Florida Schools Application Thread (2008) part 2

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i've decided to withdraw my application (and therefore my upcoming interview) to Florida State University College of Medicine... i wanted an interview at fsu when i didnt have any acceptances, but now with my temple acceptance, i dont want to take up an interview slot for someone who really wants to go to fsu. I hope this withdrawal helps somebody else on sdn. Good luck guys!
 
i've decided to withdraw my application (and therefore my upcoming interview) to Florida State University College of Medicine... i wanted an interview at fsu when i didnt have any acceptances, but now with my temple acceptance, i dont want to take up an interview slot for someone who really wants to go to fsu. I hope this withdrawal helps somebody else on sdn. Good luck guys!

Rad Ankit! Did you apply to any other FL Schools? Congrats on getting into Temple!
 
i've decided to withdraw my application (and therefore my upcoming interview) to Florida State University College of Medicine... i wanted an interview at fsu when i didnt have any acceptances, but now with my temple acceptance, i dont want to take up an interview slot for someone who really wants to go to fsu. I hope this withdrawal helps somebody else on sdn. Good luck guys!

Congratulations! I'm glad to hear you got in at Temple and I'm sure eventually you'll have luck at the other Fl. schools with getting off hold or waitlists! But congratulations. Temple is a good school albeit a bit expensive. I have an old friend who is finishing up there this year that went to USF with me.
 
Rad Ankit! Did you apply to any other FL Schools? Congrats on getting into Temple!

i interviewed at usf and uf and are on both of their waitlists/holds... i had a phone conference with "Dr. K... something" at usf and she said that it looks promising that i will get off the waitlist early on... hopefully its true bc i would love to go to usf over temple...
 
i interviewed at usf and uf and are on both of their waitlists/holds... i had a phone conference with "Dr. K... something" at usf and she said that it looks promising that i will get off the waitlist early on... hopefully its true bc i would love to go to usf over temple...

That sounds like it means you are high tier waitlisted. If so congrats cuz that means you still have a high shot there.
 
If you're high tier on USF's list you've pretty much got it in the bag. Come March-April when interviews are over you can almost bank on an acceptance. Also, it was very considerate to back out of FSU. I've heard of some people sitting on acceptances, interviews, etc. with no serious plans on attending; making it difficult for other applicants who have to wait it out.

Also, does anyone know how FSU ranks their hold list?? I was told it wasn't ranked, but come on; there has to be some methodology behind the decisions. Unless there's a dartboard in the equation somewhere. It stinks to think I might not hear any final info from them until around April or so. For any other school it would be fine, but with FSU starting in late May that doesn't give much time.
I've still got lifetimedoc as a good example of being able to hear something good from USF later in the application season, so there is still hope concerning them as well.
 
If you're high tier on USF's list you've pretty much got it in the bag. Come March-April when interviews are over you can almost bank on an acceptance. Also, it was very considerate to back out of FSU. I've heard of some people sitting on acceptances, interviews, etc. with no serious plans on attending; making it difficult for other applicants who have to wait it out.

Also, does anyone know how FSU ranks their hold list?? I was told it wasn't ranked, but come on; there has to be some methodology behind the decisions. Unless there's a dartboard in the equation somewhere. It stinks to think I might not hear any final info from them until around April or so. For any other school it would be fine, but with FSU starting in late May that doesn't give much time.
I've still got lifetimedoc as a good example of being able to hear something good from USF later in the application season, so there is still hope concerning them as well.

One of my FSU interviewers told me that they score each applicant. I am guessing that they pick those with the highest scores first.
 
One of my FSU interviewers told me that they score each applicant. I am guessing that they pick those with the highest scores first.

Thanks for the info. I was kind of wondering how they would handle the hold list with supposedly no system in place to rank applicants. I can only hope to eventually get in. Good luck by the way with the USF interview:luck:. I seem to remember you saying it was for the first week or so in Jan.
 
Hey you guys I got an ineresting email from Stephen Klasko about USF's future goals and current progress.

All HSC mail users got this email but for those of you who aren't on that server its an interesting read regarding USF COM:

This is long but its an interesting read

Dear Faculty, Friends and Colleagues,



2007 was a pivotal year for USF College of Medicine and I did not want the year to go by without expressing my appreciation for everything you do …every day! Often in our zeal to develop strategy and implement plans for growth we lose sight of the most important asset in any academic medical enterprise—our faculty, staff and students.



