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I’m looking forward to the RFAs for “preventing measles and understanding its consequences on human health” in the years ahead.
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The dominos are starting to fall in regard to funding disruptions….UMass Biosciences just rescinded ALL grad offers for this grad year.
 

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cara susanna said:
They gave up that one protester who's now had his green card revoked and essentially been disappeared. What more does the government want from them?
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Seeing as the government, at least at the federal level in the executive branch, has been hijacked by people who are actively trying to dismantle the government and install loyalists to push ideologies and agendas using Trump as their useful idiot....well they want to dismantle education because an educated populace is a threat to their goals. They also paint colleges as places where "leftist radicals" thrive and protest; and a protesting population is a less controlled population. They want indoctrination not critical thinking or research.

You ask what more do they want? They want Columbia to fall in line or go bankrupt.
 
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Are you so sure about that? Unless you're a millionaire or billionaire ? I'm not being sarcastic, just curious how you figure you'll benefit "greatly"?
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The extension of the tax cuts are beneficial to my income bracket. I also wouldn't be surprised if there are some bones in there for some of my investment vehicles and s-corp tax structure.
 
WisNeuro said:
The extension of the tax cuts are beneficial to my income bracket. I also wouldn't be surprised if there are some bones in there for some of my investment vehicles and s-corp tax structure.
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Thanks for the insight. Honestly though will this offset potential losses in revenue and income for your services ? Given the proposed cuts on Medicare/medicaid as well as the possibility that a recession occurs and reduces spending on your services?
 
quickpsych said:
Thanks for the insight. Honestly though will this offset potential losses in revenue and income for your services ? Given the proposed cuts on Medicare/medicaid as well as the possibility that a recession occurs and reduces spending on your services?
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Unless he sees a high % of medicare patients, I think he (& others including myself) shouldn't be too badly impacted by a downturn in the economy. As for the tax benefits, they could be a net positive, especially if there are S-Corp benefits. For my practice, I only see workers comp cases, but the majority of my revenue comes from expert work and some side legal and niche consulting work. Generalists will likely have different challenges, but at least for most neuropsychs, we don't take commercial insurance, and a portion to a large portion of our revenue comes from legal work, which will continue to exist and might even go up with a downturn in the economy. I run a small boutique practice where I prioritize flexibility and less hours, but I still hope to be in a position to take advantage of at least some of those tax breaks.
 
quickpsych said:
Thanks for the insight. Honestly though will this offset potential losses in revenue and income for your services ? Given the proposed cuts on Medicare/medicaid as well as the possibility that a recession occurs and reduces spending on your services?
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The majority of my revenue is non-clinical. I am busier than ever, and even with a slight downturn, I'll likely be just fine. I have to turn work down constantly.
 
WisNeuro said:
The majority of my revenue is non-clinical. I am busier than ever, and even with a slight downturn, I'll likely be just fine. I have to turn work down constantly.
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It's still weird to me that medicolegal work is considered "non-clinical" when your skills as a clinician are what is being called upon.
 
R. Matey said:
It's still weird to me that medicolegal work is considered "non-clinical" when your skills as a clinician are what is being called upon.
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Yeah, definitely overlapping skillset. But, treated much differently from a legal and billing standpoint.
 
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R. Matey said:
It's still weird to me that medicolegal work is considered "non-clinical" when your skills as a clinician are what is being called upon.
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They love to demand that you cancel clinic to attend legal proceedings. Then they love to say you don't do enough clinical work.
 
R. Matey said:
It's still weird to me that medicolegal work is considered "non-clinical" when your skills as a clinician are what is being called upon.
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I attended a forensic-oriented talk in which one of the (psychologist) presenters said exactly this.
 
PsyDr said:
They love to demand that you cancel clinic to attend legal proceedings. Then they love to say you don't do enough clinical work.
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So long as I get paid 600 an hour for every minute I’m away from the office, I’m willing to do that. Also, so glad I don’t work for them anymore. Always hated them and the things they say.
 
