than just treating acne. If that was the case, any primary care provider could do it, but they can't. It would be like me saying all EM doctors do is treat drunks and those who fall off ladders. True Emergency Medicine is also not like the old tv show. Your values on what you what in a job and what you want in a career that you will practice for the rest of your life will change. You're 18 now. You'll realize that when you graduate at age 26.

Also @Gregor Wiesmann, realize that reimbursement schemes change all the time, so you can't rely on your specialty making a lot of money. Things are changing, esp. with Obamacare, so what is "high-paying" now, may not be by the time you get up there. That's why it's important to like a field outside the paycheck, bc it will be a long time before you can get that paycheck.
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I have realized that I will be able to live the life I want(financially speaking) regardless of what specialty I choose. If I picked EM, it would be for working three days a week and being "on the front lines of healthcare". I guess there's an issue with drug seekers and such, but I would also get to treat people from car accidents/other trauma. I realize that I should choose whatever I find interesting and can see myself doing for 30+ years. Thanks for the advice though!
 
Muffinho said:
I'm just a premed, so my opinion could change a lot by the time I'm through medical school, but right now, the ABMG Medical Genetics programs are super interesting to me. Just not worth it if I attend medical school in the US (high debt for a low paying specialty). Cheaper to do a PhD and end up in just about the same position (they have lab fellowships for postdocs).
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Yes. I'm familiar with the medical genetics certification program. It's pretty neat to be able to incorporate those types of consultations to your practice or skillset. I'm aware of pipline and loan forgiveness programs for primary care that can definitely mitigate debt.

It may be worthwhile looking into those for your specialty.
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
I have realized that I will be able to live the life I want(financially speaking) regardless of what specialty I choose. If I picked EM, it would be for working three days a week and being "on the front lines of healthcare". I guess there's an issue with drug seekers and such, but I would also get to treat people from car accidents/other trauma. I realize that I should choose whatever I find interesting and can see myself doing for 30+ years. Thanks for the advice though!
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ROTFL! You'll be working a lot more than 3 days a week. As an EM doc you're a hospital employee. You don't get to decide how much you work. Not to mention as an EM doc, you will up for nights, weekends, and holidays whenever your grueling 12 hour shift is when you have to pore through patients like hotcakes. You will miss family and friend birthdays, weddings, holidays. You will see soon enough how "financially" rewarding it will be by the time you get there, if at all, once Obamacare is fully implemented - whose goal is to cut healthcare costs, a.k.a. your salary.

Along with being on the "front lines" you will also be the first to be sued. There's a reason that EM docs have such high malpractice rates. You are the first point of contact for a patient.
 
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La Presse said:
Yes. I'm familiar with the medical genetics certification program. It's pretty neat to be able to incorporate those types of consultations to your practice or skillset. I'm aware of pipline and loan forgiveness programs for primary care that can definitely mitigate debt.

It may be worthwhile looking into those for your specialty.
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I'm not sure how those programs work for Canadians studying in the US. Hopefully, I get into a Canadian medical school. I think Pathology has a better job market in Canada (and I think standard pay at 340k for AP).

On those Myers-Briggs personality tests, I score 100% for introverted so I think it is best I stay in a lab lol
 
DermViser said:
ROTFL! You'll be working a lot more than 3 days a week. As an EM doc you're a hospital employee. You don't get to decide how much you work. Not to mention as an EM doc, you will up for nights, weekends, and holidays whenever your grueling 12 hour shift is when you have to pore through patients like hotcakes. You will miss family and friend birthdays, weddings, holidays. You will see soon enough how "financially" rewarding it will be by the time you get there, if at all, once Obamacare is fully implemented - whose goal is to cut healthcare costs, a.k.a. your salary.

Along with being on the "front lines" you will also be the first to be sued. There's a reason that EM docs have such high malpractice rates. You are the first point of contact for a patient.
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Don't kill his spirit, yet. :laugh:
 
lmn said:
Lol.. You have a lot to learn if you don't understanding treating people and improving their quality of life, "just helping people with their skin problems" can make absolutely huge differences to people's lives, and it surely isn't the case that derms only do that. And if you are going into medicine to only "save lives" you really need to stop watching emergency medicine shows on TV for your views on what medicine and emergency medicine really are like.
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Dude, you don't know me; don't pretend like you do. I have never even seen an episode of Grey's Anatomy. The content I have seen from the E.R. has been Youtube clips of cameramen following around doctors on shift, and also going to the E.R. three times(yeah, I guess you could say my childhood was eventful). Everything I said was only relative to me; I simply stated that I wouldn't feel justified by treating skin conditions and making 600k. If you do, then great. I absolutely realize the value that people place on their skin health/appearance, and it is wonderful that there are doctors out there working in the field of Dermatology. I never stated that I was going into Medicine to save lives, rather, I pointed out that there is a very good chance of doing so in Emergency Medicine. I'm also strongly interested in Ophthalmology after interviewing an Ophthalmologist at my local hospital when I was 15. I am a camera freak, and optics are fascinating, so I think that it would be a great field for me.
 
