Doubts about OMM

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this is an awesome thread people. In addition to the points made above, I would add that AT Still was NOT a scientist. He may have started his movement during the time of phlebotomy, but almost at the exact same time in the 1860's, Louis Pasteur published his work proving the germ theory. If you read AT Still's book - published in the 1910's - he still doesn't acknowledge the germ theory. He claims to believe in them but then states that they can only take hold when there is some sort of somatic disfunction and describes what a worm or fungus would do to already dead tissue. How can a medical school put a photo up of a man who spent 50 years of his life denying a basic, provable, medical fact? It's like someone denying the existence of DNA today....

The AT Still worshiping must stop.

I have not met a DO student who "worships" Still. I suspect most DO students know who he was from the brief introductory lecture, and that's about it. As already pointed out elsewhere, the level of enthusiasm varies greatly from school to school, depending on the OMM chair.

There are always prominent people in every field who are obstinate about something after becoming famous. Extreme examples: Newton spent much of his life in alchemy and biblical studies, and Edison fought against AC power for many years. There is a popular doctor on TV right now who is accused of not knowing the difference between organic and inorganic arsenic.
 
Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm wondering why none of this research has been done. Take a patient who has been under the care of a OMM specialist and is willing to donate his body. Now study the OMM notes and make measurements on the cadaver. Do special staining on the muscles and fascia to discover the differences. Does the right subscapularis have a different percentage of Type IIb muscle than the left? Is the right leg REALLY longer? Have the histology and pathology department go over the body microscopically. Have the anatomy department count the ligament attachments of the shoulder, back, thorax, abdomen... Measure the muscle bulk. Your living notes give you texture, temperature, turgor, supposed assymetry, your after-death study should give you TNF-alpha presence, count of lymph nodules and generating centers.

The DO schools started getting science facult in 1910 - it is now 2011 - that's 1 century. Why hasn't any of this been done yet? What is this - I'll marry you once I'm financially able?

These are GREAT questions you should be asking at your level! Keep up that type of inquisitiveness. Everyone on this thread should check out this article that was originally posted by JessPT on the physical therapy forum.

Let me know what you guys think.
 

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Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm wondering why none of this research has been done. Take a patient who has been under the care of a OMM specialist and is willing to donate his body. Now study the OMM notes and make measurements on the cadaver. Do special staining on the muscles and fascia to discover the differences. Does the right subscapularis have a different percentage of Type IIb muscle than the left? Is the right leg REALLY longer? Have the histology and pathology department go over the body microscopically. Have the anatomy department count the ligament attachments of the shoulder, back, thorax, abdomen... Measure the muscle bulk. Your living notes give you texture, temperature, turgor, supposed assymetry, your after-death study should give you TNF-alpha presence, count of lymph nodules and generating centers.

The DO schools started getting science facult in 1910 - it is now 2011 - that's 1 century. Why hasn't any of this been done yet? What is this - I'll marry you once I'm financially able?

sounds like you've got yourself a project 😎
 
Seriously? Take a joke youngin' and like I said check out the thread in my signature. I give plenty of "full-trained" doctor material that is "worthy" of your experienced eyes.

I don't see a signature in your posts.
 
Do other schools' OMM fellows function as anatomy lab TAs? (this was the case at UNECOM. Also some of the functional anatomy that had been part of the anatomy didactics was moved into the OMM classes prior to my matriculating in the early '00s. This served to offload some of the hours from anatomy and integrate the anatomy and OMM courses).
 
These are GREAT questions you should be asking at your level! Keep up that type of inquisitiveness. Everyone on this thread should check out this article that was originally posted by JessPT on the physical therapy forum.

Let me know what you guys think.

nice article... makes you think. Its fairly long so I skimmed through parts of it, so let me know if I missed something.

I somewhat use the "postural-structural-biomechanical model" they say isn't supported by the evidence, but I dont think I use it the same way they are talking about. Most patients appear to have more than adequate compensatory mechanisms to overcome symptoms at various levels of spinal asymmetry. Asymmetry in an asymptomatic patient doesn't bother me- a "normal variation" as the article puts it.

My goal in practice isn't perfection in symmetry. My goal is normal function and permanent minimization/remission of pain. If functional ROM of a joint or structure is impaired, this to me is a red flag and something that should be fixed. Postural asymmetries sometimes highlight factors like this and make them easy to find. There are many causes of back pain in symmetric individuals and there are many asymmetric individuals that will be pain free- so a lack of association in statistical studies doesn't surprise me. They need a more specific question.

My experience leads me to believe that in some individuals asymmetry matched with poor ROM of certain joints can lead to diffuse postural pain in different regions of the body. Fixing these regions of extreme stiffness and the corresponding improvement in posture appears to permanently resolve symptoms in multiple body regions for these patients.

Rarely i will use heel lifts- only when significant anatomic leg length difference is present in a symptomatic patient, or I am unable to figure out the source of a functional leg length difference in a symptomatic patient- and I believe the asymmetry is directly leading to structural instability and pain. Downward compression through the shoulders towards the feet will give you a quick sense of how efficiently a patient bears weight- it should feel stable and firm. Fixing a few structural things or putting in a small wedge lift can apparently significantly improve this efficiency of weight bearing (at least when measured by such crude means- would be another interesting study). Long term outcomes using this approach have been excellent for the subset of patients I think need this approach- though large studies are needed.
 
Do other schools' OMM fellows function as anatomy lab TAs? (this was the case at UNECOM. Also some of the functional anatomy that had been part of the anatomy didactics was moved into the OMM classes prior to my matriculating in the early '00s. This served to offload some of the hours from anatomy and integrate the anatomy and OMM courses).

