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I just remembered I'm driving to my next externship tomorrow. So I guess I should actually be present a little bit today since I'll be out a good chunk of tomorrow. Though really, not sure what else to say since everything I have said has been conveniently ignored anyways. Seems early for role revealing. And really not happy that I'm only left with one PM option in my group (which is weird coming from me). I had opened a PM with MsP but that's gone now.

Though honestly, part of me just wants to peace out and let you all vote me. I'm so tired of this game. End game fatigue has already hit me and we're on what, Day 3 or 4? With 74 whole pages to flip through. I don't know how you people do this. It's exhausting. I'm hanging in there because I know it irks me as a mod when players don't play, but I don't know. I don't have the energy for some passionate defense. Especially when people aren't even listening to it anyways. I feel like people do a lot of talking about me (with very little substance) but not much talking to me.

At any rate,
mkg's flip made me feel worse about...

Barks because the timing right after Z's death felt like it could have been a bus. I know AM wants to clear everyone on the D2 wagon... I both have no idea whether Barks was on that wagon nor do I put much stock in AMs opinion anyways.

sunny due to reasons already stated and I don't feel warrant repeating

alissa who seemed to be trying to feel out whether flipping the vote to cyndia was viable near close

It made me feel better about capri because I still have the feeling like she had something to do with the shot (and I wish someone would ya know, at least tell me if they see what I see or think it's ridiculous) and since I don't think the shot was wolfy now it follows that if capri was involved with the shot, I don't think she's a wolf.
 
finnickthedog said:
Barks because the timing right after Z's death felt like it could have been a bus. I know AM wants to clear everyone on the D2 wagon... I both have no idea whether Barks was on that wagon nor do I put much stock in AMs opinion anyways.
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Barks was first on mkg d2
 
finnickthedog said:
It made me feel better about capri because I still have the feeling like she had something to do with the shot (and I wish someone would ya know, at least tell me if they see what I see or think it's ridiculous) and since I don't think the shot was wolfy now it follows that if capri was involved with the shot, I don't think she's a wolf.
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Oh sorry I thought I had said yesterday that I thought your idea about capri being involved in the shot was interesting. It was odd that she just happened to be around right when the shot went off even though she's typically pretty sparse.

Different conclusions on capri's affiliation based on that but I could see her being involved.
 
Crayola227 said:
I said to Pip in my mod Pm if I did a game, i would probably make mayor be an unseerable or normal result for reasons yanno.
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I thought straightforward seers were falling out of favor when I last played anyways. Granted, this was a year ago but like... did opinions change on that?
 
finnickthedog said:
I thought straightforward seers were falling out of favor when I last played anyways. Granted, this was a year ago but like... did opinions change on that?
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Still hate em but they show up occasionally. There was one in Bioshock but that's because that game was designed 4+ years ago and I didn't feel like changing it much :laugh:
 
samac said:
GOD DAMMIT BREAD WE COULD HAVE BEEN UNSTOPPABLE TOGETHER.

Also someone tried to kill me last night.
As PM until a certain series of events happens or we get reeeeeeal late in the game you can’t kill me, wolves. I kept that hidden so you all would use a kill attempt on me. 😈
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You shouldn't have bragged about this. They would have been in the dark and had to keep questioning about when they could go after you like every single night, and who knows when they might have tried again and wasted another kill.

I went through that with LIS in Bioshock.

I'm trying to find a polite way to say you kinda have a big mouth and it makes me question you being trusted with so much info and the ways you're using it.
 
Crayola227 said:
You shouldn't have bragged about this. They would have been in the dark and had to keep questioning about when they could go after you like every single night, and who knows when they might have tried again and wasted another kill.

I went through that with LIS in Bioshock.

I'm trying to find a polite way to say you kinda have a big mouth and it makes me question you being trusted with so much info and the ways you're using it.
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Chill. It's not like it was a no kill night. How were we supposed to know she was attacked at all without her saying something?
 
genny said:
yeet dubz

for hopping off mkg. twice. and trying to start alternate wagons both times.
finn is also a good choice, not necessarily for the teapot sheriff thing, but for that late vis vote.
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I've got feelz for Dubz and want pressure there. I know that last post said I side eyed you for something, but in general I read you village.

