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Does anyone know if we will be drug tested once school starts or what schools policies are on this. I live in Colorado so though I'm not a huge stoner if I was tested tomorrow I would not pass.
 
DVMDream said:
You should email the school and ask.
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Dear dean,

I am an incoming first year and a big stoner. When, if ever, should I stop smoking so that I wouldn't fail a drug test, should you administer them to students.

Thx


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Minnerbelle said:
Dear dean,

I am an incoming first year and a big stoner. When, if ever, should I stop smoking so that I wouldn't fail a drug test, should you administer them to students.

Thx


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mj420 said:
Does anyone know if we will be drug tested once school starts or what schools policies are on this. I live in Colorado so though I'm not a huge stoner if I was tested tomorrow I would not pass.
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I can't comment on that specific school, but we weren't at Illinois. We do have an honor code about drug use.

During our orientation, we were warned about drug use and the potential of being caught. Our associate dean made it clear that having a violation can make it hard/impossible for you to obtain a DEA license. Maybe a current DVM can comment on how accurate that is.

It was really hard for me not to throw in my personal thoughts on this question, though 🤣
 
rockatiel said:
Come on yall, are we really gonna give this gas?

MJ420??

:troll:
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I mean, for some people it's a legit question and this person could be genuinely asking and made and account to do so.

Or I'm just that gullible...but I have plenty of high school friends who are now in med school and were concerned about the same thing. I'm not sure if they elected to stop using or what, but yeah.
 
mj420 said:
Does anyone know if we will be drug tested once school starts or what schools policies are on this. I live in Colorado so though I'm not a huge stoner if I was tested tomorrow I would not pass.
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http://source.colostate.edu/marijuana-guidelines/

http://health.colostate.edu/resources/marijuana/

Testing I can't find, but otherwise it seems rather harsh for legitimate possession/use, but I guess you take your chances if you want. Then again, I may or may not have known people who had fake pee they'd microwave and tie to their inner thigh every morning before work in case there was a random test.
 
I've never heard of a school doing drug testing, but I would hope that anyone going into vet school and partaking of that particular habit would be smart about it. Like, not using in the week prior to starting vet school, or whenever expecting to interact with patients.
 
kcoughli said:
I've never heard of a school doing drug testing, but I would hope that anyone going into vet school and partaking of that particular habit would be smart about it. Like, not using in the week prior to starting vet school, or whenever expecting to interact with patients.
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I was planning on eating an entire batch of pot-brownies a few hours before the coating ceremony. Bad idea?
 
I'm just saying that marijuana can stay in your system for three months. I'm not planning on smoking all the time right/before or during school. Proper use of it will totally not affect my ability to be a great vet.
 
If this is true, I suggest you delete your location/ask the people who quoted your initial post to unquote it. Chances are you're going to be the only person from your state at ISU.....
 
Minnerbelle said:
Everyone be on the lookout for the pothead from CO
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Man, I wish I could still smoke once and awhile, definitely brought my creative juices out. People love to say how great it is for pain. Yea, maybe musculoskeletal pain, but it's crazy how much it intensifies my nerve pain. Not a fun experience at all.
 
pinkpuppy9 said:
During our orientation, we were warned about drug use and the potential of being caught. Our associate dean made it clear that having a violation can make it hard/impossible for you to obtain a DEA license.
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Though this is a different situation than what's being discussed, I worked with a vet whose classmate had some felony drug convictions (I don't believe it was marijuana related though) and I'm not sure said classmate ever managed to get a DEA license. From my understanding it made things really difficult for that veterinarian (obviously).
 
vetmedhead said:
Though this is a different situation than what's being discussed, I worked with a vet whose classmate had some felony drug convictions (I don't believe it was marijuana related though) and I'm not sure said classmate ever managed to get a DEA license. From my understanding it made things really difficult for that veterinarian (obviously).
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I mean you get a criminal conviction for a reason...but that would really suck for the person who may have been in less than ideal situations, turned his/her life around, and chose the veterinary path.
 
Considering it is still illegal on the federal level, I would imagine that there's a clause about marijuana use or general drug use with marijuana included and not using it while in school/associated with the school. That would probably be across most vet schools, I would think.
 
Occasional users usually have it out of their system in 3 days, frequent users usually have it out of their system in 10 days, and the most it can stay in seems to be around 67 days in rare cases.
So the question really is, how often do you toke it?!

I really doubt they do drug testing. No schools or departments that I have ever heard of have done that. In fact, I've never been required to do it for employment by grad departments. I think you're fine.
 
I'd be dropping the habit of illegal drug use (in most states) rather quick. One slip up as a vet that ends in needing you to be drug tested or even random drug testing at a place of employment once you graduate can ruin your career.

I worked for a place that had you drug tested anytime a bite sent you to urgent care.

