Done with my NBDE 1 yesterday

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Hi,
It was tiring and nerve wrecking.I am writing this for the benefit of those who are still to give there exams and I know how it feels when you are on the other side.I got lots of help from SDN and its members so I wanted to contribute something now.
Coming to the exam,my personal opinion is that stop worrying about the difficulty level being higher in 2010.this was my second attempt,i had taken the first one in dec 2009.I think the standard of the exam was the same.They check you THOROUGHLY.I felt better coz i think my preparation was better than last time.approx 300 questons plus minus 10 ,you can answer if you have studied well,the rest 100 u have to apply your knowledge and come to the best conclusion.If you get 30% of those correct u can get a decent score.I am just keeping my fingers crossed for the next 3 weeks to knw how i did.
There were a lot of questions on tmj ,read everthing you can lay your hands on about tmj.there were quite a few repeats verbatim,i dint even have to read the options to know the answer.there were few questions which looked familiar but they had changed something in it to make it tricky.testlets i think i got 7-8 of them,i dont remember exactly,out of these 2 were difficult,too many diseases and too may medications in one person.
sleep very well the night before coz its gonna be a lonnnnng day.know your matter well,reading superficially many times won't help until you know the things in and out.there were topics which i had read well and didnt get a single question out of it,there were others which were not discussed in detail in the sources i used and i got q out of those.but that is what exam is all about.i just wanna say one thing again that be confident ,use the standard sources like decks,asda papers and first aid.that is enough but know your matter in depth,you will be fine.
pls dont PM me for discussing anything which is unethical,for all other queries you might have i''ll be happy to answer here.
now i go back to my two and a half year old daughter who has become sick of seeing mumma studying all the time.
3 weeks of prayer and anticipation.oh my God.
ok take care
all the best
 
i have exam day after tomorrow .. wish me luck.. my position is now i am sooo saturated tht i dont know what to read and what not.. i was thinking of atleast one time fast revision of decks and my notes but i think i wont be havign sufecient time...

hoping best for my preparation .. i dont knwo where i will stand in the exam ....

wish me good luck guys..
 
i have exam day after tomorrow .. wish me luck.. my position is now i am sooo saturated tht i dont know what to read and what not.. i was thinking of atleast one time fast revision of decks and my notes but i think i wont be havign sufecient time...

hoping best for my preparation .. i dont knwo where i will stand in the exam ....

wish me good luck guys..

good luck for ur exam.....ur gonna rock it....👍
 
i have exam day after tomorrow .. wish me luck.. my position is now i am sooo saturated tht i dont know what to read and what not.. i was thinking of atleast one time fast revision of decks and my notes but i think i wont be havign sufecient time...

hoping best for my preparation .. i dont knwo where i will stand in the exam ....

wish me good luck guys..



good luck dontist,
sleep early,go with a fresh mind for the exam and take some juice etc with you for the 1 hr break.
good luck once again.
 
thanks a lot .. i thought we can go out during our break time.. as anyways books and all are not allowed right???
 
Hi donist, good luck for your exam, just believe in yourself, you have done good preparation.
 
thanks teethie.. 🙂 u guys are really helpful and motivating me... i love u all my friends.. 🙂
 
Good Luck Dontist ,,u can do it dude !!
All Best !pls let us know how it went ,,,we all will be waiting...
gud luck..ull rock 1
 
i have exam day after tomorrow .. wish me luck.. my position is now i am sooo saturated tht i dont know what to read and what not.. i was thinking of atleast one time fast revision of decks and my notes but i think i wont be havign sufecient time...

hoping best for my preparation .. i dont knwo where i will stand in the exam ....

wish me good luck guys..

Good luck ...u will do absolutely fine!!👍
 
well all i can say is GOD BLESS US!! 🙂 these last days are hectic and saturating....
 
Hi Anekha,

u don't have to do pharmac in detail. If u have first aid NBDE or usmle , it is very very nice short and sweet. If u do that it's enough. Just the basic mode of action and where does it act. Also the side effects but just brief. For pathology go through all the disease thoroughly. Know the basic pathology behind each disease. They ask everything basic. For TMJ i read OKESON chapter 1 very very useful and if possible supplement as much as u can. But do the first chapter of okeson especially TMJ VERY THOROUGHLY.

