Does Anyone Else Find It Funny!?

[ku06]

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Does anyone else find it funny that the vast majority of medical students and pre med students say that money is not their motivation, but when you look at what the most popular jobs are they all have the highest salaries (in comparison to the jobs that are underrepresented, help people, but still cannot fill their spots). Any thoughts on how the medical community can end this stigma of saying you want to earn an amazing living for your 10 yrs of education?

 

[YouDontKnowJack]

no. everyone knows doctors make a lot relative to the US population, and there's no reason to explain otherwise.

"Making 6 figures, and proud of it."

aint nothing funny about it at all.

 

[nala]

Does anyone else find it funny that the vast majority of medical students and pre med students say that money is not their motivation, but when you look at what the most popular jobs are they all have the highest salaries (in comparison to the jobs that are underrepresented, help people, but still cannot fill their spots).

I think reality sets in when you start getting your loan statements.

 

[Obedeli]

Any thoughts on how the medical community can end this stigma of saying you want to earn an amazing living for your 10 yrs of education?

The stigma of earning a good living . Should I have to go to confession for this?! Give me a freaking break! I wouldn't be doing this much work to make $30,000.

 

[YouDontKnowJack]

i'd guess only 10% of docs and med students don't care about the money. That says enough about the other 90% of us. 😀

 

[ddmo]

Any thoughts on how the medical community can end this stigma of saying you want to earn an amazing living for your 10 yrs of education?

Sure, everyone can stop lying.

I'll start, SHOW ME THE MONEY $$$$$$$$$$ !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Blake]

Sure, everyone can stop lying.

I'll start, SHOW ME THE MONEY $$$$$$$$$$ !!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude, show us the bling ! 😀

 

[Mike59]

Does anyone else find it funny that the vast majority of medical students and pre med students say that money is not their motivation, but when you look at what the most popular jobs are they all have the highest salaries (in comparison to the jobs that are underrepresented, help people, but still cannot fill their spots). Any thoughts on how the medical community can end this stigma of saying you want to earn an amazing living for your 10 yrs of education?

It's called CLINICAL ROTATIONS.
Many people are idealisitic at the beginning, but clerkship and residency involves spending a few weeks on the OB/GYN service, getting yelled at by surgeons on a daily basis for months on end, and treating patients who don't listen to our advice or give a rats ass about their own health, and you'll see why in the end, the least you can do for yourself is establish a good standard of living, everything else is gravy.

 

[Luke816]

I suspect they are the 10% who can afford not to care.

this was my thought

 

[ddmo]

Dude, show us the bling ! 😀

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[Realest]

I think that in addition to money, people might also go for the highest paid specialties for prestige/recognition - afterall, these are also the most competitive. I think the seemingly altruistic sentiment among med students is often misinterpreted - of course they're doing it partly for the money/job stability, but there's a lot of other factors -interest, authority, personal history, etc - in the mix as well, or else they would have pursued one of a hundred or so other lucrative careers out there.

 

[doccomet]

I think that in addition to money, people might also go for the highest paid specialties for prestige/recognition - afterall, these are also the most competitive. I think the seemingly altruistic sentiment among med students is often misinterpreted - of course they're doing it partly for the money/job stability, but there's a lot of other factors -interest, authority, personal history, etc - in the mix as well, or else they would have pursued one of a hundred or so other lucrative careers out there.

As a bottom dweller on the payscale (Academic family doc 9 years out) I still make more than 80% of the citizens of this country and am fortunate to love what I do. I can't afford a porsche, a 6000 square foot house or a 32 foot boat, but we have everything we need and most of what we want. "We" includes a wife and 3 kids. I could make 3 times as much and life would suck if I had to do radiology. Nothing against those guys, but sitting in a dark closet all day would kill me. As for respect, my patients and colleagues who know the quality of my care respect me, and that's more than enough. good luck

 

[PineappleGirl]

Sure, everyone can stop lying.

I'll start, SHOW ME THE MONEY $$$$$$$$$$ !!!!!!!!!!!!

Hehehe, yeah I can't imagine many people would subject themselves to so much schooling were they not at least in part motivated by the $$$$$.

And btw, ddmoore, I love your avatar.
I just finished anatomy. I miss cutting things. Hehehe.

 

[Diceman M.D.]

Money's nice and great, but even better than money is the COOLNESS factor. I entered this field so I can be a hardcore mother****er, Iceman in Top Gun, elite asskicker, Real Ultimate Power Ninja Master of Medicine. Cubicle job? Hell No! I don't want to spend my days beating the crap out of fax machines, I want to beat the crap out of giant tumors and cysts and stuff.

 

[powermd]

Interestingly, if you read Liar's Poker (cool book about the culture at Salomon Brothers during the mortgage bond trading explosion in the 80's) Michael Lewis notes that it was considered a uncouth to talk about money when applying for a job at Salomon, or when angling for a job with a particular trading group (and these guys spend all their days blindly pursuing $$$). You were supposed to talk up the thrill of a good trade, deals, etc, when it was obviously all BS. A good trader could make at least a million/yr, and that was in the 80's a few years out of college.

 

[MD'05]

I want to beat the crap out of giant tumors and cysts and stuff.

