Easy to get a criminal record: How I went to Jail for "STUDYING in the library"

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They threw me in the county jail and I was like WTF? Hello.
 
I am closing this threat. I don't need some other people like you with limited and narrow view on this situation to comment on this situation like you know EVERYTHING.

I also wish you good luck, because you will need it as you may often be in positions to make decisions about social circumstances--the truth of which-isn't always so clear and scientific.
 
You continue to blame everyone else for your actions and try to play the victim, attempting to justify all of the things that you did which lead to your arrest.
That would be the definition of poor insight. Have someone work with you on social norms and social cues or you will have a difficult time in whatever career you ultimately choose.
 
orangeblue said:
The reason the officer gave me for trespassing was related to incident of "sleeping overnight" when in reality the library is also suppose to announce and check before locking down the building esp. if they are closing earlier than usual. Again, just lots of BS that I don't have time for.
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oh so you spent the night in the library after it closed!! ...yea, what you did was criminal trespassing. your argument that they should've announced that the library was closing is completely bogus. Assuming that they didn't (which I bet they did), you should have done something (like called the campus police to let you out of the library) if you had indeed simply accidentally stayed there after the library closed. But since you didn't do that it is obvious to everyone that you intentionally stayed in the library overnight by yourself after it closed...which amounts to criminal trespassing.
 
PS: you totally deserved what happened to you. i hope you actually learn something from this situation rather than continuing to be stubborn and hard-headed.
 
Why don't you act like a crackhead in your own library? The reason why libraries arrest non-students who refuse to leave at night is that they tend to be creepers who steal things and mug people.
 
IlDestriero said:
You continue to blame everyone else for your actions and try to play the victim, attempting to justify all of the things that you did which lead to your arrest.
That would be the definition of poor insight. Have someone work with you on social norms and social cues or you will have a difficult time in whatever career you ultimately choose.
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Good point!
This is the usual way criminals and addicts talk. They'll shoot themselves in the foot robbing a liquor store and tell the doctor: "This is everybody's fault, but mine!"

You will hear a lot of that bull in the future.
 
orangeblue said:
Sure I agree with that . But the main point of my post is distinguishing between what is criminal and what is not, and that there are far better more sophisticated ways of resolving this conflict. I am in communication with the Head of the Campus Police and Head of Librarian.

Yes, it's bad and not good for social norms, but this was FINALS week and everyone does that in finals week. HELLO! Yes, you can ping me and get mad, but it is not a criminal offense. That's the whole gist of my argument here.
But I FORGET This is GOING TO BE A SILLY threat b.c THIS IS SDN!!!!!

HELLO!!!

The reason the officer gave me for trespassing was related to incident of "sleeping overnight" when in reality the library is also suppose to announce and check before locking down the building esp. if they are closing earlier than usual. Again, just lots of BS that I don't have time for.
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Most libraries, actually EVERY library I have been in will anounce Twice before they close. Some even flash the lights, so the hearing impaired and people with headphones notice. Obviously they will need to use cattle prods next.

By the way, you were tresspassing at night and you knew damn well. Didn't you clue in after they turned the lights off?
 
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Um....where are these libraries you all speak of? The libraries I have been to involve peace and quiet...not cops, not tasers, no crazy librarians.

I feel as though I am missing out on entertainment...
 
iggs99988 said:
ROFL i really hope this is some kind of master troll. I find it impossible for a person like this to actually exist...HELLO!!!
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Sadly, my friend, you are wrong.
They often have some banned substance(s) flowing in their bodies when the "incident" takes place.

Blame the clerks.
Blame the librarians.
Blame the guards.
Blame the victims.
Blame the cops.
Blame the deputies.
Blame the Sheriff
Blame the prosecutor.
Blame the "****ty" defense lawyer.
Blame the judge.
Blame the jury.
Blame the correctional officers.
Blame the chaplains.
Blame the other inmates.
Blame the Warden.
Blame the probation officers.
Blame the parole officers.
Blame the drug dealers.
Blame the gun manufacturers.
Blame religion.
Blame society.
Blame the system.
Blame the dog.
Blame the politicians.
Blame the parents.
Blame the doctors.
Blame the nurses.
Blame the hospital.
Blame the devil.
Blame God.
Blame the lack of storage space

And on, and on. Heard it all and so will you.

Thes are often Mama's boys who grew (but not matured) with no father around and no discipline and no accountability expected from Mom, Mom's boyfriends, baby-sitters, daycare workers, etc.
 
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Why do you keep typing hello?