Good luck.👍
i have okeson edition 98.is it gud to do chp 1-6 from this edition or i require latest edition?
 
i have exam day after tomorrow .. wish me luck.. my position is now i am sooo saturated tht i dont know what to read and what not.. i was thinking of atleast one time fast revision of decks and my notes but i think i wont be havign sufecient time...

hoping best for my preparation .. i dont knwo where i will stand in the exam ....

wish me good luck guys..

All the very very best!!May you succeed beyond your wildest dreams!
 
well all i can say is GOD BLESS US!! 🙂 these last days are hectic and saturating....
Yep it is but think positive and days after the exam are so releiveing atleast the 1 week without worrying abt score.
Good luck and stay positivie.
 
u r correct bro... i am just happy that this will get over.. at the same time worried for the exam.. so kinda mixed feelling.. just hoping that all things will go well.. 🙂

thanks for the support.
 
hey Wadent dont worry about reading tons of books...i ll say read thorough wot ever u read.....make sure u understand.....i read Kaplan book,decks and 10 yrs and scored 90.....there will always be 25-30 questions judging ur knowledge.....for the rest above source is sufficient...repetition is the key.






Hey guys !
Just wana add one thing here to all of u and to anybody who will appear for nbde 1 that:
Nbde first aid,dental decks, + asda papers are NOT enough to ace ur exam!!! if u study these 3 sources its not gona take u more than 80% on ur fial score !!!!
U need aditional source ,example : Kplan book etc....
Thanks

Some of u might guess why wdent is sayin this !!! the reason is becz ive been told somthin and how they r askin in the exam is in differnt way !!! not tryin to scare anybody its just be damm 10000% sure before doin this exam !!
(anniestar ur advices r true to others and god bless u ... ,,but its just a matter i dont wana see brothers and sister misguided by other people here on sdn ! )
 
thanks!!
just 25-30 questions make u thinjk out of the box!!! well ill go wit ur advice here..its rtrue the key is revise and revise !! thanks doc 17..
Would like to ask u and those who gave their exam : did u guys felt that u have enough time durirng exam ???? or not ????? pls need honest answer!!! also is it really importanat to read the tutorial first before u begin ur exam !!! or its gona be taking from ur time during exam !!! need advice here ...

DONTIST HOW DID UR EXAM GOES BUDDY???? WE R ALL WAITIN PLSSSSSS TELL US HOW WAS IT?? ANY REPEATS? LEVEL OF DIFICULTY???? WHAT DO U THINK ...
ME AND ALL OTHERS HERE WANA KNOW ....


LOOKIN TO HEAR FROMU ALL .... THANKSSSSSSSS
 
thanks!!
just 25-30 questions make u thinjk out of the box!!! well ill go wit ur advice here..its rtrue the key is revise and revise !! thanks doc 17..
Would like to ask u and those who gave their exam : did u guys felt that u have enough time durirng exam ???? or not ????? pls need honest answer!!! also is it really importanat to read the tutorial first before u begin ur exam !!! or its gona be taking from ur time during exam !!! need advice here ...

DONTIST HOW DID UR EXAM GOES BUDDY???? WE R ALL WAITIN PLSSSSSS TELL US HOW WAS IT?? ANY REPEATS? LEVEL OF DIFICULTY???? WHAT DO U THINK ...
ME AND ALL OTHERS HERE WANA KNOW ....


LOOKIN TO HEAR FROMU ALL .... THANKSSSSSSSS

hey wdent..when i gave the exam i had more than enough time..i took 3 5 mins breaks apart from the 1 hr brk and yet finished the exam well before time..as far as tutorial is concerned its not compulsory to read the thing for 15 mins u could jus click next next and start with your exam...but i would suggest you to use those 15 mins to make occlusal diagrams, note down tooth numbers etc...it makes it easier when the question comes...
 