Three years ago, we set out a blueprint for strategic action that encompassed five major points—national prominence, creative educational models, the recognition that research really matters, the development of an entrepreneurial academic model, and a truly integrated USF Health. While no one has ever accused me of being poetic, I am struck by the phrase, “we have come so far …and have so many miles to go.”



2007 saw our number one priority, our students and the faculty that teach them, being recognized in a grand way. Our LCME site visit went off flawlessly, due in great part to the selfless hours that were undertaken by our faculty, including eighteen months worth of committees. We were rewarded with a maximum accreditation of eight years, a true accomplishment given the rate of change that had occurred over the previous few years. Our long time vice dean of education, Paul Wallach, left us to pursue his dream of becoming a dean and Bryan Bognar has done a great job maintaining our focus while a national search is completed. Most importantly, our students continue to surpass every expectation we could have of them, whether in USMLE pass rates or giving back to the community with the BRIDGE clinic, the Carl Sagan academy, or the many international projects that they have embraced. I could not be more grateful for the caliber and character of our students – medical students as well as master’s and doctoral candidates.



Research really matters. While in most medical schools that would be akin to saying the sky is blue – we at USF had to refocus our efforts on building cores, recruiting and retaining faculty, creating a research infrastructure and beginning the process of building the appropriate space for a top-fifty research academic medical center. Dr Abdul Rao and his staff, the basic science chairs (Drs Nicosia, Lindsey and Solomonson) and faculty as well as the clinical chairs and faculty embraced this challenge and 2007 saw significant grant renewals, grant awards, intellectual property breakthroughs and most importantly the beginning of rebuilding research cores (a project that almost had to be begun from scratch). We could not be more proud of Dr Krischer and his $169 million NIH diabetes award and the many faculty members who have bucked the decreasing flow of dollars from NIH and other federal agencies. However, this is where the “many miles to go” part comes in. As the leader of the medical school, I need to work with you to bring in new philanthropic dollars and other sources of funding to start to quickly build up our space and core facilities in order to take advantage of these great faculty efforts. My goal over the next year is to begin construction on expanded research space while planning for a state of the art health sciences research building, the university’s top priority on our five year PECO funding list.



Strategy and implementation are two different worlds—and in the entrepreneurial academic model, the faculty practice group is seeing those worlds collide. Since this medical school was born, so the historians (thank you Dr Curran and Dr Haynie) tell me, this medical school has struggled with its community medical school roots (e.g. no owned hospital) and its desire to move ahead in the academic world. We have now reached the nexus of that struggle in that we have overachieved in our academic pursuits for a community based medical school, yet we have not accomplished what is necessary to move out of that classification. So, as with most successful transformations, the first thing we need to do is “look in the mirror.” Our faculty practice group has enjoyed the ability to maintain itself with little business development or strategy around the development of a true multispecialty group. That is no longer the case. There is no practice group in the nation that can prosper without hospital based specialties, facility fees and hospital revenues.



We have “come so far …”

The building and moving in of the Center for Advanced Healthcare South was a herculean effort by staff, faculty and administration. Sprinkle in a new electronic medical record and 2007’s legacy will be one of recognizing the hard work that resulted in our first differentiated clinical building in many years. But that’s not all, we are on the eve of moving into our first new ambulatory campus facility, the Carol and Frank Morsani Center for Advanced Healthcare, which will transform our ability to do state of the art procedures on our campus and enjoy the full range of reimbursement that heretofore had been lost to us. Most importantly, we will be living our vision of making our patients’ lives better, through an innovative approach to women’s health, breast care, orthopedics, sports medicine. Digestive disorders and the other areas that will have providers from many specialties integrated into a unique patient centric environment.



We have “so many miles to go….”

Getting there will require strategy, focus and discipline at an unprecedented level. Our financial challenges are significant ... decreased state funding, three new Florida medical schools competing for dollars, medicare funding reductions, increased competition … as are our operational challenges in moving from a practice plan to a vibrant multispecialty group. We are not content with the operation and focus of the practice group, and we have and will continue to make changes in its leadership, makeup and operations. Rick Green is committed to working with the faculty in 2008 to start that transformation.



