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The young, the educated, the working professionals are all moving to the coastal cities of California!

While the old, the less educated, the unemployed are moving to Texas.
 
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My parents lured me into pharmacy promising that it was my ticket out there.

I took the bait. Man, I'm dumb.
 
California has about 5% premium in additional tax burden.
 
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Small price to pay for the 365 days of sunshine.

State income tax is also a tax deduction.
 
You get maybe ~$5 difference tops ($10k more). But, to buy an average house will be 2.5X price minimum.
 
Buying a house is the hardest part. House prices are outrageous. If you want to live in a city with good schools, within 30 miles from the beach, your household income needs to be at least 200 k a year for your family to live comfortably.
 
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You get maybe ~$5 difference tops ($10k more). But, to buy an average house will be 2.5X price minimum.
so in Calif. pharmacist work harder to only pay off house to cash out in reitrement/give to child
seems like a hard sell lol
Buying a house is the hardest part. House prices are outrageous. If you want to live in a city with good schools, within 30 miles from the beach, your household income needs to be at least 200 k a year for your family to live comfortably.

hope you're joking. Are inland Calif. parts really bad?
 
so in Calif. pharmacist work harder to only pay off house to cash out in reitrement/give to child
seems like a hard sell lol


hope you're joking. Are inland Calif. parts really bad?

It is not worth it. I would rather live in another state like Washington than riverside, Moreno Valley.
 
so in Calif. pharmacist work harder to only pay off house to cash out in reitrement/give to child seems like a hard sell lol

hope you're joking. Are inland Calif. parts really bad?

If you want to come to CA to only live 3 hours from the metro/coast area, you might as well live in Florida or Texas. All the good things are near the coast line, beach, food, social scene, events, parks, diversity, and 75-80F weather year round.
 
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If you want to come to CA to only live 3 hours from the metro/coast area, you might as well live in Florida or Texas. All the good things are near the coast line, beach, food, social scene, parks, diversity, and 75-80F weather year round.
FL>Ca
 
If you want to come to CA to only live 3 hours from the metro/coast area, you might as well live in Florida or Texas. All the good things are near the coast line, beach, food, social scene, events, parks, diversity, and 75-80F weather year round.

Oh also women! All the single ladies with great jobs $100-400k+ are concentrated in the bay area, LA and San Diego.
 
Oh also women! All the single ladies with great jobs $100-400k+ are concentrated in the bay area, LA and San Diego.
Grr maybe I should move to Calif. tired of having 3x income of my most recent significant other hehe
 
Grr maybe I should move to Calif. tired of having 3x income of my most recent significant other hehe

SO with A LOT less income for me is a deal breaker. It says a lot about a girl making $10-15/hr, non ambitious, settle for less, not looking to better herself, no drive, less smart, not educated, not future oriented, less independent, etc.

Seeking a life long partner, guys don't just care about looks anymore.
 
SO with A LOT less income for me is a deal breaker. It says a lot about a girl making $10-15/hr, non ambitious, settle for less, not looking to better herself, no drive, less smart, not educated, not future oriented, less independent, etc.

Seeking a life long partner, guys don't just care about looks anymore.
How is job market in Los angles, san diego, bay area? I assume its bad.

Im happy with my position currently, dont want to give it up to move to big city to find better partner. but clock is ticking haha.
 
Why would anyone take a $10,000 paycut to move to Los Angeles when they can go to DFW where the cost of living is half that of socal? You may say we're dumb but my bank account would beg to differ.
 
Why would anyone take a $10,000 paycut to move to Los Angeles when they can go to DFW where the cost of living is half that of socal? You may say we're dumb but my bank account would beg to differ.

Who says you are taking 10% cut? Higher cost of living? Yes. Lower salary? No.

Property tax is only slightly above 1%. What is it in Texas?
 
Who says you are taking 10% cut? Higher cost of living? Yes. Lower salary? No.

Property tax is only slightly above 1%. What is it in Texas?

Property tax is irrelevant. I can get a $120,000 house in Plano that would cost $750,000 in the Hollywood hills. California hospital pharmacists aren't making what I make, that's for sure.
 
Wisconsin is a high tax state. Also, property tax is crazy high here. Well, we get never ending highway construction here, low alcohol taxes and lots of cheese.
 
