Have anyone done their prerequisites at a community college while enrolling in a university because they had a major other than science? Or finish their degree, then take prerequisites classes at community college?
Have anyone done their prerequisites at a community college while enrolling in a university because they had a major other than science? Or finish their degree, then take prerequisites classes at community college?
by who? half a dozen schools in the entire country?Regardless of the major you have you can take the pre-reqs at the 4 year, which is recommended.
You're taking it at a CC because it's easier to get an A. You know that, and so do the Adcoms.
It shows weakness and diminishes the legitimacy of your application. If you can help it, take it at a 4 year.
Have anyone done their prerequisites at a community college while enrolling in a university because they had a major other than science? Or finish their degree, then take prerequisites classes at community college?
community college? med schools love students who take the easy way out and do the bare minimum.
Would this vary by institution? Wouldn't the adcoms know that cc courses are more affordable and so students may be inclined to pursue that option?
don't let pennstate4life fool you into believing he's as ******ed and ignorant as his posts (all of them so far from what i can tell) might suggest.
If you're concerned about how schools receive prereqs done at CC's, reference their websites or call their admissions office.
for example: my state school, the university of washington, stated on their website that if you took prereqs at the CC they would prefer you also take prereqs at the 4-year so they can compare grades.
So you are saying I am wrong for bringing up the fact that med schools look down upon students who take the easy way out? My suggestion is don't even think about community college because it is frowned upon in most schools.
don't let pennstate4life fool you into believing he's as ******ed and ignorant as his posts (all of them so far from what i can tell) might suggest.
If you're concerned about how schools receive prereqs done at CC's, reference their websites or call their admissions office.
for example: my state school, the university of washington, stated on their website that if you took prereqs at the CC they would prefer you also take prereqs at the 4-year so they can compare grades.
you can't back a single assertion in this ignorant remark with a single source
so give it up.
and retake that logic class at penn state... lulz u think you're so smart![]()
So you're giving him **** for stating that.. when in your previous post, UDub states that they would want the pre-reqs taken at a four year so they can compare grades.. wonder why that is? 🙄
I'm pretty sure a good list of schools - maybe I can find it with some research - would prefer you take the courses at a 4-year, or if you do take them at CC, they'd like you to retake them at a 4-year, just like the very college you go to.
OP, just take the pre-reqs at your 4 year. Make it a hell of a lot easier on yourself.
Are we done with posts like this yet?
you can't back a single assertion in this ignorant remark with a single source
so give it up.
and retake that logic class at penn state... lulz u think you're so smart![]()
I really feel chemistry between us. I hope you are a lady because we will make a good couple.
sorry i don't date premeds... call me when you get accepted though and we'll see 😉
I'm not a premed. I just like to give ******ed advice to strangers. You can also find me on pre-law, pre-dental, pre-podiatry, pre-FBI forums. Does it turn you on that I'm not a premed?
um...
that explains why your advice is so prescient and helpful
you know everything about applying to medical, dental, and law school!!
👍
I'm not a premed. I just like to give unsolicited advice to strangers. You can also find me on pre-law, pre-dental, pre-podiatry, pre-FBI forums. Does it turn you on that I'm not a premed?
aye, looking at your posts i seemed to have been tricked into feeding a troll... depressing.
on the up-side: i'm in med school and you're a loser!
great post brothaI went to a 4 year university as a non-science major. During the end of my 3rd year, I started taking some pre-med courses (bio, some g-chem). After I graduated, I went to a local CC where I took the remaining pre-med courses (g-chem, o-chem, physics, calc). Going to a CC had its advantages and disadvantages for me. Biggest advantages were small class size (~30 people, vs. 300 people lecture halls at my university), more face time with the professors, getting awesome LORs, and insanely low cost. The biggest disadvantage I perceived, at the time, was the negative stigma that might come with it (just read through this thread for people's opinions). I don't know what was said about my med school application behind closed doors, but I can tell you that during interviews, NONE of my interviewers ever brought up my having attended a CC.
If you are going to take pre-med courses at a CC, I'd recommend that you at least take some of the courses at a 4-year. Doing well in your science classes at BOTH the 4 year and CC, in addition to a solid MCAT, should leave little doubt in adcom's minds about your academic ability.
Just wanted to throw one last thing out there - a lot of CC's do have negative reputations (too easy, not much harder than high school, etc). This is why if you choose to attend a CC, you should look for one with high transfer rates into good schools, accredited, in a good school district, etc. At the CC I attended, most of the pre-med courses I took did not grade on a curve, were often taught by professors from the same 4 year univ I attended, and were NOT known for being the "easy route." There's no need to throw all CC's under the bus.
I went to a 4 year university as a non-science major. During the end of my 3rd year, I started taking some pre-med courses (bio, some g-chem). After I graduated, I went to a local CC where I took the remaining pre-med courses (g-chem, o-chem, physics, calc). Going to a CC had its advantages and disadvantages for me. Biggest advantages were small class size (~30 people, vs. 300 people lecture halls at my university), more face time with the professors, getting awesome LORs, and insanely low cost. The biggest disadvantage I perceived, at the time, was the negative stigma that might come with it (just read through this thread for people's opinions). I don't know what was said about my med school application behind closed doors, but I can tell you that during interviews, NONE of my interviewers ever brought up my having attended a CC.
If you are going to take pre-med courses at a CC, I'd recommend that you at least take some of the courses at a 4-year. Doing well in your science classes at BOTH the 4 year and CC, in addition to a solid MCAT, should leave little doubt in adcom's minds about your academic ability.