But there is nowhere in the medical school where a more significant transformation needs to take place than with our hospital relationships. As your leader, I have committed to 2008 being the year in which we develop “reality based relationships” with our hospital partners. That means to put it simply and bluntly, we must assert ourselves as an equal partner, and recognize where it is important to collaborate and where it is necessary to compete. There is no model in the country where a medical school affiliated with three or four strategically independent (both of the medical school and each other) has been able to achieve what we intend to without changing the dynamic. Whether it is the Moffitt reorganization, our very important strategic discussions with Tampa General Hospital, our recognition that w need a new and different model with All Childrens Hospital, our reinvigorated affiliations with the VA hospitals, or our development of new partners throughout the region, every strategic move has been to increase the COM’s leverage and to assert itself in any discussion of regional healthcare. None of that will be accomplished unless we immediately look at ourselves and change the paradigm of our own internal practices. We are the largest multispecialty group in the entire region yet we do not take advantage of the synergies and coordinated patient care that would be obtained through a more focused approach to keeping patients within our system. The #1 challenge for 2008 is simple – the practice group administration needs to become more entrepreneurial and doctor/staff friendly, the clinical chairs need to do whatever is necessary to make it easy to refer within our group, and in hospital based areas such as pathology and radiology, we need to take advantage of our new facilities. The benefits to patient care, our ability to reward faculty and staff, the potential for reducing overheads, and our ability for reinvesting dollars in the academic and educational enterprise are staggering if we were to recognize the power that exists within our own faculty, multispecialty group and new buildings.



USF Health is more than just a brand or a billboard. That is how we started 2007, and along with Deans Petersen and Burns and Dr Quillen, we began implementing a strategy that tied the schools related to health sciences together in a meaningful way. In the areas of prevention and wellness, infectious diseases and international health we have started to make great strides toward achieving that goal. But in order to be more than a slogan, we have to ensure that all aspects of the health enterprise at USF are multifocal and interdisciplinary and that we constantly reassess our “USF Healthness” in our communications, our programs and in our strategic and financial allocations. 2008 is the year that I hope to make that change from a philosophy that is beginning to be implemented to an implementation strategy that embodies the philosophy. As part of this forward movement, we are also excited about continuing the journey toward our newest health college, the College of Pharmacy led by Dr Kevin Sneed.



The university’s strategic plan is all about the steps needed to make this university stand in place among the best in the country as defined by eligibility for admission to the prestigious Association of Academic Universities. National prominence has been a key goal for USF Health and the USF COM. 2007 is a year where much of the rest of the nation began to “hear about” the changes going on in USF Health. This has been reflected in our ability to recruit leaders such as Dr Lewis Rubin from Cleveland Clinic as the Muma chair for Neonatology or Dr Clifton Gooch from Columbia who was the choice of the search committee as the chair of Neurology. It was also reflected in several university programs being chosen by U.S. News and World Report for inclusion in the top 50 on behalf of our hospitals – Dr McCaffrey and ENT for both Moffitt and TGH, Dr Keefe for Obstetrics and Gynecology at TGH, and Dr Goldman and our colleagues in Internal Medicine for renal disorders. We have had a record number of presentations to the AAMC and other national organizations about our curricular change and quality initiatives. Our students are taking an ever-increasing role in student national organizations. And as a long time Apple and Mac user, I could not be more pleased that USF is leading the way working with Apple and other great universities in pursuing the developing technologies in digital media. More and more, people around the country are recognizing that USF Health is a place for positive change.



So, 2007 is gone and a world of potential, risks, rewards and opportunities await us in 2008. I have two things that I hope to be able to say at this time next year, over and above everything else:



1) That the lives of our community as well as the careers and lives of our faculty, staff and students have been positively transformed by the changes at USF Health

2) That USF Health, USF COM and USF Practice Group are realizing their potential across all three missions—clinical, research and academically—to becoming one of the leading health science centers in the nation.



I can’t wait to get started.



Thanks and have a great holiday.



Steve



Stephen K Klasko, MD, MBA

Dean, College of Medicine

Vice President for USF Health

University of South Florida
 
Very insightful read, Guju! Hopefully, some of us can get some interviews there after the New Year and help them meet this vision...Thanks you so much for posting that!😀👍
 
Very insightful read, Guju! Hopefully, some of us can get some interviews there after the New Year and help them meet this vision...Thanks you so much for posting that!😀👍

No problema! Yeah I thought you guys would be interested as applicants at what our dean of the college of medicine had to say regarding the school. 🙂

Hope everyone has a great new years since New Years is coming up very soon. 🙂
 
Thanks as well guju. The peeps on the FL thread really appreciate how you go the extra mile 👍!
 
Very insightful read, Guju! Hopefully, some of us can get some interviews there after the New Year and help them meet this vision...Thanks you so much for posting that!😀👍

😀 I'm thinking the same thing. Has anyone heard anything from USF recently? Hopefully, after the new year they'll start tossing out some more invites. Thanks for the article guju.
 
