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Foreign Veterinary Graduates
Started by rocibell
Hi
Concerning your question to get a license without having the ECFVG.
There is New York State Veterinary Board, Please see their web site, they can give a license without finishing the ECFVG, BUT you have to give them your veterinary certificate and transcript from your country ( translated in English) but to qualify for this you have to have 5 years of Academic education AND one year of clinical education ,so total of 6 years of veterinary education also you have to have a Green Card.
you can get more information on their page http://www.op.nysed.gov/vetlic.htm
you can also print the forms on their site, you can call them and ask if you can be entitled for a license.
AlsoI think that Massetchustes ( Boston ) Board they give a limited license so you can practice under another vet's supervision untill you pass your CPE.
Good Luck
Vet1998
Hello Everybody. I have passed the Qualifying Exam and NAVLE. I am now selling my VCRC (6 books) and Mosby(5 books).
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hi Gustavo Brasil
I'm temporary living in houston right now, would like to have a personnal contact with you please email me at [email protected]
thanks
If there is any PAVE candidate from Texas out there. We need to get together, cause Texas State Board is strongly considering not accepting PAVE graduates anymore. Please send me your email adresses.Gustavo Brasil
hi dear, i am vet frm india, plz if u can guide me how to prepare for BCSE EXAM.
THX
THX
hello sir/ madam,
i am vet from India and prepring for BCSE exam. wat is the full form of VCRC and will it help me to clear BCSE? and wat would it cost 2 me ?eply soon
thx
i am vet from India and prepring for BCSE exam. wat is the full form of VCRC and will it help me to clear BCSE? and wat would it cost 2 me ?eply soon
thx
hello sir/ madam, i am a vet from india and preparing for BCSE EXAM . Since u have passed the exam, could u please guide me which books can help me .
Will vcrc help me ?
jp vet
😕
HI,
Please go back and read the older zfourm posts. all your questions are already answered. just write in the serch box BCSE and you will find all the related posts.
hi gustavo brasil
i am interested to buy your book
my email is
[email protected]
please contact me if u still have them
i am interested to buy your book
my email is
[email protected]please contact me if u still have them
Hi,
There is the website: AAVC's Veterinary Internship and Residency Matching Programwhere you can find and apply to internship and residency programs of many kinds. Some of them require a US license, some don't.
I send you an email, but it didnt go through. email me at [email protected]. Do you need Mosby's too? Which state do you live?
hi gustavo brasil
i am interested to buy your book
my email is
please contact me if u still have them
how long it take to get the CPE manual and application from the ECFVG after paying the 500$ fees .. it have been over a month and i got nothing
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it took about 3 weeks. you should call or e-mail
Benjamin Curran [email protected].
800-248-2862 ext. 6682 .
They might be busy getting the cpe result ready for the last exam.
Dear Roci
I liked your approach for answering the queries or responding the mail! Its true many foreign students are willing to take BCSE or Navel material to study but seldom get the right direction to work towards.
One more thing to suggest keep cheking your mails on this site! best wishes for your TOEFL!
I think you should enlist the material you worked on for NAVEL.
Tha would be helpful to others.
Thanks
DC
I liked your approach for answering the queries or responding the mail! Its true many foreign students are willing to take BCSE or Navel material to study but seldom get the right direction to work towards.
One more thing to suggest keep cheking your mails on this site! best wishes for your TOEFL!
I think you should enlist the material you worked on for NAVEL.
Tha would be helpful to others.
Thanks
DC
Yesterday I got my results for the last exam "CPE". I'm happy to say " I DID IT "
I got my certificate. Now what?? I've to think about that. BUT for all of you who just started or half way there. I want to give you and idea about me and where I was and how I did it. I hope this help.
I came to the U.S in 2001 and CAN NOT make a one single English sentience, so my English was bad, really bad. The reason for that is I learned the vet medicine in different language and all what we had for English is one small class a year. I'm telling you this to give you an Idea that nothing is impossible. You may not be good enough now but you will be if you want too.
I'm not the smartest guy ever, I'm positive most of you guys are smarter than me, so if I did it then you can.
When I first came to the states I start working with animals. I was cleaning stalls and taking care of lots of animals in Animal Sanctuaries, which was as good as it gets for some one has a vet license from outside the U.S and hardly speaks English. So for you who are out there and asking about what to do while trying to get a vet license? Do one thing. Work with animals. Anywhere, clinics, sanctuary, even dairy farms. This is important to stay in touch with what you have learned also give you a good access to vets who come and treat this animals, and you learn a lot.
