*Endo Interview Thread 2007*

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Just got this email.
Columbia University said:
It is with sincere regret that we are unable to admit you into Columbia University's Postdoctoral Periodontics program at this time. The number of well-qualified applicants continues to exceed the available spaces so we were unable to admit all of the qualified candidates for the class of 2008-2011. We thank you for applying to Columbia University and wish the best in your future endeavors. Sincerely, Dr. James B. Fine
Don't remember applying to perio there (or anywhere else for that matter), but it still hurts a little. 😛
 
I got that email too. I thought that was weird. Don't remember applying to perio programs.
 
Just got this email.

Don't remember applying to perio there (or anywhere else for that matter), but it still hurts a little. 😛

You got into Endo, but didn't make it into Perio? :laugh:

Just kidding...don't mean disrespect to the Perio crew!
 
Just got this email.

Don't remember applying to perio there (or anywhere else for that matter), but it still hurts a little. 😛

I got the same kind of email too.....
and columbia is supposed to be really good.. !
 
I ALSO HAVE THE PERIO E-MAIL FROM THE COLUMBIA GUYS.
LIKE SOMEBODY SAID: I DIDN'T APPLY TO PERIO, BUT IT STILL HURTS.
😳
 
Just got this email.

Don't remember applying to perio there (or anywhere else for that matter), but it still hurts a little. 😛

Just got another email from columbia.. my perio rejection has been rescinded!!
:clap::clap: I still have a chance!
 
I wonder what kind of rejection the perio applicants are getting.
 
Program: Baylor
Date Invited: 8/20/07
Date of Invite: Phone call
Date(s) offered for interviews: 9/24

wanna ask u some things bout Baylor.I applied dis yr fr Perio in Baylor.i wasnt called fr the intrview coz of incomplete application.is it dat both nbde part 1&2 scores needed fr applying or only part 1?what bout other programs i.e. Endo,Pedo etc.
 
Firstly, your ENGLISH and understanding of your text is very poor!! This is an ENDO forum so please forward any perio questions to the perio guys, who i am sure will be happy to help. My advice to you would be to contact Baylor and ask them what was missing and what can help strengthen your application for the next upcoming year.

I wish you the very best.
 
Hello every one,😍
I am just wondering that how many applied to the Case Western Reserve Endo program. How you consider the Program at Case.
And is there any who got accepted? 👍
 
Hello every one,😍
I am just wondering that how many applied to the Case Western Reserve Endo program. How you consider the Program at Case.
And is there any who got accepted? 👍

It is one of the most labor intensive programs in the country. the program is awesome, when u graduate you will know your ****.
 
Anyone hear from NYU yet? What other programs still not all selected yet??
 
We're missing about 20 programs information still. Does anyone know classmates or friends who can contribute the information for the schools not listed yet? That would be a big help to the folks next year.

NYU should be getting to the first wave of people interviewed in the next week or so. I'm pretty certain they admit on a rolling basis though, so it's tough to say when their process is over for good. If you're really interested, you may want to call Dr. Rosenberg directly. I have not heard from the VA Manhattan yet.

Good luck to the folks out there still trying!
 
I'm strongly considering endo and could use some advice. I don't have great NBDE scores (mid 80's), but I do have good grades, come from a top school, and have excellent extracurriculars. I will also have good recs... What else can I do? Would taking the GRE help? I'd really love to be able to go in to a program straight out of school, though I know my board scores may make this difficult. I'd love any suggestions...
 
I'm strongly considering endo and could use some advice. I don't have great NBDE scores (mid 80's), but I do have good grades, come from a top school, and have excellent extracurriculars. I will also have good recs... What else can I do? Would taking the GRE help? I'd really love to be able to go in to a program straight out of school, though I know my board scores may make this difficult. I'd love any suggestions...

Every program and every applicant is different, but it is extremely competetive for those of us coming straight out of school. I'll give you my situation and you can draw your own conclusions: 94 boards, 3/83 class rank, 3.8 GPA, research, some teaching. With those stats, let me tell you I was very average on the interview trail. I interviewed at 7 programs and was accepted at one. Almost all applicants have the same stuff you have with higher board scores, and your boards will hurt you, but it may be worth taking a shot if you feel like you have a chance. As for the GRE, I can't see it helping a lot, but I really have no idea. If it was me, I would save myself $4,000 in app fees and travel for interviews and do a GPR. Good luck with whatever you do.
 
