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This is very immature, if you are not a troll.

Focus on getting in. You might find that after putting in so much work it's actually not that hard to have a full time job and hobbies. In other words, you might get used to the work load. Physicians can take 1 month of vacation per year if they play their cards right, and a year goes by quickly. You can also do locums and work for 6 weeks on and 3 months off if you want. It probably looks bad if you try to join a group after doing this but your skills will always be in demand somewhere on this planet.

Don't expect a great deal of respect from people and you will be fine. If everyone did this, people would die. So don't flaunt your lifestyle if you get to that point.
Let's see... full time and 50+ hours/week like everyone in this thread wants would look something like:

Monday - Friday work from 8 am to 6 pm... come home after a 45 minute drive, take a shower and eat dinner. Would probably be 8 pm by the time all that is done, leaving me with a measly few hours for free time. So pretty much no real free time 5 days/week. And even if I was only on 8 am to 4 pm, I'd be all ready to play video games probably around 5:30 - 6 pm. But I like watching sports, and they often start around 7 pm and go until 9:30 pm. So looks like it's either/or for me on weekdays... either sports or video games, not both. Well, that's a problem!

Saturday and Sunday off. Well, Sundays are for football from 12 noon to past 10 pm, so can't play video games then... which brings us to my Saturday off. Yeah, sorry, but I'm gonna need more than a grand total of 1 full day to play video games.

This sounds better: Monday and Tuesday (maybe Wednesday) I work from 7 am to 5 pm. Come home and chill. Then Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday I have 96 hours to dedicate to video games, sports, sleep, food, etc. Sounds better to me.

Btw, never heard of these locums positions for doctors, but if they're anything like you say they are... I'd definitely at least look into it.
 
This is why I stay away from other gamers. Sigh
 
I played WoW in High School and I actually raided with an EM who would play on his off days. Maybe you should just work full-time EM rifle? You could work the full hours so that you can be practiced and competent and on your time off you won't have any call so no one will have to know how much of an enormous prick you are?
 
Honestly, I don't even think this guy could make it through med school and residency if his life is that consumed by precious gaming time.
Stop; already too far. MCAT score isn't even in yet lololololololol. 3.9 GPA is easy at many schools with average intelligence. Ain't gonna cut it on the MCAT.
 
I played WoW in High School and I actually raided with an EM who would play on his off days. Maybe you should just work full-time EM rifle? You could work the full hours so that you can be practiced and competent and on your time off you won't have any call so no one will have to know how much of an enormous prick you are?
I could if I wanted to, but why work full time when I could work two 12-hour shifts/week and reel in ~120-140K annually? Plus, full time would mean what, four 10-hour shifts/week? Five 8-hour shifts/week? LOL, what a joke. See my response to victoriah on why hell will freeze over before I ever work those hours.
 
Honestly, I don't even think this guy could make it through med school and residency if his life is that consumed by precious gaming time.
Please... anyone who gets in will make it. Pass rates are what, >96% on average for matriculated students? I'd easily make it through the 8 years just like everyone else.
 
By the way, OP, have you heard of 'teleradiology'? a.k.a. reading biomedical imaging studies without necessarily being on-site. Sounds like the life.... Work from home, have a computer with radiology spec imaging monitor etx, read imaging studies, make bank. All while wearing jammies munching on junk food.

seems like it would fit your bill.
 
Please... anyone who gets in will make it. Pass rates are what, >96% on average for matriculated students? I'd easily make it through the 8 years just like everyone else.
But you won't get in lmao

>96% is not 100%. lol
 
By the way, OP, have you heard of 'teleradiology'? a.k.a. ireading biomedical imaging studies without necessarily being on-site. Sounds like the life.... Work from home, have a computer with radiology spec imaging monitor etx, read imaging studies, make bank. All while wearing jammies munching on junk food.
Yeah I've heard of it, but radiology from what I hear is tough to match into. I have no intention of putting in 14 hour study days during my summer break after 2nd year like some of these other kids just to match into my "dream specialty". Why waste all that time studying when I can get a mediocre step 1 score with half the effort and still get a job that gives me 100K+, unmatched security, and 4-5 vacation days/week? Work smarter, not harder.
 