Several grants at our center just got terminated today😕 Unclear if the university will offer bridge funding or the staff/students will simply be let go (or have hours cut). I think there are at least 4-5 more potentially on the chopping block, its not remotely clear to me what order they are going on.
 
Ollie123 said:
Several grants at our center just got terminated today😕 Unclear if the university will offer bridge funding or the staff/students will simply be let go (or have hours cut). I think there are at least 4-5 more potentially on the chopping block, its not remotely clear to me what order they are going on.
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That’s awful! Do you know what topics/mechanisms?
 
Topics impacted so far are - not surprisingly - in the LGBTQ+ health space. Span several different institutes (NCI, NIDA, NIMHD) and mechanisms (R01, R21, supplements, even internal grants that come via federal dollars). We have at least one other grant in that space I'm aware of that hasn't (yet) been terminated, but we assume it is just a matter of time. The other grants we think "could" be targeted are on topics like the health effects of racism, tailored interventions for specific minority populations, etc. Across the board, we're seeing fewer (but not zero?) termination of awards in those areas.
 
Ollie123 said:
Topics impacted so far are - not surprisingly - in the LGBTQ+ health space. Span several different institutes (NCI, NIDA, NIMHD) and mechanisms (R01, R21, supplements, even internal grants that come via federal dollars). We have at least one other grant in that space I'm aware of that hasn't (yet) been terminated, but we assume it is just a matter of time. The other grants we think "could" be targeted are on topics like the health effects of racism, tailored interventions for specific minority populations, etc. Across the board, we're seeing fewer (but not zero?) termination of awards in those areas.
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Surely this move will make that homophobic dude on my block see a reduction in his grocery bill.
 
Ollie123 said:
*sigh*

www.nature.com

‘One of the darkest days’: NIH purges agency leadership amid mass lay-offs

In shock move, four institute directors at the US biomedical agency are removed from their posts.
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Surprise, surprise. COVID denialist guts NIAID. In other news, fork found in kitchen 😡 😡 😡

Edit: Good Lord, look at this gem:

"At least some directors were offered reassignments to the Indian Health Service, a division of the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) that provides medical care to Indigenous people living in the United States. (The HHS is the parent agency of the NIH.) “HHS proposes to reassign you as part of a broader effort to strengthen the Department and more effectively promote the health of the American people,” reads an e-mail to the directors that Nature has obtained. “This underserved community deserves the highest quality of service, and HHS needs individuals like you to deliver that service,” it says, offering reassignment to locations such as Alaska, Montana and Oklahoma."

NIH Institute directors are being sent to the Gulag. Guess someone has been taking notes at Putin's elbow.
 
Is the federal hiring freeze still being implemented for VA psychologists? If not, are the starting salaries still matching the published GS step guidelines? I heard that a few years ago they were in so desperate need for psychologists that it was common to negotiate a higher salary.
 
tr said:
Surprise, surprise. COVID denialist guts NIAID. In other news, fork found in kitchen 😡 😡 😡

Edit: Good Lord, look at this gem:

"At least some directors were offered reassignments to the Indian Health Service, a division of the US Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) that provides medical care to Indigenous people living in the United States. (The HHS is the parent agency of the NIH.) “HHS proposes to reassign you as part of a broader effort to strengthen the Department and more effectively promote the health of the American people,” reads an e-mail to the directors that Nature has obtained. “This underserved community deserves the highest quality of service, and HHS needs individuals like you to deliver that service,” it says, offering reassignment to locations such as Alaska, Montana and Oklahoma."