DermViser said:
ROTFL! You'll be working a lot more than 3 days a week. As an EM doc you're a hospital employee. You don't get to decide how much you work. Not to mention as an EM doc, you will up for nights, weekends, and holidays whenever your grueling 12 hour shift is when you have to pore through patients like hotcakes. You will miss family and friend birthdays, weddings, holidays. You will see soon enough how "financially" rewarding it will be by the time you get there, if at all, once Obamacare is fully implemented - whose goal is to cut healthcare costs, a.k.a. your salary.

Along with being on the "front lines" you will also be the first to be sued. There's a reason that EM docs have such high malpractice rates. You are the first point of contact for a patient.
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You don't know what you're talking about. There are PLENTY of EM doctors who work three days a week. Get your facts right buddy.
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
Dude, you don't know me; don't pretend like you do. I have never even seen an episode of Grey's Anatomy. The content I have seen from the E.R. has been Youtube clips of cameramen following around doctors on shift, and also going to the E.R. three times(yeah, I guess you could say my childhood was eventful). Everything I said was only relative to me; I simply stated that I wouldn't feel justified by treating skin conditions and making 600k. If you do, then great. I absolutely realize the value that people place on their skin health/appearance, and it is wonderful that there are doctors out there working in the field of Dermatology. I never stated that I was going into Medicine to save lives, rather, I pointed out that there is a very good chance of doing so in Emergency Medicine. I'm also strongly interested in Ophthalmology after interviewing an Ophthalmologist at my local hospital when I was 15. I am a camera freak, and optics are fascinating, so I think that it would be a great field for me.
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If you think your average Dermatologist is making $600 K, you're crazy.
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
You don't know what you're talking about. There are PLENTY of EM doctors who work three days a week. Get your facts right buddy.
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They work 12 hour grueling shifts, buddy. And if you work for a hospital, as an EM doc, you'll work more than 12 shifts a month.
 
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lmn said:
Wow we have the most high and mighty premed ever it seems, and he isn't even in college... You haven't even gotten close to taking/passing the early weed out classes of college and you seem to have everything figured out, congrats.
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I can't believe the ignorance you guys. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME.

FYI: HERE'S A LITTLE BIO ABOUT ME.

18 years old. I began taking credit full time at my local Community College when I was a Sophomore in high school. I am a a high school Senior now, and will be graduating this June with my Associate's degree(114 college-level credits). I completed General Chemistry last year, and I'm finishing up General Biology right now. I will begin to shadow a Dentist in two weeks(hence the pre-health), and I have interviewed an Ophthalmologist and a Vascular Surgeon. I am transferring to University this June with a 3.7 GPA and will be taking Organic Chemistry over the Summer, and I am Majoring in Behavioral Neuroscience. This Fall, I will be an 18 year old COLLEGE Junior. I also have 300+ hours of volunteering and counting.

Now you know a little bit about me bro.
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
I can't believe the ignorance you guys. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME.

FYI: HERE'S A LITTLE BIO ABOUT ME.

18 years old. I began taking credit full time at my local Community College when I was a Sophomore in high school. I am a a high school Senior now, and will be graduating this June with my Associate's degree(114 college-level credits). I completed General Chemistry last year, and I'm finishing up General Biology right now. I will begin to shadow a Dentist in two weeks(hence the pre-health), and I have interviewed an Ophthalmologist and a Vascular Surgeon. I am transferring to University this June with a 3.7 GPA and will be taking Organic Chemistry over the Summer, and I am Majoring in Behavioral Neuroscience. This Fall, I will be an 18 year old COLLEGE Junior. I also have 300+ hours of volunteering and counting.

Now you know a little bit about me bro.
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Hey BRO, how ya planning on buying all your designer colognes?(http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/cologne.1066804/). Better gun for that derm $$$
 
Gregor Wiesmann said:
I don't believe that is the garage of an Emergency Medicine Physician, or of a Physician of any kind at all. I want to go into EM, and I know their salary is usually 200-300k depending on how many shifts they work. There's no way they could afford all that unless they invested in Microsoft or something. Oh, and I should mention, I would hate to be that rich......... I would much rather live an upper-middle class lifestyle than to have bags of money just sitting around.
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If it makes you feel better that last picture if probably a G2G for Ferrari enthusiasts.

On the right side you can see other cars parked and a few people. Probably hobbyists who get together and talk about stuff.

I know a few people who collect watches and at G2Gs the waiters are shocked to learn the Panerai 233 in front of them is worth the price of a used Toyota.
 
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Gregor Wiesmann said:
haha, you got me! Nice come back. And FYI, a good bottle of cologne is $90 and can last for over a year. Not sure what that has to do with my academic/life achievements though......?
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:waves white flag:
We're just impressed with your CV
 
chizledfrmstone said:
If it makes you feel better that last picture if probably a G2G for Ferrari enthusiasts.

On the right side you can see other cars parked and a few people. Probably hobbyists who get together and talk about stuff.

I know a few people who collect watches and at G2Gs the waiters are shocked to learn the Panerai 233 in front of them is worth the price of a used Toyota.
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Thanks for the info! Oh, and I like your profile pic man...... is that a 911 GT3?
 
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