^ Oh, ok. I just thought you seemed like someone who wouldn't like being around the 'annoying, icky, underclass' (or patients as the rest of us call them) so I figured that radiology might fit your bill. Especially since radiologists can sit at a computer all day (and surely you'd enjoy that too)
 
By the way, OP, have you heard of 'teleradiology'? a.k.a. reading biomedical imaging studies without necessarily being on-site. Sounds like the life.... Work from home, have a computer with radiology spec imaging monitor etx, read imaging studies, make bank. All while wearing jammies munching on junk food.

seems like it would fit your bill.

But then you have to move to Australia.
 
This is the real world now? You're delusional.

Also those people have never been laid.

Also you suck.
This kid will never get laid. I guess it's fitting he's spending so much time working on dexterity and perfecting work with his hands/fingers...God knows he'll need it. Ha :naughty:
 
Yeah I've heard of it, but radiology from what I hear is tough to match into. I have no intention of putting in 14 hour study days during my summer break after 2nd year like some of these other kids just to match into my "dream specialty". Why waste all that time studying when I can get a mediocre step 1 score with half the effort and still get a job that gives me 100K+, unmatched security, and 4-5 vacation days/week? Work smarter, not harder.
If you spend half the effort of others on Step 1, with your demonstrated work ethic, you will fail it. Hard. Harder than your planned life will ever be, kid.

Come back with a satisfactory MCAT score first before more life planning. I will personally buy you a pink Gant shirt and Taylor suit of your choice if you score in 90th percentile, rich boy.
 
If you spend half the effort of others on Step 1, with your demonstrated work ethic, you will fail it. Hard. Harder than your planned life will ever be, kid.

Come back with a satisfactory MCAT score first before more life planning. I will personally buy you a pink Gant shirt and Taylor suit of your choice if you score in 90th percentile, rich boy.

you'll buy him a pink shirt. 😀
 
But you won't get in lmao

>96% is not 100%. lol

moop said:
If you spend half the effort of others on Step 1, with your demonstrated work ethic, you will fail it. Hard. Harder than your planned life will ever be, kid.

Come back with a satisfactory MCAT score first before more life planning. I will personally buy you a pink Gant shirt and Taylor suit of your choice if you score in 90th percentile, rich boy.
I wouldn't bet on it. I'd say I have a lot more going for me than you do. Just gotta add some research and volunteering and I should be good to go.

On another note, I sense a touch of hostility from your posts. You still fuming over my "blue collar" post from earlier? Dude, I already told you I meant no disrespect. My apologies if I offended you, but as I said already, I'm good buddies with lots of kids of your ilk. Heck, I game with them all the time. I have nothing but admiration and respect for self-made scrappers like you. Just saying that I'd rather not live/work like you do. Peace out gee.
 
I wouldn't bet on it. I'd say I have a lot more going for me than you do. Just gotta add some research and volunteering and I should be good to go.

On another note, I sense a touch of hostility from your posts. You still fuming over my "blue collar" post from earlier? Dude, I already told you I meant no disrespect. My apologies if I offended you, but as I said already, I'm good buddies with lots of kids of your ilk. Heck, I game with them all the time. I have nothing but admiration and respect for self-made scrappers like you. Just saying that I'd rather not live/work like you do. Peace out gee.
lol you really don't get that my family is probably just as rich as your is, do you? There's hostility because I don't respect the way you want to live your life. Sure, it's not a crime, but I don't like it. The bet stands because if you want to talk big on cash and gold, I can afford to talk big on cash and gold, trust me. I didn't get into my eating club or the finance industry by being blue-collar, kid. I grew up in this.

Now go study for your MCAT. You'll need to.
 
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Sure buddy, whatever you say. But where I come from (the real world), loads of people in their 30s are still logging 50+ hours/week on Warcraft, Mass Effect, Skyrim, CoD, GTA, etc. Have fun with a lifetime of getting up at 5 am every day, working 12 hour shifts/24 hour calls, and getting paged past midnight while I'm sleeping in until 10 am and living like I want to for 4-5 days every single week. Gonna be sweet and I'll have zero regrets.😛
These people usually live in their parent's basement and work 2-3 days a week....part time, at Wal-Mart.
 