NIH Institute directors are being sent to the Gulag. Guess someone has been taking notes at Putin's elbow.
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Mcgirt v Oklahoma is a weird gem in this light. “Do you want the HHS, or do you want the state of Oklahoma?”.
 
futureapppsy2 said:
Damn, these proposed program cuts are brutal (and likely literally deadly, lbr): https://substack-post-media.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/post-files/161488894/aeb694ea-31c0-4f46-b083-721500448910.pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Content-Sha256=UNSIGNED-PAYLOAD&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAUM3FPD6BT46T2YYH/20250420/us-east-1/s3/aws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20250420T155007Z&X-Amz-Expires=3600&X-Amz-Security-Token=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&X-Amz-Signature=1d8e53db245d3ab48ce0d0e1323c9a0ee2414a4e8971cbaf34d99532ab1be61f&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&response-content-disposition=attachment; filename="Hhs_Reorganization_Proposal_Draft.pdf"&x-id=GetObject
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Are they eliminating funding for Head Start?? I’m so confused
 
MAClinician said:
Are they eliminating funding for Head Start?? I’m so confused
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According to the linked document, yes, they want to. Also, they plan on eliminating most of the Administration on Community Living (including seemingly all of NIDILRR), a lot of HRSA, most NIH ICs, and a lot of SAMHSA programs, including Assertive Community Treatment.
 
Ugh, so sorry to hear it. My university (in a very red state) has decided not to appeal any grant terminations and basically roll over for the administration so.....that extra sucks. People are actively worried about not even being allowed to publish in certain areas or use non-federal funds for things that might conceivably involve "DEI." The blurry line between what constitutes DEI versus traditional "health disparities" work makes things extra complicated.

I've now spoken to 3 separate people expecting to have to leave the institution at some point.
 
Ollie123 said:
Ugh, so sorry to hear it. My university (in a very red state) has decided not to appeal any grant terminations and basically roll over for the administration so.....that extra sucks. People are actively worried about not even being allowed to publish in certain areas or use non-federal funds for things that might conceivably involve "DEI." The blurry line between what constitutes DEI versus traditional "health disparities" work makes things extra complicated.

I've now spoken to 3 separate people expecting to have to leave the institution at some point.
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Come on up to the Northern Blue/Purple, it's nice up here 🙂
 
The “Brain Drain” is real btw forced deportation of the best and brightest immigrants in higher-ed and those fleeing back out of fear. We get left with the ignorant anti-intellectual never leave their hometown dullards who hate science and diversity.
 
Therapist4Chnge said:
The “Brain Drain” is real btw forced deportation of the best and brightest immigrants in higher-ed and those fleeing back out of fear. We get left with the ignorant anti-intellectual never leave their hometown dullards who hate science and diversity.
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I have a buddy who works in healthcare research, with international offices. He says his company is loving this. Their overseas research positions are getting applications from superstars who were in US govt and other academic positions. Said it's the best recruitment crop he's seen in his 15+ years in the company.
 
WisNeuro said:
I have a buddy who works in healthcare research, with international offices. He says his company is loving this. Their overseas research positions are getting applications from superstars who were in US govt and other academic positions. Said it's the best recruitment crop he's seen in his 15+ years in the company.
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While this all sucks at the moment, curious to see if this means there will be a more balanced academic market in the future.
 
WisNeuro said:
Come on up to the Northern Blue/Purple, it's nice up here 🙂
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I actually think I'd love Minnesota/Michigan/Wisconsin, but finding a university that will match my package here may be a challenge.

Also the sheer number of space heaters my wife will need to consider it. Like a "Buy stock in the companies that make them" level of space heaters.
 
Sanman said:
While this all sucks at the moment, curious to see if this means there will be a more balanced academic market in the future.
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Personally, I think it will lead to the US falling further and further behind on scientific advancements and innovation.

Ollie123 said:
I actually think I'd love Minnesota/Michigan/Wisconsin, but finding a university that will match my package here may be a challenge.

Also the sheer number of space heaters my wife will need to consider it. Like a "Buy stock in the companies that make them" level of space heaters.
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Screw those cheese loving alcoholic badgers. But, the cold really isn't as bad as people make it out to be
 
WisNeuro said:
Personally, I think it will lead to the US falling further and further behind on scientific advancements and innovation.



Screw those cheese loving alcoholic badgers. But, the cold really isn't as bad as people make it out to be
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I don't know man. I visited Minnesota for a conference last summer and it was rainy and 50s in July. I'd need a body bubble space heater.
 
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