Most schools don't do this, though I wish they would. Anatomy fellows in OMM lectures/labs to help highlight relevant details would be nice too.

edit: you guys have dr Willard too- one of the best anatomists in the country in terms of being able to describe functional anatomy and how biomechanics may impact anatomical structures and various disease pathologies. I have listened to many of his lectures over the years and they have been insightful. We need him to write an anatomy book for DO schools...
http://www.une.edu/faculty/profiles/fwillard.cfm
and i guess he does have a book:
http://www.medicalneuroanatomy.com/
 
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nice article... makes you think. Its fairly long so I skimmed through parts of it, so let me know if I missed something.

I somewhat use the "postural-structural-biomechanical model" they say isn't supported by the evidence, but I dont think I use it the same way they are talking about. Most patients appear to have more than adequate compensatory mechanisms to overcome symptoms at various levels of spinal asymmetry. Asymmetry in an asymptomatic patient doesn't bother me- a "normal variation" as the article puts it.

My goal in practice isn't perfection in symmetry. My goal is normal function and permanent minimization/remission of pain. If functional ROM of a joint or structure is impaired, this to me is a red flag and something that should be fixed. Postural asymmetries sometimes highlight factors like this and make them easy to find. There are many causes of back pain in symmetric individuals and there are many asymmetric individuals that will be pain free- so a lack of association in statistical studies doesn't surprise me. They need a more specific question.

My experience leads me to believe that in some individuals asymmetry matched with poor ROM of certain joints can lead to diffuse postural pain in different regions of the body. Fixing these regions of extreme stiffness and the corresponding improvement in posture appears to permanently resolve symptoms in multiple body regions for these patients.

Rarely i will use heel lifts- only when significant anatomic leg length difference is present in a symptomatic patient, or I am unable to figure out the source of a functional leg length difference in a symptomatic patient- and I believe the asymmetry is directly leading to structural instability and pain. Downward compression through the shoulders towards the feet will give you a quick sense of how efficiently a patient bears weight- it should feel stable and firm. Fixing a few structural things or putting in a small wedge lift can apparently significantly improve this efficiency of weight bearing (at least when measured by such crude means- would be another interesting study). Long term outcomes using this approach have been excellent for the subset of patients I think need this approach- though large studies are needed.

I have a very similar approach to you. I agree with the authors conclusions/bulletpoints in each section: asymmetries can be found in certain pain syndromes but their presence are not necessarily a risk factor for developing symptoms. Kind of your classic correlation does not prove causation argument.

Some of the PT students on the original thread were concerned about the implications of this article because it kind of questions everything that we base our treatments on. However, what the author does not mention is that people do get better based on our biomechanically theorized treatments. So what does this discrepancy mean? It implies that pain and MSK dysfunction is not very clear cut and that there are other factors that need to be considered to develop a good outcome.
 
I have a very similar approach to you. I agree with the authors conclusions/bulletpoints in each section: asymmetries can be found in certain pain syndromes but their presence are not necessarily a risk factor for developing symptoms. Kind of your classic correlation does not prove causation argument.

Some of the PT students on the original thread were concerned about the implications of this article because it kind of questions everything that we base our treatments on. However, what the author does not mention is that people do get better based on our biomechanically theorized treatments. So what does this discrepancy mean? It implies that pain and MSK dysfunction is not very clear cut and that there are other factors that need to be considered to develop a good outcome.
...factors such as poor ROM and local stiffness after an injury that the rest of the body has to compensate for.

what makes some worried is that this challenges the "wellness model" that some chiros use to justify 3 visits per week forever in asymptomatic patients is bunk. Some OMM docs might do this too to justify maintenance visits in asymptomatic individuals. To me this borders on malpractice/taking advantage of patients (even if the doc or chiropractor means well). This is the type of stuff that the rest of the medical community should come down on. I havent seen PT's working in this way- they are usually directed by physicians, so I dont know why they would feel threatened by these findings. Do you know the answer?
 
nice article... makes you think. Its fairly long so I skimmed through parts of it, so let me know if I missed something.

I somewhat use the "postural-structural-biomechanical model" they say isn't supported by the evidence, but I dont think I use it the same way they are talking about. Most patients appear to have more than adequate compensatory mechanisms to overcome symptoms at various levels of spinal asymmetry. Asymmetry in an asymptomatic patient doesn't bother me- a "normal variation" as the article puts it.

My goal in practice isn't perfection in symmetry. My goal is normal function and permanent minimization/remission of pain. If functional ROM of a joint or structure is impaired, this to me is a red flag and something that should be fixed. Postural asymmetries sometimes highlight factors like this and make them easy to find. There are many causes of back pain in symmetric individuals and there are many asymmetric individuals that will be pain free- so a lack of association in statistical studies doesn't surprise me. They need a more specific question.

My experience leads me to believe that in some individuals asymmetry matched with poor ROM of certain joints can lead to diffuse postural pain in different regions of the body. Fixing these regions of extreme stiffness and the corresponding improvement in posture appears to permanently resolve symptoms in multiple body regions for these patients.

Rarely i will use heel lifts- only when significant anatomic leg length difference is present in a symptomatic patient, or I am unable to figure out the source of a functional leg length difference in a symptomatic patient- and I believe the asymmetry is directly leading to structural instability and pain. Downward compression through the shoulders towards the feet will give you a quick sense of how efficiently a patient bears weight- it should feel stable and firm. Fixing a few structural things or putting in a small wedge lift can apparently significantly improve this efficiency of weight bearing (at least when measured by such crude means- would be another interesting study). Long term outcomes using this approach have been excellent for the subset of patients I think need this approach- though large studies are needed.

