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Does anyone else sometimes feel overwhelmed by all the hoops to jump through, especially coming from a family with zero medical connections (didn't even have a family doctor growing up)? Between clinical volunteering, non-clinical volunteering, shadowing, research, classes, part-time job throughout college, and trying to stay sane, sometimes I get the feeling maybe this isn't mean't to be if it feel so hard to complete these activities, some of which I love (volunteering), some of which not so much (research).
 
Which hoops are you having trouble with? There are lots of people on this site (like me) who grew up without a primary care physician and who didn't have connections. We could offer advice.

This process does have a way of being overwhelming for most people, but things will fall into place
 
I didn't have any connections either, and most of my jobs felt like resume packers and weren't that fun. You don't necessarily have to do a lot of research if you're planning to go into primary care. I think the best work experience is to get comfortable with dealing with people one on one and making connections. Focus on the skills you won't learn in med school like developing empathy and practicing making eye contact, stuff like that. Be enthusiastic. Try to find someone who has a job that you think you might be happy doing. Then ask them what they did to get there, and work your way backwards from that. There are a lot of hoops! If you're not much of a hoop jumper, you might want to consider doing something else!
 
Which hoops are you having trouble with? There are lots of people on this site (like me) who grew up without a primary care physician and who didn't have connections. We could offer advice.

This process does have a way of being overwhelming for most people, but things will fall into place

Shadowing -- I've reached out to physicians in my area. Most said no. A couple say yes but then never get back to me or, when I go in person to the office, say the physician is busy for an undetermined length of time, come back in a few months.

Research -- I like science because I like learning what other people have discovered lol. I'm also a Psych major but psych research is SO DULL. I also have no idea how people find time to do research? I have classes during the year and jobs in the summer.... Thinking of taking a gap year or two just to do research.

Clinical Volunteering -- My school is an hour away from any hospital so I can only go once a week when I'm not burried in work/school. Not sure how I can get more hours more quickly.
 
Shadowing -- I've reached out to physicians in my area. Most said no. A couple say yes but then never get back to me or, when I go in person to the office, say the physician is busy for an undetermined length of time, come back in a few months.

Research -- I like science because I like learning what other people have discovered lol. I'm also a Psych major but psych research is SO DULL. I also have no idea how people find time to do research? I have classes during the year and jobs in the summer.... Thinking of taking a gap year or two just to do research.

Clinical Volunteering -- My school is an hour away from any hospital so I can only go once a week when I'm not burried in work/school. Not sure how I can get more hours more quickly.

Yes, I have wanted to rip my hair out with frustration at the amount of random things I've had to do, the hands I've had to shake, and the emails I've had to send. I feel that I am just as qualified now to be a medical school student as I am to be mayor of a small town in Texas.

Really, you have to take every obstacle in stride.

Research: you don't need research to become a physician, but, if you're passionate about the creation of new knowledge in the field of psychology, than reach out to professors you know (or have had classes with) and try to find a way into their labs. If they say no, you can try getting to know someone that they know and so on and so forth. You can get research if you really want to do it. I don't believe you need to take a gap year for it.

Clinical volunteering: who says you have to be working in a hospital to do clinical volunteering? Hospice, any work with the Red Cross at blood banks, a local mental health center.... these are all avenues you can explore. What's important about clinical volunteering is that you get a good look at medicine before you dive into 200k+ of debt and 10990980 years of schooling. What's especially important, from an adcom's perspective, is that you do the work over a long period of time and show dedication to working in medicine.

Shadowing: oh boy, shadowing. Trying to cold call physicians is horrible. Horrible. I sent out 20-30 (I don't even remember the real numbers anymore) emails and phone calls as a sophomore, trying to get an "in". Never got one that way. I hear whispers that it is possible, but I am a Doubting Thomas on this one. I ended up finding a practice to shadow with through another work opportunity. What that means is using whatever job or volunteer experience you have (literally anything you have) to connect with a physician, establish a positive relationship with her or him, and then request to shadow at her or his medical practice.

Keep your chin up! There are hundreds of hoops to jump through as a pre-med, but just wait! There's more! Practicing and learning medicine in the 21st century involves limitless, let's say a bajillion, hours of bureaucratic nonsense, mountains of paperwork, and billing procedures that require 3 law degrees and a rocket scientist to comprehend. The hoops have just begun, my friend.