Only Florida schools I applied to were UF and USF, got early interviews for both. I got accepted into UF right away, but got waitlisted at USF, and I'm not near the top of the list either. Not that I mind, because of the two I liked UF better.
 
Wow! That letter is very impressive. I am really looking forward to my interview at USF now. It sounds like USF will be growing tremendously over the next few years and that their students are very successful.
 
😀 I'm thinking the same thing. Has anyone heard anything from USF recently? Hopefully, after the new year they'll start tossing out some more invites. Thanks for the article guju.

Nope, still haven't heard anything! I'd love to interview there, though. They did mess up my application, however. They claimed I had no physician shadowing experience, despite the fact that I did. I sent them a letter describing my experiences more, but I still haven't heard anything, which is awfully weird.
 
Only Florida schools I applied to were UF and USF, got early interviews for both. I got accepted into UF right away, but got waitlisted at USF, and I'm not near the top of the list either. Not that I mind, because of the two I liked UF better.

What did you like more about UF? Congrats too, btw. Are you in the facebook group?
 
Yes, thanks for posting that about USF! Great read, definitely makes me interested in the school more.
 
What did you like more about UF? Congrats too, btw. Are you in the facebook group?
I'm an arts person, and the emphasis UF has on the humanities and medicine was appealing. Not to mention the piano in the student library. 😉 USF's curriculum was more interesting though, I must admit. Overall, it was mostly the environment.
 
i interviewed at usf and uf and are on both of their waitlists/holds... i had a phone conference with "Dr. K... something" at usf and she said that it looks promising that i will get off the waitlist early on... hopefully its true bc i would love to go to usf over temple...

Yo check your PMs cuz I'm about to send you one. I think I know who you are cuz of your brother and a common friend at UF from my childhood.
 
Only Florida schools I applied to were UF and USF, got early interviews for both. I got accepted into UF right away, but got waitlisted at USF, and I'm not near the top of the list either. Not that I mind, because of the two I liked UF better.

Congratulations! Are you planning to go to UF or is it lower on your list in comparison to out of state schools?
 
I'm having a love-affair with your new avatar:laugh:

Speaking of, Tertbutyl, I've been meaning to ask you is that avatar at UF or is it just coincidence that it looks like there is orange and blue in the background?
 
Congratulations! Are you planning to go to UF or is it lower on your list in comparison to out of state schools?
That would depend on the out-of-state school...I only have a couple that I haven't heard back from. Rest were rejects. Pitt was my top choice, but even though my interview there went well, I didn't get in. And UF is cheaper. I'm very practical. 😛
 
Speaking of, Tertbutyl, I've been meaning to ask you is that avatar at UF or is it just coincidence that it looks like there is orange and blue in the background?

haha nah, it's not at uf. total coincidence 🙂
 
Does anyone know if most Florida schools will be re-opening on Jan. 2? I got an e-mail from UF, but I was curious about when the other schools will be back.
 
Does anyone know if most Florida schools will be re-opening on Jan. 2? I got an e-mail from UF, but I was curious about when the other schools will be back.

USF starts back on the 7th. I believe that's the case with Miami because one of our fam. friends was here yesterday and he said they don't start back up right away on the 2nd. Both of his 2 younger daughters are med students there in 2nd and 4th year respectively.

I think USF started a week later then last year when they opened in the fall for the new year so their vacation started a week later and hence they will start when the rest of the colleges in the university start.
 
I can't wait to get this second half of the interview season rolling. Did I ever mention that waitlists suck? Well in case not let me emphasize that point once more; they suck really bad. In the letter I got from FSU they told me they would be re-evaluating those waitlisted periodically throughout the rest of the application season. I'm a bit confused as to how this is being done. In years past I know that FSU, for the most part, put waitlisted applicants on hold until at least march-april until interviews were completed. I'm not too sure if this policy is still in place, or if things are being done differently this year; i.e. hearing anything before april.

In the meantime it's always nice to sit back and watch my cell phone and email box sit quietly and peacefully with no interruption. All I can say is that reaching the new year with no conclusive news as to where I'm going is a tad bit frustrating and nerve-wrecking.:scared:
 
does anyone know how the grading scale works at the UM Miami and the UM Boca campus?

are they on pass/fail or what?

thanks
 
I interviewed at UF on December 14th and was accepted. Has anyone else been accepted who intends to go?
 
USF starts back on the 7th. I believe that's the case with Miami because one of our fam. friends was here yesterday and he said they don't start back up right away on the 2nd. Both of his 2 younger daughters are med students there in 2nd and 4th year respectively.