That article was certainly skeptical of physical therapy, in fact it was skeptical to the point of dismissal. It is written in the perfect scientific research model, but I have a funny feeling about it. Is it possible that the authors were determined to prove that physical therapy is a waste of time and used scientific argumentation for that purpose. The old "figures don't lie, but liars figure." (I am not calling them liars, but there should be more suggestions for study and less conclusion in their conclusion. I have a feeling that bias may have crept in).

Some of the things that it said was a little bit too contradictory to easily observed phenomenon. Is it possible that normal variation may cause episodic pain in some people and not in others? The authors don't address this issue. Do the histological changes that physical therapy induces have an effect on pain? Why do back "popping" and soft muscle techniques produce a pleasant feeling? When a technique has been around for thousands of years, it is likely to be associated with some positive benefit - I would like to hear some hypotheses.

It is good to see that some scientific work is going on in this area.
 
Most schools don't do this, though I wish they would. Anatomy fellows in OMM lectures/labs to help highlight relevant details would be nice too.

edit: you guys have dr Willard too- one of the best anatomists in the country in terms of being able to describe functional anatomy and how biomechanics may impact anatomical structures and various disease pathologies. I have listened to many of his lectures over the years and they have been insightful. We need him to write an anatomy book for DO schools...
http://www.une.edu/faculty/profiles/fwillard.cfm
and i guess he does have a book:
http://www.medicalneuroanatomy.com/

I would understand both anatomy and OMM better if they wre closely associated at my school. They once did a carpal tunnel thing together that helped me understand flexor retinaculum very well.
 
...factors such as poor ROM and local stiffness after an injury that the rest of the body has to compensate for.

what makes some worried is that this challenges the "wellness model" that some chiros use to justify 3 visits per week forever in asymptomatic patients is bunk. Some OMM docs might do this too to justify maintenance visits in asymptomatic individuals. To me this borders on malpractice/taking advantage of patients (even if the doc or chiropractor means well). This is the type of stuff that the rest of the medical community should come down on. I havent seen PT's working in this way- they are usually directed by physicians, so I dont know why they would feel threatened by these findings. Do you know the answer?

Other factors also include patient adjusting for patient expectations of pain relief, peripheral and central nervous system sensitization, patient education and compliance, secondary gain (i.e. workman's comp, litigation), etc. I can certainly see why they would feel threatened by these findings. As a student of osteopathy, chiropractic, or physical therapy we are all taught how to look for asymmetry. As a student, I remember thinking that correcting asymmetry will cause remission and recurrence of symptoms. This article shows from a scientific standpoint contradicts this premise to some extent. That's my best guess.
 
That article was certainly skeptical of physical therapy, in fact it was skeptical to the point of dismissal. It is written in the perfect scientific research model, but I have a funny feeling about it. Is it possible that the authors were determined to prove that physical therapy is a waste of time and used scientific argumentation for that purpose. The old "figures don't lie, but liars figure." (I am not calling them liars, but there should be more suggestions for study and less conclusion in their conclusion. I have a feeling that bias may have crept in).

Some of the things that it said was a little bit too contradictory to easily observed phenomenon. Is it possible that normal variation may cause episodic pain in some people and not in others? The authors don't address this issue. Do the histological changes that physical therapy induces have an effect on pain? Why do back "popping" and soft muscle techniques produce a pleasant feeling? When a technique has been around for thousands of years, it is likely to be associated with some positive benefit - I would like to hear some hypotheses.

It is good to see that some scientific work is going on in this area.

I don't think that he was knocking physical therapists and manual therapists specifically since he is an osteopath himself. I think that he was just naming some professions that often use this PSB model. But I do agree that bias is something we all battle with.

Which things seemed too contradictory?
 
Do other schools' OMM fellows function as anatomy lab TAs? (this was the case at UNECOM. Also some of the functional anatomy that had been part of the anatomy didactics was moved into the OMM classes prior to my matriculating in the early '00s. This served to offload some of the hours from anatomy and integrate the anatomy and OMM courses).

If I remember them telling me right, DCOM has OMM fellows in anatomy lab.
 
Do other schools' OMM fellows function as anatomy lab TAs? (this was the case at UNECOM. Also some of the functional anatomy that had been part of the anatomy didactics was moved into the OMM classes prior to my matriculating in the early '00s. This served to offload some of the hours from anatomy and integrate the anatomy and OMM courses).
PCOM doesn't. I never saw an OMM fellow in anatomy lab. However, they are the BEST teachers in the OMM lab because not only can they explain, but they do it well. The 4th years that are around are alright, but half the time I feel the clinicians just confuse me or assume we know more than we do.

I think if this was standard in the curriculum everyone would understand OMM more as whole and possibly employ it more often in practice since they have a solid footing of what actually is happening.
 
Other factors also include patient adjusting for patient expectations of pain relief, peripheral and central nervous system sensitization, patient education and compliance, secondary gain (i.e. workman's comp, litigation), etc. I can certainly see why they would feel threatened by these findings. As a student of osteopathy, chiropractic, or physical therapy we are all taught how to look for asymmetry. As a student, I remember thinking that correcting asymmetry will cause remission and recurrence of symptoms. This article shows from a scientific standpoint contradicts this premise to some extent. That's my best guess.

yes I agree with all the factors you mention as well. One of the models some of the DO schools teach is the "common compensatory pattern" where right anterior innominate and a L on L sacrum and functional leg length difference with the right short are considered the norm- allong with certain rotation of the fascias of the abdomen and rib cage. If the common "zig-zag" pattern is disrupted, then the body apparently cannot compensate and you have problems... and yet then they teach how to treat all these things they told you were normal variations... I just don't get it.