Btw you need common sense just for life let alone medicine. Otherwise you will make poor decisions leading to bad situations that could have been prevented. This thread is an example.
 
hiyaman said:
Why do you keep typing hello?

Btw you need common sense just for life let alone medicine. Otherwise you will make poor decisions leading to bad situations that could have been prevented. This thread is an example.
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He just keeps greeting every person who posts here. Quite congenial, actually.
 
link2swim06 said:
Um....where are these libraries you all speak of? The libraries I have been to involve peace and quiet...not cops, not tasers, no crazy librarians.

I feel as though I am missing out on entertainment...
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You can find that kind of entertainment in most participating trailor parks; sans the books; and the librarians have blond hair with brown roots and are not librarians.
 
orangeblue said:
Sure I agree with that . But the main point of my post is distinguishing between what is criminal and what is not, and that there are far better more sophisticated ways of resolving this conflict. I am in communication with the Head of the Campus Police and Head of Librarian.

Yes, it's bad and not good for social norms, but this was FINALS week and everyone does that in finals week. HELLO! Yes, you can ping me and get mad, but it is not a criminal offense. That's the whole gist of my argument here.
But I FORGET This is GOING TO BE A SILLY threat b.c THIS IS SDN!!!!!

HELLO!!!

The reason the officer gave me for trespassing was related to incident of "sleeping overnight" when in reality the library is also suppose to announce and check before locking down the building esp. if they are closing earlier than usual. Again, just lots of BS that I don't have time for.
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1) Any tone/issue of seriousness in this post was lost on me because of the HELLOs.
2) Putting stuff on a desk to indicate it's yours and then going home to sleep, not even nap, for SIX hours in a library of a university you don't pay tuition to has no justification in my opinion. People do that here at my university but that's during the night because during finals the library is open for 24 hours and other people still get mad because it's unfair/annoying. And I tend to agree!
3) As many others have mentioned, tresspassing IS a criminal offense. We are not talking about the degree to which the act was criminal, simply if it was or wasn't.
4) Grow up and admit you were partially at fault.
 
ohnolita said:
1) Any tone/issue of seriousness in this post was lost on me because of the HELLOs.
2) Putting stuff on a desk to indicate it's yours and then going home to sleep, not even nap, for SIX hours in a library of a university you don't pay tuition to has no justification in my opinion. People do that here at my university but that's during the night because during finals the library is open for 24 hours and other people still get mad because it's unfair/annoying. And I tend to agree!
3) As many others have mentioned, tresspassing IS a criminal offense. We are not talking about the degree to which the act was criminal, simply if it was or wasn't.
4) Grow up and admit you were partially at fault.
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I know all the "HELLO"s keep reminding you of Alicia Silverstone as Cher in "Clueless".
How appropriate!
 
Kadava Reviva said:
I know all the "HELLO"s keep reminding you of Alicia Silverstone as Cher in "Clueless".
How appropriate!
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YESS! That's the movie! I kept thinking where I've heard it before and that's it! Good on you, Kadava!
 
Forget silverstone, try angelina from the Jersey Shore (intro scene)
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0iLYpiRikQ&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

Umm, Hello!?
 
orangeblue said:
Sure I agree with that . But the main point of my post is distinguishing between what is criminal and what is not, and that there are far better more sophisticated ways of resolving this conflict. I am in communication with the Head of the Campus Police and Head of Librarian.

Yes, it's bad and not good for social norms, but this was FINALS week and everyone does that in finals week. HELLO! Yes, you can ping me and get mad, but it is not a criminal offense. That's the whole gist of my argument here.
But I FORGET This is GOING TO BE A SILLY threat b.c THIS IS SDN!!!!!

HELLO!!!

The reason the officer gave me for trespassing was related to incident of "sleeping overnight" when in reality the library is also suppose to announce and check before locking down the building esp. if they are closing earlier than usual. Again, just lots of BS that I don't have time for.
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If you started this *thread with that in mind, then you really had it coming. It's not like we're trolling you or anything, we're just saying that the police officer and the librarian were both completely justified in making an arrest. (HELLO? You were breaking the law. They specifically told you not to come back, and you waltzed right in there like an entitled ***** because you felt that their reasoning was insufficient(which, in a sort of screwed up ironic way, is also just as fallacious).)

So to wrap up, sorry that this incident was "just lots of BS that you didn't have time for", and I hope you got a decent dosage of common sense from all of this.

And, if you didn't, that's your own fault.
 