I did well on the GRE, and a couple programs even commented that my scores were impressive. However, I didn't get in to those schools. So to answer your question, doing well on the GRE won't help you get an interview, and it won't make or break getting in either. But it is a nice "complement" to your overall application. I strongly disagree with Endoking. While the whole application process is very costly, it's a drop in the bucket compared to future potential earnings. Take a shot at it. What's the worst that happens? Plus, even if you don't get it you'll still learn from the whole process. As far as what you can do to improve yourself, I asked the same thing. And the most common answer I got was "nothing". I would make sure that the letters you get are not "good", but excellent. Let your recommenders get to know you as well as possible. Write a fantastic essay that conveys your unique points. Good luck.
 
My first recommendation would be to retake Part I. Coming right out of school, you had better be 90+ minimum. You are competing with very, very good applicants and without good boards, your battle is significantly uphill. The folks I met right out of school were like Endoking and EDL, big numbers, strong overall backgrounds, good personalities and a lot of promise. If you retake part I and have money to burn give it a shot. The GRE was a part of the application at two schools I applied to, but I think it is only a piece of a full application and not a big one at that. Good luck.
 
probably wouldn't hurt to go and do a couple externships during a break. I personally didn't do any but fellow classments felt it was a good way of getting to know program directors, residents, etc at a particular program. Showing that dedication can only help you when it comes to decision time. Prob would only help you at the school you do the externship at, but hey you only need one.
 
...good personalities and a lot of promise...

Thanks for the compliment dlux. I wish we could have hung out at more interviews together.

I would agree a 90+ would be very helpful to your application whether straight out of school or after. As Elipar said, I think you should go for it if you are really passionate about endo...but go into it cautiously optimistic with a solid plan "b". Best of luck.
 
Thanks for the compliment dlux. I wish we could have hung out at more interviews together.

I would agree a 90+ would be very helpful to your application whether straight out of school or after. As Elipar said, I think you should go for it if you are really passionate about endo...but go into it cautiously optimistic with a solid plan "b". Best of luck.

what about 4 yrs of private practice, GPR, NBDE of 86-87; GPA of 3.4, Lower 1/3 class rank; what chance do i stand?
 
what about 4 yrs of private practice, GPR, NBDE of 86-87; GPA of 3.4, Lower 1/3 class rank; what chance do i stand?

A plus on the experience in practice and GPR. GPA seems low from what I heard on the interview trail, but I'm from a Pass/Fail school so I don't know for sure, the boards and class rank are minuses. Have you done any research or teaching? What about CE? What are your future plans?

A well crafted personal statement, some personal correspondence with the program director/visits to well selected programs(read partial to experience, large class size, possibly your alma mater), a solid interview and a dash of luck and you may find a spot. If you just file an app blind though, I'd think your chances may be pretty limited. Good luck.
 
Good advice dlux. Although I am no expert on endo applications with your kind of great experience I would think that your board scores and GPA would be slowing things down, but probably not stopping the process altogether. One option to look at as well is a preceptorship like the one at San Antonio. I know that really helped one of their residents who had a situation similar to yours.

Best of luck Molar Juncky!
 
Those preceptorships really do improve your chances...if you work your butt off, you're pretty much in! You really need to investigate them and pick a good one to make it worth your while but they can be quite expensive...the one at SA Texas is 35K for one year!
 
Take a shot at it. What's the worst that happens? Plus, even if you don't get it you'll still learn from the whole process.
This is a great point, the application and interview process was a very eye opening experience and would be very helpful to go through even if you don't get in. I also think the preceptorship is a good idea--if you think about it as a three year program at San Antonio, (one year preceptor, two years resident) its kind of like one of the three year endo residencies. However, if you think you can do better on the boards, I would retake those first as dlux said and that may be a faster solution.
 
thanx everyone for their recommendations. I believe its too late to apply this year.
 
Dukie,
I would apply right out of school. I didnt think I had a shot with a 90 on the boards, and a 3.4 gpa (upper 1/2 class rank), but I ended up getting eight interviews and one acceptance. You never know unless you try, and at very least you get your name out there.
Best of Luck
 
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