I haven't seen any evidence any of this is correct and I don't mess with it in my practice, though I have no evidence it is incorrect. Maybe I should look at it more carefully. In any case, not all the models taught in DO school worship symmetry.

A trap a lot of OMM departments get into is they teach certain diagnoses based on "feel" rather than some consistent landmark. This happens a lot when teaching fascial techniques, "indirect" techniques and/or cranial stuff- mostly because the practitioners don't know how to describe what anatomic structures they are on... this leads to some serious problems with inter-rater reliability of diagnosis, since everyone might be feeling slightly different structures.

One of the best kept secrets in OMM departments is that the docs often don't agree with each other on the diagnosis they find even when the landmarks are clear... I have seen this in action. In some cases the grading on practicals can be fairly arbitrary, that is why some students feel like faking confidence gets them a better grade- it probably does. Usually docs will give you the benefit of the doubt if its even close, but not all are so generous. The issue is that most of what you're diagnosing is on a healthy patient- the findings are mild- perhaps only 1-2mm different, and with good motion on either side. This is something I'd never mess with in the real world of patient care. I don't think the expectations of discrimination in these cases is realistic- for docs in practice much less students... and to grade a student off when another doc might agree with them is bad all around.

In the clinical setting- the patients I see... nothing so mild- especially the stuff "worth" treating. VERY obvious. I could take someone off the street and they could appreciate how abnormal the structures are once i showed them where to look. 95% of our effort in DO school should be focused on understanding medicine and learning how medical conditions influence and are influenced mechanical factors. Of the other 5% (the techniques) all of our efforts in school need to focus on identifying where severely abnormal structures are in the body- and then learning how to normalize them once found. You cant really learn this on healthy patients... you need to shadow in the clinic for this.
 
I don't think that he was knocking physical therapists and manual therapists specifically since he is an osteopath himself. I think that he was just naming some professions that often use this PSB model. But I do agree that bias is something we all battle with.

Which things seemed too contradictory?

There has to be SOME benefit to massage/physical therapy/adjustment or it wouldn't have lasted this long. I mean, really, just think of how beneficial we found blood-letting.
 
There has to be SOME benefit to massage/physical therapy/adjustment or it wouldn't have lasted this long. I mean, really, just think of how beneficial we found blood-letting.

I absolutely agree.

I don't think he was trying to prove that the PSB model is incorrect but to show that the literature does not support a "cause and effect" relationship. Now we all have treated people based on this model and it does work in many cases. So what's with the discrepancy? In my opinion (with respect to back pain), it's two main things:

1) Science still does not understand the EXACT mechanism of the back pain. We all have theories that have a lot of truth but also have its shortcomings as the author clearly points out.
2) Methodological challenges to studying the proposed mechanism. We have a hard time stratifying patients, choosing valid and clinically significant outcomes, controlling for interrater and intrarater reliability, etc.

Bottom line, this article proves that when it comes to MSK dysfunction and the perception of pain, nothing is black and white. This should spark a fire under you young physicians to figure this out!

The easy thing to do that many people do (and I'm speaking generally and not to anyone who has posted) is just say "it doesn't work" or that it's bunk because its hard to understand. If you follow that hyperlink, there is a bunch of people on their who give the "nuh-uh" argument over and over.

Great discussion everybody!
 
There has to be SOME benefit to massage/physical therapy/adjustment or it wouldn't have lasted this long. I mean, really, just think of how beneficial we found blood-letting.

I'm not knocking OMM or PT, but the "its been around a while and is in wide use and so it must work" argument is highly flawed, and a look through the history of medicine will tell you that it just isn't so. Not saying this applies to OMM, but old practices should be subjected to the same evidence based evaluation as new ones, but unfortunately frequently are not because they're already on the market and practitioners have no incentive to possibly strangle their revenue stream.
 
I'm not knocking OMM or PT, but the "its been around a while and is in wide use and so it must work" argument is highly flawed, and a look through the history of medicine will tell you that it just isn't so. Not saying this applies to OMM, but old practices should be subjected to the same evidence based evaluation as new ones, but unfortunately frequently are not because they're already on the market and practitioners have no incentive to possibly strangle their revenue stream.

There's actually two opinions expressed in my post. One is the one that you picked up on, the other is the "blood letting" reference. I'm a little conflicted about all of this.

I also doubt my doubts. I have personal space issues, and fear that my doubts are just a reflection of my discomfort.
 
To the OP:

Its difficult for some to embrace the philosophy of Osteopathy while being force-fed >10,000 new medical terms and processes through a fire hose (your first year of med school). It is likely and unfortunately assumed that you will have adequate time to reflect on this "philosophy" between your Monday and Thursday exams, and while enduring several months of sleep deprivation. That being said, your first year of medical school is a time to keep your eyes, ears, and 'mind' open, not to be dissuaded by the likes of complainers and frustrated students who cannot grasp these "principles". Unless you've specifically chosen to apply 'only' to D.O. schools (which it sounds as if you haven't), the time for reflection and appreciation of the osteopathic values and philosophy is bi-modal: the MS4 year and after internship (or the rest of your life, for most of us). I hope that you don't intend to know everything by the time you finish residency, or become that guy on the corner with the hammer.

The practice of Osteopathic medicine is a lifelong journey of discovery. Don't underestimate its efficacy for lack of knowledge. Read that book that sits in the corner collecting dust....the F.O.M..

"A mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
 
I'm not knocking OMM or PT, but the "its been around a while and is in wide use and so it must work" argument is highly flawed, and a look through the history of medicine will tell you that it just isn't so. Not saying this applies to OMM, but old practices should be subjected to the same evidence based evaluation as new ones, but unfortunately frequently are not because they're already on the market and practitioners have no incentive to possibly strangle their revenue stream.

