Geisinger Commonwealth MBS 2021

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Hi! I know this is an old thread but if there are any current MBS students at Geisinger right now, would you be able to share your experiences? Please feel free to message if more comfortable. I really appreciate any insight you can offer about this program- considering attending this fall!!
 
Hello

I just applied last week and got admission. Undergrad GPA 3.7, MCAT 514. Considering attending this fall and would love to hear from current and past students of MBS.
 
Why not apply to medical schools with those stats?
 
Two of my recommenders had covID and delayed recommendations (My application was complete in November 2021). One of the recommenders was critical because I did research with the professor. I did not get a single interview (Although I received notification from 6 schools that I am in the interview pool ). The feedback I received overall was the application submission was very late. I hear mixed feedback from students who graduated last year and are doing scribes but schools do not view scribes ( a paid work) favorably. Having a gap year is not good either. So, I am applying to PostBaac as an option.
 
Two of my recommenders had covID and delayed recommendations (My application was complete in November 2021). One of the recommenders was critical because I did research with the professor. I did not get a single interview (Although I received notification from 6 schools that I am in the interview pool ). The feedback I received overall was the application submission was very late. I hear mixed feedback from students who graduated last year and are doing scribes but schools do not view scribes ( a paid work) favorably. Having a gap year is not good either. So, I am applying to PostBaac as an option.

I see! I'm a student in this program and I don't think this program would be a good use of your money and time given your stats.

Dude, save the money and get some clinical experience you enjoy and do something interesting. Volunteer at a foster home, work with a nonprofit, fight fires... Lol I'm just saying stuff here but you get my point. Then apply early for this coming cycle. Maybe consider hiring someone to help go over your application and put yourself in the best light.

This program is an intense science program to bolster GPA issues in undergrad and show an upward trend to adcoms. I think you can save the money to be honest. That's just my opinion.

Good luck! If you have any questions please feel free to dm me.
 
Two of my recommenders had covID and delayed recommendations (My application was complete in November 2021). One of the recommenders was critical because I did research with the professor. I did not get a single interview (Although I received notification from 6 schools that I am in the interview pool ). The feedback I received overall was the application submission was very late. I hear mixed feedback from students who graduated last year and are doing scribes but schools do not view scribes ( a paid work) favorably. Having a gap year is not good either. So, I am applying to PostBaac as an option.
Hello

I just applied last week and got admission. Undergrad GPA 3.7, MCAT 514. Considering attending this fall and would love to hear from current and past students of MBS.
Don't waste your money. Unless you want to go here and cop the scholarship don't bother. Take a gap year, get a job in healthcare as a scribe or better as tech and actually touch patients. I went in with similar stats to you and it was a waste, I was interviewing during the program and it was more of a hassle than anything else. You'll be required to do mandatory work that you don't need to do with your stats and ECs
 
Can anyone comment on the matriculation rate from people in the MBS program? Only the top 20 percent are offered an interview, right? So how many from those are typically accepted?

Can you do it at own pace?

How do you determine top 20 percent of class?

Is the class size a mix of online and in person?


Does it provide me a disadvantage that I am from out of state? Meaning if I performed well and had a successful interview would my state residency stop me from being accepted into the medical school?

How can I obtain letters of rec if it is purely online? How would they be able to get to know me on that level to write me a letter?
 
Can anyone comment on the matriculation rate from people in the MBS program? Only the top 20 percent are offered an interview, right? So how many from those are typically accepted?

Can you do it at own pace?

How do you determine top 20 percent of class?

Is the class size a mix of online and in person?


Does it provide me a disadvantage that I am from out of state? Meaning if I performed well and had a successful interview would my state residency stop me from being accepted into the medical school?

How can I obtain letters of rec if it is purely online? How would they be able to get to know me on that level to write me a letter?
I was out of state and it didn't make a difference for me, the main difference for me was that during my interview here was that I was interviewing other places during the MBS program and that gave admissions a sour taste. You can get letters of rec from professors and some of the faculty here, you'll become close to some if you partake in their research or if you tutor, etc. Its not at your own pace, its pretty much class Mon-Fri, quizzes on the weekends, exams every four weeks, and ECs that have to done to pump up your application. Classes are online if they still haven't opened the in person learning but online is obvs easier cause you wouldn't have to move somewhere for a year, plus it gets you used to medical school lectures since almost no one goes to in person lectures in medical school. There's around 300 of you that would matriculate in a year, it is trimester admissions so class sizes vary on what top 20% looks like but around 15 MBS students get accepted a year. An avg of 250 students graduating a year for the past 5 years, assume that 1250 at 100% graduating rate (which you will find out is not a thing since after the first exam around 5ish or so people go part time because they failed it, and then some more after the second exam, and then around 3-4 fail out of 1st semester) So 1250 graduates and a generous average of 15 students matriculated per cycle gives you 6% chance of admission into this school based on the data for the last five years assume at least a 510 MCAT score. Also, in those 15 that move on to the MD program very few are from the previous class, most did the MBS program around 2 years prior.