I'd be more concerned with drug use post graduation, but during school can also ruin your career.
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
I was planning on eating an entire batch of pot-brownies a few hours before the coating ceremony. Bad idea?
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Just don't leave the brownies where Fido can get them. If you do, know that the entire clinic staff will be mocking you mercilessly when your squinty, drippy, wobbly dog stumbles through our doors.

And, for God's sake, pick a recipe without chocolate.

😛🤣
 
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Is this a serious post and question? Am I back in high school? I just think of smoking pot as so juvenile. Not to disrespect or judge anyone here but, this is adult life now. We're becoming doctors and are responsible for animal's lives now. We are to be respected and trusted in this field by clients to take care of their babies. Would I leave my human child at daycare with a person that smoked weed? Um no thanks. I also like how they wrote, "I live in Colorado so though I'm not a huge stoner if I was tested tomorrow I would not pass". Your user name has 420 in it..... Oh right, but you're not a huge stoner..my mistake. You obviously smoke enough to to create a 420 based username to specifically ask this question.
 
PreVetMed said:
Is this a serious post and question? Am I back in high school? I just think of smoking pot as so juvenile. Not to disrespect or judge anyone here but, this is adult life now. We're becoming doctors and are responsible for animal's lives now. We are to be respected and trusted in this field by clients to take care of their babies. Would I leave my human child at daycare with a person that smoked weed? Um no thanks. I also like how they wrote, "I live in Colorado so though I'm not a huge stoner if I was tested tomorrow I would not pass". Your user name has 420 in it..... Oh right, but you're not a huge stoner..my mistake. You obviously smoke enough to to create a 420 based username to specifically ask this question.
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Then you proceed to disrespect and judge. Obviously, you don't like marijuana, but you do realize it's legal in many states now and probably will be at the federal level in our lifetimes.

If someone does their job and wants to go home in the evening and puff a little joint rather than have a glass of wine, I sure don't give a ****.
 
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wheelin2vetmed said:
Then you proceed to disrespect and judge. Obviously, you don't like marijuana, but you do realize it's legal in many states now and probably will be at the federal level in our lifetimes.

If someone does their job and wants to go home in the evening and puff a little joint rather than have a glass of wine, I sure don't give a ****.
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Neither do I, as long as it isn't detectable via a drug test the next time they show up to work. If it will be detectable, don't do it. I don't care if you are positive for alcohol or Marijuana when working, both should get you fired.
 
DVMDream said:
Neither do I, as long as it isn't detectable via a drug test the next time they show up to work. If it will be detectable, don't do it. I don't care if you are positive for alcohol or Marijuana when working, both should get you fired.
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Yeah the problem is its detectable long after any impairment. I'm with wheelin, as long as you can do your job your free time is your business. But because of that until it is legal we have to play by the rules or accept the risk even if you are someone who doesn't agree with it.
 
I have friends from all sorts of professional fields who occasionally smoke. I know a couple vets who do, too, and they're still very good veterinarians.

It's not my jam but doesn't bug me as long as people are responsible... and something being detectable on testing does not mean that they are in any way impaired at that time.
 
Frozenshades said:
Yeah the problem is its detectable long after any impairment.
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I'm aware. Which means, don't do it until there have been established guidelines as to what levels cause impairment vs. what levels don't. But like you stated, until it is legal, play by the rules or risk the consequences. I don't personally understand the draw to smoking really anything, but to each their own. I also don't care what others do in their free time, but when your ass is in public and doing a job, it had better be functional and not under the influence of... anything.
 
kcoughli said:
I've never heard of a school doing drug testing, but I would hope that anyone going into vet school and partaking of that particular habit would be smart about it. Like, not using in the week prior to starting vet school, or whenever expecting to interact with patients.
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Hey @kcoughli was/is it part of the UMN honor code? I can't remember.

And (for everyone else) are there really vet schools doing drug testing?????
 
vetmedhead said:
Though this is a different situation than what's being discussed, I worked with a vet whose classmate had some felony drug convictions (I don't believe it was marijuana related though) and I'm not sure said classmate ever managed to get a DEA license. From my understanding it made things really difficult for that veterinarian (obviously).
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It's pretty easy to work without a DEA license. I mean, sure, it restricts you somewhat. But it's doable.
 
PreVetMed said:
Is this a serious post and question? Am I back in high school? I just think of smoking pot as so juvenile. Not to disrespect or judge anyone here but, this is adult life now. We're becoming doctors and are responsible for animal's lives now. We are to be respected and trusted in this field by clients to take care of their babies. Would I leave my human child at daycare with a person that smoked weed? Um no thanks. I also like how they wrote, "I live in Colorado so though I'm not a huge stoner if I was tested tomorrow I would not pass". Your user name has 420 in it..... Oh right, but you're not a huge stoner..my mistake. You obviously smoke enough to to create a 420 based username to specifically ask this question.
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OMG. We have a new Moral Compass.