In the immortal words of Rob Schneider, "You can do it."
 
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Yes, this process is overwhelming and the hoops are never-ending! (Just wait for all the fun hoops you get to jump through once med school starts!) I don't even mind if you just want to whine about it a bit because I did my fair share of that, too.

But c'mon, OP. I have a hard time believing that you've been exposed to the many different types of Psych research out there and have concluded that all of them are boring. 😉 If Psych isn't your thing, look for something else! As others have said, research isn't a hard requirement. Not having any research experience might limit your school choice somewhat (private, research-heavy schools may be off the table) but maybe that's okay for you? I currently supervise undergraduate research interns. Many of them manage to do research on a very part-time basis (sometimes even just a couple of hours/week) during the school year. Others can commit a bit more time during the summer. Students who are already planning on a gap year sometimes find that they can accomplish more in research as a senior when their courseload is lighter.

As @To be MD pointed out, no one said you need to volunteer at a hospital. Personally, hospital volunteering has always seemed to me to be one of the least interesting ways to do it. The volunteers at my hospital spend most of their time in the main lobby pointing people toward the elevators. Yawn. There must be at least one hospice/nursing home/free clinic/private practice/reproductive health clinic in your area.

I totally agree that cold-calling docs to shadow is painful and usually futile. That's when you start brainstorming to find any possible connection you might have to a doctor. Does anyone in your family have a friend who's a doctor? Can one of your science profs connect you? Your pre-health advisor? The student health center at your school? Volunteering somewhere can also be a good "in."

I really think it helps if you view all of these hoops as potential opportunities to do things that interest you and learn more about your future career.
 
Find clinics, nursing homes, hospice, Planned Parenthood.

Clinical Volunteering -- My school is an hour away from any hospital so I can only go once a week when I'm not burried in work/school. Not sure how I can get more hours more quickly.[/QUOTE]
 
Shadowing -- I've reached out to physicians in my area. Most said no. A couple say yes but then never get back to me or, when I go in person to the office, say the physician is busy for an undetermined length of time, come back in a few months.

Research -- I like science because I like learning what other people have discovered lol. I'm also a Psych major but psych research is SO DULL. I also have no idea how people find time to do research? I have classes during the year and jobs in the summer.... Thinking of taking a gap year or two just to do research.

Clinical Volunteering -- My school is an hour away from any hospital so I can only go once a week when I'm not burried in work/school. Not sure how I can get more hours more quickly.
What kind of school are you at? Can you have research as a work study job?

The distance from a hospital thing is difficult...I would've said that you can find shadowing by befriending a non-physician who can hook you up or volunteer at a hospital to met someone willing to let you shadow.

Can you use a summer to do clinical volunteering near your parents' home? I don't particularly think it's a great idea to have no clinical exposure until your gap year- what if you find that you hate medicine? Then you've already graduated and there is no chance to go back and change your career path.


Hmmm, so try to find a non-hospital clinical volunteering (like hospice). Ask some nurses there if they know anyone you cam shadow. Clinical volunteering you could likely find, but I don't know the best advice to give about shadowing since shadowing in a hospital is probably easier to find than shadowing in a private practice.

Is there an urgent care center or ER nearby?
 
For shadowing, I find it best to use any regular doctor visit you have with your PCP/family doctor as a chance to ask about shadowing. You're already a patient, so you technically have an 'in'.

I had a ridiculously awesome shadowing experience with an ortho after breaking my hand. Your own doctors are much more reasonable about shadowing than random ones.
 
Does anyone else sometimes feel overwhelmed by all the hoops to jump through, especially coming from a family with zero medical connections (didn't even have a family doctor growing up)? Between clinical volunteering, non-clinical volunteering, shadowing, research, classes, part-time job throughout college, and trying to stay sane, sometimes I get the feeling maybe this isn't mean't to be if it feel so hard to complete these activities, some of which I love (volunteering), some of which not so much (research).
Its all just a game you have to play to seize what you want in this transient lifetime of yours. If being a physician is what you want, then be ready to tackle all that it entails.
 
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