Conflagration said:
If you started this *thread with that in mind, then you really had it coming. It's not like we're trolling you or anything, we're just saying that the police officer and the librarian were both completely justified in making an arrest. (HELLO? You were breaking the law. They specifically told you not to come back, and you waltzed right in there like an entitled ***** because you felt that their reasoning was insufficient(which, in a sort of screwed up ironic way, is also just as fallacious).)

So to wrap up, sorry that this incident was "just lots of BS that you didn't have time for", and I hope you got a decent dosage of common sense from all of this.

And, if you didn't, that's your own fault.
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Like, Hello! It's like, pretty obvious he didn't! Okay? Like, Hello!
 
OP's snarky replies and enormous sense of self worth makes me glad he went to jail.

Thanks for making my night brah. 😎
 
Kadava Reviva said:
Good point!
This is the usual way criminals and addicts talk. They'll shoot themselves in the foot robbing a liquor store and tell the doctor: "This is everybody's fault, but mine!"

You will hear a lot of that bull in the future.
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:idea:

Perhaps OP can use this as an example of how they will be able to relate to patients!
 
orangeblue said:
I am closing this threat. I don't need some other people like you with limited and narrow view on this situation to comment on *the situation like you know EVERYTHING.

I also wish you *luck, because you will need it as you may *be in positions to make decisions about social circumstances--the truth of which *isn't always so clear and scientific.
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The bold phrase makes me think I'm reading a badly translated fortune cookie.

But on to better things.

Social issues are sort of expected in the people-oriented careers we're signing up for. Ethics is also a major component of medicine. These sorts of things are very hard to teach, if even possible at all. If you are committed to this being a career, you may want to work on that.
 
IlDestriero said:
You continue to blame everyone else for your actions and try to play the victim, attempting to justify all of the things that you did which lead to your arrest.
That would be the definition of poor insight. Have someone work with you on social norms and social cues or you will have a difficult time in whatever career you ultimately choose.
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If there's anything productive to come out of this thread, it would be your comments.

OP, I am sorry that your in a situation like this, but I would seriously caution you to listen to what posters are telling you. The fact that you made so many different people angry enough to go out of their way to see you punished speaks loudly about how you interact with people. I do not think you can compensate for this type of behavior with any amount of intelligence or skill.
 
His PS is going to be riddled with hellos.

I want to go to med school because HELLO I'm the best applicant that applied.
 
Would you all just chill out. OP, you, my friend, are a BAUSS (wit capital letters, ah yeah)

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jum7SIVEOjA&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
 
orangeblue said:
Sure I agree with that . But the main point of my post is distinguishing between what is criminal and what is not, and that there are far better more sophisticated ways of resolving this conflict. I am in communication with the Head of the Campus Police and Head of Librarian.

Yes, it's bad and not good for social norms, but this was FINALS week and everyone does that in finals week. HELLO! Yes, you can ping me and get mad, but it is not a criminal offense. That's the whole gist of my argument here.
But I FORGET This is GOING TO BE A SILLY threat b.c THIS IS SDN!!!!!

HELLO!!!

The reason the officer gave me for trespassing was related to incident of "sleeping overnight" when in reality the library is also suppose to announce and check before locking down the building esp. if they are closing earlier than usual. Again, just lots of BS that I don't have time for.
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The point here is that you committed a crime and they let you off the hook, but it was pearls to pigs. YOU decided to escalate the situation instead of cutting your losses and got arrested as a result of YOUR actions. Point a finger at yourself for a change and quit whining. Don't ever pull a stunt like that again unless you want to be Bubba's bitch.
 
orangeblue said:
Sure I agree with that . But the main point of my post is distinguishing between what is criminal and what is not, and that there are far better more sophisticated ways of resolving this conflict. I am in communication with the Head of the Campus Police and Head of Librarian.

Yes, it's bad and not good for social norms, but this was FINALS week and everyone does that in finals week. HELLO! Yes, you can ping me and get mad, but it is not a criminal offense. That's the whole gist of my argument here.
But I FORGET This is GOING TO BE A SILLY threat b.c THIS IS SDN!!!!!

HELLO!!!

The reason the officer gave me for trespassing was related to incident of "sleeping overnight" when in reality the library is also suppose to announce and check before locking down the building esp. if they are closing earlier than usual. Again, just lots of BS that I don't have time for.
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:laugh:

I hope you include those Hello!s in your PS as well.

"I want to be a doctor. HELLO!!!"
 
:laugh: OP: totally you're fault. Sleeping in the library overnight? Coming back to the library after you were clearly told not to? What did you expect?
 