Best job you can get is vet assistant. This will include cleaning kennels and doing dirty things but it will give you a great access to medicine and you learn a lot as you are earning money for living. If you think you can't do the vet license soon. Get the vet technician license; this gives better chance for hands on experience. All what you need for that is pass the national veterinary technician licensing exam. Which is as easy as the BCSE? 200 computer questions with multi answer system.
So in 2003 I start studying for the veterinary technician exam. It was the hardest thing ever trying to open the dictionary and translate every other word. but in 6 months I was able to pass the exam and become licensed veterinary technician. This was a great step because now I can go and work in a vet hospital earn more money and learn lots of things everyday. and I did. I was very lucky to work with a surgical clinic with great board certified surgeons.
I recommend specialty clinics, like surgery or emergency, these clinics will teach you the most and the best.
In August 2006 I decided that it's time. I started my vet license program. Starting with TOEFL, BCSE, NAVLE and then CPE. So almost 2 years later It was over. this journey was very stressful it gave me a gift along the way. it was a stomach ulcer. now that I'm no longer have to stress I hope it will finally heal.
So, doctors, don't give up or underestimate your selves. if you were able to get a vet degree from elsewhere then you can do it in the U.S. if I did it then trust me anyone of you can.
Unfortunately I can't discuss anything about the CPE exam. just one note. Follow the manual. and don't hurry. You will get it 5-6 months before you can do the test so you will have a lot of time to go through it. Just concentrate on the steps one by one.
Also go out and find equine and bovine vets and work with them, give them a free hand just to learn, even in the weekends. The last 6 month I was working full time job as a technician 4 days a week 10 hours a day and I was working for free with equine vets and bovine vets for 2 full day a week and had only one day to study. So I had no life. But this is the way to do it, for the CPE you have to get first hand experience with small and large animals. This give you an idea how much time I was able to use for studying, the things you learn when you are working are the things you will remember in the exams especially the CPE.
I recommend that you join the yahoo CPE Group. There are tons of materials and great people who can give you advices and references to study from. This goes for NAVLE and CPE candidates here is the link.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/CPE-GROUP/
I will be checking the Forum and help as much as I can. Please no private messages, I will answer questions in the forum for every one to read.
Good luck every one, YOU CAN DO IT.
I got my certificate. Now what?? I've to think about that. BUT for all of you who just started or half way there. I want to give you and idea about me and where I was and how I did it. I hope this help.
I came to the U.S in 2001 and CAN NOT make a one single English sentience, so my English was bad, really bad. The reason for that is I learned the vet medicine in different language and all what we had for English is one small class a year. I'm telling you this to give you an Idea that nothing is impossible. You may not be good enough now but you will be if you want too.
I'm not the smartest guy ever, I'm positive most of you guys are smarter than me, so if I did it then you can.
When I first came to the states I start working with animals. I was cleaning stalls and taking care of lots of animals in Animal Sanctuaries, which was as good as it gets for some one has a vet license from outside the U.S and hardly speaks English. So for you who are out there and asking about what to do while trying to get a vet license? Do one thing. Work with animals. Anywhere, clinics, sanctuary, even dairy farms. This is important to stay in touch with what you have learned also give you a good access to vets who come and treat this animals, and you learn a lot.
Best job you can get is vet assistant. This will include cleaning kennels and doing dirty things but it will give you a great access to medicine and you learn a lot as you are earning money for living. If you think you can't do the vet license soon. Get the vet technician license; this gives better chance for hands on experience. All what you need for that is pass the national veterinary technician licensing exam. Which is as easy as the BCSE? 200 computer questions with multi answer system.
So in 2003 I start studying for the veterinary technician exam. It was the hardest thing ever trying to open the dictionary and translate every other word. but in 6 months I was able to pass the exam and become licensed veterinary technician. This was a great step because now I can go and work in a vet hospital earn more money and learn lots of things everyday. and I did. I was very lucky to work with a surgical clinic with great board certified surgeons.
I recommend specialty clinics, like surgery or emergency, these clinics will teach you the most and the best.
In August 2006 I decided that it's time. I started my vet license program. Starting with TOEFL, BCSE, NAVLE and then CPE. So almost 2 years later It was over. this journey was very stressful it gave me a gift along the way. it was a stomach ulcer. now that I'm no longer have to stress I hope it will finally heal.
So, doctors, don't give up or underestimate your selves. if you were able to get a vet degree from elsewhere then you can do it in the U.S. if I did it then trust me anyone of you can.
Unfortunately I can't discuss anything about the CPE exam. just one note. Follow the manual. and don't hurry. You will get it 5-6 months before you can do the test so you will have a lot of time to go through it. Just concentrate on the steps one by one.