These people usually live in their parent's basement and work 2-3 days a week....part time, at Wal-Mart.
Usually, but I'll be the exception. Plus, there's a world of a difference between a doctor's salary and Wal-Mart clerk's salary. I don't even understand the "don't go into medicine for the money" cliche. In fact, this is the BEST line of work if you want to make money. The average anything else makes substantially less than the average doctor. You won't sniff the average doctor's salary in anything else unless you're working the equivalent of 2 full time jobs. Truth.
 
lol you really don't get that my family is probably just as rich as your is, do you? There's hostility because I don't respect the way you want to live your life. Sure, it's not a crime, but I don't like it. The bet stands because if you want to talk big on cash and gold, I can afford to talk big on cash and gold, trust me. I didn't get into my eating club or the finance industry by being blue-collar, kid. I grew up in this.

Now go study for your MCAT. You'll need to.
Sure they are, scrapper. Sure they are. If they really were, I don't think you'd have been raging over my last few posts the way you were. Like I said though, you and the rest of the proletariat make great contributions to this world and society could not function without your kind. I'm just gonna have a way better life than you is all I'm saying.
 
I feel your envy, but don't take it out on me. I'm just exercising my right as a free man to live how I want to. You can do the same if you want to, or you can slave away during your prime years and feel good about how big of a difference you are making in the world.

Either way, I'm gaming for the next 20+ years and I'll cherish every minute of it. Peace out. :horns:

I know that you want a wife and 3 kids too. You can game AND do all of that 😀
 
Usually, but I'll be the exception. Plus, there's a world of a difference between a doctor's salary and Wal-Mart clerk's salary. I don't even understand the "don't go into medicine for the money" cliche. In fact, this is the BEST line of work if you want to make money. The average anything else makes substantially less than the average doctor. You won't sniff the average doctor's salary in anything else unless you're working the equivalent of 2 full time jobs. Truth.

Also, you are 100% aware that you'll be on home call a lot, answering patient's messages at home, doing lots of charts, etc. So it's not just 2-3 days in the office and that's that. Plus, all the reading to do. So, there is time for gaming, taking care of your FAMILY, hanging out with all your friends(I didn't see you say anything about that.....since that'll take up a huge amount of time), etc.
 
Let's see... full time and 50+ hours/week like everyone in this thread wants would look something like:

Monday - Friday work from 8 am to 6 pm... come home after a 45 minute drive, take a shower and eat dinner. Would probably be 8 pm by the time all that is done, leaving me with a measly few hours for free time. So pretty much no real free time 5 days/week. And even if I was only on 8 am to 4 pm, I'd be all ready to play video games probably around 5:30 - 6 pm. But I like watching sports, and they often start around 7 pm and go until 9:30 pm. So looks like it's either/or for me on weekdays... either sports or video games, not both. Well, that's a problem!

Saturday and Sunday off. Well, Sundays are for football from 12 noon to past 10 pm, so can't play video games then... which brings us to my Saturday off. Yeah, sorry, but I'm gonna need more than a grand total of 1 full day to play video games.

This sounds better: Monday and Tuesday (maybe Wednesday) I work from 7 am to 5 pm. Come home and chill. Then Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday I have 96 hours to dedicate to video games, sports, sleep, food, etc. Sounds better to me.

Btw, never heard of these locums positions for doctors, but if they're anything like you say they are... I'd definitely at least look into it.

Where are your going out time, time with friends, doing errands, grocery shopping, family time, etc. It's not like you'll spend ALL your hours with video games and sports and food lmao

Dude, you can play video games after sports. Don't be a weak widdle baby! And football is only in the fall on Sundays. Besides, not all the games are worth watching.

Would you want to waste 3 hours watching the Jaguars go against the Bills? It's like watching the Astros vs. Cubs 😛
 
This is why I stay away from other gamers. Sigh

D:

I'm a normal gamer :O

Rifle might not be able to comprehend...but I log a good amount of gaming hours, work 70-80 hrs a week, AND have an amazing life. More importantly, I save good time for friends and occasional dating. Time management and balance FTW.
 
