Federal loan repayment/finance (Resident)

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...Just gotta find another stream of income. ...
The best additional stream of income is a partner who earns well. Highly recommended.

Otherwise, with a non-working or low earning partner, it's kinda the financial equivalent of having +2 kids (or more).

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I have about 190K. I'm a first year resident, living at home with family through residency. At an average program. Residents done with numbers at the end of 2nd year. Average salary over the 3 years will be about 74k. I am also at a program where the 3 years would qualify towards PSFL.... With that said, I am aggressively paying off my loans. My goal is to have 80k left at the end of the 3 years and I will open up my own practice as soon as possible in a cheaper state. Probably after working as an associate for maximum 2 years to pay the rest off, and save for practice.

I went to podiatry school knowing exactly what I was getting myself into. I was a horrible college student, partied way too much, but had a good mind when it came to the sciences. I really had no other career options that I could see myself being happy in. I can't actually thank this forum enough because I used to read it all the time as a premed student trying to decide what I was going to do. It's because of this forum I knew exactly what I was getting into. I really enjoy what I do on the day to day in podiatry, but I would laugh at anyone debating this field if they had another option. Just too much sacrifice for the financial reward. I mean be reasonable. For me though, a person with no other option, it's been worth it. Likely because, I have never had a problem with being referred to as a podiatrist haha.

I want to be successful, and I know I can do it. I'm going to focus on becoming great in disciplines the common public expects a podiatrist to be excellent in. I'll build my referral network and so on and so forth, and I have other ideas for my practice also that I think are somewhat original. I don't care if the first year I make 50k, at least I'll give it a shot and 15-20 years down the line who knows maybe I won't have to work anymore or worst case I'll be with the rest of the 'Foot and ankle surgeons' in a regular associate job, with my debt paid off.

To me a hospital job is just too much headache for what you are paid, plain and simple. You are performing surgery on very sick people. MSG would probably be the most enjoyable out of all of em in my opinion, but I would never rely on it given the job market. Ortho group.... you have to know someone most likely to get it, and hopefully you like that someone, cause you'll be with them the rest of your career. I'm sure for every situation theres a right place right time, etc.

Don't get me wrong I really do enjoy surgery. I think its awesome, I mean to get to see the anatomy with your own eyes minimum 3-400 times in a residency program is a privilege. As stated above though, not worth the stress when considering the financials. It's also just risking more of your life...to pursue the fellowship and the additional training. You might even be prolonging your eventual retirement if all that training doesn't earn you more money... life is short... I already am getting gray hairs.

Also, podiatry school should only be 3 years long, the residency should only be 2 years for most programs considering where most graduates end up. My entire 4th year of podiatry school was spent not even at the school............................. Some of the residencies are just straight up criminal with their numbers. Like how about just be honest and say "hey come here, it's a chill program, and you'll save a year to become a practitioner and can do bunions and hammertoes." I'm sure some students are actually looking for that.

rant over 🙂
As a current pod student, your second paragraph hit close home, I was decent in college but def couldve put the red solo cup down a couple more times than I did lol but I think reality set in by senior year. Crushed post bacc and masters, so I knew i could really do this medical stuff, but I def know what I've gotten myself into and like you said, I'm appreciative of pod. After post bacc, one of my buddy's with similar stats decided to switch focus to dental, and it worked out, he got in. Sometimes I almost wish dental struck my interest, but at the time I wasn't really into dentistry, but knowing what I know now financially, def would've done that too, but all in all, I know what I got myself into. I spend time reading these boards and meticulously picking out the mistakes a lot of people made and looking at ways to make it. I believe I can make something good out of pod, but it takes more than doing well in class and that has become very apparent to me. I've seen horror pay stories but have also talked to docs that are doing well financially, and want to emulate them and see how far that takes me. A lot of my classmates are oblivious to the pay and its sad. Like one time one girl in my class casually said "we'll get out of this misery and start pulling in 300k" and in my head I felt really bad because reality is gonna hit real soon.
I read your comment and felt like ranting a bit lol, I hope we all make it in this field
 
As a current pod student, your second paragraph hit close home, I was decent in college but def couldve put the red solo cup down a couple more times than I did lol but I think reality set in by senior year. Crushed post bacc and masters, so I knew i could really do this medical stuff, but I def know what I've gotten myself into and like you said, I'm appreciative of pod. After post bacc, one of my buddy's with similar stats decided to switch focus to dental, and it worked out, he got in. Sometimes I almost wish dental struck my interest, but at the time I wasn't really into dentistry, but knowing what I know now financially, def would've done that too, but all in all, I know what I got myself into. I spend time reading these boards and meticulously picking out the mistakes a lot of people made and looking at ways to make it. I believe I can make something good out of pod, but it takes more than doing well in class and that has become very apparent to me. I've seen horror pay stories but have also talked to docs that are doing well financially, and want to emulate them and see how far that takes me. A lot of my classmates are oblivious to the pay and its sad. Like one time one girl in my class casually said "we'll get out of this misery and start pulling in 300k" and in my head I felt really bad because reality is gonna hit real soon.
I read your comment and felt like ranting a bit lol, I hope we all make it in this field
You can study hard and do well, sometimes it’s just a matter of if you want to deal with the bs that comes along with the difficult cases that pay well or a high surgical volume.

It definitely takes a certain type of person and I know a lot of super smart people who that just wasn’t the way they wanted to live. But you really don’t know this until residency and for many after residency.
So you might as well do the best you can and the most you can while you can.

Whether it’s a PP owner or an ortho job one thing is certain to make a lot of money you will have to work hard for that money
 
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You can study hard and do well, sometimes it’s just a matter of if you want to deal with the bs that comes along with the difficult cases that pay well or a high surgical volume.

It definitely takes a certain type of person and I know a lot of super smart people who that just wasn’t the way they wanted to live. But you really don’t know this until residency and for many after residency.
So you might as well do the best you can and the most you can while you can.
Yea I'm a 3rd year applying for clerkships and honestly I've mentally prepared myself for whatever comes. I'm just at that point where its like I'm here and I gotta make the best of it and hopefully eat well from this profession. People are doing it, so if I wanna be one of those people I gotta be ready to never say no and just work
 
Yea I'm a 3rd year applying for clerkships and honestly I've mentally prepared myself for whatever comes. I'm just at that point where its like I'm here and I gotta make the best of it and hopefully eat well from this profession. People are doing it, so if I wanna be one of those people I gotta be ready to never say no and just work
You're gonna be just fine with that attitude. Keep grinding.
 
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