Also go out and find equine and bovine vets and work with them, give them a free hand just to learn, even in the weekends. The last 6 month I was working full time job as a technician 4 days a week 10 hours a day and I was working for free with equine vets and bovine vets for 2 full day a week and had only one day to study. So I had no life. But this is the way to do it, for the CPE you have to get first hand experience with small and large animals. This give you an idea how much time I was able to use for studying, the things you learn when you are working are the things you will remember in the exams especially the CPE.
I recommend that you join the yahoo CPE Group. There are tons of materials and great people who can give you advices and references to study from. This goes for NAVLE and CPE candidates here is the link.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/CPE-GROUP/
I will be checking the Forum and help as much as I can. Please no private messages, I will answer questions in the forum for every one to read.
Good luck every one, YOU CAN DO IT.
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Woww congratulation ... good job, you really deserve it after all this stressfull years
wow...... congratulations. this is inspiring, thank you for sharing.
i wish you all the best and quick ulcer healing. 🙂
which country did you graduate from?
take care and hope to see you here from time to time, and thank you again for helping us all.
good luck
i wish you all the best and quick ulcer healing. 🙂
which country did you graduate from?
take care and hope to see you here from time to time, and thank you again for helping us all.
good luck
Congratulations and enjoy the success
.The only problem now a days is getting work visa😕 I know that as Vet we all are much qulified than vet assitant and for better future we all are ready to work in the advese conditions.But my problem is only to get legal working status.If you have the idea(which i am sure,you must)please do suggest.Presently I am in USA from the last one and half month on tourist visa.I got the Externship offers from some hospitals but no one is guiding me HOW TO CHANGE MY TOURIST STATUS INTO LEGAL WORKING STATUS.
.The only problem now a days is getting work visa😕 I know that as Vet we all are much qulified than vet assitant and for better future we all are ready to work in the advese conditions.But my problem is only to get legal working status.If you have the idea(which i am sure,you must)please do suggest.Presently I am in USA from the last one and half month on tourist visa.I got the Externship offers from some hospitals but no one is guiding me HOW TO CHANGE MY TOURIST STATUS INTO LEGAL WORKING STATUS.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Congratulations and enjoy the success
Thank you guys....
I don't know how to help you on this one, you need an immigration attorney. Go and spend 100 $ and get a very good opinion. once you know what to do then you can just do it your self. there is always a work visa but those are already gone. there is a limit of 55000 a year and your chance for this year is gone. this visa require having an employer that is welling to hire you. you have a good advantage by being in the U.S which alows you to do better search.
Do not Stay in the U.S illegally, this will destroy your future chances of coming back to the U.S.
if you can get internship or residant status. then you can maybe get a student visa. like I said go to an attorny for one hour appointment and explain your situation and he/she will give you the best advice. it won't cost you more than 100$. it will be worth it.
also check the qualifications for visas on the http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis . write in the serch filed Student visa, or any visa and you will get all info you need to be qualified for visas.
there are websites that may contain more info and can help you more than this fourm . try this website
http://discuss.ilw.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/902603441.
good luck
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Thank you very much.God bless you and give the success in your life.As a senior I request you to please keep in touch with me and guide me.
i live in indiana
[email protected]
i was studying for toefl and i did not check forum for a while
sorry
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Hello every body
iam veterinarian graduated from libya in 1999
i have been living in usa for 4 months
iam looking for take my licencing but still in the first step,
now iam preparing for toefl ...my problem is i have no work able to bear my bills,and i didnt accept any kind of work because i wanna to stay in touch with my maijor.
so,please if anyone had idea about
1-how can i find work as veterinarian assistant(i live in pittsburgh-pa)?
2-how can i take veterinarian technician licencing?i need to know all things about this like(where can i start -is there any material they give me after my rigestration-how long does the exam take-what is this exam like?
3-how much of range incom per hour for veterinarian assistant?and for veterinarian technician?
thank you
iam veterinarian graduated from libya in 1999
i have been living in usa for 4 months
iam looking for take my licencing but still in the first step,
now iam preparing for toefl ...my problem is i have no work able to bear my bills,and i didnt accept any kind of work because i wanna to stay in touch with my maijor.
so,please if anyone had idea about
1-how can i find work as veterinarian assistant(i live in pittsburgh-pa)?
2-how can i take veterinarian technician licencing?i need to know all things about this like(where can i start -is there any material they give me after my rigestration-how long does the exam take-what is this exam like?