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i wouldnt even live more than 10 miles away from the coast, currently i have exactly a 3 mile drive to the beach. and yes inland california is horrible, see it for yourself, i would not live in california if i had to move inland.
 
If you want to come to CA to only live 3 hours from the metro/coast area, you might as well live in Florida or Texas. All the good things are near the coast line, beach, food, social scene, events, parks, diversity, and 75-80F weather year round.

exactly, everything good about california is near the coast.
 
also, yes it costs so much more to live in california, but you know, the california coastal lifestyle is worth it. unless youve lived here, you dont even understand how great it is. maybe it is better that way, we dont need more people moving here and crowding up the place.
 
California seems to be good only for the young, educated, working professionals who are in the tech or entertainment industries. I'm not sure about those that are in healthcare.
 
Is no one concerned about earthquakes (and other natural disasters) in California?
 
I'm genuinely curious, how much does a nice house cost to buy in California? As in, one that you can see yourself living in, and also within reach on a pharmacist's income.
 
I'm genuinely curious, how much does a nice house cost to buy in California? As in, one that you can see yourself living in, and also within reach on a pharmacist's income.

Depends where in California, and even if you give me a region (ie. Northern Calif. vs. Southern Calif.), you're gonna have to be county or neighborhood specific.

Example:
Tenderloin neighborhood, San Francisco, California vs. Lower Pacific Heights, San Francisco, California --> San Francisco, CA --> San Francisco Bay Area (9 county) will all yield incredibly different median housing prices on the order of several hundred thousand dollars.

Southern Calif. Example:

Orange County vs. South Orange County vs. North Orange County vs. Newport Coast vs. Newport Beach vs. Irvine vs. Anaheim, California. This 948 square mile area can also yield > $1M difference in median home price.
 
I'm genuinely curious, how much does a nice house cost to buy in California? As in, one that you can see yourself living in, and also within reach on a pharmacist's income.

Okay here's a simplified answer if you just want a ballpark (a very big ball park)

Inland/generally undesirable area: $250-$350k for a standard 4 bed/3 bath single family home
Outer suburb of a major metro area: $500-$750k for the same 4b/3ba SFR.
Inner/desirable suburb of a major metro area: $600-900k for the same 4b/3ba SFR.

SF, So-Cal Beach Cities, status symbol zip codes, etc.... $1M-$2M for the above.

The key points here:
1) I don't know anyone who actually buys in the last group at $1M-$2M, those people bought a long time ago or rent in these impacted areas.
2) These are simplified numbers.
3) Not everyone buys the same house across areas... so a pharmacist who lives in the middle of nowhere can splurge while the one living in South OC and wants to stay there may consider buying a condo vs. a giant house.

Search for a previous post series I did comparing a pharmacist in Pittsburg vs. San Francisco, and the additional salary/tax burden and affordability of a home priced in the median ends up being a wash/even.
 
I'm genuinely curious, how much does a nice house cost to buy in California? As in, one that you can see yourself living in, and also within reach on a pharmacist's income.

It depends on what you would consider as "nice".

I say a house in the suburb in Southern California, 3 bedrooms + 2 bathrooms, 1500 sq feet, 9000 sq feet lot, good schools (8-10 score), within 25 miles of the beach would cost you 650-750 k.

If you live in the "beach cities" (within a few miles of the beach), the same house would probably cost you more than a million.

The "average" house doesn't cost that much but if you take out the not so "desirable" neighborhoods, it is pretty expensive.
 
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Even the "undesirable" neighborhoods are currently going through "gentrification" and rents are going through the roof:

http://m.la.curbed.com/tags/gentrification-watch

Yeah it is expensive but honestly, I don't see myself living anywhere else. Year round great weather, close to the beach and mountain, diversity, great foods, educated professionals from top universities (USC, UCLA, Cal Tech, UCSD, UCSF, UC Berkeley, Stanford).

You have to buy a place and pay it off as soon as you can. Property tax is only 1.1-1.2% a year and annual increase can't exceed more than 2% (same rate of inflation). If you take care of your housing needs, it makes living in Southern California "affordable" and worth the extra state income tax.
 
Didn't we decide in another thread that everyone was moving out of CA due to the drought and that the state would turn into a desert?
 
All of a sudden a bunch of Californians are moving to WA and bringing traffic with them. Go away!