I'm also not sure about the Finn and Sunshine wagons and would like an alternate.
 
Crayola227 said:
Um did you notice how I pointed out it's actually also useful for wolves?
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It's really not. They already know she avoided (and why that could happen) before she said anything. If wolves want to keep attacking there, that's on them to risk intentionally wasting at least one more cycle. Still ultimately helpful to village, so I'm not complaining though.
 
Barkley13 said:
I’ve been increasingly interested in the Finn vote. Also still like the sunshine vote
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Sunshine can you use something besides dislike for dislike? Dislike affects people's reaction scores and that shouldn't have to go down for a game. If Barks was wolf she would be obligated for all players playing to play as well as possible even if that meant going after an innocent person as hard as possible.

Personally I don't like seeing dislikes in this game. And inappropriate should only be if you think the post is so awful that a mod should immediately come to thread and end the entire game, AFTER you've tried to get the game mod to help.
 
Crayola227 said:
I've got feelz for Dubz and want pressure there. I know that last post said I side eyed you for something, but in general I read you village.

I'm also not sure about the Finn and Sunshine wagons and would like an alternate.
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I don't know what you think pressure on me will do. Not like I haven't been here and talking. If you have a problem with my posts I'm happy to address your concerns, if your issue is about me leaving the mkg vote, well, not much I can do about that. My interactions with her are not how I behave as a wolf but I think everyone here already knows that.
 
Crayola227 said:
Sunshine can you use something besides dislike for dislike? Dislike affects people's reaction scores and that shouldn't have to go down for a game. If Barks was wolf she would be obligated for all players playing to play as well as possible even if that meant going after an innocent person as hard as possible.

Personally I don't like seeing dislikes in this game. And inappropriate should only be if you think the post is so awful that a mod should immediately come to thread and end the entire game, AFTER you've tried to get the game mod to help.
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Not saying I like the dislike, because I think it's meh, but it doesn't change reaction score. Only inappropriate does, to my knowledge.
 
Animal Midwife said:
It's really not. They already know she avoided (and why that could happen) before she said anything. If wolves want to keep attacking there, that's on them to risk intentionally wasting at least one more cycle. Still ultimately helpful to village, so I'm not complaining though.
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Why would they know the terms of her avoidance? And you don't see that they might be more likely to try again and waste a kill if they don't know the terms of the avoidance, vs if they know they can make more effective kill choices?

Again, I don't know what stood to be gained from the reveal.
 
Crayola227 said:
Sunshine can you use something besides dislike for dislike? Dislike affects people's reaction scores and that shouldn't have to go down for a game. If Barks was wolf she would be obligated for all players playing to play as well as possible even if that meant going after an innocent person as hard as possible.

Personally I don't like seeing dislikes in this game. And inappropriate should only be if you think the post is so awful that a mod should immediately come to thread and end the entire game, AFTER you've tried to get the game mod to help.
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We already discussed this, remember? Only inapproripates have any negative effect on reaction scores.
 
Crayola227 said:
Why would they know the terms of her avoidance? And you don't see that they might be more likely to try again and waste a kill if they don't know the terms of the avoidance, vs if they know they can make more effective kill choices?

Again, I don't know what stood to be gained from the reveal.
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Unless the entire pack miraculously has no concept of what kills mean, they already know she avoided. This is extremely basic. If they try again, they are fools.
 
genny said:
yeet dubz

for hopping off mkg. twice. and trying to start alternate wagons both times.
finn is also a good choice, not necessarily for the teapot sheriff thing, but for that late vis vote.
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Let's talk about why I would have bothered starting an alternate wagon either day when there were already viable wagons on the board.

I don't pussyfoot around my packmates' wagons when I'm wolfing. It's either bus or save, overwhelmingly more often the latter. I don't spend hours and hours pushing the logic that leads to them being voted. Again, you know this.
 
