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    Reading the personal accounts of last year's MS-IV on different threads was a great way to find out what it's like to be "on the road".. or "the trail". Now that it's our turn, I thought it would be nice to have a unified thread to share our experiences, thoughts, and ups-n-downs on the way to the '07 match!
    there are other threads dealing with seeking advice from R1's which are great.. so this one will be dedicated to

    1) experience on electives and different programs
    2) support from other SDNers while scheduled on the same program
    3) ERAS and match stuff
    4) Boards
    5) Interviews
    6) Hopes, fears, doubts, money, tears, and smiles :)


    see ya on the road!!
     

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      Great idea. I'm glad somebody started it. But maybe a better title would draw the crowd.
      Suggestions:
      Pain Train 2007
      Trail of Fears '07
      Love?
      Wannabees 2007
      N/V/D x 8 months
      Team Rhumbah (my old bike team but who cares)
      Tomkat and the Acid Licked Vixens (not really a good thread/band or child's name but a killer go-go boot movie!)


      Anyway, thanks for starting it up.
       
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        EM_Rebuilder said:
        so.... who has their personal statement finished?

        I do, but kinda think it sucks. It was alot harder than I thought. When I was in undergrad I could whip out something pretty good in just an hour or two. But now I deliberate every single word wondering if that is correct. And then I read the finished product and feel like it is....well....I don't know what it is. For that matter I guess I don't know what it is supposed to be! Probably alot of effort for very little gain.
         

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          ElZorro said:
          I do, but kinda think it sucks. It was alot harder than I thought. When I was in undergrad I could whip out something pretty good in just an hour or two. But now I deliberate every single word wondering if that is correct. And then I read the finished product and feel like it is....well....I don't know what it is. For that matter I guess I don't know what it is supposed to be! Probably alot of effort for very little gain.


          Yeah, I am having such a hard time. I finally just took several topics/points and wrote random paragraphs. Now the problem is that I am having quite the time tieing them together.... back to word.
           

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            Alright, I could use some Step 2 advice. I am signed up for Step 2 CS on August 5th (16 days from now). I am signed up for CK on August 1st (12 days from now :scared: ). Is 3 days (and a half if I can study after CK) enough to study for CS? Yeah, I know, I know, it is easy but still a worry. Especially because they just made passing it harder as of the 16th of this month. I was just going read First Aid for CS and that's it. As a side not, I go to an Aussie school but I don't think this will make much difference except that I will need to get used to how the notes are written in First Aid (i.e. in the US).

            I'd really appreciate thoughts from those who have taken CS. Cheers. :thumbup:
             

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              trkd said:
              Alright, I could use some Step 2 advice. I am signed up for Step 2 CS on August 5th (16 days from now). I am signed up for CK on August 1st (12 days from now :scared: ). Is 3 days (and a half if I can study after CK) enough to study for CS? Yeah, I know, I know, it is easy but still a worry. Especially because they just made passing it harder as of the 16th of this month. I was just going read First Aid for CS and that's it. As a side not, I go to an Aussie school but I don't think this will make much difference except that I will need to get used to how the notes are written in First Aid (i.e. in the US).

              I'd really appreciate thoughts from those who have taken CS. Cheers. :thumbup:
              This is advice from a 4th year who has not taken CS, so take this for what its worth. I don't think anybody going into EM is going to have a problem with CS. We by nature enjoy talking to people, enjoy getting a dx from a good history, and value brevity and focused exams. It seems that people who aren't quite as interested in H/P or have a hard time keeping their H/P to under 15 min. are the ones that are going to have a problem. The people who fail are the bottom 5% of people in H/P and dx. Do you think you fall into that category, I doubt it.
               

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                ElZorro said:
                I do, but kinda think it sucks. It was alot harder than I thought. When I was in undergrad I could whip out something pretty good in just an hour or two. But now I deliberate every single word wondering if that is correct. And then I read the finished product and feel like it is....well....I don't know what it is. For that matter I guess I don't know what it is supposed to be! Probably alot of effort for very little gain.
                Bro, dont' worry too much abotu the PS. Think of all the PDs who have >800 to read each ERAS season. Unless you are a Pulitzer prize winning author, just make it a nice, decent generic statemnet. Maybe throw something in there that sets you apart from the rest... other than that, its kind of a worthless part of your application. Definately DO NOT stress about your PS! Just get it done!

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                  RayF said:
                  anyone planning on doing a month in Radiology? wonder if it would help :rolleyes:

                  I really wanted to, but its not offered at my school and nobody in our community will take students. I just could not justify doing it as an away rotation given the $$$ and the fact that I might be 'stealing' a spot that could go to good use for someone wanting to do radiology...
                   

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                    Grrr...I haven't even started my PS yet. I have ideas but the thought of writing it just annoys me. But either way, I need to get a draft done in the next week. Haven't started ERAS either, but that I'm not too worried about.
                     

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                      RayF said:
                      anyone planning on doing a month in Radiology? wonder if it would help :rolleyes:

                      I'm doing one right now, this month.

                      Since EP's read more films than any other specialty other than radiology, I would definitely think it would be beneficial. Just about every EP that I speak to spends a large amount of time reading films in the ED on a daily basis.
                       

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                        ElZorro said:
                        This is advice from a 4th year who has not taken CS, so take this for what its worth. I don't think anybody going into EM is going to have a problem with CS. We by nature enjoy talking to people, enjoy getting a dx from a good history, and value brevity and focused exams. It seems that people who aren't quite as interested in H/P or have a hard time keeping their H/P to under 15 min. are the ones that are going to have a problem. The people who fail are the bottom 5% of people in H/P and dx. Do you think you fall into that category, I doubt it.
                        Thanks for the encouragement ElZorro. I don't think I will have any problems. The fact that I am only concentrating on CK until 3 days before CS just concerns me that I don't know what I am getting myself into. It's not really me style to be unprepared so close to gametime.
                         