Yeah I've heard of it, but radiology from what I hear is tough to match into. I have no intention of putting in 14 hour study days during my summer break after 2nd year like some of these other kids just to match into my "dream specialty". Why waste all that time studying when I can get a mediocre step 1 score with half the effort and still get a job that gives me 100K+, unmatched security, and 4-5 vacation days/week? Work smarter, not harder.

But if you don't work hard, you'll get a LOW paying speciality...
 
Of course you are. You're just mad I slammed you in every single game we dueled. :naughty:

And it's 😳, not :O :slap::nono: And I think D: is the same as :arghh:

Your internet lags as bad as rifle's maturity level. Cheater cheater pumpkin eater!

😱 is the :O

:panda:
 
Sure they are, scrapper. Sure they are. If they really were, I don't think you'd have been raging over my last few posts the way you were. Like I said though, you and the rest of the proletariat make great contributions to this world and society could not function without your kind. I'm just gonna have a way better life than you is all I'm saying.
Don't flatter yourself, kid. The likes of you aren't enough to get me raging. You're small-time troll, nothing more. But there are enough premed losers and I know enough family friend douchebags growing up in the world to make me consider the possibility that you don't even qualify as a troll of any sort.

Again, if you're smart, you'd go study like a good little boy. If not, then I'd say I've made a pretty solid bet.
 
This thread is still going? You sheep can't see that it's an Arson-Thread? He lit the thing and rode off into the sunset lol 😀
 
Also, you are 100% aware that you'll be on home call a lot, answering patient's messages at home, doing lots of charts, etc. So it's not just 2-3 days in the office and that's that. Plus, all the reading to do. So, there is time for gaming, taking care of your FAMILY, hanging out with all your friends(I didn't see you say anything about that.....since that'll take up a huge amount of time), etc.
Um, no... not really. For a few specialties sure, but not most of them. Often times 2-3 days of work will mean exactly that... 2-3 days of work. When I'm on the clock I work. When I'm off the clock I do whatever I want to since I'm not at work. That's the way it is. I question how many physicians you know in real life if you seriously believe all doctors take their work home with them.
 
Where are your going out time, time with friends, doing errands, grocery shopping, family time, etc. It's not like you'll spend ALL your hours with video games and sports and food lmao

Dude, you can play video games after sports. Don't be a weak widdle baby! And football is only in the fall on Sundays. Besides, not all the games are worth watching.

Would you want to waste 3 hours watching the Jaguars go against the Bills? It's like watching the Astros vs. Cubs 😛
You're seriously reaching now. I don't need to list every little detail of my planned off days, but sure, errands and small chores are included.

And sorry to say, but all-day football marathons is a common pastime for Americans. It's not about whether the games are good. It's the tradition behind it. If I want to watch football all day on Sunday, that makes me no different than millions of sports-loving Americans out there. Too bad! There are also other reasons to watch boring games (betting lines, fantasy football, etc). So no, I can't really play video games on Sundays, which is why I need an additional 3-4 days off.
 
D:

I'm a normal gamer :O

Rifle might not be able to comprehend...but I log a good amount of gaming hours, work 70-80 hrs a week, AND have an amazing life. More importantly, I save good time for friends and occasional dating. Time management and balance FTW.
Suuuurre you do. Keep telling yourself that, but basic 1st grade arithmetic shows that anyone who works 70-80 hours/week lives a LOL-worthy and pathetic life outside of work.

Assuming a 6-day workweek, you'll put in over 13 hours/day, so let's just say 6 am to 7 pm. So I'd get up around 4:30 am and pretty much spend the entire day at work. By the time I come back the entire day is gone except for a few hours and I'm too tired to do anything but sleep so I have to wake up at the crack of dawn for 5 more days this week. LMAO, what a joke of a life. Thankfully it will only be 3 years during residency, because you couldn't pay me enough to work those laughable slave hours once I'm a practicing physician. I'm glad you enjoy your oh-so-desirable 1.5 hours of free time every day, but I need way more than that.
 