Agree with this 100%
 
To the OP:

Its difficult for some to embrace the philosophy of Osteopathy while being force-fed >10,000 new medical terms and processes through a fire hose (your first year of med school). It is likely and unfortunately assumed that you will have adequate time to reflect on this "philosophy" between your Monday and Thursday exams, and while enduring several months of sleep deprivation. That being said, your first year of medical school is a time to keep your eyes, ears, and 'mind' open, not to be dissuaded by the likes of complainers and frustrated students who cannot grasp these "principles". Unless you've specifically chosen to apply 'only' to D.O. schools (which it sounds as if you haven't), the time for reflection and appreciation of the osteopathic values and philosophy is bi-modal: the MS4 year and after internship (or the rest of your life, for most of us). I hope that you don't intend to know everything by the time you finish residency, or become that guy on the corner with the hammer.

The practice of Osteopathic medicine is a lifelong journey of discovery. Don't underestimate its efficacy for lack of knowledge. Read that book that sits in the corner collecting dust....the F.O.M..

"A mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions." - Oliver Wendell Holmes

Agree 100% with this too... except the FOM part. smart people on today though.
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Instead of FOM I'd do some cross referencing between Netter and AT Still's work mixed with some Harrison's and some primary lit review articles. Good times.
 
I find myself in the very strange position of trying to convince other docs to be my competition... and to get my patients better forever so as to never come back, while using the least expensive interventions possible.
 
I find myself in the very strange position of trying to convince other docs to be my competition... and to get my patients better forever so as to never come back, while using the least expensive interventions possible.

What do you mean by convincing docs to be your competition?
 
What do you mean by convincing docs to be your competition?

In most areas of endeavor if you have a good thing going and you make good money and you love what you do- you keep it a secret instead of blabbing about it on public forums like this.
 
In most areas of endeavor if you have a good thing going and you make good money and you love what you do- you keep it a secret instead of blabbing about it on public forums like this.

Gotcha...
 
I do not mean to knock OMM or any of the guys on here that are serious about it.

I was never really into it and this was unfortunately compounded by the fact that OMM was last on my list of things to worry about when confronted with the incredible volume of information that you are expected to master in the first 2 years of medical school.

I also had a few zealots for professors that were kinda quacky at times which made things a bit more difficult to accept.
 
I do not mean to knock OMM or any of the guys on here that are serious about it.

I was never really into it and this was unfortunately compounded by the fact that OMM was last on my list of things to worry about when confronted with the incredible volume of information that you are expected to master in the first 2 years of medical school.

I also had a few zealots for professors that were kinda quacky at times which made things a bit more difficult to accept.

Dittos to this. Am I going to practice articulating the fibula or learning the coronary arteries of the heart. Hmmm, which is likely to help me pass a class. OMM can be passed with 0 study, but I will fail Anatomy if I don't spend 25 hours each week on it.

Like the OP, I am a first year student. We were introduced to muscle energy this week, and, whatever the mechanism, there is no question that there is an immediate relaxation of the treated muscles. This is easily observable and I don't need controlled studies in order to prove it. Also, this effect goes away within an hour. Again, this is observable. So, it would seem to me, that this procedure is useless as a standalone treatment but highly effective in those situations where a temporary relaxation of muscles is desirable in preparation for some other treatment to which I have not yet been introduced.

Like the OP, I have some doubts, but my doubts may be a result of not being terribly good at any of this.
 
Like the OP, I am a first year student. We were introduced to muscle energy this week, and, whatever the mechanism, there is no question that there is an immediate relaxation of the treated muscles. This is easily observable and I don't need controlled studies in order to prove it. Also, this effect goes away within an hour. Again, this is observable. So, it would seem to me, that this procedure is useless as a standalone treatment but highly effective in those situations where a temporary relaxation of muscles is desirable in preparation for some other treatment to which I have not yet been introduced.

Here is a brief overview of the key lesion theory. I dont think any part of this has been objectively validated with research- but it makes sense to me and it has proven itself to my patients day in and day out for years now.


With minor injuries, the body can usually heal without difficulty. Often a few major injuries occur to us over the course of our lives- major enough that the body stops trying to heal them... essentially "gives up" and decides to try to compensate for them. Fibrosis is laid down to minimize local movement and local symptoms. Often the body will then compensate for these with various muscle spasms, and there may be many compensations for every major mechanical issue in the body. Once compensated for, the original lesion is usually less symptomatic or asymptomatic. The compensations also- if there are enough of them, can be asymptomatic.

People become symptomatic when the injury is so large that the body cant compensate well enough, or when their body grows deconditioned and cant compensate as well as before. Often compensations which individually work too hard end up being symptomatic


This can easily be observed after someone breaks their toe and needs to wear a boot that limits motion. Walking then takes much more effort- and if the patient is older or deconditioned often their hips hurt or their neck hurts at the end of the day. After the bone heals, symptoms persist until the boot is taken off. The major lesions I describe above are like a boot that cant be taken off, and OMM takes it off.

If you have a patient wearing a boot as above with neck pain at the end of the day- and you do muscle energy on their neck (or pop it or whatever)... guess what. It hurts again the next day. Asymmetric muscle spasms return. Once you take off the boot miraculously in a day or two the hip and neck are fine. THAT is what I mean.

The "Key" lesion concept described by Dr Stiles and others just teaches you how to find these original areas of injury... causing you to check the foot to see if there is an anatomic "boot" in terms of a super stiff tailotibial joint after an injury causing them to limp- or whatever- despite the fact that the patient came in with neck pain. You would be randomly checking everything without a simple system.