I am getting a visual of some guy in a crotch-strangling leotard beating a giant tumor until it fights back no more.

 

[TruTrooper]

It's called CLINICAL ROTATIONS.
Many people are idealisitic at the beginning, but clerkship and residency involves spending a few weeks on the OB/GYN service, getting yelled at by surgeons on a daily basis for months on end, and treating patients who don't listen to our advice or give a rats ass about their own health, and you'll see why in the end, the least you can do for yourself is establish a good standard of living, everything else is gravy.

Pretty much sums it all up. We can all go home now.

 

[tupac_don]

Does anyone else find it funny that the vast majority of medical students and pre med students say that money is not their motivation, but when you look at what the most popular jobs are they all have the highest salaries (in comparison to the jobs that are underrepresented, help people, but still cannot fill their spots). Any thoughts on how the medical community can end this stigma of saying you want to earn an amazing living for your 10 yrs of education?

I think the deal is that people do want to help others, but don't want to get used and want to get paid. I mean I think of people see it, why would I work 10x as hard as someone else, for less pay and just more work. So that's why I think a lot of people are not going into areas that help people as you say but are not well paid.

 

[IlianaSedai]

when you look at what the most popular jobs are they all have the highest salaries

Not true! The largest numbers and the greatest percentages go into primary care. Not the highest salaries.

Competitiveness does not equal popularity OR majority.

 

[fun8stuff]

Not true! The largest numbers and the greatest percentages go into primary care. Not the highest salaries.

Competitiveness does not equal popularity OR majority.

ummm... this is only because primary care is where the most need is... the biggest supply. Primary care is the easiest thing to get into. Yes, derm, rads, ortho, etc are the most competitive bc they pay the best w/ best lifestyle. Yes, a lot of people dont even bother applying bc they dont have the stats, but that doesnt mean that primary care is more popular. Primary care is probably the least popular, which is why the need for primary care docs is so high... if u read any report, it will tell you this.

 

[b&ierstiefel]

Does anyone else find it funny that the vast majority of medical students and pre med students say that money is not their motivation, but when you look at what the most popular jobs are they all have the highest salaries (in comparison to the jobs that are underrepresented, help people, but still cannot fill their spots). Any thoughts on how the medical community can end this stigma of saying you want to earn an amazing living for your 10 yrs of education?

i think money is part of many people's motivation. it's just that when one is applying to medical schools, money is seen as a taboo subject.

 

[simoin]

this has been a hot topic at my school because half of our AOA people are going into Derm or Psych, big bucks, low stress.

i think what we have to realize is that few of us have a clear idea what its really going to be like and how medicine limits the rest of your life. after you see how the surgeons/ob-gyn/hospitalist people never see their families it can be hard to make that a choice. our priorities and our realities change in med school, its no wonder people go for lifestyle over idealism.

either that or they are all sell outs!!!

jesse - MS4

 

[IgweEmeka]

Money is definitely a factor. If not now, it eventually will. Because with money come bitches and respect.

 

[Mutt]

Money is definitely a factor. If not now, it eventually will. Because with money come bitches and respect.

Was that what you put on your Personal Statement...? 😉

 

[lfesiam]

to the OP: how about nursing?

 

[fun8stuff]

this has been a hot topic at my school because half of our AOA people are going into Derm or Psych, big bucks, low stress.

i think what we have to realize is that few of us have a clear idea what its really going to be like and how medicine limits the rest of your life. after you see how the surgeons/ob-gyn/hospitalist people never see their families it can be hard to make that a choice. our priorities and our realities change in med school, its no wonder people go for lifestyle over idealism.

either that or they are all sell outs!!!

jesse - MS4

psych make big money (in comparison to other specialities)? i was not aware of this.... i thought the avg was around 120k or so... which is low in comparison to other specialities (high in comparison to most other jobs)

 

[Leukocyte]

psych make big money (in comparison to other specialities)? i was not aware of this.... i thought the avg was around 120k or so... which is low in comparison to other specialities (high in comparison to most other jobs)

Big money relative to the stress and the hours they put in. Also nursing home/assisted living facilities visits = good money. Not to mention psychotherapy with 150 -250 green ones / hour.

I mean there are General Surgeons, Ob/Gyns, Pediatricians who work their butts off, live crappy stressfull unpredictable lives, and get way less than they deserve.

 

[fun8stuff]

Big money relative to the stress and the hours they put in. Also nursing home/assisted living facilities visits = good money. Not to mention psychotherapy with 150 -250 green ones / hour.

I mean there are General Surgeons, Ob/Gyns, Pediatricians who work their butts off, live crappy stressfull unpredictable lives, and get way less than they deserve.

hmmm.... sounds interesting... is psych getting more competitive then?

 

[Ross434]

hmmm.... sounds interesting... is psych getting more competitive then?

No, because nobody thinks it's real medicine

 

[YouDontKnowJack]

Money is definitely a factor. If not now, it eventually will. Because with money come bitches and respect.

word, playa

 

[fun8stuff]

No, because nobody thinks it's real medicine

lol

 

[criminallyinane]

I don't want to spend my days beating the crap out of fax machines