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Originally Posted by wdent
Hey guys !
Just wana add one thing here to all of u and to anybody who will appear for nbde 1 that:
Nbde first aid,dental decks, + asda papers are NOT enough to ace ur exam!!! if u study these 3 sources its not gona take u more than 80% on ur fial score !!!!
U need aditional source ,example : Kplan book etc....
Thanks

Some of u might guess why wdent is sayin this !!! the reason is becz ive been told somthin and how they r askin in the exam is in differnt way !!! not tryin to scare anybody its just be damm 10000% sure before doin this exam !!
(anniestar ur advices r true to others and god bless u ... ,,but its just a matter i dont wana see brothers and sister misguided by other people here on sdn ! )
 
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Hey appu09 and dr.cool77 U guys are awsome !!! :> thanks for ur advice !!! i really appreciate that ..
What happned wit me b4 is dat i wrote my exam last yeat ,just did decks and nbde 1st aid and the latest asda papers... Durin the exam didnt have enough time,seriously the last 40-50 question in the second half i was markin the choices as if iam doin LOYERRY i swear to god !! well i ended up passing the exam and now ill appear again in septmber ,, was wondering why,how i didnt have enough time,,the thing is that i read the whole tutorial then started with the exam,,readin case history took lot of time + solvin the dent.anatomy questions took some time too...
But i guess we all learn frm our mistakes and thanks for the advice guys its so wonderful always to have nice sdn frnds who advice and r there 4 u ..
Note that i graduated in 2001 ,iam sudyin after 10yrs !! i know its kinda tough ,,but its not impossible,,wth determination we can achive everythin .. and now i have kaplan book never ever had that book b4,,i see that its great read and important..but it takes way much time,,but its ok i guess iam not in a hurry..

Arright then thanks (shukriat) guys god bless u all ,,u guys here r wonderful..🙂

 
wdent, you had an experience now of writing the exam, and it is very rare some students get high 90s in their first attempt and some do not. but we have to still keep studying until we get our desired score from the resources that we find are the best and selecting resources varies from each person to person.

Hey appu09 and dr.cool77 U guys are awsome !!! :> thanks for ur advice !!! i really appreciate that ..
What happned wit me b4 is dat i wrote my exam last yeat ,just did decks and nbde 1st aid and the latest asda papers... Durin the exam didnt have enough time,seriously the last 40-50 question in the second half i was markin the choices as if iam doin LOYERRY i swear to god !! well i ended up passing the exam and now ill appear again in septmber ,, was wondering why,how i didnt have enough time,,the thing is that i read the whole tutorial then started with the exam,,readin case history took lot of time + solvin the dent.anatomy questions took some time too...
But i guess we all learn frm our mistakes and thanks for the advice guys its so wonderful always to have nice sdn frnds who advice and r there 4 u ..
Note that i graduated in 2001 ,iam sudyin after 10yrs !! i know its kinda tough ,,but its not impossible,,wth determination we can achive everythin .. and now i have kaplan book never ever had that book b4,,i see that its great read and important..but it takes way much time,,but its ok i guess iam not in a hurry..

Arright then thanks (shukriat) guys god bless u all ,,u guys here r wonderful..🙂
 
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Hey appu09 and dr.cool77 U guys are awsome !!! :> thanks for ur advice !!! i really appreciate that ..
What happned wit me b4 is dat i wrote my exam last yeat ,just did decks and nbde 1st aid and the latest asda papers... Durin the exam didnt have enough time,seriously the last 40-50 question in the second half i was markin the choices as if iam doin LOYERRY i swear to god !! well i ended up passing the exam and now ill appear again in septmber ,, was wondering why,how i didnt have enough time,,the thing is that i read the whole tutorial then started with the exam,,readin case history took lot of time + solvin the dent.anatomy questions took some time too...
But i guess we all learn frm our mistakes and thanks for the advice guys its so wonderful always to have nice sdn frnds who advice and r there 4 u ..
Note that i graduated in 2001 ,iam sudyin after 10yrs !! i know its kinda tough ,,but its not impossible,,wth determination we can achive everythin .. and now i have kaplan book never ever had that book b4,,i see that its great read and important..but it takes way much time,,but its ok i guess iam not in a hurry..