This is considered an advanced topic though, and a lot of the schools dont get around to teaching it to anyone but OMM specialty residents... and most of the time even they don't really get it.

The people I talk about who get the really great permanent results after 1 or very few treatments all have different methods of finding these "key" lesions- but they all do it. The better a history you get, the better a physical exam you do and the better your knowledge of anatomy and the pathophys of the condition you are trying to fix- the better your odds of finding it and getting permanent remission. This applies to chronic pain as well as a variety of other common medical conditions that are considered manageable but incurable.
 
Here is a brief overview of the key lesion theory. I dont think any part of this has been objectively validated with research- but it makes sense to me and it has proven itself to my patients day in and day out for years now.

This seems to me to not a be a testable treatment plan, but rather a fairly straightforward explanation of how you approach diagnosing unexplained muscle pain. My question to you is, do you know anyone who uses any other approach? You present this as if it is not pretty much universal, in and out of the osteopathic world. I haven't started my clinical years, but I would have thought that everyone did this.
 
This seems to me to not a be a testable treatment plan, but rather a fairly straightforward explanation of how you approach diagnosing unexplained muscle pain. My question to you is, do you know anyone who uses any other approach? You present this as if it is not pretty much universal, in and out of the osteopathic world. I haven't started my clinical years, but I would have thought that everyone did this.

I should clarify:

Some schools teach rudimentary sequencing, but it just encompasses rules (such as treat sacrum before pelvis or thoracics before ribs or vice versa. Any such rules do not appear to succeed in real world cases (at least in my observations)- and this is why we need the research. According to Dr Stiles, (which strongly agrees with my experience) treating the stiffest lesion first is what leads to success- wherever it is. This is especially true when the symptoms you are trying to address occurred just after the injury that produced the lesion you are looking at.


the most effective people I am aware of all do variations on treating the stiffest lesion for chronic diseases/chronic pain, but I'd say it is a minority of practitioners overall. Most just focus on the presenting symptom, the region around the presenting symptom, or follow some memorized algorythm of treatment sequence- which works fine for an acute injury but produces temporary results at best in chronic disease- or no results with a treatment reaction at worst.

The two main variations I see in a global screen is a fascial oriented approach (which I use) and a biomechanical approach (which is how Dr Stiles teaches). I use global or regional fascial drag and visual cues to determine what parts of the body have the worst overall motion, and fix those first (or only). the process is very quick. Dr Stiles and others have a system of how to check a few key regions to determine if the worst restriction is above or below the diaphragm and then a systematic approach to rule out different regions and then each individual joint. It is somewhat more time consuming than what I do, but more thorough as well if you haven't developed your palpatory skills to a high degree. It is also a better approach if you tend to use Muscle energy techniques a lot- as the type of lesions you will find will likely be easily treated with that approach.
 
In response to the original poster. I would have PT in the roladex. If you feel like someone could benefit from PT intervention just write a script for a PT that you trust ("Evaluate and Treat"). We not only are well versed in a variety of mobilization and manipulation techniques, but we also address pain and weakness in order to return the patient to a high functional level.

There are many health professionals and others (chiropractic and massage therapy most notably), but I assure that the PT/DPT education does the best job of educating PTs on medical precautions and contraindications as well as EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICE. There is good literature to support a variety of manual techniques.
 
I highly doubt there is much behind the key lesion theory. Sounds Guruish and it is tough to build a house with that as the foundation.
 
I highly doubt there is much behind the key lesion theory. Sounds Guruish and it is tough to build a house with that as the foundation.

Entitled to your opinion. Hard to explain the results some of us see every day without it though.

The foundation is quite clearly anatomy, in conjunction with our best understanding of physiology and pathophysiology as supported by modern medicine rooted in the EBM literature. The key lesion theory just describes one way to approach patients to make yourself a lot less work and your results a lot more permanent. I think you'll find that without it gains will take weeks or months, as we usually see with most PT interventions. With the key lesion we are talking about 1 visit, if you do it right (I dont always do it right... but I would call permanent remission in 1-3 visits a success).

Dont get me wrong, I work with PT's a lot, and I think the work can be very valuable and compliment OMM well- especially where we are talking about deconditioning and/or stroke/spinal cord injury recovery, and certain sports med applications. These patients will need many visits, will need hands on care, but don't need the specialized knowledge of a physician every visit.
 
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Aside from your own experiences I would love to read the ANYTHING on key lesion theory. I am only interested in current research or really any research specifically to do with key lesion theory. It sounds like a gross oversimplification. I have heard many chiropracters make such claims about total body balance and an injury to the foot somehow throwing off alignment and it just doesn't hold up. Moreover, it is offensive to those as PTs who really are on the front lines of dealing with pain and using manual techniques that we are just flat out missing the point entirely.

Again, only current research or good research. The "my patients love it" thing will not work with me. I hear many massage therapists say the same thing.
 
Also, PT is about putting the care in the patient's hands. It may take weeks or months, but if things are done right that person has all the education and skill to perform everything we do at home in order to take care of the issue on their own. This is a terrible business model, but something we as PTs believe in. We never want to see a patient walk back through the door once they leave. Long term I think you need to put the care back in the patient's hands.

I am a firm believer that no one has "magic" hands that fully cure things. Pain is multi-factorial. What I find amongst clinicians is because they went to course x y or z they fall in love with their own narrow scope and may be missing the true source of pain.
 
The foundation is quite clearly anatomy, in conjunction with our best understanding of physiology and pathophysiology as supported by modern medicine rooted in the EBM literature.

If you want EBM look here. It is very difficult to compare massage therapists, PT's and chiropractors to what we do as physicians, as the quantity and depth of training required is vastly different.