If I was an adcom, I would be most concerned with the stupidity of going back to a place where you were told you would be arrested upon returning. WTF?
 
orangeblue said:
You don't always need "common sense" to be a doctor or any kind of specilized niche professional skills.
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It's unfortunate that you don't have anything that compensates for your lack of common sense. Things such as grammar or coherent speech.
 
orangeblue said:
I am closing this threat. I don't need some other people like you with limited and narrow view on this situation to comment on this situation like you know EVERYTHING.

I also wish you good luck, because you will need it as you may often be in positions to make decisions about social circumstances--the truth of which-isn't always so clear and scientific.
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Hi Friends,

Thank you for making me laugh with all your funny comments. 😀 Hello! 🙂

I do admit that I was at fault for going back to a public-access library even when told not to. Whether or not they had a reason to or a justifiable reason to--the point is that anyone can arrest me for criminal trespassing if they don't want you to be there for any reason.


That being said, there are some unique factors at play here, however, I don't have to discuss them here with you, of course. Some of the include: racial bigotry of the front desk staff (I have send a complain to the head librarian about the way the day staff was treating me and she spoke to them; however this harbored more resentment towards me by the front desk staff), the night-staff from 6pm-6am in the library had no problem with me, my learning disability that means that I have to be in a library space, the fact that it was a public access place not a private garden of one person, the support of librarian and the head of campus police, the arresting campus office's own personal attitude, and the lack of any explaination that was given to me by the arresting officer.

Yes, ethics and principals are very important(HELLO!!!). Otherwise, I wouldn't consider myself "educated". Going to school and taking "classes" does not make one educated. And I do realize (as I wrote in the letter to Judge and Court after they dismissed my case) that despite my own lofty and benign goals, I didn't have to go back there period.

I believe I went back because I felt that going back there during public access hour would be fine. I was allowed into the library and was sitting on my desk studying when the arrest was made. Long story short, avoid such encounters with people like that. An enormous time stuck (HELLO!!!)

HELLO, to all and thank you for making me laugh and assuring my belief that I do need to learn to conduct my daily life within some socially appropriate parameters.

Cheers,
OrangeBlue
 
Why are you assuming that I am a "his"? Avoid making such gender assumptions, please.


QUOTE=akszp4;11942669]His PS is going to be riddled with hellos.

I want to go to med school because HELLO I'm the best applicant that applied.[/QUOTE]
 
Kadava Reviva said:
Most libraries, actually EVERY library I have been in will anounce Twice before they close. Some even flash the lights, so the hearing impaired and people with headphones notice. Obviously they will need to use cattle prods next.

By the way, you were tresspassing at night and you knew damn well. Didn't you clue in after they turned the lights off?
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The lights were not turned off. The library had been 24 hours and was closing earlier at 6pm that day. I had finals and was very tired, studying. I felt asleep on the couchs on the 4th floor. Generally speaking security guards come by after the librarians have left past 6pm to check. No one came that day.

I am not saying that THIS makes me any less responsible for my not-so-great behavior, but simply just pointing out a face. I don't have any history of crime there or anywhere else. I don't even think that situation would have escalated if I didn't have a final to go to in 1 hour and had time to talk to the librarian. Again, there were several diplomatic ways for me to handle this, anyways it was a lesson learned.

It was ridiculous for the security officer to take me to jail, even the head of campus police said that when the Court called him up. The other officer who drove me to the jail also expressed similar views. The Court looked at my file and they said that this is not a "criminal case", especially see due to the above ambigious factors.
 
Knocked Up said:
Would you all just chill out. OP, you, my friend, are a BAUSS (wit capital letters, ah yeah)

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jum7SIVEOjA&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]
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Thanks bro 🙂
 
orangeblue said:
The lights were not turned off. The library had been 24 hours and was closing earlier at 6pm that day. I had finals and was very tired, studying. I felt asleep on the couchs on the 4th floor. Generally speaking security guards come by after the librarians have left past 6pm to check. No one came that day.

I am not saying that THIS makes me any less responsible for my not-so-great behavior, but simply just pointing out a face. I don't have any history of crime there or anywhere else. I don't even think that situation would have escalated if I didn't have a final to go to in 1 hour and had time to talk to the librarian. Again, there were several diplomatic ways for me to handle this, anyways it was a lesson learned.

It was ridiculous for the security officer to take me to jail, even the head of campus police said that when the Court called him up. The other officer who drove me to the jail also expressed similar views. The Court looked at my file and they said that this is not a "criminal case", especially see due to the above ambigious factors.
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Let me get this straight... you let a library security officer take you to jail...?

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