3-how much of range incom per hour for veterinarian assistant?and for veterinarian technician?
thank you
To get a vet tech license you have to provide one of two things either a graduation from a vet tech school or a 5 years experience as a veterinary assistant. in my case I didn't have either, but i have a vet license from a different country with 6 years experience. I called the veterinary board in my state and i told them that I would like to apply for the veterinary technician board exam "200 questions. done twice a year". I told them about my qualification. they said it's more than enough "more like over qualified'. I did the test 3 months later and then I had to do an open book state exam you do it home and send it in , mostly about the vet laws.. Then I got the license. it's really easy. Check the department of health, licensing department in your State. you should know all the answers. There is no need to have any license to work as assistant, although you can have license, the same way but if you want to do it you may as well do the technician.Some technicians I knew worked as assistants for 5 years and then applied for the exam.Every state has different laws .in my state, vet tech can do most of everything except, making a diagnosis, prescribing drug, doing surgery. you can do lots of procedures without supervision of veterinarian and more with the veterinarian, for example you can induce anesthesia when there is vet in sight view of you and the animal.. when you apply for the exam as technician they will mail you a book of all this rules, Don't worry about it though, when you work in a clinic they will tell you what you can do.I think you are over qualified, you can easily work in any hospital, a full year of internship should be enough to get you an assistant job for now.I hope this can help.
so go online and find the place in your state that gives licenses and call them and ask. You should get to the veterinary board people who can help you. requirement might vary from state to state.
As far as work. for now find anything to stay alive and then search for work in vet hospitals. look in adds in the newspaper and google search using your city name and veterinary assistant words and the word job.
also search for close by vet clinics and go to them one by one and give them your resume. this might work some time.
there is no way any one can tell you how much you might get paid it's diffrent from place to place but Iexpect minimum wage 8-10 $ an hour.. to start.
Put your thinngs in order. what is the most important thing and go on. and do it step by step . don't ruch . I was in the U.S for 2 ears before I did the technician license and 5 years before I started the vet license.. doing it fast will not help.
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Really iam hunging to thank you for replay ......you are lovable
but if you please can you tell me:
1-when i will be eligible to enrolled in the VTNE(i think iam eligible becuase i had veterinary medicine bacalors and 8 years experience+legaly residant)
what are the sources to preparing for the exam?
2-how long does the exam take timefor preparing?
3-please tell me more about the exam how it like(in computer or paper+focus for which part )?
4-did you prepar just for 3 months?that will be nice that means it is esy?please more explain for this point.
5-
questio"200ns. done twice a year". please i didnt understand this sentense............did u mean there are twice appointment for VTNE?if this what did you mean please tell me when?
6- a full year of internship should be enough to get you an assistant job for now........................would you please tell me about internship what does mean?please all thing about it
I KNOW THESE ARE ALOTS OF QUESTIONS AND MAYBE I BOTHER YOU BUT PLEASE EXCUSE ME BECUASE YOU HAVE THE MOST KNOWLAGE AND EXPERIENCE....AND WE NEED YOUR HAND
THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN
BEST REGARDS
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Internship usually a long time commitment for work like 6 month to 1 year. most of the time it's paid a small wage like 20.000 -30.000 $ a year. so you are an employee. this is harder to get and find than the externship. it's usually offered in vet schools and some big hospitals.
this require qualifications and like I said might hard to find. but you can try. for more info check this website.
http://www.virmp.org/virmp/
Externship is short term unpaid position. it can be done as daily for X number of days or weeks or it can be done as one day a week,,,, etc.. this is easy to get . Because hospitals like having a free help. they need you and you need them. they don't pay you. but you learn. this is good if you have a job in small animal hospital so you can do externship in large animal hospital in your day off or weekend just for knowledge.
this doesnt require qualifications. because you are there just to learn.
congratulations dvmjakish, you deserved to pass the CPE. best wishes
Thank you for your time and help
I heard if i want to work in hospital as veterinarian that does not needs pass any exams(navle) especially like my situation(i have citizenship) just i will be under supervisor ...the point for that is because i dont want to practice my own business.......is this true?
i mean if you want to practice your own business like open your own hospital you have to passes navle program....also if you want to practice your own veterinarian technician you have to passes vtne ,
SO,IF I WANT TO WORK IN HOSPITAL I DONT HAVE TO TAKE ANY LICENCE BECAUSE THE LICENCE FOR WHO WANT TO OPEN BUSINESS.
ESPECIALY IF I HAD LICENCE FROM MY COUNTRY WITH MANY YEARS EXPERIANCE.
LICENCE=OWN BUSINESS
WORK=YOUR CV+YOUR CERTIFICATE +YOUR LICENCE FROM YOU COUNTRY
IS THIS TRUE???????