The key lesion approach is one philosophy of approaching patients which appears to be very successful and time saving in addressing chronic pain and chronic medical diseases. I am providing this information for DO students- to allow them to determine whether this is something that warrants further training for them. The studies haven't been done, and I'm not sure if they are even possible or necessary- we're talking about what things to include in your medical history and exam, not a single objective measure that will always produce the same result in a cause-effect manner with every person (causes of a single symptom will vary widely).

As a physician, deepening your differential diagnosis in ways that are very high yield is universally beneficial. This is all the key lesion provides. The rest of your physical exam and the patients objective outcome will determine whether it was helpful.
 

Read through your key lesion post again and it makes a little more sense. Imay have been too quick to judge (sorry). You talk about the differences intraining, but actually PT is trained in a similar manner and to look behind theanatomical site of the injury and figure out what sort of muscular weakness,joint hypomobility or muscle tightness may be contributing to the patient’scomplaints (Huge difference between PT and chiropractic in terms of differentialdiagnosis).

What I find very limiting about this theory is the fact that many times withMsK and chronic pain there isn't necessarily an insult (i.e. broken footfollowed by immobilization with walking boot). I would like to give you anexample of this in a PT setting.

A runner comes in with anterior knee pain that comes on during the 3rd mileof his 10 k (atraumatic). Hurts when descending stairs and hurts when sittingfor greater than an hour. Classic presentation of patellofemoral pain syndrome(Tightness of the lateral retinaculum causing a lateral tilt of the patella;less surface area of the undersurface of the patella articulating with thefemur; same forces, less contact area = pain). Now, if the injury is more in theacute phase and you can manually bring the patella (by using a medial tilt)back to midline, than you can likely mobilize the patella while strengtheningthe hips and any weakness in the LE. This is a common presentation andtreatment utilizing hip strengthening (focusing on control of the femoralmotion during dynamic movements) that is very well validated by the literature.See last month’s JOSPT for newer stuff, but older research is certainly availablein the biomechanics literature.

If the injury appears without an insult, the key lesion theory falls apart.Most notably, chronic LBP is atraumatic and to deduce that at some point abroken ankle caused that is spotty at best. I appreciate that this research would be incredibly tough to do. You can point to differences in training allyou want, but give me something more than my patients love it and it works forme. I would appreciate a PM with some body of evidence.
 

Read through your key lesion post again and it makes a little more sense. Imay have been too quick to judge (sorry). You talk about the differences intraining, but actually PT is trained in a similar manner and to look behind theanatomical site of the injury and figure out what sort of muscular weakness,joint hypomobility or muscle tightness may be contributing to the patient’scomplaints (Huge difference between PT and chiropractic in terms of differentialdiagnosis).

What I find very limiting about this theory is the fact that many times withMsK and chronic pain there isn't necessarily an insult (i.e. broken footfollowed by immobilization with walking boot). I would like to give you anexample of this in a PT setting.

A runner comes in with anterior knee pain that comes on during the 3rd mileof his 10 k (atraumatic). Hurts when descending stairs and hurts when sittingfor greater than an hour. Classic presentation of patellofemoral pain syndrome(Tightness of the lateral retinaculum causing a lateral tilt of the patella;less surface area of the undersurface of the patella articulating with thefemur; same forces, less contact area = pain). Now, if the injury is more in theacute phase and you can manually bring the patella (by using a medial tilt)back to midline, than you can likely mobilize the patella while strengtheningthe hips and any weakness in the LE. This is a common presentation andtreatment utilizing hip strengthening (focusing on control of the femoralmotion during dynamic movements) that is very well validated by the literature.See last month’s JOSPT for newer stuff, but older research is certainly availablein the biomechanics literature.

If the injury appears without an insult, the key lesion theory falls apart.Most notably, chronic LBP is atraumatic and to deduce that at some point abroken ankle caused that is spotty at best. I appreciate that this research would be incredibly tough to do. You can point to differences in training allyou want, but give me something more than my patients love it and it works forme. I would appreciate a PM with some body of evidence.

As for PFS, I do see that a lot. Occasionally I can treat a single muscle (usually somewhere in the lateral quad) or inject it and get the patient relief, but in most cases I would teach them simple VMO strengthening. For patients where this is severe or if the patient has difficulty following instructions, I will send them to PT.

As I said before, sports med is one area where PT shines.

As for chronic LBP, thats where you are dead wrong- at least in some cases. If you are careful about the history- most cases of chronic LBP actually do have a traumatic history- though the patient often doesnt initially remember it or recognize its relevance. You need to trace back to the first sign of the LBP and ask them a detailed history of what sports they were doing and what kind of work they were doing at the time, along with whatever car wrecks or major falls they may have had within a year or two of the onset of their symptoms. The mechanism of injury will guide in how to conduct the physical exam.

For example: a patient presents with 5 year history of LBP. When pressed, they relay that they first noticed it ~August of '06 when they get a new job and are on their feet much of the day. The pain gradually worsens and now they have trouble with day to day tasks and have gained some weight. When pressed about trauma history, they do recall that they were T-boned at an intersection in February of 2006. They didnt think it was relevant since they did not think they were badly hurt, so they did not include it in their medical history.

Without the accident history- it would be easy to spend all your time focusing on structures of the low back, stretching tight muscles and strengthening weak muscles. Each time you work on them, symptoms gradually get better, and over a period of months they slowly improve.

My physical exam, however, would include a careful evaluation of the left upper ribs (location of the seatbelt), the cervical spine due to any whiplash phenomena, the shoulders (arms rigid against the steering wheel could easily translate to the torso) and right pelvis (foot on the break could easily translate to the torso, which is why we see pelvic fractures in MVA's). I do not anticipate problems at all of these regions, but with this history I do anticipate at least one of these regions will be grossly abnormal.