Arright then thanks (shukriat) guys god bless u all ,,u guys here r wonderful..🙂
 
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hey Wadent.....i also wrote my exxam last yr and scored just 80.....i think i was not prepared enough....as i read for 3 months and didnt do decks and all asda papers....off course i did Kaplan and first Aid....
this time i was more focused....did all 10yrs twice,kaplan,Decks......off course it is gud to check few topics from here and there and do google some topics.....biochem.....read Proteins or first chap from lippincott....i liked Physio from decks....these are must...rest u can add as reference .....give exam when u think u r ready.....
i know u r really working hard.....gud luck and do the best....hard work pays back👍




Hey appu09 and dr.cool77 U guys are awsome !!! :> thanks for ur advice !!! i really appreciate that ..
What happned wit me b4 is dat i wrote my exam last yeat ,just did decks and nbde 1st aid and the latest asda papers... Durin the exam didnt have enough time,seriously the last 40-50 question in the second half i was markin the choices as if iam doin LOYERRY i swear to god !! well i ended up passing the exam and now ill appear again in septmber ,, was wondering why,how i didnt have enough time,,the thing is that i read the whole tutorial then started with the exam,,readin case history took lot of time + solvin the dent.anatomy questions took some time too...
But i guess we all learn frm our mistakes and thanks for the advice guys its so wonderful always to have nice sdn frnds who advice and r there 4 u ..
Note that i graduated in 2001 ,iam sudyin after 10yrs !! i know its kinda tough ,,but its not impossible,,wth determination we can achive everythin .. and now i have kaplan book never ever had that book b4,,i see that its great read and important..but it takes way much time,,but its ok i guess iam not in a hurry..

Arright then thanks (shukriat) guys god bless u all ,,u guys here r wonderful..🙂
 
Another thing i wanted to add .....this time i had more thn enough time....i could finish first part in 2 hrs and 2nd in 2:30hrs....case histories were bit tough.....last time i was struggling with time and questions.
My overall experience is i was better prepared this time.
Be optimistic....Exam is difficult but not impossible.....Gud luck




Hey appu09 and dr.cool77 U guys are awsome !!! :> thanks for ur advice !!! i really appreciate that ..
What happned wit me b4 is dat i wrote my exam last yeat ,just did decks and nbde 1st aid and the latest asda papers... Durin the exam didnt have enough time,seriously the last 40-50 question in the second half i was markin the choices as if iam doin LOYERRY i swear to god !! well i ended up passing the exam and now ill appear again in septmber ,, was wondering why,how i didnt have enough time,,the thing is that i read the whole tutorial then started with the exam,,readin case history took lot of time + solvin the dent.anatomy questions took some time too...
But i guess we all learn frm our mistakes and thanks for the advice guys its so wonderful always to have nice sdn frnds who advice and r there 4 u ..
Note that i graduated in 2001 ,iam sudyin after 10yrs !! i know its kinda tough ,,but its not impossible,,wth determination we can achive everythin .. and now i have kaplan book never ever had that book b4,,i see that its great read and important..but it takes way much time,,but its ok i guess iam not in a hurry..

Arright then thanks (shukriat) guys god bless u all ,,u guys here r wonderful..🙂
 
thanks doc17..
I really appreciate that ,,..ill do my best..its a one shot only..and ill do better now..
thanks!
all best to to u guys !
 
hi guys.. i am done with the exam..

well regarding the materials which i have referred is

1. decks
2. kaplan notes for NBDE
3. micro made ridiculously easy
4. basic text books
5. wikipedia 🙂
6. embryology and histology as per ur preferance. i used my own notes which i made during my bachelor.

regarding about the EXAM.. well obviously i felt more of clinical .. but i would not consider it just vaguely.. i felt it more clinically oriented because of clinical vignetts. and frankly they are suppose to be clinically oriented. 🙂 so nothing to worry. regarding about the standard of exam? well it was TOUGH... but not soo tough as much... but indeed way tougher than ASDA papers. overall i would say its all about a sound knowledge rather than just cramming the things. it wont lead u to anything. be sure to understand the concepts of all the subjects thoroly. cramming will be fine but it will be more of confusing on later part if u just mugged up without understanding the key points. one advise is be sure u practice enough of ur clinical vignetts. i dont know the source as though basically i did those only from old and new decks and from some USMLE . but i think usmle one's are more detailed and we dont need much of those kind of things. so if u guys have access to couple them from pilot papers or anywhere it will be good. it will help u a lot.

hope i do good in results. fingers crossed. praying to god that everything goes well... 🙂

take care guys and study hard...
 
best of luck for your result dontist.i just want to ask u like which asda paper would you consider closest to real exam? just curious to know the level of exam
 
hey anniestar,

best of luck for ur results...

i've got my exam in a week...n my comp crashed...so lost my ASDA papers...do u have any??? is there any way u can help me??

thx
 
hey anniestar,

best of luck for ur results...