But if you don't work hard, you'll get a LOW paying speciality...
You know medicine is a great field when 160-170K is considered low. You think I care about a "low" six figure salary when it comes with the benefit of boatloads of free time? Last I checked, my engineer friends who don't even make 100K are doing quite alright. So supporting myself with an even higher salary should be a problem why exactly?

It's quite amusing how riled up you and others in this thread are for discovering that a future doctor actually wants to exercise his constitutional and inalienable right as a free man to live a life of his choosing and to have spare time to pursue his hobbies. Too bad it isn't a crime to want a life. I can do whatever I want.
 
Lol....rifle is so silly 🙂

There is MUCH more than 1.5 hours of free time. I also don't need all day to play video games, or all day to watch sports. Also, you will be taking your work to home for a ton of specialities. And you are already 100% aware of all the reading you'll do at home!

Especially if you pick the "less competitive" specialities...they are all fields where you WILL be taking home calls. That's why you have to work SUPER hard to be able to pick the ones that give you more time. Name some fields you want to go into 😀

You can live an amazing life with 70 hours of work. For most people, staying in their house playing games and watching sports without interacting with real life people isn't what most 20s and 30s people do. They do some hobbies, mixing it with socializing, and other stuff.

And you never mentioned ALL the time spent with friends, your wife and kids. You only mention solo activities. And its like...dude 3-4 days? It seems gaming has some deep loved interest in you to want that much time! A lot of people in medicine who play video games can do that daily. An hour or two satisfied most balanced, social people.
 
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Lol....rifle is so silly 🙂

There is MUCH more than 1.5 hours of free time. I also don't need all day to play video games, or all day to watch sports. Also, you will be taking your work to home for a ton of specialities. And you are already 100% aware of all the reading you'll do at home!

Especially if you pick the "less competitive" specialities...they are all fields where you WILL be taking home calls. That's why you have to work SUPER hard to be able to pick the ones that give you more time. Name some fields you want to go into 😀

You can live an amazing life with 70 hours of work. For most people, staying in their house playing games and watching sports without interacting with real life people isn't what most 20s and 30s people do. They do some hobbies, mixing it with socializing, and other stuff.

And you never mentioned ALL the time spent with friends, your wife and kids. You only mention solo activities. And its like...dude 3-4 days? It seems gaming has some deep loved interest in you to want that much time! A lot of people in medicine who play video games can do that daily. An hour or two satisfied most balanced, social people.
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Oh man, you are too funny. Thanks for providing the comic relief, because I sure enjoyed it.

1 measly hour of video games is satisfying? For you maybe, but any permanent lifestyle that allowed me to only play 1-2 hours of video games is a pitiful lifestyle and one that I will have no part of. 1 hour, this guy says! I'm trying hard to refrain from spitting my drink out because this is too funny.

Ok pal, this clearly isn't going anywhere so we'll just have to agree to disagree on how people should live their lives. I have my own preferences and you have yours. Mine involve being able to get a proper amount of sleep and to have sufficient time to pursue my favorite hobbies in life, you know... things I actually like doing. 10 hours of video games per day is much more enjoyable than a useless 1-2 hours that are up before I can even blink. You enjoy having limited free time because you love your work that much, which is fine too if that's what you want. Do what makes you happy.

Peace, homie. I'm out. :horns:
 
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Oh man, you are too funny. Thanks for providing the comic relief, because I sure enjoyed it.

1 measly hour of video games is satisfying? For you maybe, but any permanent lifestyle that allowed me to only play 1-2 hours of video games is a pitiful lifestyle and one that I will have no part of. 1 hour, this guy says! I'm trying hard to refrain from spitting my drink out because this is too funny.

Ok pal, this clearly isn't going anywhere so we'll just have to agree to disagree on how people should live their lives. I have my own preferences and you have yours. Mine involve being able to get a proper amount of sleep and to have sufficient time to pursue my favorite hobbies in life, you know... things I actually like doing. 10 hours of video games per day is much more enjoyable than a useless 1-2 hours that are up before I can even blink. You enjoy having limited free time because you love your work that much, which is fine too if that's what you want. Do what makes you happy.