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                          trkd said:
                          Thanks for the encouragement ElZorro. I don't think I will have any problems. The fact that I am only concentrating on CK until 3 days before CS just concerns me that I don't know what I am getting myself into. It's not really me style to be unprepared so close to gametime.

                          trkd, good luck on CK. I'm taking it August 2nd. I hope it's pretty much like UW.
                           
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                            MushieCookie said:
                            trkd, good luck on CK. I'm taking it August 2nd. I hope it's pretty much like UW.
                            Good luck to you as well. I am at about my 24th UW exam and I have had a bad slump. 6 of the last 7 exams have sucked. Not good! Aug. 1st is too close.
                             

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                              trkd said:
                              Good luck to you as well. I am at about my 24th UW exam and I have had a bad slump. 6 of the last 7 exams have sucked. Not good! Aug. 1st is too close.

                              Keep pluggin' away. I've been going through questions for the past 5 weeks or so...repetition, repetition, repetition. Best of luck...I'm sure you'll do great.
                               

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                                Is it just me or does some of those UW questions seem overly nit-picky? Sometimes I read a question and have no clue what disease they are describing? I'm sitting at 51% with week to go and I'm starting to get nervous. Especially since eveyone on the comlex/usmle forum has like a 95% on UW.
                                 

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                                  BadVB750 said:
                                  Is it just me or does some of those UW questions seem overly nit-picky? Sometimes I read a question and have no clue what disease they are describing? I'm sitting at 51% with week to go and I'm starting to get nervous. Especially since eveyone on the comlex/usmle forum has like a 95% on UW.

                                  I quit listening to those people. I have like a 56 on the QBank questions... I have been doing questions/studying since the end of June and take the test the first of August. I figure I'll do as good as I possibly can do. Just do your thing, take the test. Maybe you wont be a 99%tile but I affirmly believe grades are not everything....
                                   

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                                    trkd said:
                                    I love hearing that people feel the same about the UW scores. I guess misery loves company. But didn't mean to hijack the thread. :oops: Sorry.

                                    Yeah, I'm just trying to use UW as a teaching tool, but it hard sometimes not to focus on a low score. I will be really happy once I'm done with both the comlex and usmle.
                                     

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                                      whos headed out to do an away? Where you going? Is there anybody that has one under their belt, what was your experience?

                                      I'm currently doing emergency ultrasound at NYP columbia/cornell and doing highland later. I'm having a great time in NY and while it is a little wierd to only do US all day, I am learning a lot and getting a good into to the program.
                                       
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                                        Just finished up my US rotation at UC-Irvine. Rotation was awesome. Journal club at the beach, with dogs and burgers grilling. Faculty and residents were pretty helpful. Very flexible schedule. Scanned a ton. I'm now an EM US believer.
                                         

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                                          Beth Israel 8/28 (manhattan). sweet...

                                          I'm trying to find some info on EM US, or just US period...especially in the NYC area...especially schools/programs that take foreign students.
                                          If anyone has any ideas...let me hear 'em. Thanks...
                                           

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                                            MushieCookie said:
                                            Beth Israel 8/28 (manhattan). sweet...

                                            I'm trying to find some info on EM US, or just US period...especially in the NYC area...especially schools/programs that take foreign students.
                                            If anyone has any ideas...let me hear 'em. Thanks...
                                            As far as electives go, you may be out of luck. I tried EM US in the NY area without luck (I am at an aussie school). As far as residency goes though, most of them look like they accept foreign grads. The only way it might work is if you try at a non-competitive rotation time (Jan-June). You may have more luck with this. Good luck.
                                             

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                                              trkd said:
                                              As far as electives go, you may be out of luck. I tried EM US in the NY area without luck (I am at an aussie school). As far as residency goes though, most of them look like they accept foreign grads. The only way it might work is if you try at a non-competitive rotation time (Jan-June). You may have more luck with this. Good luck.

                                              hey trkd...do you mind PM'ing me (or posting on here) some EM US rotations you've looked into in the NYC area? (that accepts foreign students). I don't care when I do it. Actually, January would probably be best for me. I'll be finished with my last rotation end-March.
                                              Thanks!
                                               

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                                                MushieCookie said:
                                                hey trkd...do you mind PM'ing me (or posting on here) some EM US rotations you've looked into in the NYC area? (that accepts foreign students). I don't care when I do it. Actually, January would probably be best for me. I'll be finished with my last rotation end-March.
                                                Thanks!

                                                Yep, I'll PM you. :thumbup:
                                                 

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                                                  To those of you doing an away in Las Vegas, do you have any info on the program? I've heard about their new program but have yet to find any concrete info on it although it's one program i'm really interested in.
                                                   

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                                                    By the way,
                                                    for the DO applicants, make sure u look into the Mt Sinai program in miami beach.. great program, but it's not participating in ERAS. Just wanted to make sure everyone is aware of it. They have an earlier deadline.
                                                     

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                                                      August at UCLA/Olive View
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                                                      TRKD, see you in September! I may be giving you a PM to find out where you're staying and other general stuff. Nervous as hell for the rotation, hoping not to suck. Good luck to everyone else on their aways.
                                                       

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                                                        RayF said:
                                                        By the way,
                                                        for the DO applicants, make sure u look into the Mt Sinai program in miami beach.. great program, but it's not participating in ERAS. Just wanted to make sure everyone is aware of it. They have an earlier deadline.

                                                        I emailed the PD and she said starting this year, the program will be a linked program with Palmetto General Hospital and is participating in ERAS. Hope this helps people interested in the program.
                                                         
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