i've got my exam in a week...n my comp crashed...so lost my ASDA papers...do u have any??? is there any way u can help me??

thx


hi,
i am still waiting for my result,maybe monday it will be in my mailbox.pm me ur email id.i'll see if i can do smthing though i think the folder is too big to go in mail.lets see.
 
hey anniestar,

best of luck for ur results...

i've got my exam in a week...n my comp crashed...so lost my ASDA papers...do u have any??? is there any way u can help me??

thx

I have 2004 pilot ,what is your email, pm me
 
hi,
i am still waiting for my result,maybe monday it will be in my mailbox.pm me ur email id.i'll see if i can do smthing though i think the folder is too big to go in mail.lets see.

Good luck for your results
 
Hi,
It was tiring and nerve wrecking.I am writing this for the benefit of those who are still to give there exams and I know how it feels when you are on the other side.I got lots of help from SDN and its members so I wanted to contribute something now.
Coming to the exam,my personal opinion is that stop worrying about the difficulty level being higher in 2010.this was my second attempt,i had taken the first one in dec 2009.I think the standard of the exam was the same.They check you THOROUGHLY.I felt better coz i think my preparation was better than last time.approx 300 questons plus minus 10 ,you can answer if you have studied well,the rest 100 u have to apply your knowledge and come to the best conclusion.If you get 30% of those correct u can get a decent score.I am just keeping my fingers crossed for the next 3 weeks to knw how i did.
There were a lot of questions on tmj ,read everthing you can lay your hands on about tmj.there were quite a few repeats verbatim,i dint even have to read the options to know the answer.there were few questions which looked familiar but they had changed something in it to make it tricky.testlets i think i got 7-8 of them,i dont remember exactly,out of these 2 were difficult,too many diseases and too may medications in one person.
sleep very well the night before coz its gonna be a lonnnnng day.know your matter well,reading superficially many times won't help until you know the things in and out.there were topics which i had read well and didnt get a single question out of it,there were others which were not discussed in detail in the sources i used and i got q out of those.but that is what exam is all about.i just wanna say one thing again that be confident ,use the standard sources like decks,asda papers and first aid.that is enough but know your matter in depth,you will be fine.
pls dont PM me for discussing anything which is unethical,for all other queries you might have i''ll be happy to answer here.
now i go back to my two and a half year old daughter who has become sick of seeing mumma studying all the time.
3 weeks of prayer and anticipation.oh my God.
ok take care
all the best
hi anniestar!!! thank u sooo much for the advice ..i need ur advice not only for the prep point of view but also coz i'v got 2 kids n noo help ..i would be grateful if u could give advice as to the prep time n sources and also advice as to how do i manage the studies with 2 small kids..i would really appreciate ur help...thank u
 
hi anniestar!!! thank u sooo much for the advice ..i need ur advice not only for the prep point of view but also coz i'v got 2 kids n noo help ..i would be grateful if u could give advice as to the prep time n sources and also advice as to how do i manage the studies with 2 small kids..i would really appreciate ur help...thank u


hi,
I know its damn difficult,let me get my result,as more days are passing i am feeling more scared and unsure.perseverance is the key.the sources are same as i mentioned in my previous posts.revision and understanding the concept are a must.I used to study in the mornings before my daughter got up and then afternoon when she slept for 2 hours and then one hr at night,that used to give me 4-5 hrs.and then i used to try and make her busy with smthing during the day and used to flip through pages.sometimes she used to be cranky and didn't let me touch my books while others she used to play with her dad during weekends and evenings which gave me some time.it was difficlt but somehow i just managed.u will too just keep trying.
all the best.
 
hi,
I know its damn difficult,let me get my result,as more days are passing i am feeling more scared and unsure.perseverance is the key.the sources are same as i mentioned in my previous posts.revision and understanding the concept are a must.I used to study in the mornings before my daughter got up and then afternoon when she slept for 2 hours and then one hr at night,that used to give me 4-5 hrs.and then i used to try and make her busy with smthing during the day and used to flip through pages.sometimes she used to be cranky and didn't let me touch my books while others she used to play with her dad during weekends and evenings which gave me some time.it was difficlt but somehow i just managed.u will too just keep trying.
all the best.
hi there