Just wanted to throw one last thing out there - a lot of CC's do have negative reputations (too easy, not much harder than high school, etc). This is why if you choose to attend a CC, you should look for one with high transfer rates into good schools, accredited, in a good school district, etc. At the CC I attended, most of the pre-med courses I took did not grade on a curve, were often taught by professors from the same 4 year univ I attended, and were NOT known for being the "easy route." There's no need to throw all CC's under the bus.
If and only if your institution doesn't offer the courses than you have a good reason to take them at CC.
I spoke with several different ADCOM's on this matter. Take this answer for what its worth:
I will specifically name two schools. Michigan and Michigan State University (one MD vs one DO). I was told by both, in pretty general statements that it doesn't matter where your first 2 years were taken, AS LONG AS your grades do not fluctuate when you make the jump to a 4 year university. If we see that you jump to a 4 year and your grades fumble we know that you cannot handle the rigors of medical school, and therefore will judge your application accordingly.
I can tell you now from whatever some of you have experienced, or those who have only been at a 4 year university and are saying that a CC is the easy way out, that your not correct. I spent 2 years at a local CC then transferred to EMU, I will tell you that some of the courses at EMU feel easier than at the CC. My A&P class was one of the hardest classes I have ever taken, it was taught by the the professor that instructs Gross A&P at UofM medical school.
If you have not been there please do not act like you know it will reflect bad upon your application.
Students looking for the answer to the question about CC vs Unv. Easiest way to get the answers you want, call your medical schools of interest and ask the ADCOMs directly.
you are correct, CC usually only offers an associates. If you plan on a bachelors then yyou should make sure your classes will transfer to your 4 year school, thus crossing those classes off the list and u will start at the university as a junior.The thing I would like to know - and I hope this does not make me sound ignorant on my part - don't normal Bachelor's Degrees take four years to complete? I know at least for mine it does, just looking over the courseload itself and what I have to complete before graduation. If this is so, why would you even want to take your pre-reqs at a community college first when you still have to complete your major's requirements as well? And if you do go to CC first and want to start a major there, wouldn't you have to finish it there?
I know those questions sound a bit silly, but I am only aware of my own situation, and that was I needed my grades up from high school, so I went to CC for a year to do that, did the gen. eds and got my GPA up to a 3.5, and transferred over to a 4 year where I picked a major, and here I am doing that as well as the pre-reqs for medical school. I never thought that taking pre-reqs at a community college made sense, especially since I need to have a BA in something for medical school, and the CC I went to only offered Associate degrees.
In any case, the OP is not asking if he should take his pre-reqs before enrolling/transferring to a four year. He's already enrolled in a four year, has a non-science major, and is asking if he can take his pre-reqs at a CC. Being that he is a non-science major, I'm guessing that he is on his own assumption that CC courses are easier, but like you posted, they are not. I know this firsthand as well. In the OPs situation, I find it kind of pointless to do what he wants to do. I just don't see it as logical, IMO.
Have anyone done their prerequisites at a community college while enrolling in a university because they had a major other than science? Or finish their degree, then take prerequisites classes at community college?
This is not true. Why would ADCOMs tell you that its ok, just to have their secondaries tell you its a big no no. That doesn't make any sense. I have talked with over a dozen schools. As long as you prove yourself with upper level science classes at a 4 year university and you handle them just fine, your CC credits will be more than enough to get you into med school.I am sorry that you guys may be finding out about this after the fact, BUT, community college premed prereqs are a big NO NO. Someone in another forum pointed out that some secondary applications sent by the schools make a point of stating that the students should NOT take those courses at community colleges nor online. I have actually seen it on some of my secondaries as well.
For those who are still in the process of completing the requirements, just make sure you take them at an accredited 4 year university.
prwriter and familyaerospace, I'm in the same boat.
I have a BS and MS and I plan to take my prereqs at the local CC because it's free (I'm an adjunct instructor there and get a tuition waiver). I'd be nuts not to take advantage of that, and when I called the medical school I want to attend, they said community college courses are fine.
I have kids to feed and that's that way it is.
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My opinions on this issue are known (check my blog). I am wondering, and certainly don't know, but does anyone think that there could be a potential ethical concern from adcoms regarding the above, aka taking the pre-reqs where you teach? Seems like there could be, possibly.
Yes, I could see a conflict if it was in a department I work in, but I don't work in the sciences dept and don't know any of the instructors there.
Plus, many of the prereqs are classes I took 20+ years ago when I got my BS, so it's not like I haven't passed them once before.
If the school chooses to see a conflict, I'll just have to deal with it as it arises.
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This is not true. Why would ADCOMs tell you that its ok, just to have their secondaries tell you its a big no no. That doesn't make any sense. I have talked with over a dozen schools. As long as you prove yourself with upper level science classes at a 4 year university and you handle them just fine, your CC credits will be more than enough to get you into med school.
So your telling me if you take 2 years at a CC and 2 years at a University and score a 35 on your MCAT, they are gonna say "No way, you took some CC classes, we cant let you in here, you took the easy way out, your a *******, good luck elsewhere!" I highly doubt it.
I think a solid score on the MCAT would put any question to rest about you being handed grades you didn't earn.
Not quiet. Have you checked this year's U Chicago thread ? There is plenty of students who have been rejected outright after submitting the secondary, with MCATs of 38, 39 and even a 40 and solid GPAs. The only thing that they may have in common is that their undergrad colleges are either state colleges or third tier universities. I don't know what Chicago is looking for, but a great MCAT and GPA is not cutting it for some.