Normalization of the abnormal body region almost always results in immediate normalization of posture, and sometimes resolution of the low back pain even before treating the low back. No pain, no recurrence, happy patient. Total cost: a few minutes of your time during the physical exam and lots of extra thinking and anatomy training (if the problem is medical rather than pain related- then it takes extensive training in pathophysiology of the disease in question as well- usually more depth than the average physician gets in med school, more like what you'd see at the specialty level).

If you fix the problem you found and see no change in low back pain, sometimes there are overused structures in the lower back that need a day or two of rest before they feel normal again- or you can seek them out and fix them directly resulting in resolution of symptoms. You might also keep looking around the above regions for anything you might have missed.

If the patient still has symptoms on follow up- I consider it a treatment failure. You might target low back directly at this point- but improvements by direct action at tender and non-stiff structures are more likely to be transient- and if that approach doesn't resolve symptoms, that's when you go with patient take-home stretches/strengthening or rehab.

There is no purpose in having the patient suffer for months if you can fix once and for all in a few minutes- and usually a good DO can do this. It is also not that inconvenient to check these things over the course of a normal physical exam- so long as the doc has the proper training. Unfortunately most do not.
 
Suck it up and before you know it OMM will be a distant memory.

This is truly how you have to look at a lot of the whole process of becoming a physician. All the fluff papers and group projects that someone in some office thinks would be really "neat" for med students to do.


To the OP:

Just close your eyes, take a deep breath, and tell yourself the bad people will leave you alone if you just keep jumping their hoops with a smile.

Oh, and be confident no matter what you actually feel. Just say it with confidence and you'd be surprised what you can get away with in OMT. The secret to making it without knowing what the heck you're doing is to show up, be confident, and smile while you do it.

You want the degree and they know they can yank you around for 4 years without you being able to do a thing about it. That is what you signed up for.
 
I thought I'd give an update to this thread with later impressions. Firstly, I have been using a few of the OMM techniques on my family (unless I practice, I will fail the course). I am pleasantly surprised by the positive effects. I cured my daughter's headache, eased my father's back pain, and helped my son with a bad knee. I'm not sure that OMM is clinical skill that should be practiced exclusively by doctors, but if only as a massage therapy it does have some temporary positive effects.

Yes, I realize that the plural of case history is not data.
 
That article was certainly skeptical of physical therapy, in fact it was skeptical to the point of dismissal. It is written in the perfect scientific research model, but I have a funny feeling about it. Is it possible that the authors were determined to prove that physical therapy is a waste of time and used scientific argumentation for that purpose. The old "figures don't lie, but liars figure." (I am not calling them liars, but there should be more suggestions for study and less conclusion in their conclusion. I have a feeling that bias may have crept in).

Some of the things that it said was a little bit too contradictory to easily observed phenomenon. Is it possible that normal variation may cause episodic pain in some people and not in others? The authors don't address this issue. Do the histological changes that physical therapy induces have an effect on pain? Why do back "popping" and soft muscle techniques produce a pleasant feeling? When a technique has been around for thousands of years, it is likely to be associated with some positive benefit - I would like to hear some hypotheses.

It is good to see that some scientific work is going on in this area.


Wow, looks like I missed quite a thread. And Spicey, I wouldn't say that the author dismissed Physical Therapy. Rather, he is dismisive of the postural-biomechanical model, as all thinking, skeptical health care practitioners who see patients with pain should be. His issues are with the model, as are mine. That doesn't mean that interventions that are traditionally associated with the PSB model are ineffective, but it certainly does indicate that the mechanism behind the efficacy of these techniques is poorly understood.

And, regarding your questions in the later part of your post, Steve George, PT, PhD at the University of Florida is doing some nice work regarding the mechanism of action of thrust manipulation:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2474/7/68

He followed that one up with symptomatic individuals:

http://ptjournal.apta.org/content/89/12/1292.long

Another nice read, particularly if you're interested in those patients with chronic pain, is Melzak's Pain Neuromatrix, which I have attached. To date, I think this is the best, most comprehensive, and likely the most accurate description of the pain experience.


And, if you have a spare 45 minutes, this is a great video about pain and the role the brain plays in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3NmTE-fJSo&feature=player_embedded
 

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Wow, looks like I missed quite a thread. And Spicey, I wouldn't say that the author dismissed Physical Therapy. Rather, he is dismisive of the postural-biomechanical model, as all thinking, skeptical health care practitioners who see patients with pain should be. His issues are with the model, as are mine. That doesn't mean that interventions that are traditionally associated with the PSB model are ineffective, but it certainly does indicate that the mechanism behind the efficacy of these techniques is poorly understood.

And, regarding your questions in the later part of your post, Steve George, PT, PhD at the University of Florida is doing some nice work regarding the mechanism of action of thrust manipulation:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2474/7/68

He followed that one up with symptomatic individuals:

http://ptjournal.apta.org/content/89/12/1292.long

Another nice read, particularly if you're interested in those patients with chronic pain, is Melzak's Pain Neuromatrix, which I have attached. To date, I think this is the best, most comprehensive, and likely the most accurate description of the pain experience.


And, if you have a spare 45 minutes, this is a great video about pain and the role the brain plays in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3NmTE-fJSo&feature=player_embedded

JessPT,

Do you like the work of Paul Hodges? I really like this article a lot:

Hodges, P. W. “Pain and motor control: From the laboratory to rehabilitation.” Journal of Electromyography and Kinesiology (2011).


Great read. Also very thought provoking...
 
There's a reason to perpetuate the OMM thing and not invalidate it through actual research. Can you guess what that reason is?
 
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