Crayola227 said:
You shouldn't have bragged about this. They would have been in the dark and had to keep questioning about when they could go after you like every single night, and who knows when they might have tried again and wasted another kill.

I went through that with LIS in Bioshock.

I'm trying to find a polite way to say you kinda have a big mouth and it makes me question you being trusted with so much info and the ways you're using it.
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You’re right. I probably should have kept that to myself. I was excited to have a gotcha moment on the wolves. Past that I stand by what I shared on the thread.
Things like my tinfoil and sharing that I’m a tie breaker is transparency in comfortable with sharing. overall I think a level of transparency helps the village.
Crayola227 said:
It's almost worth it for that reason alone
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Agreed.
 
Well I can’t tell how it affects the react score because I changed it to different things (besides inappropriate) and I never saw the score change, even with a like. So I don’t know if the score is delayed or what. But I changed to angry for now. Which as I’ve said before to me is a stronger reaction than dislike.
 
As brief side note on the dislike thing... personally I wouldn't care even if dislikes did lower reaction score. We all get our reactions scores padded by playing this game anyways so it just doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me. Though tbh I don't use most of the reactions anyway.
 
finnickthedog said:
I can assure you it's not, though I understand the sentiment.
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Oh I laugh reacted it because of the “it would shut you up part”.

because #1 Samac that was either a huge overshare that helps the wolves and/or made up. #2 you were the tiebreaker twice and chose to get rid of a villager over a wolf. #3 you have let this whole PM thing go to your head in that anybody and everybody should be PM’ing you so that you can have this entire parallel game going in your PMs, and become the philosopher-ruler on the thread.

#4 is the notes I already have on you: -Samac-weird rojo?, over the top oh no reaction to April, broke 2 ties to yeet villagers, ?Enigma PM partner/dismissive
 
tape bert GIF
 
sunshinefl said:
AM, Cray is right and you are not the final authority on WW.
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::Unlynch sunshine::

That's how much I appreciate that.

Might come back for it though later. Because me being petty with AM probably doesn't outweigh actually playing. But it's still very early in the round so why not.
 
sunshinefl said:
Oh I laugh reacted it because of the “it would shut you up part”.

because #1 Samac that was either a huge overshare that helps the wolves and/or made up. #2 you were the tiebreaker twice and chose to get rid of a villager over a wolf. #3 you have let this whole PM thing go to your head in that anybody and everybody should be PM’ing you so that you can have this entire parallel game going in your PMs, and become the philosopher-ruler on the thread.

#4 is the notes I already have on you: -Samac-weird rojo?, over the top oh no reaction to April, broke 2 ties to yeet villagers, ?Enigma PM partner/dismissive
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1. At the time it felt good to rub it in their faces to share the NK protection, in retrospect maybe that was TMI, but I don’t think it hurts us for them to hunt the way to kill me and focus on that. I think I’ve pissed them off at this point, and I’ll take angry wolves any time.
2. You’re right. I should have picked mkg over Visc. Whoops. That was a bad call on my part, but (even though it was fake) mkg role revealed and Visc made the tie. I thought I was picking the better of the 2 and turns out it was wrong. You’re also acting sure you know I picked the wrong person day 1. Know something I don’t?
3. Lol. I just like PMs. I don’t think everyone has to, but it is nice I’m kind of a central person in London for a communication chain. It gives people (including me) a safer place to talk ideas through before on thread. Fortunately, I didn’t pick mkg as one of those safer spaces, but I did buy that she was being absent because she was at the vet with her mare that she told me and her role reveal. I appreciate that you think I could become the philosopher ruler though, 10/10.
4. I shut it down because I know the Pm theory was bunk since I was her only PM partner and said if people thought she may have been killed for a theory or some knowledge she had that it would be on thread. I don’t think I was dismissive at all, I was just pointing out where to look and reminding people that sometimes kills aren’t for any particular reason.

I appreciate you coming at me though, if you are wolf it’s smart to try to get me yeeted because you know you can’t kill me.
 
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