Peace, homie. I'm out. :horns:

Please let us know how your future cycle goes.
 
Spoken like a true basement dweller....the only people that complain that 2 hours of videogames a day are useless. 😛

But, rifle will find time to manage his desire for games with his desire for a wife, 3 kids, and plenty of friends too so it'll be a happy ending 😀
 
To be honest, there is a part of me that can completely relate to the OP. Except, instead of gaming substitute skiing.

Working 60hrs/wk on 5-6 days a week, including winter will essentially destroy my ability to spend a day or two on the slopes every week during the winter, and limit time that I'd like to spend windsurfing, hiking, rock climbing, mountain biking etc during the warmer seasons. Thus, I can sort of relate to OP wanting to work less than the usual 5days/wk in order to have more daytime for other things in life. The math also makes sense since with MD salaries being where they are, a "part-time" gig would still equate to 100k+.

But then the gunner part of me is all for working a ton and going into academic medicine and hoping to accomplish even more than just patient care through research/teaching.


I have had multiple jobs and don't game though so I'm a little different from OP though.
 
To be honest, there is a part of me that can completely relate to the OP. Except, instead of gaming substitute skiing.

Working 60hrs/wk on 5-6 days a week, including winter will essentially destroy my ability to spend a day or two on the slopes every week during the winter, and limit time that I'd like to spend windsurfing, hiking, rock climbing, mountain biking etc during the warmer seasons. Thus, I can sort of relate to OP wanting to work less than the usual 5days/wk in order to have more daytime for other things in life. The math also makes sense since with MD salaries being where they are, a "part-time" gig would still equate to 100k+.

But then the gunner part of me is all for working a ton and going into academic medicine and hoping to accomplish even more than just patient care through research/teaching.


I have had multiple jobs and don't game though so I'm a little different from OP though.

Know a surgeon who went skiing 3 out of 4 weekends (he was on call 1 weekend a month). You'll get your day or two.
 
Does it matter if the job is not related to health?
 
Sure they are, scrapper. Sure they are. If they really were, I don't think you'd have been raging over my last few posts the way you were. Like I said though, you and the rest of the proletariat make great contributions to this world and society could not function without your kind. I'm just gonna have a way better life than you is all I'm saying.
Aww did he leave? This guy is too funny, I am seriously dying here. No offense to you @moop, but this guy has you beat at name-calling. You and the rest of the proletariat, that's classic. Make fun of me next!
This guy is just pulling your leg moop, don't feed him. You have to admit though, OP was very subtle. It was really hard to tell in the beginning if he was being serious, but then the discussion turned from strange to hilarious.
 
Aww did he leave? This guy is too funny, I am seriously dying here. No offense to you @moop, but this guy has you beat at name-calling. You and the rest of the proletariat, that's classic. Make fun of me next!
This guy is just pulling your leg moop, don't feed him. You have to admit though, OP was very subtle. It was really hard to tell in the beginning if he was being serious, but then the discussion turned from strange to hilarious.
As an ex-philosophy concentrator I honestly did not find the proletariat piece to be funny because technically he wasn't even using it in the right context. Writing countless political philosophy papers makes one see things differently I guess lol. But I can see how it may be construed as very witty.

Honestly though I'd pin him at 90% troll. I've met so many rich kid cocky douchebags like him growing up that it's not even funny. I was forced to play a smiley face because they were the kids of my parents' friends. Granted I have a fair share of buddies from the same background I hang out with (even in college via eating clubs) who aren't stuck up like another poster pointed out, but the fact remains that a lot of us are indeed dinguses and look down upon poor people. You wouldn't believe what people in finance regularly say about the lower- and middle-class ranks; it's disgusting. A big part of why I pursued ORF is because I wanted a closer look into these people's mindsets.

Well, I've been there, so I gladly take the 10% risk that this guy is for real and look like a noob SDN user falling for dupes because people like this exist and it's disgusting.
 
Edit: nvm aforementioned poster has since edited the comment out. Oh c'mon man that was a pretty good defense of the "bourgeoisie" lol, to continue the flagrant misuse of fancy terms.
 
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