"Fishbones" Shorthand for ABGs?

[quietmedic]

I recall there being an official "fishbones" shorthand for ABGs, something like pH/pCO2/pO2/etc. Anyone recall the official sequence? As well, is there one for Coags? Thanks...

-M., PA-S

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[Smurfette]

ph/pCO2/pO2/HCO3/base excess/O2 sat

 

[dpmd]

I use (imagine the lines making an upside down Y)

PT l INR
/PTT\

while I know others who claim it should be

PT l PTT
/INR\

I also like (imagine now a Y right side up)

\Ca/
Mg l Phos


And for the folks who might not already know it

T bili l Alk Phos l AST l T prot
D bili l l ALT l Alb

But I have seen the bilis and protein/alb switch with each other at some places.

 

[Random Anesthesiologist]

M2 material, right?

 

[Dwindlin]

M2 material, right?

Those are all short hand ways of documenting lab values in notes.

 

[Random Anesthesiologist]

Those are all short hand ways of documenting lab values in notes.

This, I know.

Just curious if it's material introduced in M2 (not the idea of lab values, but learning how to report them).

 

[ZagDoc]

This, I know.

Just curious if it's material introduced in M2 (not the idea of lab values, but learning how to report them).

Never really learned fishbones until third year. It's not material that is "introduced", its part of that "other" stuff in medical school you learn along the way.

 

[lord_jeebus]

ph/pCO2/pO2/HCO3/base excess/O2 sat

I do this but stick the FiO2 at the end eg.

7.40/40/150/24/+1/100% on 0.40

 

[Knicks]

What are all the "fish bones" for everything (that needs to/can be written in fish bones)?

I hope that made sense.

 

[Random Anesthesiologist]

Never really learned fishbones until third year. It's not material that is "introduced", its part of that "other" stuff in medical school you learn along the way.

Thanks!

 

[Conqueror]

The Maxwell pocket guide carried by many med students has a good guide to these shorthand notations.