PLEASE IF ANYONE HAVE CORRECT ANSWER FOR THIS POINT
GOOD WISHES
I heard if i want to work in hospital as veterinarian that does not needs pass any exams(navle) especially like my situation(i have citizenship) just i will be under supervisor ...the point for that is because i dont want to practice my own business.......is this true?
i mean if you want to practice your own business like open your own hospital you have to passes navle program....also if you want to practice your own veterinarian technician you have to passes vtne ,
SO,IF I WANT TO WORK IN HOSPITAL I DONT HAVE TO TAKE ANY LICENCE BECAUSE THE LICENCE FOR WHO WANT TO OPEN BUSINESS.
ESPECIALY IF I HAD LICENCE FROM MY COUNTRY WITH MANY YEARS EXPERIANCE.
LICENCE=OWN BUSINESS
WORK=YOUR CV+YOUR CERTIFICATE +YOUR LICENCE FROM YOU COUNTRY
IS THIS TRUE???????
PLEASE IF ANYONE HAVE CORRECT ANSWER FOR THIS POINT
GOOD WISHES
I don't know who told you that but this information is 100% fulse. if it was true no one of will be doing what we are doing.
I wish you don't look for ways to go around these exams. going through PAVE or ECFVG are the only way. Trust me .
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first you need copies that are certified and translated to English of your License or degree from your home country. once you have that ready then you need to call the veterinary board of your state and ask them to send you an application for the vetrinary technician licensing exam. they will ask you also to send it back with a check for the exam fee.
here is the information you need for contact:
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For VTNE application, contact: Professional Credential Services, Inc. (PCS), P.O. Box 198689, Nashville, TN 37219-8689. Phone: 1-877-887-9727. Deadline for application is 60 days prior to the date of the exam. An applicant must have an AVMA accredited degree in veterinary technology.
Examination Dates:
VTNE - third Friday in January and June. The exam is given in Harrisburg.
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this info came from this website.
this info came from this website.
I know the physical address above says " Nashville, TN " which seems weird. but since the exam is national this might be OK.
So Just call the Number and they will help you.
So Just call the Number and they will help you.
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Thank you for quickly reply
actually i already read this website and i sent message for them then they sent back to me this message:
(To obtain a license as a veterinary technician, you must have completed an AVMA accredited educational program.)
i couldnt understand this sentense
please tell me what does AVMA accredited means?does this mean i have to pass avma before enroll in vtne??????????????????????????????????????
really iam wondering............would you please explain for me and accept my sorry.
thank you for all things
actually i already read this website and i sent message for them then they sent back to me this message:
(To obtain a license as a veterinary technician, you must have completed an AVMA accredited educational program.)
i couldnt understand this sentense
please tell me what does AVMA accredited means?does this mean i have to pass avma before enroll in vtne??????????????????????????????????????
really iam wondering............would you please explain for me and accept my sorry.
thank you for all things
The normal requiremnet is a completion of 2 year vet tech school (AVMA Accredited school), but there are exceptions.
if you are not lucky your state might not accept aother cases like a foreign DVM graduate.
best way is to call them and explain your case. tell then that you are a DVM and have X # of years as experiance and see if they accept you. if they don't then you can't do it and you have to live in a diffrent state where you can do that .
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now i understand........thanks alot
so,would you please tell me which state has possiblity with this?
and can i register online without travel to that state?i mean can i prepare in my state then travel and move when exam date come?
or they have condition that i must be resident in the same state which accept my case?
final inquire would you tell me which state did your exam(VTNE) in?
I APPRECIATED
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Yes you have to be ving in the state . The only way to find out is to e-mail or call every state .. You can do that if you want.
I'm just hoping that new people read these info before they start asking about it again.
I have Mosby's Comprehensive Review For Veterinary Technicians book for sell.
This book is very helpful for those who planning to take a vet tech exam. The book is in excellent condition with no marks or highlight.
if you are interested please email me directly!
[email protected]
thanks🙂
This book is very helpful for those who planning to take a vet tech exam. The book is in excellent condition with no marks or highlight.
if you are interested please email me directly!
[email protected]
thanks🙂
HI Meavet,
Have not heard from you for a while, where are you now in the ECFVG progress??
Hi
does anybody know how long ecfvg journey?
i know is debands frm one to one but please every body had finishing all steps tell us ,begining by toefl or ielts ending by cpe and bord licensing.
i hope to hear about experience summary for everyone
thank you
does anybody know how long ecfvg journey?
i know is debands frm one to one but please every body had finishing all steps tell us ,begining by toefl or ielts ending by cpe and bord licensing.
i hope to hear about experience summary for everyone
thank you