thank u sooo much i really appreciate it!!uno my problem is i have 2 kids i wake up at 5 n my baby wakes up along with me n by the time the older kid sleeps at nght its sometimes even 11 during the day both the kids keep me busy bcoz of all this frustration n depression is creeping in...hope i can manage somehow.. n dont dont u worrya abt ur results i'm sure u'll do exceedingly well all the best
 
hi there

thank u sooo much i really appreciate it!!uno my problem is i have 2 kids i wake up at 5 n my baby wakes up along with me n by the time the older kid sleeps at nght its sometimes even 11 during the day both the kids keep me busy bcoz of all this frustration n depression is creeping in...hope i can manage somehow.. n dont dont u worrya abt ur results i'm sure u'll do exceedingly well all the best


hi taha,
I can understand how you feel,i think all females who are mothers and want to accomplish somethng in their professional life too go through this phase,sometimes i used to pray i wish i had a neighbour where my daughter could go atleast for 2 hrs but i had none of that kind.
i used to make her sit watching her favourite cartoon and used to sit with my book besides her,then she used to be fine.how old are your kids.see if u can find a day-care or make the elder one responsible for the younger one.After dinner like around 9-10 i just left my daughter with my husband to manage but you know with a family life there can't be a fixed timetable,every day something used to come up and the one thing which i had to sacrifice was my study time but as i said perseverance is the key.dont worry too much about being behind schedule,dosen't matter even if you give ur exam 2-3 months late jjst keep studying and gv when u think u r best prepared.
good luk.🙂
 
hi taha,
I can understand how you feel,i think all females who are mothers and want to accomplish somethng in their professional life too go through this phase,sometimes i used to pray i wish i had a neighbour where my daughter could go atleast for 2 hrs but i had none of that kind.
i used to make her sit watching her favourite cartoon and used to sit with my book besides her,then she used to be fine.how old are your kids.see if u can find a day-care or make the elder one responsible for the younger one.After dinner like around 9-10 i just left my daughter with my husband to manage but you know with a family life there can't be a fixed timetable,every day something used to come up and the one thing which i had to sacrifice was my study time but as i said perseverance is the key.dont worry too much about being behind schedule,dosen't matter even if you give ur exam 2-3 months late jjst keep studying and gv when u think u r best prepared.
good luk.🙂

Truly said annistar and taha,
I will say motherhood being the toughest job in the world. I have given the exam with the same condition. Its really tough to give exam with kid but not immpossible if u are determined to do it!! I also used to study by making watch tv and sitting besides her. Feeling guilty of it too!! But v don't have much options as v are alone here without any help. Try to give ur best, good luck !!
 
hi taha,
I can understand how you feel,i think all females who are mothers and want to accomplish somethng in their professional life too go through this phase,sometimes i used to pray i wish i had a neighbour where my daughter could go atleast for 2 hrs but i had none of that kind.
i used to make her sit watching her favourite cartoon and used to sit with my book besides her,then she used to be fine.how old are your kids.see if u can find a day-care or make the elder one responsible for the younger one.After dinner like around 9-10 i just left my daughter with my husband to manage but you know with a family life there can't be a fixed timetable,every day something used to come up and the one thing which i had to sacrifice was my study time but as i said perseverance is the key.dont worry too much about being behind schedule,dosen't matter even if you give ur exam 2-3 months late jjst keep studying and gv when u think u r best prepared.
good luk.🙂
hi anniestar
thank u sooo much for the inspiration.i really appreciate it trying to follow ur footsteps n studying ...my kids are aged 5 n 1 yr ..I'v collected the kaplan umle lectures n listen to them with the kids or even cooking n try to study doing the nights..prob is i'm confused as to what material to follow as i just said i'm doing the usmle lectures n lecture notes but the ndbe kaplan review book is much more exhaustive n for certain topics like neurophysiology there is a lot...plz can u tell me whats the best source for physiology in fact i would be grateful if u could give a brief outline abt what study materials to follow for all...thank u
 
hey guys ,, i can understand what ur talkin about,,especially if there r kids or young one,,its kinda hard to study..
I wana share somthin with ya'll i have the pbroblem ,,have no kids,but i have a cat it keeps me bussy all the time !!
 
hi,
i got my score.its 89.thank God.much better than previous attempt of 84.i am just a little busy today.will reply u taha soon in detail.
thanks everybody for the wishes.its a big load down my head having a respectable score.
all the best to those preparing.
 
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