I think USF started a week later then last year when they opened in the fall for the new year so their vacation started a week later and hence they will start when the rest of the colleges in the university start.

Hey I think I know both of them, that's pretty funny. We do start the 7th.
 
I interviewed at UF on December 14th and was accepted. Has anyone else been accepted who intends to go?

Congrats a friend of mine interviewed there. I've mentioned her before on here. But anyhow, she was put on hold and she interviewed the day you interviewed.

Most people I know were put on hold for the batch of acceptances that go out in spring. So they won't know if they are waitlisted, rejected, or accepted out right til spring. Same with some fam. friends as well. We'll see what happens.

Congratulations again!
 
Thanks Tert and guju...I'm excited. There were a lot of strong applicants on my interview day. I had prepared myself for a wait-list, and was really excited when I got a phone call from one of my interviewers. I'm so happy I don't have to stress about the interview process anymore!
 
Thanks Tert and guju...I'm excited. There were a lot of strong applicants on my interview day. I had prepared myself for a wait-list, and was really excited when I got a phone call from one of my interviewers. I'm so happy I don't have to stress about the interview process anymore!

Yeah that's a good thing. I know a friend of mine at Cornell had interviewed around the same time last year and got the Dec. acceptance and it was such a happy day for him cuz that was his top choice. the rest of spring was more chill because of that since he didn't have to go to any more interviews. Ended up cancelling his interviews after that.
 
That's what I did. I even cancelled my Duke interview. I loved undergrad at UF, my sister is in the PharmD program at UF, my family is close...UF is a great fit for me.
 
That's what I did. I even cancelled my Duke interview. I loved undergrad at UF, my sister is in the PharmD program at UF, my family is close...UF is a great fit for me.

Ha! Your story is halfway similar to my other friend who is at UF as an M1. Her family was relatively close to GVille and like you it was a good personality fit for her so she ended up going there over her other two Fl. acceptances. She likes it there a lot. She says as long as you keep up with it you should be fine.
 
Happy new year everyone; nice to see the FL thread back again. Congrats to gators13 on the UF acceptance👍
Does anyone know when FAFSA apps should be filed? I guess it doesn't yet concern me seeing that I don't yet have an acceptance, but with my one lone hold list (thanks fsu) I'm kind of wondering if and when I should do so just to be safe. I remember REL saying something about filing as early as possible, but with it only being the first week of '08 I think there is still ample time.
 
Happy new year everyone; nice to see the FL thread back again. Congrats to gators13 on the UF acceptance👍
Does anyone know when FAFSA apps should be filed? I guess it doesn't yet concern me seeing that I don't yet have an acceptance, but with my one lone hold list (thanks fsu) I'm kind of wondering if and when I should do so just to be safe. I remember REL saying something about filing as early as possible, but with it only being the first week of '08 I think there is still ample time.

I would recommend filling it out as soon as you can, and list up to six schools to send it to. Schools use it to determine whether you qualify for any institutional aid, and have deadlines around March/early April. This way, you find out what kind of aid you will get before making the May 15 (April 15th for Early Start Programs) decision. But I don't think it's possible to fill it out this early because many are waiting to receive 2007 tax information. It never hurts to take a look at the questions and get prepared though. It's also the only way to receive at least some subsidized loans.

This is my understanding.
 
Hi everyone.

I just got an interview at UF on January 18th.

Is anybody else also interviewing on that date?

Thanks.
 
Congrats with your interview! Let us know how it goes.
 
Does anyone know, when you interview at USF are you always interviewed by one faculty member and one senior student? Or does that vary? By the way is anyone else interviewing Jan. 7?
 
Does anyone know, when you interview at USF are you always interviewed by one faculty member and one senior student? Or does that vary? By the way is anyone else interviewing Jan. 7?

It varies. I've had friends who had the one faculty one student interviewer combo and those that had both faculty members as their interviewers. The same is true at other med schools too.

I've had friends at UF as well who have had 2 faculty members while others had one student and one faculty interviewer.
 
Does anyone know, when you interview at USF are you always interviewed by one faculty member and one senior student? Or does that vary? By the way is anyone else interviewing Jan. 7?

We try to interview applicants with 1 student and 1 faculty member. Sometimes it doesn't work out due to student availability, but students are usually available.
 
USF sent me an e-mail asking for me to call them. I'm nervous. 😛
 
USF sent me an e-mail asking for me to call them. I'm nervous. 😛

They e-mailed me the same thing when they invited me for an interview so I would not be worried.
 
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