Keep in mind that getting an interview doesn't matter if you're just there filling in the minimum check so a school can claim "Guaranteed". 35-70K to get an interview isn't worth it. I say this and write all of this not to say that you cant do it, but to be realistic of whats going on in the SMP/Post-Bacc market currently. I did a further write-up that some classmates helped with me based on their programs and its sad what this Post-Bacc/SMPs are doing. Find a program that offers a guaranteed spot in the next cycle based on certain scores or GPA.
 
I was out of state and it didn't make a difference for me, the main difference for me was that during my interview here was that I was interviewing other places during the MBS program and that gave admissions a sour taste. You can get letters of rec from professors and some of the faculty here, you'll become close to some if you partake in their research or if you tutor, etc. Its not at your own pace, its pretty much class Mon-Fri, quizzes on the weekends, exams every four weeks, and ECs that have to done to pump up your application. Classes are online if they still haven't opened the in person learning but online is obvs easier cause you wouldn't have to move somewhere for a year, plus it gets you used to medical school lectures since almost no one goes to in person lectures in medical school. There's around 300 of you that would matriculate in a year, it is trimester admissions so class sizes vary on what top 20% looks like but around 15 MBS students get accepted a year. An avg of 250 students graduating a year for the past 5 years, assume that 1250 at 100% graduating rate (which you will find out is not a thing since after the first exam around 5ish or so people go part time because they failed it, and then some more after the second exam, and then around 3-4 fail out of 1st semester) So 1250 graduates and a generous average of 15 students matriculated per cycle gives you 6% chance of admission into this school based on the data for the last five years assume at least a 510 MCAT score. Also, in those 15 that move on to the MD program very few are from the previous class, most did the MBS program around 2 years prior.

Keep in mind that getting an interview doesn't matter if you're just there filling in the minimum check so a school can claim "Guaranteed". 35-70K to get an interview isn't worth it. I say this and write all of this not to say that you cant do it, but to be realistic of whats going on in the SMP/Post-Bacc market currently. I did a further write-up that some classmates helped with me based on their programs and its sad what this Post-Bacc/SMPs are doing. Find a program that offers a guaranteed spot in the next cycle based on certain scores or GPA.
Thanks for the honesty. Yea, I always feel like these programs just profit off the desire and desperation of pre-med students who want medical school admission in a scam fashion lol. I was told there's usually 50 in the program (meaning 50 for the fall class for example so i guess you're saying 150 totalish for fall, spring, and summer). And if they give you an interview is it really the minimum, cause arent you already accomplishing something by being in the top 20 percent? Are there any programs out there that even offer a guaranteed spot based on certain reached metrics? I haven't been able to find any myself. Especially that I could enter this fall. I don't plan on taking any gap years between any program and going to medical school. Im considering the potential year Im doing the program to be the gap year, which is why Im taking mcat before program would start in the fall. If I attended I would want to be one of those that matriculates straight from the program to the com, but I guess the success rate on that is low. Appreciate the reply.
 
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Thanks for the honesty. Yea, I always feel like these programs just profit off the desire and desperation of pre-med students who want medical school admission in a scam fashion lol. I was told there's usually 50 in the program (meaning 50 for the fall class for example so i guess you're saying 150 totalish for fall, spring, and summer). And if they give you an interview is it really the minimum, cause arent you already accomplishing something by being in the top 20 percent? Are there any programs out there that even offer a guaranteed spot based on certain reached metrics? I haven't been able to find any myself. Especially that I could enter this fall. I don't plan on taking any gap years between any program and going to medical school. Im considering the potential year Im doing the program to be the gap year, which is why Im taking mcat before program would start in the fall. If I attended I would want to be one of those that matriculates straight from the program to the com, but I guess the success rate on that is low. Appreciate the reply.
So for most of these schools you MUST meet both MCAT & SMP GPA for a guarantee. Touro-NY, Temple,Tulane ACP, Nova (Kind of, pretty much guaranteed interview at MD school if not good enough then they'll put you on DO waitlist from what a classmate of mine has said ), FSU, Creighton, Drexel (v expensive & hx shows the guarantee goes to URMs), LECOM ( I believe Erie, but its also LECOM so do your research before jumping in that lake), and VCOM. Thats pretty much the ones I know of that will give you a guarantee spot if you meet the minimum GPA & MCAT by completion.
 
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