Sorry, @pinkpuppy9 .... you've kinda mellowed out. I'm replacing you with this person.
 
LetItSnow said:
Hey @kcoughli was/is it part of the UMN honor code? I can't remember.

And (for everyone else) are there really vet schools doing drug testing?????
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I have no idea... though theoretically there likely is something in there about illegal activities.

It would be kind of hilarious if we hear about ISU instituting drug testing for its students next year. I would only assume it would happen because of this thread.
 
DVMDream said:
I'm aware. Which means, don't do it until there have been established guidelines as to what levels cause impairment vs. what levels don't. But like you stated, until it is legal, play by the rules or risk the consequences. I don't personally understand the draw to smoking really anything, but to each their own. I also don't care what others do in their free time, but when your ass is in public and doing a job, it had better be functional and not under the influence of... anything.
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And come Friday nights, when I hear the "Woooooo!!"s, the thumping bass coming from nearby apartments, or see stumbling people return to their homes, I think the same thing: I don't personally understand the draw to drinking to the point of substantial intoxication and partying like that.

I agree that you should not be working under the influence of anything, but the thing is, you could get seriously hammered on a Friday night, nearly kill yourself, do something stupid, spend all of Saturday throwing up, still feel it Sunday, then return to work on Monday and pass a piss test.

Or you could get super stoned on Friday, eat a box of thin mints, watch a Disney movie, return to work on Monday, fail that same piss test and ruin your career.

Until there's changes, yes, we have to play by the rules. Doesn't mean it can still be a little messed up.
 
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wheelin2vetmed said:
And come Friday nights, when I hear the "Woooooo!!"s, the thumping base coming from nearby apartments, or see stumbling people return to their homes, I think the same thing: I don't personally understand the draw to drinking to the point of substantial intoxication and partying like that.

I agree that you should not be working under the influence of anything, but the thing is, you could get seriously hammered on a Friday night, nearly kill yourself, do something stupid, spend all of Saturday throwing up, still feel it Sunday, then return to work on Monday and pass a piss test.

Or you could get super stoned on Friday, eat a box of thin mints, watch a Disney movie, return to work on Monday, fail that same piss test and ruin your career.

Until there's changes, yes, we have to play by the rules. Doesn't mean it can still be a little messed up.
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Never said it wasn't. And I don't drink to oblivion, never have, never will, don't get the appeal.

Just have to play by the rules. Basically, "life isn't fair".
 
Just got my packet from State yesterday and there was no mention of testing but I'm pretty sure there is an honor code.
 
DVMDream said:
Never said it wasn't. And I don't drink to oblivion, never have, never will, don't get the appeal.

Just have to play by the rules. Basically, "life isn't fair".
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In the words of my mom "life's a bitch and then you die." It sucks that life isn't always fair, but that's the way these things go. Until they figure out a new solution.
 
wheelin2vetmed said:
Then you proceed to disrespect and judge. Obviously, you don't like marijuana, but you do realize it's legal in many states now and probably will be at the federal level in our lifetimes.

If someone does their job and wants to go home in the evening and puff a little joint rather than have a glass of wine, I sure don't give a ****.
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Yeah I agree. As long as 1) you're not either drunk or high at work (or while on call), and 2) it doesn't affect your performance, I don't see what's wrong with it, especially if they're in a legal state


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cdoconn said:
Yeah I agree. As long as 1) you're not either drunk or high at work (or while on call), and 2) it doesn't affect your performance, I don't see what's wrong with it, especially if they're in a legal state


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The problem is the DEA being a federal agency. Again, if you want to take the risk, that's your call. But the DEA can make your life harder by not allowing you access to controlled drugs due to drug charges (of course this depends on if you get caught or not).
 
dyachei said:
The problem is the DEA being a federal agency. Again, if you want to take the risk, that's your call. But the DEA can make your life harder by not allowing you access to controlled drugs due to drug charges (of course this depends on if you get caught or not).
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I meant. DEA aside. I think that it's safe to assume that it will be federally legal eventually. So I meant that as long as what they're doing is not illegal (in general), I wouldn't have an issue working with a doctor, or sending my children to a daycare that smokes in their free time.
 
dyachei said:
The problem is the DEA being a federal agency. Again, if you want to take the risk, that's your call. But the DEA can make your life harder by not allowing you access to controlled drugs due to drug charges (of course this depends on if you get caught or not).
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And state licensing boards might determine that a drug charge is grounds for revoking your license. Especially if you are drug tested when an error occurs while practicing. Not including any lawsuit that could follow by the owners.

I mean, if people want to risk it simply for a high, that's their choice. But, again, life isn't fair, these are the current rules we have. Either pick to follow them, or face the consequences.
 
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